I would say Joe really changed Taylor’s genre by introducing his musical taste and perspective into her vision. If it’s not him, folklore and evermore won’t happen in that way. Like Midnights is back to her pop styles.
dude what? she was inspired by aaron dessner and the national, not joe in folklore and evermore. joe didn’t introduce them, he didn’t know aaron until taylor.
i don't think so , taylor mentioned in reputation sessions that joe mother knew about "Taylor Swift" but she didn't recognize her when they first met so i guess he just only knew about her
Even tho I'm dying to hear Exile ft William, I'm so glad that it doesn't exist on public, I'm so glad they keep their relationship so private like that. They're so good to each other and I don't want them to have problems thanks to media and social media. I don't want them to have unnecessary hate.
Taylor saying joe and her love sad songs, and her writing some of her saddest songs whilst with him says everything about him and their relationship. In her song so long london she says "how much sad did you think i had in me? How much tragedy?" This guy is super depressed, and met taylor at her lowest point so they probably bonded over their sadness, but taylor was just in a slump and was ready to get out of it, whereas joe seems to like wallowing in sadness.
I believe they are soulmates, they seem so connected on astronomical levels and its a beautiful thing to see Taylor finally be so happy without any conditions.
Interestingly Taylor speaks at length and Joe discloses very little. I think that reflects their individual attitude towards privacy. Perhaps that played into their recent break up. I have been struck by how different her new partner is in comparison to Joe. Give me Joe every time. He’s a great actor. Check out Conversations with Friends. Great series.
Even in here you can see that Taylor used to talk a lot about him, with such an enthusiastic vibe..compared to him being so brief and not excited when interviewers asked about her
she talked about him so much, with so much joy, and the biggest smile on her face everytime. joe avoided the questions with the most basic answer possible “yeah guess so”
I think Joe was better about keeping it private (like they BOTH DECIDED to do) and Taylor just got super carried away. which is fine but y'all need to stop comparing them.
@@kate5677He protected their love from media hunters. I have great respect for people who draw a line to separate their professional and personal lives. Love isn't meant for show off.
Maybe you should change the title to "Taylor Swift talking about Joe Alwyn" because I don't think he ever did. He has never mentioned Taylor's name once.
joe literally said "who knows" when asked if he and taylor can act together while calvin harris hated the idea of making music together with taylor when they were still together
So basically this is Taylor speaking about Joe, he's had nothing - great- to say about her in public. Yes I understand wanting to keep your relationship private but he has said NOTHING.
You do NOT know how their relationship was. You don't know Joe and you never will. Stop talking about people you don't know as if you do. It's none of your business and it's super embarassing on your part. So unless you have something nice to say about the man just shut up please.
@@madhushyas525 You seem like you need help I'm trying to get you to understand to not put your nose where it does NOT belong. Stop trying to attack me personally I don't care what you say honey 🙃
I’ve always seen how sad and uncomfortable Taylor was during this interview. It was painful for her to talk about him… She was smiling and laughing through pain…💔
Joe is just a very private person and that's totally ok. He never signed up for the level of fame he suddenly got. Imagine just like living your life and all of the sudden you fall in love with THE TAYLOR SWIFT 😱
I am glad that she had a "soulmate" relationship for her to value that we don t need to have the same taste or the same inclinations to bond. U know. I had a bf a long time ago that i was in love at first sight (nowadays that seems incomprehensible.) And we clicked imediately over topics of conversations and we had talk for hours and he left me like very very painfully and abruptly bur he was really planning a long time before. Cancelled all the plans with me to make his own plans. But ok it was a tough recovery. I ve dated a lot after that and I found my husband and aince the beginning, when I fell for him was a completely different story. The other one was like a passion but like irrational. Although it s nice to experience something like that once or twice in life it s not sustainable longterm wise. As soon as I fell for my husband I had a feeling of HOME. and we are completely different and it s ok. We don t have the same taste but at home it's good and funny and new even after 16 years and two teen kids. Kkkkk and it is safe and calm at the same time. It s just nice to be next to him everyday That was my love goal. ❤❤
Hah, called it from the start! I always knew Joe Alwyn seemed too 'perfect nice guy' for Taylor - and it's like his real personality never shone through. And it always seemed like Taylor was SO much more in love with Joe than he was with her.
