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Norways relationship to the EU is not really a big issue this election. It will not change.
pew
dude its a british channel. every eu election will be shown as "maybe they will leave eu?" for any country. its part clickbait and part bitterness...
Well, true, but overall it will have a inpact on the future. The Senterpartiet will probably get a lot more seats than people think, people are tired of large government.
Depends on who you ask in relation to what party, V (Left) stating they are super pro EU and want to become a member of they get in caused many (from what I know) in western and northern Norway to go something else. V was quite popular here I live for example with their pro-bridge stance, but after that comment many went SP or H.
@@Captain-Axeman true. and i think this is because of covid mostly. it happened the same time as brexit and the consiquences of brexit are masked by the consiquences of covid crisis, so any hard brexiter can claim that if not covid, things would be better for uk than before... only time will tell
Only flaw with looking at The Center Party and The Socialist Left as a possible exit from EU agreements is that The Center Party is trying to exclude the socialist left from any governing coalition. Thus it's very unlikely that they'd work together when it comes to subjects like this. The Center Party leader is gunning for a coalition with just the Labour Party, though Labour has said it wants a governing coalition with both these parties.
Yeah, in a interview, they didn't want to say they were ok or not with just AP and SP. They wanted SV and MDG at the very least with them, and SP from what I know don't want anything to do with SV.
@@TheMetalfreak360 They are even more opposed to MDG (The Greens) I would think, since MDG stands in stark opposition to SPs agricultural politics.
@@theamici Well yes, but from what I know, most of it comes from MDG against SP (though members of SP is harsh out against MDG for their taxes on gas cars for working people for example), but SP have come out and literally said They don't want SV in gov (leaders of SP, not just members). So I am guessing they might accept a few things from MDG but not with SV? Honestly not quite sure on that front. It is stuff like this that makes me say that SP is the wild card in this election.
When it gets boiled down, they probably will end up with a good % of the votes, and manage to bargain good deals later if they decide to go with AP or H for that matter if it turns out that way. The thing is, that SP cannot really afford to go hard against MDG and in general green policies, that is an easy way to loose votes, especially after the UN report that was dropped, so it is on many people's minds. Yes they have been hard on them before, but they are slacking on that front, in line with every other party, close to every party in Norway is for the green change when it comes to energy, but everybody have different views on how and how fast that change needs to happen. SP's views is more of a slow and steady (from what I know), too slow for many, while MDG is way too fast for many in the country, and MDG struggles when it comes to other policies except for the enviroment.
All in all, gonna be an very interesting election.
But this is my view, I would love to hear your take on it. Maybe you have more context to it or more info than what I have. Tried to keep up with the election, but a lot of other stuff have happened so I am not as up to speed as I wish I was.
@@TheMetalfreak360 No, SP categorically rejected going into government with MDG. They have not rejected entering a government with SV, they have simply stated it is not their preferred alternative and that they are running on a SP/AP government. It should be quite clear, especially how Vedum avoids questions of whether or not they will go into a government with SV, that this is mainly an election strategy to pull voters from right wing parties.
Norwegian who has an active interest in politics here. Let me clear some things up.
I don't think relations with the EU is such a hot topic here in Norway. I understand this is a great concern for Europeans and thus it would feature in a channel focusing on EU news, but the main reason the "anti-EU" party has grown so big is because they are the only voice who have been critical to some very controversial local region reforms.
The Norwegian government forced several counties(fylker) and municipalities(kommuner) together and it was very unpopular, and as a result we saw a rise in the popularity of the agrarian party(SP), which also happens to be the least EU-friendly part. But EU relations is not something most people have a big opinion about, it's not a core topic ahead of the election, and it would be very weird if labour gave in to a something that would be so damaging to Norwegian economy when there's no big public push for it.
And also I don't know if Erna Solberg's little birthday party had such a great impact, I think there's other reasons for the polls to go down. It made good news, but I have yet to find a single person who cares. And I'm on the left myself, so it's not something I'm saying to defend her, it's just that it was just a little birthday party she held and she paid her fine and who cares, more important issues are at hand than a PM eating some cake with her friends during corona.
I don't kniw anything about Norwaegian politics, but I do understand why the birthday oarty wouldnt have any impact. I mean, when they said it was a scandal I was a bit shocked, since a party of 13 instead of 10 people isn't really that different, especially many politicians did a lot worse regarding covid 19 restrictions
Okay the Denmarkians, Finllatians, the Ikeaites, and the Elvish empire ofIceland should all be ruled by one brave and masculine Viking king. .u have betrayed your ancestors. You all should be getting on boats and attacking European coastal cities for plunder because they are not well fortified you should renounce your Christian God and beg your ancient gods for forgiveness and to give u wisdom for upcoming battles.
At least that's the popular view in the United states.
@@ניביצחקי-ק3פ
Yeah, scandals are great for newspapers who wants to sell more. But, I think the Donald showed us all how little most people cares about scandals. He had a new scandal every week, from constant harrasment of others on social media, to prostitutes pissing on him, to bragging about grabbing women's vaginas without consent, and it didn't really affect him all that much.
People don't nearly care as much about scandals as we think they do. As long as he was anti abortion and anti immigration, his followers were gonna defend him.
I'm a member of the Green Party, and this one evolving scandal surrounding a Greeen Party member here in Norway has been pushed in the papers frequently for a couple of years now. For the ones who hate the Green Party it's great fuel to keep the fire burning, but for everyone else it's kinda meh. Like we get it, a woman fucked up, doesn't really affect the party's political position.
@@Mynipplesmychoice Well at least we have denounced the Christian God, if that helps you. About 1/3 believe in God here.
@no clue im guessing you’re a Ikeaite
Thinking that Norway would live the EEA is just laughable. Even if the centreparty and socialist left would have a majority in the coalition, all other parties from both right and centre, including labout would stand against them. If they somehow managed to leave the EEA they would face major public backlash which would drag their image (aswell as the economy) down in the mud. In all honesty this whole EEA affair is the same as the monarchy affair. A few parties oppose it but are outnumbered by the rest of parliament and goes against the will of the public
Edit: I was mistaking. SV doesn't wanna leave the EEA, but they want a renegotiation with the EU to secure a more favourable deal
The idea of Brexit was laughable too...
@@arnaldosantoro6812 it still is lmao
2.7 billion to be in the EEA is an absolute gift. We pay shitloads more to be in the EU and that means we also get all of the many downsides.
@@bastiaan4129 Arguable correct, though having no say warrant substantial rebate.
@@arnaldosantoro6812 The difference is that Norway's economy's been booming like never before since we joined
Also Czech republic will have parlament election this year. 🇨🇿
There's a lot of voting going on in Europe this year!
Voting is every 5 years, electoral campaigns are eternal.
Canada's having an election too 🇨🇦
@@happycamper7717 oh yeah, canada will totally have some unpredictable results
It's basicly Babiš & spol. vs. coalitions.
As a person who has been following the Norwegian election campaign, I haven't heard a word about the EU or the EEA...
Furthermore, every Norwegian government in the past two decades had a party (either in govt with minister or as a support party) opposed to the EEA. The Jens Stoltenberg governments had the SV and Sp in govt, while Erna Solberg herself governed for 7 years with the right-wing FrP which also wants to end the EEA agreement. And the current government relies on their support.
So the next government containing parties opposed to the EEA is nothing new.
The difference this time is that the anti-EEA parties are in the majority on the left. While in earlier coalition they have been in the minority.
