Acts 3: 2 And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, *Ye men of Israel* , why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk? 3 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; *whom YOU delivered up, and DENIED him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.* 14 *But YOU denied the Holy One and the Just, and *desired a MURDER* to be granted unto you; 15 *And KILLED the Prince of life,* whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses. Yep, the Sabbath keepers condemned and murdered the "Lord of the Sabbath" while desiring a murderer. You can't make these things up!
My wife and I was privileged to meet him in 1995. We heard of his heroics prior to meeting him but I was very surprised to discover how small of stature he was and how his humble opinion of himself he shown. He always gave God the glory and only considered himself as a blessed man to be given the opportunity to help others. It was unfortunate that the movie left so much out of the real story but I'm please someone was willing to tell it again.
Desmond Doss was certainly not ashamed of being an Adventist but if you think of him as having been "proud" to be an Adventist, your perception of him is very different from mine.
I was given a physical and told I wasn't good enough to serve in the army so I don't know firsthand but other people have told me that it isn't just medics who refuse to carry weapons; many medics are disrespected and some are bullied because of the perception that they aren't up to other's standards of manliness. I've been told that usually changes once a unit sees actual combat. The infantry quickly decide there isn't anybody in the united they are more dedicated to protecting that the medics. During WWII, U.S. servicemen were encouraged to think that the goal was to kill the enemy. Again, this is just my perception, but I think the current methods of training include focus on specific goals to be accomplished with a minimum of loss of life on both sides. Desmond Doss spoke a my school in the '60s. He was so shy, he didn't actually give a speech. Instead, someone had to ask him questions. The measure of a man isn't his bravado, however. P.S. I've been corresponding with an LdS gentleman from Utah. He had heard of Seventh-day Adventists but, until recently, didn't realize that the word, "adventist" is a reference to an emphasis on the second advent of Jesus. Nobody places the emphasis on the second syllable of the word, "advent", so, if you would like to appear to be educated, it would make sense to not emphasize the second syllable of the word, "adventist". The word should be pronounced as Pastor Case pronounces it.
Actually they're both correct it just depends on where you are from, or community you are around. Americans tend to stress the first syllable, but people from other places such as the West Indies tend to stress the second syllable. I have visited different Adventist churches and heard it both ways. It's just a cultural thing . 😊
I was born in 1944. I don't remember a time before my parents died (in the 1980s) that they didn't admire Desmond Doss. More recently, however, I have discovered that many Seventh-day Adventists in the United States emphatically DON'T consider themselves patriotic. Can someone direct me to studies or statistics on on the subject of what percentage of Seventh-day Adventists in the United States consider themselves patriotic?
@@xintimidate It is advisable for Christians to develop the ability to laugh at ourselves. I sometimes refer to meat analogues, for example, as “fake meat” or, when asked to reveal the ingredients, I’ve been known to answer, “cardboard”. Even with regard to interpretation of Bible prophecies, it is advisable to avoid being so stern as to give the impression that no one is a Christian who interprets - or explains - the prophecies differently than we do. My dad’s first contact with adventists was almost exactly one hundred years ago. He attended SdA evangelistic meetings for a year before anyone so much as suggested that he become a baptized member of the organization. Thirty years later, he told me he was under the impression that the Pennsylvania conference of SdA had had a policy of not baptizing anyone who had not attended SdA meetings regularly for a year. Dad attended Broadview college (an SdA college in Illinois) for a year but was not financially able to continue his education beyond that. If he had earned a college degree, I think he would have been “called” to be a pastor. I attended SdA schools for nine years before I thought I had an adequate grasp of the history of the advent movement to request baptism and voting membership in the SdA organization. I didn’t. My mother’s mother was SdA and my mother was too when I was born but, when my mother thought I was old enough to understand, she told me her religion was very different from that of her mother. Because I thought I understood what she meant, I didn’t question my mother about that statement so it is only an educated guess but I think part of what she meant was that her mothers religion was institutional. My mother’s religion was personal. My grandmother’s religion was based on what she had been taught by her SdA parents and other adventists. My mother thought of her own religious beliefs, practices and prohibitions as being based on her own personal study of the Bible. When I was a boy, my dad repeatedly advised me, “Read for yourself, study for yourself and think for yourself.” He told me he thought there was no greater danger to true spirituality than to be a follower of a religious organization. Our parents bought books about such reformers as Martin