This doesn’t age well. It shows that Taylor was happy to gush about Joe but Joe barely spoke two words about her. He was a miserable sod I’m glad Taylor and he split up she deserves so much better.
You do NOT know how their relationship was. You don't know Joe and you never will. Stop talking about people you don't know as if you do. It's none of your business and it's super embarassing on your part. So unless you have something nice to say about the man just shut up please.
@@your_Death_1989no you can still talk about your partner while keeping private...you can praise her show how amazing she is since it not a secret relationship at all...he totally like ignore a question about her...
It aged fine. You're misusing the phrase. I'm too tired. Just look it up yourself. Just because a couple breaks up does not mean that everything they said or did or created whilst together aged poorly.
Can you think of two men more different than Joe Alwyn and Travis Kelce? If you see the clips of her performing at her Reputation concert with him in the audience you can see the glow in her face. She really loved him. And i think he did too but never was outspoken about it, typical Brit. There have been accusations of him cheating on her and if that's true he is the biggest fool on the planet. One you hook Taylor Swift you don't let her go.
I think she "set him free" (theme of songs in 1989) because she felt like her career was a burden on him. She didn't even blame him for cheating on her.
@@nuclearcatbaby1131 "And maybe it was egos swinging, maybe it was her" "I founded the club she's heard great things about" "Splintered back in winter, silent dinners, bitter, he was with her in dreams" "My husband is cheating, I wanna kill him" "And your cheating husband disappears, well, nobody asks any questions here"
It her speaking about him, but not really the other way around. It’s like he didn’t want anyone to know they were an item at the time, or afterwards if it didn’t work out, there would be no proof she was ever important to her.
Well he show up more for her, like concert, MV set and definitely for the whole quarantine because well they wrote songs together and like the other say, he's not as famous as her so make sense, it'll be bad as well if everyone just asked them both about each other and not their works (what they want to avoid I'm pretty sure) Taylor talk about him as well mostly because they talk about the song first and it brought up
There’s other clips like when someone asked him if he was engaged and he essentially (politely) said even if they were he would never tell. He’s a very private person. More often than not interviewers are given a “no-list” of topics they’re not to ask about, the ones who asked the questions either snuck it in or it was a red carpet interview where those kinda lists aren’t given out (usually filled with more sleazy interviewers who are after goss than things to do with the actual work). A lot of the clips of Taylor talking about Joe are from the same interview or her talking about Joe writing with her.
It aged fine. You're misusing the phrase. I'm too tired to explain, just look it up yourself. Just because a couple breaks up, does not mean that every single thing they said or did or created whilst together aged poorly. It's more appropriate to call it a time capsule.
this aged like milk. in hindsight, there was always something looming over their relationship. i have no trouble believing that folklore and evermore talk about struggles they’ve faced when they were together. i was never really invested in jow alwyn because the most interesting thing about him is his last name sounding kind of tolkien esque but oh boy does he sound pretentious in some of these clips.
@@13.gorgeous i literally do not care about him, i‘m not on his socials harassing him or anything, i‘m keeping anything i have to say about him, which isn’t much, far away from him, don’t worry
you guys need to understand Taylor loved Joe, Joe loved Taylor. JUST LISTEN TO REP AND LOVER. you guys switch sides so fast. but tay has moved on so move on
Ever notice her body language around Joe.. She is embarrassed to be with him.. She doesn't trust him.. And they don't communicate intimately or even much communication at all.. She wouldn't marry that dude for anything.. I am not even sure that deep down she even likes him.. She hasn't given an interview saying that they are an item since way before folklore.. All the photos they show of them are old as dinosaurs.. They are never together photos but always split photos.. What it is is he uses thier past songwriting together as a trampoline for his career that she really has nothing to do with, except she is Angelic enough to try and help him out with it. But he over does it and takes advantage of it. I would bet my life he isn't even heterosexual... He is basically trying to set her up for a breach of promise suit with all these stupid articles on the internet.. Because it's him doing it.. Not her.. Gay men who pretend to be heterosexual will do stuff like that to women, because they really dislike women
She purposely chooses to keep her relationship private because her relationships in the past have been plastered and ruined by the media and she doesn’t want that. You’re reaching with this. Deeply reaching. I’m not a huge Taylor fan so I don’t know enough details of them. But to me it seems that they are just heavily private with their romantic life,
@@KDawnn absolute nonsense ...i would pay you 25 million dollars if she married him... that is how sure i am she is not his girl and will never be his girl
i would kill to hear exile with taylor and joe
same i thought about it last night 😭😭
YES!
