Cheap Vs Expensive Watercolor (Pigment Wars!)

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  • @IntheStudiowithMicheleWebber
    @IntheStudiowithMicheleWebber  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Do let me know about your own experiences with different paints! And if you would like more tips for using white paint in a way that won't ruin your watercolors, try this th-cam.com/video/iW1RJcCgwbg/w-d-xo.html

    • @FrankCurtiss
      @FrankCurtiss 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It seems that the giant sets are marketed to newbs. This locks them into lower quality and kneecaps their mixing skills before they even get started. It would be a service to many if you were to CLEARLY demonstrate how a small high quality mixed primary set is superior in every way to a mega-sized set. The title could be "big sets debunked" or something catchier. My personal experience includes every possible mistake. I have discarded and donated some of the more obnoxious and obvious junk but still have a mix of qualities. It would have been much better in retrospect to commit to good watercolor supplies.

  • @johnharrison5703
    @johnharrison5703 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    My mother used to run a watercolour painting class in the 1990's early 2000's, she would regularly get students arrive with "The Works" or similar paint. She always said how weak and "Greasy" they were and she would let them try her own paints. She found that many would try and use them and get dishearten with the results. Their paper was also not too good. They do seem to have improved since those days. I should have listened to my Mom when she was alive, so now I've retired and decided to have a go, I have to use your wonderful videos.

    • @IntheStudiowithMicheleWebber
      @IntheStudiowithMicheleWebber  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Their watercolour paper used to find it's way into my classes too, falls apart when water touches it 😅 I'm sure your mum would be pleased you're painting ❤️

  • @jackiegagne2625
    @jackiegagne2625 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    May I suggest a comparison between mid-priced versus the more expensive paints? Thank you.

  • @jeanlanz2344
    @jeanlanz2344 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Outstanding color and quality analysis and demonstration. Thank you. God bless you.

  • @1mulekicker
    @1mulekicker 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a new to color smearing, being a slightly color challenged person, I really appreciate these types of tutorials.

  • @SHANGRILAAA333
    @SHANGRILAAA333 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you Michelle.
    Taking a watercolor flower painting course tomorrow. Your mixing tips were very helpful.
    Have a great day !!!

  • @Mail2elr
    @Mail2elr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A comparison between a couple of different cheaper paints would be interesting, just to see which are closest to the real thing.

  • @aliciashackley5830
    @aliciashackley5830 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is such a good video for beginners to see the difference between good quality vs drugstore type watercolor paint sets. Using such extremely poor quality paints only will result in consternation and disappointment. Thx as always Michele. 🥰💕🐶💕🥰

  • @carolmikolj5134
    @carolmikolj5134 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was so useful. I am just getting good enough at painting to want to buy professional quality (as opposed to student grade) paints and this comparison was extremely helpful. For the first time I am actually thinking about pigment numbers and realizing how important they are. Thanks so much for this video.

  • @engleharddinglefester4285
    @engleharddinglefester4285 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I picked up a cheapo yellow (Phoenix) at a discount store and I kind of like it for the reason it is so transparent. Easier to control for me. The tubes don't last very long though because they are so weak. The other colors I've tried are pretty bad though. But yellow I like.

  • @cathierayes4226
    @cathierayes4226 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh! How useful to know how to compare the pigments!! I could see right away why I can't always get the color strength I look for Because watercolor is just "dabbling" for me right now, I bought really inexpensive watercolors. Art classes were soooo long ago that although I was surprised to get such uninspired results I couldn't figure out why. Now it's clear that what I have is truly only dabbling quality; when I'm ready to move onto more serious work I'll need to buy more serious paint. Thank you so much for this comparison!! I always learn so much from you. 🥰

  • @carolpursley2901
    @carolpursley2901 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Was using Cottman paints and decided to use the professional Winsor Newton. Was just going to purchase a few tubes. I couldn't believe the difference. Decided to just use the Cottman until I had saved enough to get a whole set of Winsor because using both together didn't give good results.

    • @IntheStudiowithMicheleWebber
      @IntheStudiowithMicheleWebber  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Cotman are my least favourite student brand, they're disappointing compared to many others!

  • @chrislora8895
    @chrislora8895 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent video, and advice. I gave up the few cheap student paints I had when I discovered Daniel Smith. I even “donate” them to my granddaughter on the occasional times I discover I have two or three colors that are almost the same. I’d rather have ONLY DS rose madder permanent, phthalo blue green shade and lemon yellow for the rest of my life instead of dozens of inferior paints. Thank you, again, for providing helpful, clear watercolor advice.