Luther and John Wesley for my siblings and me. They encouraged us to admire such reformers but not to idolize them. My parents' denominational affiliation was Seventh-day Adventist but their religion was biblical Christianity. I grew up thinking of those as two related but very different things. By the late 1950s, many adventist “evangelists” had become accustomed to conducting MUCH shorter series of meetings than my dad had attended in the ‘20s. Instead of trying to make reasonably sure people were “settled into the truth” before making them voting members of the organization, the new goal seemed to be to baptize people as soon as they could be persuaded to answer about a dozen leading questions in the affirmative. In pursuit of that goal, the evangelists had become accustomed to explaining some doctrines in such a manner that the oversimplification was actually a distortion. Whereas the nineteenth century pioneers of the advent movement had been fiercely independent in their study of the Bible, the pendulum had begun to swing back in the direction of encouraging institutional religion. It wasn’t until about 2017 that I learned from one adventist in the United States that he wasn't a patriot. When I pressed him to explain why, I learned that it was because of an oversimplification of Revelation 13:11. Instead of referring to the two-horned beast as “the second beast of Revelation 13”, he said the United States is (present tense) the beast that speaks as a dragon. That conversation was an “a-ha” moment for me. The United States was the first nation in modern times to make a distinction between civil and religious laws. In the United States, adventist patriots have been working diligently since as far back as 1888, to prevent - or at least postpone - the tragic transformation of the lamblike beast. But it is now clear that SdA who think the transformation has already occurred are not likely to do anything to try to prevent that transformation - and they may even be doing things to hasten it. Which is why I still wish to access credible information about how many SdA currently think that way. I’m quite certain I don’t want my neighbors to think that is what I believe or teach.
The SDA's are not the only sabbatarian Church (Seventh-Day observing) that believes in non-violence/ or serving in war. Both the Church of God Seventh Day and worldwide Church of God held to the same basic Doctrine. I was a member of wcg for 22 years.
Reading the books of the New Testament, we perhaps asked ourselves more than once: *"Why 2000 years we do not see those miracles that accompanied the Сhurch of Christ in the I century, as described in the New Testament?"* Why do the so-called preachers of Christ have to prove that Jesus really existed and atheists boldly deny the historicity or divine origin of Christ? Maybe because the Сhurch of Christ has not existed for 2000 years? The Сhurch does not exist in the form in which it is presented in the books of the New Testament, but there are Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant and other christian sects claiming to be the place of the Church, but they not have the only thing that distinguishes the divine from the human and is characteristic of just the Сhurch of Christ -the reinforcement of the word with signs, that is, miracles (Mark 16:15-20). Therefore, some researchers doubt the historicity of Christ, and some of them are not opposed to declaring him a an ordinary philosopher, teacher. But even if Jesus were an ordinary philosopher, his disciples would be ordinary followers of Jesus. And they would not dare to write about the miracles that not only Jesus, but also his disciples, could perform. If there were the Church in our time as described by the authors of the New Testament books, where miracles are performed, the sick are healed, where prophesied, and the dead are raised, no one would doubt the historicity of Christ. Then there would be the same controversy throughout the world as in the first century - Jesus the Son of God or the false prophet who seduces the world by miracles. As a result, we can say that the emergence and development of christian sects and atheism was the result of the fact that over the 2000 years the Сhurch of Christ did not exist. Find *"The Mystery about the Church of Christ"* video on TH-cam, which shows the real causes of Christian sects and atheism. The video reveals a prophecy about the disappearance and reappearance of the Church of Christ before the end of the world. Watching this video will bring joy to all who sincerely seek God and will interest those who are not too lazy to think freely. Click on my name to watch the video (The video is in Russian, but English subtitles are included).
I've met quite a few people who believe the church disappeared and then reappeared many centuries later. They are able to think that way about the church because they think of an organization as the church. I didn't grow up thinking that way about the nature of the church. It wasn't until fifty-odd years ago that I started affirming and teaching it but I subscribe to the doctrine that "the church" (as that phrase is used in the Bible) consists of everyone who is learning to trust the Lord - regardless of our denominational affiliation. That doesn't mean that it is "wrong" to create or maintain organizations for the purpose of emphasizing whatever aspects of the truth about the creator that we might be personally called to emphasize but it does mean that organization is a tool to make the work of the church more effective or more efficient than it would be without organization. It means that no organization of the church IS the church.