folklore (joe’s version)
I believe Joe has musical genius in his family bloodline. so cool that these 2 can collaborate and make bangers together
im pretty sure his great-grandfather is actually a classic musician
@@sofiafinne344 yeah turns out he was named william alwyn. the reason of william in william bowery. and bowery is the bowery hotel as we know. ✨
Maybe Taylor can pick “Marjorie Bowery” as her pen name.
Something about tall blond hair blue eyed people and musical talent
joe's speaking voice is the most attractive voice i've ever heard
“and i’m highly suspicious that everyone who sees you wants you”
💯
I saw the dimples first and then I heard his accent…
He built a fire just to keep me warm.....😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
imagine his singing voice thooo
The way their eyes shine when they talk about is so precious,protect them at all costs 💖
We failed 😭😭
They failed
when Taylor wrote about a different Joe in 2010 "your name forever the name on my lips" she didn't realise how true this would be
omg
I think about this all the time
that's the law of attraction for you!
You can tell from those interviews that he's so down to earth guy...
Are they still together?
@@andreabianca1028 yep ofc
@@cantspellARMYwithoutRMi’m so glad🥰
@@andreabianca1028 What do u think about the songs they wrote together?
@@andreabianca1028 jinxed it fml
After a Jake breaks your heart remember there is a Joe waiting for you
I needed to hear that 🥺
It's a good point but Joe Jonas or Joe Alwyn 🤣 (no hate I love them all)
I got a John and a Jake in a row, thanks for giving me hope
@@Cheryll1 Clarification is needed 😂
Can’t forget about harry styles
I would say Joe really changed Taylor’s genre by introducing his musical taste and perspective into her vision. If it’s not him, folklore and evermore won’t happen in that way. Like Midnights is back to her pop styles.
I love that I love Folklore and Evermore so glad we got them. Thank you Joe
The era, the style which most probably never comes back again.
dude what? she was inspired by aaron dessner and the national, not joe in folklore and evermore. joe didn’t introduce them, he didn’t know aaron until taylor.
i really want to know if Joe was a Swiftie or just casual listener of Taylor before they started dating.
IKR? imagine being him and getting Taylor Swift oh my lord
The lyrics from King of My Heart "out on the roof with the school girl crush, drinking bear with the plastic cups" makes me believe Joe is a swiftie.
@@anisanurraudah8383 she’s comparing how she’s feeling to how it feels when you’re in love for the first time as a teen
i don't think so , taylor mentioned in reputation sessions that joe mother knew about "Taylor Swift" but she didn't recognize her when they first met so i guess he just only knew about her
Would give my left kidney to hear Taylor and Joe sing champagne problems….
Then give
i would sell my SOUL to hear joe singing exile
The fact that Joe was her first boyfriend since her start of the career and her latest and final boyfriend is Joe. Wow!!
they dated before when she was young?? I didn't know that
@@mars2616 she was referring to Joe Jonas
her first was drew
@@manasvi4404 no that was her crush her first that we know of is “Lucas Till”
@@savpress3677 she had a highschool bf names drew tho
Even tho I'm dying to hear Exile ft William, I'm so glad that it doesn't exist on public, I'm so glad they keep their relationship so private like that. They're so good to each other and I don't want them to have problems thanks to media and social media. I don't want them to have unnecessary hate.
I would like hear Joe version of Betty
Taylor saying joe and her love sad songs, and her writing some of her saddest songs whilst with him says everything about him and their relationship.
In her song so long london she says "how much sad did you think i had in me? How much tragedy?" This guy is super depressed, and met taylor at her lowest point so they probably bonded over their sadness, but taylor was just in a slump and was ready to get out of it, whereas joe seems to like wallowing in sadness.
I believe they are soulmates, they seem so connected on astronomical levels and its a beautiful thing to see Taylor finally be so happy without any conditions.
Rip
Ouch 😢
This didn’t age well. Plus I think Joe is too stiff he’s like a robot
@@MrHappy3feet You're commenting everywhere just like me so I'm gonna comment on your comments.