You should research better. The topic has been a talk for a good while now. Even the progress party (FrP) and the Democrats (Not in the parliament) have saids they oppose the EEA agreement. The Red party, Socialist Left and Centre Party has clearly stated in their political program that they oppose the EEA. The Red party especially have stated that they will actively work for an end of the EEA agreement. The EEA opposition is really big now.
FrP isn’t anti-EEA. They want a small renegotiation on benefits transfers.
True, but the Centre Party is much more anti-EU than the Progress Party. They also have been drawing EU critical voters from this approach because many Norwegians are tired of politicians being Pro-EU and doing Pro-EU things when they are against the EU.
It is not likely that they will leave the EEA but it is possible that the EU will not have as much influence over Norway as it had before.
It all depends on how much the EU-critical parties were willing to work together on the issue. It is possible if all the EU critical parties on the Left and Right worked together, that they might force a change. However, that is highly unlikely. The most likely thing is that we might see a Norway less eager to impliment EU policy and directives.
@@sevret313 The centre party has stated that they do not wish to categorically leave the EEA, they simply want a "better deal" - and has essentially backed away from this issue. Similarly, the EEA issue is far down the list for both The Socialist Left and The Red Party, and as such it will not be pushed through any kind of support agreement or coalition compromise. Labour has stated that they refuse to abandon this stance, and any such proposal would therefor be voted down in parliament.
You really need to stop with the clickbait titles. Norway is not near leaving the single market.
Yeah - but you still clicked!
British news every day:
"Spain leaving the EU"
"Germany has left the EU"
"Greece vows to leave the EU"
"Italy soon leaving the EU"
"Poland wants out of the EU"
"Is the EU doomed??"
"The EU doesn't exist anymore"
Etc etc.
More likely Scotland will tell Boris to go to hell.
There’s a lot of money in selling confirmation bias to people who are anxious they may have done something foolish.
Where is such British news you speak of? The agenda is set by the BBC and doesn't appear to conform to your description. Perhaps you live in a parallel universe?
@@oraclex2976 actually very unlikely, people don't queue at Dover to get into the EU
😆😆😆
What's with leaders disregarding their own mandates?
if they can't follow such a public rule, what else are they doing that's not allowed?
She claimed she didn't understand the rules, after spending the previous few weeks pushing back against claims that the rules were too complicated :)
@@magnusalexander2965 Yeah, I think she actually tried very much and even consulted her advisors to not break the rules. But her 60th anniversary birthday celebration were to be counted as a "public event" and not private family festivity (also, she originally invited 10 people, but then some more friends arrived I think). Well, I atleast think she just misinterpreted her own rules. And I think Labour was much more damaged by the vice leader holding a large drinking party in Bodø, in a hotel, whilst the city was in a total lockdown, which violated alot of corona rules just a few days after Solberg's birthday party leaked into the press. But yeah, idk, it seems kinda forgotten right now
How dare you think the elites should be subject to the rules made to control the masses?
As long as they can get reelected they have no reason to care. However that said, some of their ideas might just not be possible or take more than one term to make reality.
I love how the majority of these election videos are "new elections X leave EU?!?!!!"
Its ridiculous.
Agreed
could you maybe do a video explaining what Norwegian parties stand for and their ideologies?
Cuz the Centre Party is different in Norway then other Scandinavian agrarian parties.
Yeah they seem to be pretty much the opposite of most Nordic Centre parties.
@@DaDunge Not really. They're just very good at horse-trading. ;-) Norway is more rural and decentralized than most west-European countries, and the Centre Party fronts these district interests. Politically, especially on environment and culture, they're quite conservative. But they want heavy subsidies to the districts and farmers, and the centre-left are more willing to promise that. - The party have traditionally belonged to the non-socialist side, and it's anyone's guess when they flip again.
they basically want to decentralize the economy with more emphasis on smaller fisheries and farms and such. They are also very protectionist and want huge tarrifs on meat, cheese and such imports (we already have huge tarrifs which is why a kg of mid tier beef costs like 35 euro. They also want more green energy. They also want to build infrastructure like health and schools for smaller towns so they dont have to move or travel far.
@Zeno the Filipino Are you serious? Because that would be extremely bad.
@Zeno the Filipino Definitely not. It'll lead extreme polarization and grid lock.
Switzerland is not EEA. Only Lichtenstein, Iceland, and Norway are EEA. Lichtenstein, Iceland, Norway, and Switzerland are in the EFTA.
Switzerland rejected EEA membership in a referendum in 1992.
He’s young and naive and doesn’t really understand politics!
@@callumbush1 7:05
Watch the video and make sure to turn on the sound. If you're still confused, ask for help.
He said that EEA give EFTA member states access to EU singel market and listed EFTA members.
Switzerland is based
The most predictable election is Russian 😂
I thought they dont have elections anymore until Putin dies
@@FriedrichBarb They have rigged elections, the outcome is the same though.
In Federal Russia, President elects you.
its sad, in all of Russia's existence they have had only 4 years of real democracy
North Korean is also not too difficult to guess
saying russia is having an election is a bit of a stretch isn't it
In Russia, election upsets you
@Eichhörnchen Wibbleflup Putin doesn't need to intervene in the elections because he eliminates credible opposition
@@fra604 what are you talking about? They are just very unlucky with car accidents, medical overdoses, poison and suicide by gunshot(s).
same for the US, Singapore, Japan and many more so-called democratic countries.
@@AlternateHistory Not the same at all, as you can see from people voting with their feet. But in China, N-Korea, Venezuela ...
On your note at 3:43 you translate "Fremskrittspartiet" to "The Freedom Party" which is wrong. Their name is translated to "The Progress Party"
The freedom party was probobly not a translation but instead an explanation.
@@babelfisk1870 The note says: "The Freedom Party haven't been part of the government since 2020". It is correct that The Progress Party has not been part of the government since January 2020, so it would be a confusing and totally unnecessary "explanation" to use the concept of a "Freedom Party" instead of the name of the actual party they are referring to.
"Will they abandon Europe"
Ya think it's possible to take the entirety of Norway into a boat and sail it somewhere else?
Should sail the entire Europe as far away as possible from Africa and the Middle East
@UpNorth Same thing in Sweden, even though we are connected to Denmark by a bridge.
Of course! They are Vikings :)
That reminds me when I was in school in 2016 (year 9) after the brexit referendum, and someone seriously thought we'd no longer be in the continent of Europe and asked our geography teacher what continent would we be in after brexit.
JKM2468 I know
No, Norway wont leave EEA. They might not be happy with their relation but they certainly don´t want to leave.
why is that?
@@TheAmericanPrometheus Its pretty much a non-issue. I live in Sweden and the sentiment are the same here. We don’t want to join the Euro and we complain about EU a lot. But we don’t want to leave either. It’s a bit like a middle-road scandinavian approach.
@@TheAmericanPrometheus Because if Norway leaves EEA, they end up broken and economically isolated with severe restrictions like UK. There is no benefit leaving EEA, yet they still have a lot of advantages not being in the EU.
Eu its trash get out u don't need it ur first world country stay like that
@@forestmanzpedia advantages like what?
The Czech Republic also has legislative elections this October.
Go pirates!
Can't wait to see the results. I take it you're Cezch? What's the overall sentiment toward the EU in the Czech Republic?
@@hannahg8439 I would say we’re relatively pro-eu, not so much for euro though. The euroscepticism is rising mostly because of EU's plans for our future, but even the most eurosceptic parties in our parliament are becoming more pro EU.
@@hannahg8439 EU is used as a boogeyman and a sacrificial lamb for all our problems by our corrupt politicians. This unfortunately fuels eurosceptic sentiments, but the current leading party in the polls is very pro-EU.