  • @marie8642
    @marie8642 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Loved when you shared glimpses of your own art under your titles. Thank you for this video. It is a good review of colour mixing, helpful reminders for those less experienced like me.

  • @ArtandDiamondsWithEskies
    @ArtandDiamondsWithEskies 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Alizarin crimson is actually extremely vital when you are doing Arizona sunsets and sunrises you see this color all the time in the sunsets in Sedona Arizona

  • @SusanRitchie
    @SusanRitchie 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm a beginner and that was really helpful, thank you! 😊

  • @EkaterinaKokurina
    @EkaterinaKokurina 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A useful video for beginers. Lemon Yellow is most likely PY3, Hansa Yellow, which is very cheap and can be greenish, not a bad pigment, very transparent. Both blues are Phtalos, it's obvious. My only correction - Ultramarine Blue is not an expensive pigment, it's one of the cheapest. Most expensive pigments are Cobalts and Cadmiums. The cheapest are Iron Oxides, or Earths - like Ochre, Sienna, Umbra and so on. Ultramarine costs a bit more, but still on the cheaper side.
    Also, beware of Reds, Pinks and Oranges in cheap paints, they tend to fade quite badly. I strongly recommend everyone to learn about the basic pigments, it' makes you so much better in mixing.

  • @davidwendell6471
    @davidwendell6471 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for your videos!
    I have found that the best Artist quality paint for the cost is Lukas Aquarelle 1862 Artist Watercolors

  • @ralphherrick596
    @ralphherrick596 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    When can we sample the bread? 🤔

    • @IntheStudiowithMicheleWebber
      @IntheStudiowithMicheleWebber  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's Italian herb bread, but you may just have to imagine it ;-)

    • @jondoh587
      @jondoh587 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I heard the timer and searched my own kitchen for the rogue source of the beeping. It was a mystery until you explained. 😂​@@IntheStudiowithMicheleWebber

  • @bjgoels
    @bjgoels 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm enjoying this. I love that you add the "what can you use this color for?" Not something I struggle with personally; nevertheless, I find it helpful.

  • @marilynbeeby6435
    @marilynbeeby6435 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi Michele, this was a really interesting video, and thank you for the mixing tips. 😊 I started my journey using Crawford and Black paints purely because I didn't know any better. They were far more opaque than the ones swatched, and I quickly learned I needed better, but they got me hooked onto watercolour painting, which was no bad thing. Thank you for all you do to help us all improve 😊

  • @cousinjesse4450
    @cousinjesse4450 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The comparison of colors side by side was great. I painted for over a year with student quality paint and decided to upgrade. I purchased Michele’s set of watercolor paints on Jackman’s website. These paints are outstanding smooth and strong color pigments. I live in the Mid Western United States and shipping from the UK was not an issue. If you are thinking about upgrading your paints, I highly recommend checking them out. Thank you Michele for doing this comparison.

  • @nancydavidson4899
    @nancydavidson4899 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very informative and I really enjoyed seeing some of the Jackman colours swatched out. I started with Daniel Smith colours and I haven’t regretted my choice, except for their cerulean which I really don’t like. I may replace it with the Jackman version. I haven’t bought a black. For the little bits of concentrated black I need, I use either neutral tint or indigo. Thank you Michele 🙏

    • @IntheStudiowithMicheleWebber
      @IntheStudiowithMicheleWebber  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would agree on Daniel Smith Cerulean, the Jackmans is good, I think my all time favourite is Talens Rembrandt. I also suggest trying Daniel Smith Manganese Blue Hue, it's a beautiful color, like a brighter Cerulean, having I believe some Phthalo pigments mixed in.

    • @nancydavidson4899
      @nancydavidson4899 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@IntheStudiowithMicheleWebber Thanks Michele, I’ll check them both out

  • @askialuna7717
    @askialuna7717 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What happened to me once was that I bought cheap watercolours to try out and when I opened them I noticed that most of the tubes were only 2/3 full.
    That was really a rip-off. I like to try out some from time to time for sketching that I can then give away to my nibblings, and it is important that the colours are non-toxic.