@@MrHappy3feet lol ya it definitely didn’t
The way Joe was shaking and playing with his palms when his co-stars were asked abt Taylor🥰 cute couple
This is so cute because we don't have any interview or parties details all we have are these utterly gorgeous songs 🤌
Interestingly Taylor speaks at length and Joe discloses very little. I think that reflects their individual attitude towards privacy. Perhaps that played into their recent break up. I have been struck by how different her new partner is in comparison to Joe. Give me Joe every time. He’s a great actor. Check out Conversations with Friends. Great series.
Even in here you can see that Taylor used to talk a lot about him, with such an enthusiastic vibe..compared to him being so brief and not excited when interviewers asked about her
When has Joe ever been exited In an interview
Joe is an introverted, private, quiet, chill man, Taylor is a whole diferent person, she is used to the fame, he doesnt. So thats it
@@luciaecheverria677still, I feel like it wouldn't hurt if he mentioned her name at least once
I about had an emotional break down watching this after TTPD!!! They just seemed to belong together😭🤍😭
when she says "he's always done that" (as in written songs but just for fun) a 1:58... when will be get william bowery from the vault songs?
Now that they’re broken up,,, i realised that in this video joe never really said anything about taylor.
watching it now and seeing the same thing 😮💨
she talked about him so much, with so much joy, and the biggest smile on her face everytime. joe avoided the questions with the most basic answer possible “yeah guess so”
I think Joe was better about keeping it private (like they BOTH DECIDED to do) and Taylor just got super carried away. which is fine but y'all need to stop comparing them.
@@kate5677He protected their love from media hunters. I have great respect for people who draw a line to separate their professional and personal lives. Love isn't meant for show off.
Thats what i was thinking
Romeo take me somewhere we can be alone....
Maybe you should change the title to "Taylor Swift talking about Joe Alwyn" because I don't think he ever did. He has never mentioned Taylor's name once.
This!
Here after the break up 😥
joe literally said "who knows" when asked if he and taylor can act together while calvin harris hated the idea of making music together with taylor when they were still together
Ouch 😂
Whos here after the breakup?
So basically this is Taylor speaking about Joe, he's had nothing - great- to say about her in public. Yes I understand wanting to keep your relationship private but he has said NOTHING.
is joe talking about taylor in the room with us
Cute ❤️❤️
More like Taylor talking about Joe for 9 minutes...
Exactly.
Yes because Joe didn't speak much out in public
The title is wrong. This is just Taylor talking about Joe for 9 minutes. I'm glad now she has someone who gives back what she gives.
You do NOT know how their relationship was. You don't know Joe and you never will. Stop talking about people you don't know as if you do. It's none of your business and it's super embarassing on your part. So unless you have something nice to say about the man just shut up please.
I agree Joe was kindda weird and shut down, I hope he also finds someone to be happy with like Taylor and Travis
@@madhushyas525 Don't know what you mean but I don't think it's fair to talk about something you know absolutely nothing about
@@MrHappy3feet "I pictured you with other girls in love and threw up on the street"
@@madhushyas525 You seem like you need help I'm trying to get you to understand to not put your nose where it does NOT belong. Stop trying to attack me personally I don't care what you say honey 🙃
This guy is so much different than what or who she’s dating now!
I wish to meet them together one day, it would be a dream come true ✨💕
I’ve always seen how sad and uncomfortable Taylor was during this interview. It was painful for her to talk about him… She was smiling and laughing through pain…💔
I think it's sad that he almost never spoke about her. She has been gushing about him everywhere.
Joe is just a very private person and that's totally ok. He never signed up for the level of fame he suddenly got. Imagine just like living your life and all of the sudden you fall in love with THE TAYLOR SWIFT 😱
people here after they broke up 😭
👇
2:14 bruhh his voice!!
IM HERE TO SAY STREAM RED (TAYLOR'S VERSION)
I don't believe they've broken up.😭
They didn’t trust me I had to do a lot of research she was wearing the J necklace and they were spotted in Liverpool together
@Getting Fairest I’m not sure anymore I think he may have cheated on her and now she is dating Marty but I hope that’s not the case
Geez, what happened? They are lovely. Too good for this world.