@@AntrozLPs TBF it would be lunacy to leave EU. Not just coz the CZ gets more cash out of EU than it gives in, but economically. This passing blame on is pretty much silly. I'm not saying EU is amazing, but anti-EU is just plain silly.
Sounds like a democracy that is functioning properly
When it comes to who you can vote for, yes. When it comes to regional democracy, no. Just look at what they did to the County mergers last year, with some opposing it 85% yet the government arrogantly pushed it through anyways.
@@emizerri Can't they just take back the merger, when the national government changes?
@@felicious6384 That is what SP the centre party wants, and primarily why they've grown so strong this period (not because they're anti-EU)
@@emizerri The voters can make their opinions heard this year by supporting parties that want to revert that.
Norway would never leave the EFTA, there would never be a majority for that. Before that would happen AP and H would go in a coalition
Yes hopefully Labour will stay sober and make the right decitions. The populists and extreimists in SV and SP should never have power.
Glad to hear that! I figure it you're Norwegian? What's your take on the EU?
Sorry to say, but a recent survey concluded only 48% of Norwegians would have voted to enter the eea if the choice was made today... I really don't hope we leave though...
@@FluffyMons I'm not familiar with the study, but isn't it likely that 48% means that a majority is in favor of the EU? Considering that there's always a certain amount of people who are neutral. If only 5% of people in the survey said they are indifferent about the EEA that would mean that 48% are in favor and only 47% are against. 🤷♀️
@@FluffyMons Recent als in "after Brexit" recent? 52% Norwegians looked at the UK and thought ... we want that too?
Even though SP and SV might be against current EU agreements, AP would never risk the collapse of relations with Norway's biggest trade partner and if such a vote was put forward AP would vote against it. This is nowhere at all an important enough case for SP to push this through in negotiations. The reason SP has nearly doubled the last 4 years comes down to topics like decentralisation.
Ehhh and Acer.
Most important issues are 1) regional politics 2) economic inequality 3) environment.
So Moving Left Is Probably The Best Idea It Gets Rid Of Class Stops Selfish Capatlists
A prime minister got fined because of a covid-party? That's probably sonething that i would never see in my country (Greece), because the law isn't applied to the politicians and their friends the same way it is applied to the common people :(
You heard of DiEM25? It's a small party led by Yanis Varoufakis. You might like them as an alternative to the Greek establishment.
@@hannahg8439 Yeah i know him, i just think that many of the things he says are too unrealistic.
@@hannahg8439 Aren't they Socialist?
I love these videos in which you explain the politics of different European countries and I love that you do it in depth! Thank you and keep up the great work.
@Zeno the Filipino yea its a greate informative channel. personaly I'd like if they also removed the question part in their titles. "Will They Abandon Europe?" seems clickbaity to me
@@Legendaryium I totally agree. It is click-bait. It’s populism and therefore ultimately neoliberalism. It’s not so easy to make videos about current events that are impartial, TLDR offers superficial, but easily understood teasers that might encourage people to actually investigate the issues for themselves. That’s the only justification I can find for it. However when we see titles like this, clearly aiming to appeal to the Brexiters and all the others with an interest in ‘pop politics’, the channel shows its true colours.
Well guys not to poop the party but as a Norwegian this isn't very accurate. It talks about very irrelevant things about the election and it doesn't quite conway how our politics work.
Namely the politics being far to chill to vote based on the prime minister inviting some extra people to her birthday. She paid the fine, and we don't vote based on leaders anyway. The conservatives has been at a steady decline since 2013. And so has the labour party. That dip in votes has nothing to with her party, It's just a reversion to pre corona politics.
No significant party in Norway really wants to leave the European partnership. Some are just using big words to try and differentiate themselves among the the rest. Sorry, but this video is just much too shallow to provide any useful information about the actual state of affairs in Norway right now.
Superficial, populist videos parading as unbiased journalism is the speciality of TLDR. Hence the name.
@@nigelhaywood9753 true
@@nigelhaywood9753 I dunno if populist is quite the right word there, but you’re not wrong with the other points
"Will they abandon Europe?" Short answer: No. Long answer: No, they won't.
Why are you Tommies so OBSESSED with everything that could potentially be negative for the EU?
its a british channel, so you know :)
@@kmeanxneth true.
Okay.
No. Norway is not leaving the EEA.
Yes two of the parties want changes to the agreement, but changing the agreement does NOT equal wanting to leave.
I promise you, after the brexit fiasco, it would be political suicide to even air the *idea* of leaving the EEA for *any* of them.
Fiasco?
UK is fine.
@@jdlc903 I don't think "fiasco" is unwarrented, but would "the theatre of brexit" be better? "Debacle"? The UK conservatives have been saying "let's get out" for years and they're still not entirely out.
And when it comes to "fine", I'd say it depends on your POV. If you were a UK fisherman or trucker or florist I don't think you'd argue everything is "fine".
@@jdlc903 I would not call the UK the Singapore of Europe either.
@@StealthyMoose truckers are fine.logistic companies might be complaining about having to introduce sign on bonuses though.
Supermarket shelves are a bit sad. I mean, no one is going hungry because of Brexit (yet) but things are clearly more expensive (specially fruit) and there are holes in shelves and less variety to choose from.
As a Norwegian, I think your channel is leaving out two important things: 1) That the Center Party has seen the largest growth (from 10% to between 15-20%), due to opposition to the many centralization reforms lead by the Conservative-lead government (gaining a lot of votes from Labour as well as the government parties) and 2) that the Center Party has been very sceptic to join a government with support from the environmentalist (MDG: The Greens, who has been up and down in the polls between 3-6%), the left (SV: The Socialist Left Party, quite steady at 9-11%) and far left (Raudt: The Red Party, which might do their best election ever, from 1% to 3-6%), in order to pick up more votes both from other centrist parties and the right. They favor a two party government with them and Labour, either with an outright majority or a minority government with possible budget support from across the political specter on a case to case basis.
And because of the cloverleaf, I thought the Centerparty would be the Green Party
@@derorje2035 they're the "other green" as in farmers
The EU isn’t 'Europe'. Write it out 500 times so you don’t forget.
Btw we in North Macedonia are also having local elections in October
Get out of eu trust me its trash
@@rickyyacine4818 They are not even in the EU you muppet.
@@felicious6384 thank god
@@rickyyacine4818 But OBVIOUSLY they are trying to become members!
There is no talk about distancing Norway from the EU. I assume it’s part of the cooperation agreement between AP and SP.
There is according to UK news papers, countries like Italy, France, Netherlands, Greece and Poland are all at the point of leaving the EU, Swiss and Norway want out of the single market.
For some reason people of those respective countries have no idea what they are talking about.
@@buddy1155 UK news papers know our country better than us, apparently XD
@@buddy1155 They need no write about it to justify their brexit
@@buddy1155 are the newspapers in the UK really saying that? holy shit thats disgusting
@@1995pieter I think it actually funny. especially as all anti-EU parties changed their tune from leaving the EU to changing the EU, 100% due to Brexit.
They got that whole narrative that the EU is now panicking and haven't got enough money without the UK and everything is falling apart.
It wasn’t even Solberg that organized the party…It was her husband, and it was a surprise.
What do you mean?
Got any sources?
@@Luredreier. Her husband organized a surprise party for her birthday, meaning she had no way to know or to stop it from happening. There was some news article, just look it up and you’ll probably find it…
@@Luredreier It was even talked about during the interview she had with NRK after it had happend. People were of course too fast to say that she was a bad person and not look at all the facts
It's perfectly possible to just tell everyone to leave. There's absolutely no excuse for a government minister to be breaking the law.