  • @joycejaycox7532
    @joycejaycox7532 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fun to watch and very informative. Thanks

  • @Melindrea
    @Melindrea 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think one of my favourite bits of advice (which may have come from you, your facebook group or another youtuber--it's been years since I heard it!) when it comes to watercolour paints are 1) Try to find paints where there is pigment information. While it's not an indicator of *superb* paints, they're at least basic! and 2) As a beginner, you don't need high end paints. Start with the student grade paints (where I am not a huge fan of Cotman, but have gotten good mileage out of White Nights) and use them until you feel that you've hit a "wall" in your skill vs the paint and 3) Instead of replacing all of your paints at once, pick up a tube (or pan) here and there as you need it, either because you're out of it or because it's a colour your prior paints don't have (I have Schminke's potter's pink, among others)

    • @IntheStudiowithMicheleWebber
      @IntheStudiowithMicheleWebber  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      White nights are indeed much better than Cotman, I recommend them to those on a budget!

  • @ESimon-th1w
    @ESimon-th1w 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks!

  • @kathleen88863
    @kathleen88863 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Michelle!

  • @50andCountingcom
    @50andCountingcom 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This comparison just made me even happier to be using professional grade paints. Overall, Daniel Smith is my favorite. I also find Holbein to be decent. I enjoyed your review and comparison. Thank you for your high quality videos! You have helped me along on my journey with watercolor painting many times.

  • @kathleenhimiona2245
    @kathleenhimiona2245 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was helpful, I only use Alizarin Crimson, what red would you suggest? Thank you.

    • @IntheStudiowithMicheleWebber
      @IntheStudiowithMicheleWebber  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The most useful colour to have is a true pink such as a quinacridone pink, or even permanent rose; this will improve your mixing of lilacs, purples and neutrals, plus it's amazing for florals. After that you might want to add a 'true' bright red such as a cadmium or scarlet lake. Finally an oxide red (sometimes called light red, venetian red or english red) can be good for things like bricks and roof tiles.

    • @kathleenhimiona2245
      @kathleenhimiona2245 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much, I enjoy your tutorials more than others, you're direct, informative and not obsequious.
      🌹🌹🌹

  • @beckytubbs
    @beckytubbs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One thing I’ve noticed with less expensive paints is that you need to use a lot more paint to get good results. So if you paint frequently, I don’t think that it’s really less expensive to buy cheaper paints.

  • @jackiegagne2625
    @jackiegagne2625 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another thought (sorry) - I am beginning to get some favourite colors (sap, paynes grey, ultramarine, permanent rose for example). Is it worth to get the more expensive versions? I do have both mid price (various brands) and Winsor Newton. I am getting better at blending. A book I am loving is Harriet de Winton's New Botanical Painting - and the recommended colors and blends. I am relatively new (6 months) at this. Do you have a Reference recommendation for colors/blends?

    • @IntheStudiowithMicheleWebber
      @IntheStudiowithMicheleWebber  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Winsor and Newton are excellent quality. If you're interested in pigments and flower painting the book Colours of Nature by Sandrine Maugy is brilliant.

  • @JLB0880
    @JLB0880 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve just realized you’re saying Jackman’s not Jackson’s 😂 I’ve just fallen in love with some of the colors on their site including your darkest green. I don’t see an affiliate link in your description, do you have one? I want you to get credit for this order I’m about to make 😊

  • @IMMA383
    @IMMA383 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, thank you so much 😊!

  • @esmed779
    @esmed779 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks that was great

  • @ChantelleArts
    @ChantelleArts 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Such a fascinating video ☺☺☺

  • @Piwonia67
    @Piwonia67 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh well, it's my quite recent experience😅 I'm a beginner in watercolor, and when I finally decided that I need to add some watercolor paints to my materials, I just went to Action store and bought a set for me.
    Lemon yellow was watery
    Medium yellow looked like greyish sand
    Scarlet looked like raspberry jelly
    Crimson red lake was a sort of weak purplish brown
    And so on, and so on
    Finally I got a set of Windsor and Newton Cotman paints, and then another one, by our local Robert Szmal. A huge difference in intensity, quality and all.
    I also bought - absolutely by chance - some metallic acrilic paints from Dealz, one tube by Daler Rowney and two by Hobby Center. The first one is really good, the other two are awful.

  • @ObsidianFrog
    @ObsidianFrog 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What l learnt from this video was never to buy ' Crawford & Black '.....

  • @ralphherrick596
    @ralphherrick596 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you.... very informative 🙂

  • @Grassless24
    @Grassless24 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

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