Joe and Taylor singing exile pls
After the rain comes the rainbow
plz change this video title for taylor ONLY talking about joe
The first clip is so ironic after TTPD...
I am glad that she had a "soulmate" relationship for her to value that we don t need to have the same taste or the same inclinations to bond. U know. I had a bf a long time ago that i was in love at first sight (nowadays that seems incomprehensible.) And we clicked imediately over topics of conversations and we had talk for hours and he left me like very very painfully and abruptly bur he was really planning a long time before. Cancelled all the plans with me to make his own plans. But ok it was a tough recovery. I ve dated a lot after that and I found my husband and aince the beginning, when I fell for him was a completely different story. The other one was like a passion but like irrational. Although it s nice to experience something like that once or twice in life it s not sustainable longterm wise. As soon as I fell for my husband I had a feeling of HOME. and we are completely different and it s ok. We don t have the same taste but at home it's good and funny and new even after 16 years and two teen kids. Kkkkk and it is safe and calm at the same time. It s just nice to be next to him everyday
That was my love goal. ❤❤
Um ok
Love this
Taylor watches this videos so she write her latest Album
the fact that taylors first and last bf are both joe- yall im starting to think she might have a type-
taylor loves a guy with a j name 😭
@@holysickdivinenights starts with j and ends with oe 🤓🤓🤓
well.
Here after their breakup 💔
im so sad rn
I’m not over them…
Hah, called it from the start! I always knew Joe Alwyn seemed too 'perfect nice guy' for Taylor - and it's like his real personality never shone through.
And it always seemed like Taylor was SO much more in love with Joe than he was with her.
What did you call from the start. Your comment makes NO sense 😂
LOML💔
I've been waiting
This hurts... (after TTPD)
There is a lot of Taylor complimenting and be proud of Joe not so much the other direction. i know the English are reticent but not a word?
I’m English. He’s obviously hyper conscious of respecting their privacy.
I MISS TOE
I guess you mean i miss Joe and me too 😢
Sorry I get it now i miss Jaylor too 😢
'turn the camera aroundd'
just shut up
LOL Mostly Taylor talking about Joe. He's giving nothing.
to whom...to you....for what???
@@ananya835 they are still pissed that he refused to supply them with cute relationship content to consume...
This doesn’t age well. It shows that Taylor was happy to gush about Joe but Joe barely spoke two words about her. He was a miserable sod I’m glad Taylor and he split up she deserves so much better.
You do NOT know how their relationship was. You don't know Joe and you never will. Stop talking about people you don't know as if you do. It's none of your business and it's super embarassing on your part. So unless you have something nice to say about the man just shut up please.
dude THEY BOTH CHOSE FOR IT TO BE PRIVATE. when things are private ur not supposed to talk about them.
@@your_Death_1989no you can still talk about your partner while keeping private...you can praise her show how amazing she is since it not a secret relationship at all...he totally like ignore a question about her...
Give over!
they look like twins
All white ppl look alike ig 😭 but they cute
😂
this didn’t age well 😭
It aged fine. You're misusing the phrase. I'm too tired. Just look it up yourself. Just because a couple breaks up does not mean that everything they said or did or created whilst together aged poorly.
Ikr 😭
Can you think of two men more different than Joe Alwyn and Travis Kelce? If you see the clips of her performing at her Reputation concert with him in the audience you can see the glow in her face. She really loved him. And i think he did too but never was outspoken about it, typical Brit. There have been accusations of him cheating on her and if that's true he is the biggest fool on the planet. One you hook Taylor Swift you don't let her go.
I think she "set him free" (theme of songs in 1989) because she felt like her career was a burden on him. She didn't even blame him for cheating on her.
@@nuclearcatbaby1131 "And maybe it was egos swinging, maybe it was her"
"I founded the club she's heard great things about"
"Splintered back in winter, silent dinners, bitter, he was with her in dreams"
"My husband is cheating, I wanna kill him"
"And your cheating husband disappears, well, nobody asks any questions here"
I miss Dad… :((
He's not MY dad he never was!!! That dad sucked! I said what I said.