@@lastdreamofhome Doesn’t make it her fault... And I find it perfectly reasonable for her to have been so surprised and focused on having her loved ones there, that she simply didn't think of the restrictions.
I frankly doubt Norway will change much in its relationship with the EU. It will probably try to finetune some agreements and that will be it.
A refugee crisis (Afghanistan, anyone?) would probably rattle some cages, though.
What is the Norwegians attitude towards refugees and immigrants in general?
@@darthlazurus4382 Depends on the region.
The cities that tend to lean left are positive towards immigration and refugees.
The right wing ones more sceptical.
In rural areas immigration is seen as positive in some areas that's being depopulated, but European immigrants, especially from other Germanic nations are preferred.
So Sweden, Denmark, the Netherlands, Germany, Switzerland and Austria.
Some areas also where positive to refugees, but got burned earlier when they invested in infrastructure to handle more refugees but didn't get the money promised from the central government and they also didn't get the long term refugee influx they planned for when investing in them.
So the companies set up to deal with refugees went bankrupt, the municipalities ended up footing the bills and people got less... Keen... On refugees in general...
It was just handled poorly by the central government...
But on the whole the country isn't bad for either refugees or immigrants.
The main problem is that the culture isn't too conductive towards integration.
It's hard to get friends here.
And the laws can make it hard for refugees to interact with natives.
Also you need local work permits, tax cards and a education that's considered valid in this country.
That means that you'll get surgeons and engineers from some other countries with education that's frankly better then anything we got that's still working in jobs like cleaning toilets and floors.
And they sometimes end up being better paid for those cleaning jobs then they would be for the jobs they're actually educated for at home...
It's a system that's quite frankly unfair.
But both sides of the political debate have reasons for keeping it.
It's mostly the political center (except the center party) and far left that genuinely wants more refugees and immigration.
@@Luredreier
Thank you for the answer.
It sounds like things would be fantastic if Norway had leadership that cared.
We Scots have different but similar issues. We are mostly open to immigration and refugees settling with us, but immigration isn't devolved and refugees are shunted into poorer communities.
@@darthlazurus4382 Our government care about the country but they're extremely pragmatic.
Too many immigrants would mean more competition on the labour market if they're skilled and more burden on our welfare system if they're not.
So our government wants to strike a balance, getting *some* immigrants and refugees but not too many.
Different parties disagree about how many and of what kind.
FrP is probably our most anti-immigration political party, followed by H, SP and then AP.
KrF wants a more *humane* and principle guided refugee treatment.
V and SV wants more immigrants and refugees both and are against the strict rules we have preferring more free movement for people.
The rest of the parties are somewhere in the middle.
At least that's my understanding of the different party positions.
@@Luredreier This is the one of the main problems with democracy. It puts a strain on getting things done because no one in other parties can't agree. Disagreements are natural but there needs to be a smoother place in line to get things done. When you have people all over the place who have different agendas, you make it harder for your country, city, and state to move forward.
Thank you for calling them "crowns" and not "kroners".
They why is it spelled kroners instead of crowns?
@@millevenon5853 "krone" is the Norwegian word for crown, and the word they use for their own currency. "kroner" is the plural version-Norwegian uses a plural "-r" in this case. For this reason, using the English plural "-s" on it ("kroners") sounds really weird, not to mention the inevitable odd pronunciation. I find it's just less of a hassle to use the English word "crown".
FFS, Europe should continue integrating, not dividing. We can't stand against China, Russia and Murica divided.
Yes, because a large central government has been proven stable and not at all authoritarian in China, Russa and Murica...
@@Panteni87 all three of them are different countries.
America isn't authoritarian
@@andreyu5640 idk, the militarized police, nationwide vaccine mandates, a huge prison population, an oppressive healthcare system, a media apperatus that is in the same hands as the politicians, the unbalanced judicial system (only affordable for the rich) and much more. Besides, at the moment it isn't the most stable of countries, it's ripping apart at the seams. Maybe you need to re-think what authoritarian is to you?
Norway exports 60% of its goods to the EU. Would they be daft enough to follow the UK's lead?
I certainly hope not. With a center-left coalition, the prospect of an EFTA exit on the whole is quite unlikely, but the smaller socialist parties SV and SP could easily attempt to force Labour into a re-negotiation of the deal. To the detriment of everyone but their own voters, naturally.
I think you count in UK in this (old) figure.
The thinking is that we actually make things Europe needs, like oil, so we would still be able to sell it to the eu without a deal
@@Adrian-rb4qp Oil is not the future. Thinking that we can make better deals on our own is laugable. Uk cant why should we be able to? We need europe more than they need us.
@@Adrian-rb4qp Norway without a trade deal will be a huge gift to Italy and the other eu members near nord africa. At that point, there will be no difference between buy oil from Normway or from Egypt and friends: Eni and Total will thank later.
Could you do a series on explaining all of Europe's Green Parties in one video, all of Europe's Labour/centre left Parties and all of Europe's Conservative Parties.
I like this idea, you should use the link in the description which allows you to send suggestions to TLDR. Apparently they look over all of them, (although tbh, I don’t believe they do, since they still haven’t done my video on why LED lights look bad and how they will probably cause WW3)
@@thelegend_doggo1062 Thanks, I'll use the link.
@@illegitimateotaku794 Yeah, I'd love a overview of the various European political parties.
But not just limited to a few like that.
While I vote Green they're a small party here in Norway and in several other European nations even though they're big in some now.
And there's other parties that's interesting.
Some unique to individual nations.
It's so easy in Russia. The future parliament composition is are already known. No need for coalitions, negotiations, or competitions. As Russian's Duma chairman once said: "There is Putin - there is Russia. There is no Putin - There is no Russia".
Грёбанный цирк уродов...
PM Solberg commented on a news conference: “Is it credible that little Norway will get a better deal with the EU than big Britain can? I don’t think so,” in addition she said: “Parties who say it is defensible to leave the European single market because we can negotiate a new, better deal should look at the terms”. Also a majority of Norwegians polled in recent surveys support the oil-rich nation’s membership of the single market. When it comes to staying in the single market, Labour and Conservatives have a clear majority in parliament.
Well said.
While I try to be reasonably informed about political issues, I'm not politically active.
However, if there is any chance that there will be a political majority for leaving the Single Market, or for starting any annoying "we can get a much better deal" thing then I will activate myself. Solberg says the obvious thing, we will not get a better deal than the UK, and we really can't afford the UK deal. We are way too small and way too dependent upon EU trade.
For the UK it's easier to be on the outside, but it will (most likely, close to certainly) cost them dearly.
@@AldriFerdig I agree.
I think I'll begin to involve myself in politics after this election. Even if there is no change in the "EØS" agreement. As i see it as more constructive to be proactive. And i see it as a public duty if you are able to join in the decisionmaking in both local and national politics.
Leavers: THE PEOPLE OF NORWAY HAVE REJECTED THE COLLAPSING AND TYRANNICAL EU!
Anyone else: Well, actually it looks like the environment and the economy are more important issues, and---
Leavers: THE PEOPLE OF NORWAY HAVE REJECTED THE COLLAPSING AND TYRANNICAL EU!
Norway will physicality detach from the european continent and go on an adventure.
Sweden will be speechless with an all new coastline.
Clickbait much?
How? There is actually a real chance norway will move away from europe.
No
Whoever did the translating of the name «fremskrittspartiet» to «the freedom party», should lose their job...
Anyone, repeat ANYONE, who claims that Norway "...is the closest country to EU membership..." simply has NO idea what they think they are talking about.