I miss dad too 😭
@@tinasdivinepowerwow ruuude pretty sure it's you who suck. Sorry... to break it... to ya
It her speaking about him, but not really the other way around. It’s like he didn’t want anyone to know they were an item at the time, or afterwards if it didn’t work out, there would be no proof she was ever important to her.
im here cause they broke up
🎶 What do you mean? 🎶
A friend of mine REJECTED Taylor Swift for a date.
Of course! And then woke up 😂😅🤣
NOO IM SO SAD NOW
Ikr this is mending and breaking my heart at the same time 😭😭
There were literally only 3 clips of him “talking” about her like why does she act so much more in love than him
He’s not as famous so he doesn’t have as many interviews
@@caracervenkaYeah but like no
Well he show up more for her, like concert, MV set and definitely for the whole quarantine because well they wrote songs together and like the other say, he's not as famous as her so make sense, it'll be bad as well if everyone just asked them both about each other and not their works (what they want to avoid I'm pretty sure) Taylor talk about him as well mostly because they talk about the song first and it brought up
There’s other clips like when someone asked him if he was engaged and he essentially (politely) said even if they were he would never tell. He’s a very private person. More often than not interviewers are given a “no-list” of topics they’re not to ask about, the ones who asked the questions either snuck it in or it was a red carpet interview where those kinda lists aren’t given out (usually filled with more sleazy interviewers who are after goss than things to do with the actual work).
A lot of the clips of Taylor talking about Joe are from the same interview or her talking about Joe writing with her.
It's just that's he's more of a private person
This didn’t age well
It aged fine. You're misusing the phrase. I'm too tired to explain, just look it up yourself. Just because a couple breaks up, does not mean that every single thing they said or did or created whilst together aged poorly. It's more appropriate to call it a time capsule.
this aged like milk. in hindsight, there was always something looming over their relationship. i have no trouble believing that folklore and evermore talk about struggles they’ve faced when they were together. i was never really invested in jow alwyn because the most interesting thing about him is his last name sounding kind of tolkien esque but oh boy does he sound pretentious in some of these clips.
Leave him alone please
@@13.gorgeous i literally do not care about him, i‘m not on his socials harassing him or anything, i‘m keeping anything i have to say about him, which isn’t much, far away from him, don’t worry
@@wa11ie Good people are rude and I feel really bad tbh
The 200th like is me
did not age well TT
Taylor messed up so bad. She doesn’t talk about the new one like that
Taylor wrote and sings: “No one‘s ever had me, not like you“ for Travis
This is unfortunate
This is an ouch 😢
Seems jow is not musically inclined
?
jow
All that creep ever did was live off of Taylor's change
Nope
He wrote songs with her. Deserve if he got $
The guy had money before Taylor. Oh and you all forget Reputation too soon.
you guys need to understand Taylor loved Joe, Joe loved Taylor. JUST LISTEN TO REP AND LOVER. you guys switch sides so fast. but tay has moved on so move on
Maybe Taylor should erase all the other songs she and Joe wrote 😂 and make Travis rewrite them all with her
To hurt you
Ever notice her body language around Joe.. She is embarrassed to be with him.. She doesn't trust him.. And they don't communicate intimately or even much communication at all.. She wouldn't marry that dude for anything.. I am not even sure that deep down she even likes him.. She hasn't given an interview saying that they are an item since way before folklore.. All the photos they show of them are old as dinosaurs.. They are never together photos but always split photos.. What it is is he uses thier past songwriting together as a trampoline for his career that she really has nothing to do with, except she is Angelic enough to try and help him out with it. But he over does it and takes advantage of it. I would bet my life he isn't even heterosexual... He is basically trying to set her up for a breach of promise suit with all these stupid articles on the internet.. Because it's him doing it.. Not her.. Gay men who pretend to be heterosexual will do stuff like that to women, because they really dislike women
She purposely chooses to keep her relationship private because her relationships in the past have been plastered and ruined by the media and she doesn’t want that. You’re reaching with this. Deeply reaching. I’m not a huge Taylor fan so I don’t know enough details of them. But to me it seems that they are just heavily private with their romantic life,
@@KDawnn absolute nonsense ...i would pay you 25 million dollars if she married him... that is how sure i am she is not his girl and will never be his girl
don't you have some dirty laundry you need to wash? go and do something else please, instead of typing some bs of a couple you don't know
You're so high bro
@@raquelop13 You are the only one who does not know
After the rain comes the rainbow