Norway is NOT EVEN a candidate for EU membership.
They have had two referenda about singing the EEC/EC/EU, and the Norwegians said 'NO!" on both occasions...
There is no official, governmental or party political, support in Norway for even beginning the process of applying....
When you are not even in EU but you still need it as an handy scapegoat.
This makes me think that they will not abandon the treaties.
As a liberal, climate-conscious and pro-EU voter here in Norway, I'll be the first to admit I'm very biased when I'm saying this, but I'm really quite worried about a future center-left coalition.
The problem is, Norway is getting rich off of poisoning the rest of the world with the sale of hydrocarbons. The four biggest parties in this country, both on the left and right sides of the aisle, are all in favor of continued extraction. Long-term. Possibly forever.
Imagine a scenario where ~70-80% of the national parliamentary seats: Labour, Conservative, Center/Farmers and Libertarians, all pursue the exact same policy of short-term profit-maximization... in complete defiance of the International Energy Agency and every single commitment to the Paris Agreement... while presenting Norway as the world's number one forerunner on sustainability!
There's no end in sight to this madness. My country has gotten completely drunk on oil. We can't see the damage we're causing and will likely never suffer greatly from it, due to fortunate geography and a metric shit ton of money saved up from the oil and gas booms. We can pay our way out of the misery. The rest of the world can't.
Norwegian exceptionalism is the biggest curse to ever plague my country. You see it with oil and gas, and it's the exact same thing with EU policy. We game and rig the system every time to thrive under the most "favorable" conditions, in complete disregard for the hard work of the international community to cooperate and solve common problems.
If you're a fellow Norwegian reading this: vær så snill og vurdér å avlegge en stemme til et klima-parti! Ikke så farlig hvilket det er. Venstre, MDG, SV eller Rødt funker.
Venstre her 😁🇧🇻
We need demand-side curtailment of fossil fuel use, not supply-side curtailment.
@@mikicerise6250 Why not both at once?
@@Benjaminimal Because Norway curtailing its extraction would be useless. Any number of other petrol producing nations would gladly step in to fill the void, and quite frankly if we're going to buy petrol in the short term it is better to buy it from Norway than from Saudi Arabia, Iran or Venezuela. Our liberal democratic arses are against the wall as it is and the last thing we need is to further strengthen authoritarian regimes.
Fundamentally we need to eliminate the demand for petrol by drastically increasing clean energy generation with new nuclear power plants, producing clean hydrogen where necessary and shifting to batteries where possible. Nothing else is going to cut the mustard.
*Norway*: the leader holds a birthday party with 16 people and the party suffers in the polls.
*Portugal*: the leader diverts 14% of GDP to friends and accounts in Switzerland, bankrupt the country, sells heritage, monuments and palaces to private people and embezzles the money, sells the dams which made Portuguese electricity one of the most expensive in europe to the country with one of the lowest average salaries, asked for a financial rescue from the EU because of his government ruin and launches the country into 5 years of TROIKA and 12 years of stagnation, with the young population emigrating in order to have dignity, but his party and his minister are at the top of the polls and with the possibility of achieving absolute majorities.
Portugal is a pathetic country, it is a democracy just in name, not in reality, in reality it is a Kleptocracy, the politicians/bosses/banksters steal/lie/cheat what they can, and the population suffers what they must.
And unfortunately, a lot of the population are political illeterates,and won´t vote the filth out, in Norway the filth would likely be killed by a sort of Breivik.
Meanwhile in Hungary... :'( XD :'(
Same in S-PAIN. Haha
Are the conservatives in Portugal any better?
@@barnaby4232 portugal is a left wing country. we never had a conservative government. the rigthest government we can have is PSD-CDS. PSD are the liberals and CDS are the catholic conservatives. this party is in decline with only 4 seats in parliamnent. but there is a growing rigth-wing nationalistic party called "chega", but this party isnt conservative either, is a nationalistic version of PSD that is more critical of the government.
You can include the Isle of Man on the list of having elections this year as well. And before anyone asks, no, we are not a part of the United Kingdom 🇮🇲
Crown non dependant or something like that right? You have your own government but we have a travel agreement in place to allow travel between all the Islands and Ireland if I remember correctly.
@@FullTimeGaming360 very close, Crown dependency is the technical term. We have our own Parliament, government, and therefore laws and regulations. We have reciprocal agreements for healthcare and travel with the UK, but the only representative we have regarding the UK is called the Lieutenant Governor :)
@@robertjuangreggor2385 Cool, only been over a few times for the TT. Been looking to go back at some point but with the pandemic plans get changed.
As a Norwegian. I can't say i've heard any talk in the debates about the EU in general.
Which leads me to believe that it's not an important discussion for this election. The last debate i listened to, they were discussing about the recent police reforms. Whether we should centralize or decentralize. They also talked a little about the inheritance tax. I only follow politics occationally though.
Still, i don't think there's any interest to either join nor distance ourselves from the EU.
I think we're pretty comfortable with our current position.
An actual police force that punishes their own government for breaking their rules.
Norwegian politician breaks their own covid rules once: Takes a major hit in the polls.
Dutch VVD politicians break their covid rules repeatedly: Gains seats after election.
you should see what PS party does to portugal. but they keep winning more seats
Norway, just like the UK, is no less European for not being a part of the E.U. They're not abandoning "Europe," but rather an economic agreement which isn't even as old as my mom. I'm not sure why we've accepted the premise (or even just the rhetoric) that EU membership = European Identity.
Because being EUropean i.e. being an EU citizen has become the same as being American i.e. being a US citizen.
@@popelgruner595 "You will own nothing and be happy"
This video really overexaggerates how big of an issue the EEA agreement is in this election. The actual big issues in this election are healthcare, climate, inequality, and centralization.
Had to grin a little when you said Russia has an „election“ this year
It isn't time to swap in Medvedev again, is it? xD
yeah no, they do have elections
@@mikicerise6250 No, no. They changed the constitution, so that they do not need to swap any more. :D Theoretically, he can stay in power till 2036.
1:32 CYPRUS??? I thought we were handling this terribly wow I’m proud of my country for once
Cyprus : 12 points !
Love from Belgium.
Kind of depends on what they mean by Cyprus. The whole island, only the "Greek" parts, including or excluding the british exclaves?
Leaving the EEA is not going to happen. There might be some EEA-directives being re-negotiated, like one energy or railways, but I really doubt it in the end. A more likely scenario is some re-interpretation of the implementation of these directives. Norway has traditionally implemented these to the letter, while observing EU-countries not doing the same. I think some changes might happen here.
I've understood that one of the issues with the UK is that they had the tendancy to gold plate directives and didn't understand you're supposed to tailor the directive to your local situation and that there's a built-in fuzziness you're suppose to take advantage of. Leading to things like them saying the EU banned weighing scales in pounds when it did no such thing.
I hope Norway doesn't have the same issue. But it also doesn't help that Norway doesn't have a seat at the table.
@@martijn8554 So you're saying part of the reason the UK left is that they followed the rules to the letter too much, that is actually hilarious.
@@martijn8554 I'd rather think that the UK government understood that well enough. (Well, mostly.)
But these things were picked up by a tabloid press mobilising for Brexit, and provided welcome fodder for sensationalist "I'm being oppressed here!" stories by intentionally misunderstanding these rules.
What about Solberg herself, you think she will stay in power?
@@literalnobody7921 There is very little chance of that. Less than a month to the election and they are way behind in the polls
I didn't knew a country could leave a continent...
Question to any Norwegians in the comments: Can you explain why euroskepticism seems to be a left-wing position in Norway? Both SV and Senterpartiet are against joining the EU, Høyre supports it. Inside the EU, it is usually a right-wing position to be against the EU, and most center and left parties are in favor of it.
Very short, the trade. The left never are interested in making an earning, they are all about spending.
And being pro-EU is not a leftist thing either. Germany’s CDU, in Britain both the Labour and Conservative Party were split. The trade laws, and the free market requirements makes it attractive to the right wing.
It’s populists who are against the EU; Senterpartiet, Rødt etc
Dagfins reply is obviously silly. I can speak for general Left wing opposition to the EU, but not Norways particular left position.
The criticism of the EU is essentially that it massively weakens the power of Labour, as freedom of movement allows for companies to simply hire foreigners if local workers begin to unionise/demand certain rights.
There are many other criticisms too, but I am not comfortable to argue their case until I read Lapavistas "the left case against the EU"
Leftist criticism is that the entire EU is a "neoliberal" project. They claim that the Common market makes the member states compete for lower wages., lower taxes, lower social security etc.
Left-wing parties oppose EU membership for slightly different reasons, but the main arguments for the Center Party is maintaining national autonomy, and strong opposition to centralisation and the common agricultural policy. On the other hand, SV views the EU as a scary, neo-liberal institution, have concerns about maintaining Norway's system of labor rights and, most importantly: are ideologically quite opposed to free trade agreements. The Labour Party was traditionally split pretty 50-50 on the EU issue, where the nay-side might cite a mixture of the two lines of thought.
I'm very pro-EU, so that'll put me squarely in the minority. At best we're looking at a 35% rate of support for EU integration. We've had two separate referendums in the past that have twice resulted in consecutive wins for the nay-side. Each time by a slim
Great video! Would love a more in-depth look at the different political parties.
Czechia has a legislative election this year too, set to take place durin 8th and 9th of October.
Abandon effectively being on the EU. Not Europe as your headline says.
As a Norwegian I have to thank you for this video. Both a refreshing perspective (with some surprising angles) and satisfying depth.
great video, minor nitpick is that Switzerland is not in the EEA officially, although it is in schengen, otherwise good vid
hypocricy is never apreciated
8:10 My suggestion - Noraway
Would be great to get a deeper dive into the parties if possible
Ok. As a Norwegian, this makes me happy to see. And it was well done. A few notes to add if I may.
The right wing part is splintered a bit, with FRP not supporting Høyre and being in general more interested in working with SP (center party), which SP didn't want to even hear from what I know. Venstre and KRF is not doing well either being under 4% last I checked.
So the amount of allies willing to work with Erna as PM is lacking. SP stated they wanted their candidate (leader of SP) to be PM, so atm, they are the wild card as to whom they might work with.
Venstre on Høyre's side is not garnering much support from the districts because of them saying they wanted in EU full as a member, which many in district Norway despises.
MDG (environment party) is facing backlash from a project they overspend on a ton in Oslo, and it doesn't seem to matter much for the people there, the people in Oslo is going heavy on the left, Rødt, SV and MDG for the most part. But district Norway see them less favourably because of things like that and their aggressiveness to tax people needing a gasoline car to get to work.
There is a lot of factors involved this time around. And even though I have tried to keep up, it is hard to get 100% my head around as to who is gonna win the election. Left is leading in the polls. But there is still roughly 1mill people on undecided. So the right can pick up a lot of votes there, think they only need around 80k to get above AP.
Love to talk about this, so if anybody wanna chat or ask about this, I will do what I can to fill in the blanks.
Thanks again for making the video, love to learn about the elections in different countries as well as seeing my own from an outsider's perspective.
Hold on: Is that really the U.N. emblem in reference to NATO @5:53??!
It would be just as interesting to understand how the media is opened and operated in Norway. I hear government pays/subsidies many media companies of many sizes with matching funds relative to subscriber/ readership base correct?
Well yes, but only the ones that are "unique". Local papers are also. Religion is provided free of charge, that is if you steer clear of sects that are in it for the money.
A small difference. The state pays, not the Government.
Norway would be making very stupid decision. UK has shown how damaging is to remove themselves out of single market.
How exactly would they do that? It usually takes hundreds of thousand of years for parts of continents to split off from each other. Britain is still a part of Europe and the rest of Europe are still the closest neighbours.
lol, we have pickaxes ;.-)
How on earth can a country distance itself from Europe when it is part of the European continent? It’s hardly going to float off into the Atlantic!
Obviously they want to do a trade deal of their own with the UK.
@@marksimons8861 That’s hardly distancing themselves from Europe as the UK is in Europe too 🤷🏼♂️
norway: prime minister breaks covid rules, has to pay a fine and loses significant support from the public
turkey: president does super-spreader rallies for its party across the country, nothing happens past social media outrage
Norway usually always gives the center left, and center right blocks 2 terms and that is it. Will this pattern hold up or not? Is it possible for the Center Party to form a government? The Labor Party has been the largest party in Norway's Parliament since in 1927, it doesn't appear that this will change for this election or could it.
Its definately time for the socialist side again now. The last decade has been used to move way more money to the big cities and to the rich.
Now the billionaires are crying every f...ing day in the media, because they fear some of their money going to the more unfortunate.
Very well made video! Very interessting to see the upcoming election with an outsider perspective! I doubt Norway will distance itself much from Europe though. Norway's economy is very dependant on access to the single market and our closest neighbours and trading partners, with the exception of the UK, are all EU-members. The EEA is a compromise noone really wants to touch in Norwegian politics because it will be very controversial not just on the left side. The Center Party has always been heavily against both EU and EEA membership and use it to catch EU sceptical voters. However, The Labour Party and The Conservaties are still the two biggest parties and no way they will let The Center Party and Socialist Left Party take Norway out of the single market (or NATO).
Suggestion (unless you guys already did this and I didn't notice): Norway is in a dispute with Hungary (and to a lesser extent Poland) over money paid for access to the EEA, could you make a video about it?
Okay the Denmarkians, Finllatians, the Ikeaites, and the Elvish empire ofIceland should all be ruled by one brave and masculine Viking king. .u have betrayed your ancestors. You all should be getting on boats and attacking European coastal cities for plunder because they are not well fortified you should renounce your Christian God and beg your ancient gods for forgiveness and to give u wisdom for upcoming battles.
At least that's the popular view in the United States
@@Mynipplesmychoice Don't hold your breath waiting for that
5:35: Switzerland is not an EEA-member. The relationship between the EU and Switzerland is based on bilateral treaties.
One thing I love about parties that talk about this or that policies before forming a government is how they promise so much but rarely deliver, it's easy for a party that isn't in power to say anything they want, it's another thing to go through with it when in power as they are the ones that will get stick from the people.
Realistically, I can't see Norway pulling away from Europe is quite laughable with everything that's going on in the UK, it's easy to say we'll save 2.7 billion but as the UK is finding out the hard way, they are actually losing money.
Beside, the countries that do well in Europe that are not in the EU are countries that have strong relations with the EU, the UK is the exception and they are slowly sinking, it will be interesting to see where the UK is over the next decade or 2 but it's not looking good for them.
I also can't help but think that many of these videos are looking at European countries through the lens of how the UK thinks or want to see which isn't a good idea because they seem to get it wrong most of the time as we saw on Brexit.
While you're right about us not moving away from the EU and our EEA agreement anytime soon you're kind of wrong about the whole promises thing.
In the UK parties don't publish clear plans for how they want to achieve their goals in the same way that the party programs in Norway does.
The UK programs seem to just state the goals.
Here we have actual plans stated then using the different plans in the different party programs as a starting point the parties negotiate some kind of compromise that tries to maintain the essence.
With a anti-EU majority in the coalition it's possible that we'll refuse one or two EU directives that's hard camels to swallow for us and we might be harder to negotiate with when negotiating for the payments we make to the EU.
But that's about it.
The fundamentals won't be changed.
Labour won't accept that and would enter a coalition with the conservatives rather than completely abandon the EEA.
@@Luredreier If there is one thing I've learned about anti EU parties is that most talk a good deal but rarely fallow through with it and a big part of that is because it's easy to say a lot of things when not in power, it's another story once in power and they get it in the neck when things go wrong, hence why so many soften their stance once in power.
We've got to also remember that the oil won't last forever, once that starts to dry up, the economics of Norway will slowly start to fall in line with other small western countries and in fact the ones in the EU would actually have an advantage in many areas but that's many decades away.
I don't think it really matters, it's likely the EU is going to continue to expand and integrate, it's going to be quite difficult for countries on the outside to do really well without having good terms with the EU.
@@paul1979uk2000 people who "talk a good deal but rarely follow through" will struggle if proper plans are demanded of them, and thus our expectations from our political parties protect us from somewhat from the worst populists
@@paul1979uk2000 You don't understand mountain peoples...
Neither Switzerland nor Norway will join the EU in the coming twohoundred years at least...
It's a *myth* in the EU that the oil has anything to do with us not being a member.
Mountain peoples in the world world in all times have been reluctant towards being ruled by outsiders (people outside their owe valley), and only grudgingly enter confederations with other mountain dwellers against outsiders.
Local self rule is extremely important to mountain dwellers, and the idea of being ruled by others in either a centralized or federal government is 100% unacceptable.
A confederation where power comes from the bottom and up rather then from the top down is the only viable option.
And Norway being a centralized state only works because of the large amount of power that rural areas have in our country and the focus on serving those areas justifying the membership in the country daily.
@@Luredreier There's no way any of us could know what's going to happen over the next 10 years never mind 200 lol.
A lot is changing, the EU is consolidating, expanding and it's going to become more difficult for smaller countries in the long run because bigger ones are getting bigger and many smaller ones are trying to form some kind of union like the EU so they can compete.
Besides, I think you misunderstand how the EU works and how power is done at the EU, how the EU forms is truly up to the people of Europe, most countries won't give up power unless it's done fair and in a right way.
Also, lets be honest, Norway and Switzerland are more or less already EU members but with little to no say in it's policies.
Time for follow up vid!
3:29 The party you're referring to in the text is the "Progress party" (more accurately called the Regressive party), not "Freedom party"
Lol seeing what they stand for you're pretty right. I thought they're not as "crazy" as the other European far right parties.
@@adrielsebastian5216 under their new leader, it seems like they're heading that way. The previous leader mostly kept the wackos in check, but apparently lost that fight in the end. The current leader is taken straight out of Norway's bible belt, and acts and speak like you would expect similar from USA to act.
@@diazinth I'd like to think of Siv Jensen as similar to Angela Merkel: sure, she's a conservative at heart, but she knows no one would work with her (and the FrP in general) if she kept this hard-right thing going. Instead she acted pragmatically, softening up the party's image and presented the FrP as open to compromising, *to a point* (January 2020 showed that). Her ultimate goal is always to be in a government with H.
Listhaug on the other hand seems to be more...unhinged for a lack of a better word. Maybe Siv made her deputy leader to appease the right-wing section of the party, I don't know.
Either way, it seems the FrP would remain in opposition, considering the red-greens are polling better and have a higher chance to form a govt w/ less than a month from election day.
Do correct me though, I'm not Norwegian (or European), just interested in European politics.
@@adrielsebastian5216 Pretty much on point as far as I know. And Høyre is really FrP's only option to work with as well. And they collapsed back to ~10% after leaving the H/FrP government over bringing the (Norwegian) mother of a sick IS child from Syria if I remember correctly.
@@diazinth I don't know why the more centrist parties of the government (V and KrF) eventually joined the H/FrP govt considering they initially did not want anything to do with FrP, but seeing that they're now polling just around the threshold I don't think that's really a problem.
Listhaug seems to have no problem pandering to some of society's more vile values for political gains. Kinda reminds me of some of the Republican elected official in the US.
BTW, do you think the Reds and Greens will be involved in a Ap, SV, Sp govt? They seems to be on the rise but it's kinda wild (depending on the polls they're either above or below the threshold).
Canada is also having election on the 20th of September ;-)
Switzerland is not in the EEA. For a channel that has been in the whole Brexit issue for so long this is very sad to witness...
Except they never said it was - they said it's in EFTA, which is different.
It says EFTA states. Way to make a fool of yourself
@@stefanetienney8351 Indeed they said that Switzerland is in the EFTA. However they said that EEA gives to the EFTA states certain advantages. These advantages are not granted to the Swiss though. At least not all of them and not by virtue of their participation in the EFTA.
Switzerland has its own deal which, technically, is very similar to the EEA deal, however it is not part of the EEA. And one of the main reasons is its banking system.
The problem is that it is implied that all EFTA members are members of the EEA, hence my comment.
@@borutb11 You can read my response to Stefan. And if you are in no position to judge whether I am fool or not; being a senior political science student with passion for my field makes me believe I am not. So keep your opinion for yourself.
Could you do a video on the upcoming election in the Czech Republic?
I think this is a bit to much misrepresentation here and should be scaled down. As if there is a growing anti EEA sentiment in the norwegian public: there is not! And shouldn't be used to gain views. A bit of a confidence bummer for me into your coverage. I would prefer being more critical to such far reaching and rhetorically damaging assumptions.
Pehaps NORWAY, SWEDEN FINLAND , ICELAND can form a new block for cooperation in the years to come.
One thing is sure the EU nastiness and contempt will have to be endured.
Better than waiting to be saddled with a never ending debt , from the EU.
How long can that Ponzi scheme run anyhow.
Whatever you do Norway, stay out of the EU, you have nothing to gain.
@Zuurker U All for the cheap price of transferring power to Brussels instead of it being in the hands of the people and government. It's better the citizens of Norway get to govern their own country and not foreign powers.
It has no need for these grants and programs, they have plenty of money. Joining the EU would be a detriment.
@Zuurker U Not a literal transfer of power of course. And besides, being in the EU costs money anyhow.
I'm just glad they're not headed in the direction you preach.
@Zuurker U I know what's right, I could care less of your ignorance
@Zuurker U Does eveything need to be on paper for it to be a reality for you?
@Zuurker U Or you like the EU for some reason - even though it's a bureaucratic dictatiorship - and create a reality that fits your narrative...
It's not about the membership fees either, it's about policies and agreements such as ACER, and others before it.
what? norway leaving the EEA is not at all relevant this election. why is it such a large focus this vide?
Doesn't Norway depend on their oil extraction? I understand them not wanting to slow down the activity that made them be so well off. I'd have to look up the pros and cons of this move, and alternative paths for their economy
Much better to reduce demand for oil first rather than close production. Norway is one of the few countries from whom one might buy oil products without qualms.
yeah so it makes up something like 10% of their GDP or something. If they stopped oil extraction all together they would go from being very rich to quite rich, which is a reasonable sacrifice to pay for the sake of the climate IMO
@@marksimons8861 That's very true. Reducing production now would just give more production to OPEC and the US/Canada. It probably wouldn't reduce consumption all that much.
In the future Norway will probably make at least some of it back selling hydro to places like Denmark and Germany, who are increasingly reliant on intermittent renewable energy and need someone to help keep the lights on when the sun isn't shining and the wind isn't blowing. Possibly Scotland and/or the UK as well, depending on how well nuclear SMR tech develops (I'm not confident Germany and Denmark will be interested).
Better to join the EU fully. Stronger together 💥✊💥.
@Kristian Jag håller tummarna. Händer det så blir det 🍾🥂 för min del.
@Kristian ... Någon gång i framtiden förstås. Det är ju omöjligt på kort sikt.
You don't have to be a part of One Same entity in order to be together and cooperate.
@@tomasvrabec1845 "You don't have to be a part of One Same entity in order to be together and cooperate."
but it makes it easier. and the EU is long from "One Same entity". the EU don't even qualify as a federation, let alone a "One Same entity"
the EU IS countries being together and cooperating.
@@tomasvrabec1845Want EU-light? Or no EU? Not me. Course not. The opposite. The more we collaborate and integrate, the more say we have on the world stage. More leverage. The future is not about small or smallish nation states (UK) - it's about large 'entities', e.g. China, the US, India, the EU and whatever ways they come to/decide to relate to each other.
The E.U. is like "Hotel California"...you can check out anytime you want but you can never leave...
With Brexit being a reality; the EU can now function without demagogues like Nigel Farage being a thorn in the butt.
How has the EU imposed Memorandum working out for your country Yiannis?
what you think the demagogues only exist in the UK?
Italy and Greece: Allow our economies to introduce ourselves
Or the ongoing dispute between visegrad and western Europe .
Or the Disoute between the EU commission and the German high Court?
All these issues are rather more substantial for the EU than videos of nigel farage talking in the EU parliment on youtube
@@jdlc903 actually it is not the EU but Germany that is behind the destructive austerity measures. It was all done to save the Bundesbank. Not forgetting the arms sales that crippled our economy and the Siemens scandal with the c4I that cost billions.
So, the video simplified the coalitions into a clear left-wing and a clear-right wing. But the reality is kind of more complicated than that. It is understandable to simplify things in that way because of the complexity, but I decided to just add a little bit more to the story.
The Red-Green coalition/block:
The Labour party has made it clear that they want to replicate the Stoltenberg model: Labour, Centerparty and Socialist Left. They don't want to work with Red, not sure about the Green Party..
The Center Party has made it clear that they prefer a Labour-Center party government, and does not want to have to work with the Socialist Left or anyone else.
The Socialist left also wants to follow the Stoltenberg model.
Then we have Red, the party that wants to push/draw the Labour party more towards the left.
Then we have the Green party, which was a block/wing independent party but has made it clear they now wish to work with the leftwing (Red-green parties), but they will not work with a government that keeps looking for more oil. (Labout party seems to be the big oil party here, not sure about the center party though)
As for the conservative coalition, well, it isn't that simple either.
The conservative party and Erna Solberg has made it clear that they wanted a coalition between The Liberal Party (Venstre), Christian Democratic Party (KrF), The Conservative party, and The Progress Party: The Dream coalition, however, it really was never that simple.
In the beginning, Erna Solberg had to just work with a minority government, the Conservative Party and the Progress Party, with the two other parties as only supportive parties. This was mostly because of the disagreements between the Progress Party, and the Liberal Party and the Christian Democratic party.
Then a lot of drama started to happen because a certain Progress party member wanted to say colorful things about the other party leaders.
Every time something like this happened, it seemed like that specific drama would be the end of that coalition.
This continues for some time until the Liberal Party decided to try joining the government, however, the Christian Democratic party was in a very different position.
Knut Arild Hareide, the former leader of the Christian Democratic party wrote a book where he wrote that he wanted his party to work with the Labour party and Center Party. This was then followed by an "extraordinary meeting" for the party, where he made it clear that either his party works with the left-wing or he simply steps down as the party leader, because he believed it simply wasn't right for him to join a conservative government he didn't like. This followed with the Christian Democratic party doubling the ratings on the poll.
Then the party had this "party-election thingy" (which also has its own story to be told), which wasn't what I would call clean, and the conservative block barely won. Then the party lost its gained approval rating as well as losing everyone's (The Christian Democratic) favorite party leader. After that, the Christian Democratic party joined the Blue-Green governemnt.
Now, you may think that the dream team has now been fully assembled? WRONG!
The Progress party couldn't take it anymore after like half a year or something and just left to just become a supportive party.
This is how we got today. Now keep in mind, because of the complexity of this story, I had to leave out a lot, and I could also be wrong about some of the timing here. The whole point I wanted to represent was that the coalitions aren't exactly best friends.
Have a good day.
This is correct.
can you do a video about the German labour party SPD? They are regaining votes now and their chancelor candidate is the most popular one of the candidates! So this election has so much in it. If the greens and SPD win enough votes they could even form the red-red-green coalition and ignore the CDU if they would win.
That is still very unlikely to happen. It will probably be a SPD, CDU and Green goverment.
@@frederikjrgensen252 for God sake no, then I move to.... Maybe Norway, are there other jobs but fishing and oil?
I highly doubt the SPD would want to govern with the socialist party tbh
@@olegperkopskiy2282 S in SPD stands for socialist
@@tobiasharstel7941 I am actually danish. But yes Norway has plenty of other jobs than fishing and oil
the only problem with Norway leaving EEA is that the Centre Party don't want to be in a coalition with the Socialist Left Party. Although the Labor Party wants the Socialist Left Party to join the coalition. You also skipped over a major part in why the Centre Party wants to leave the EEA, because they want to leave EEA to get a better deal with the EU.
Let's also not forget that the more pro-EU faction of the centre-left coalition can quite easily rally votes from outside the coalition on EU matters.
Sure they might make a fuss over the contribution, however it certainly feels more like a way to score a small cut back and call it a victory, rather than distancing relations with the EU.
Support for the EU is still high in Norway, the one area where people are complaining is that they pay in too much to a system they have little say over. That's what the parties reflect as well. Same good relation but pay less.
Obviously more of a talking point rather than an actual policy.
Don't see that happening, the EU already took a stance against the Brits and Swiss. And I'm fairly certain they will do the same to Norway
Wait so the people are mad that they pay money while having no say in the political decisions?
But that'd mean either give the people a say in politics or stop spending money.
In order to give norway a voice in the EU matters, it'd need to be a part of the EU.
and if norway jist wants to stop spending money they'd need to cut ties to the EU(since trading & cooperating with the EU requires a fee)
Lets not forget that the EU still works on the unanimity principle.
Meaning that if norway was to join the EU they WILL be heard.
The centre party is a party that many find difficult to take seriously, given how they keep changing their stances every five minutes.
Have you ever been to Norway? Sometimes you have to drive for hours before meeting another human being again. It's pretty hard for a virus to spread under that conditions.
One big mistake here. The potential centre-left coalition is not all five parties. The Red Party has stated that they've no interest in being in any coalition and neither Labour and SP wants to cooperate with them. SP only wants to cooperate with Labour but refuses to say if a coalition with SV is on the table or not. Neither Labour nor SP wants to cooperate with the Greens. Greens don't want to cooperate with SP. And Labour might say fuck it and govern alone.
So the only thing certain here is that Labour will be a part of the new government. The election really boils down to is which combinations grant a majority and if they can settle their differences.
Another point worth making. The incumbents have struggled for a long time, you probably need to go back to 2018 to find them winning any polls.
I didn't know you could secede from a continent
As a European I would much rather we pay money to Normay for gas than funding undemocratic nations like Russia or the middle east.