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I'm very happy to be an Adventist💙
And i wanna serve God more no matter what...:)
Amen. 💞🙏🏽🔥
Acts 3:
2 And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, *Ye men of Israel* , why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk?
3 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; *whom YOU delivered up, and DENIED him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.*
14 *But YOU denied the Holy One and the Just, and *desired a MURDER* to be granted unto you;
15 *And KILLED the Prince of life,* whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.
Yep, the Sabbath keepers condemned and murdered the "Lord of the Sabbath" while desiring a murderer. You can't make these things up!
Hacksaw ridge is a nice movie. Promoting a strong belief in Christ. Wonderful. Proud to be an Adventist. Doss stood firm in God.
This is what makes me proud as a Seventh-day Adventist
My wife and I was privileged to meet him in 1995. We heard of his heroics prior to meeting him but I was very surprised to discover how small of stature he was and how his humble opinion of himself he shown. He always gave God the glory and only considered himself as a blessed man to be given the opportunity to help others. It was unfortunate that the movie left so much out of the real story but I'm please someone was willing to tell it again.
Indeed shows His power to those who believe in Him. Happy being a Seventh-Day Adventist
I’m so blessed to be a Adventist believer ♥️🙏🏿🙏🏿
Heroes come in many shapes. What an amazing man
Im a proud Adventist
where are u?
Desmond Doss was certainly not ashamed of being an Adventist but if you think of him as having been "proud" to be an Adventist, your perception of him is very different from mine.
God is faithful 🙏
I was given a physical and told I wasn't good enough to serve in the army so I don't know firsthand but other people have told me that it isn't just medics who refuse to carry weapons; many medics are disrespected and some are bullied because of the perception that they aren't up to other's standards of manliness. I've been told that usually changes once a unit sees actual combat. The infantry quickly decide there isn't anybody in the united they are more dedicated to protecting that the medics.
During WWII, U.S. servicemen were encouraged to think that the goal was to kill the enemy. Again, this is just my perception, but I think the current methods of training include focus on specific goals to be accomplished with a minimum of loss of life on both sides.
Desmond Doss spoke a my school in the '60s. He was so shy, he didn't actually give a speech. Instead, someone had to ask him questions. The measure of a man isn't his bravado, however.
P.S. I've been corresponding with an LdS gentleman from Utah. He had heard of Seventh-day Adventists but, until recently, didn't realize that the word, "adventist" is a reference to an emphasis on the second advent of Jesus.
Nobody places the emphasis on the second syllable of the word, "advent", so, if you would like to appear to be educated, it would make sense to not emphasize the second syllable of the word, "adventist". The word should be pronounced as Pastor Case pronounces it.
Roger Metzger , that isn't true. All of our medics were well thought of and respected. I don't know where you get that stupid crap !
Actually they're both correct it just depends on where you are from, or community you are around. Americans tend to stress the first syllable, but people from other places such as the West Indies tend to stress the second syllable. I have visited different Adventist churches and heard it both ways. It's just a cultural thing . 😊
@@blackynk research! Nice job!
@@outgoingblur Thanks!
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I was born in 1944. I don't remember a time before my parents died (in the 1980s) that they didn't admire Desmond Doss. More recently, however, I have discovered that many Seventh-day Adventists in the United States emphatically DON'T consider themselves patriotic. Can someone direct me to studies or statistics on on the subject of what percentage of Seventh-day Adventists in the United States consider themselves patriotic?
Not actually a patriotic thing but its a choice. So many ways to serve our God. And i believe each one of us has a purpose. Like brother desmond doss
Well we believe that the 2nd beast in Revelation 13 is the United States lol
@@xintimidate It is advisable for Christians to develop the ability to laugh at ourselves. I sometimes refer to meat analogues, for example, as “fake meat” or, when asked to reveal the ingredients, I’ve been known to answer, “cardboard”.
Even with regard to interpretation of Bible prophecies, it is advisable to avoid being so stern as to give the impression that no one is a Christian who interprets - or explains - the prophecies differently than we do.
My dad’s first contact with adventists was almost exactly one hundred years ago. He attended SdA evangelistic meetings for a year before anyone so much as suggested that he become a baptized member of the organization. Thirty years later, he told me he was under the impression that the Pennsylvania conference of SdA had had a policy of not baptizing anyone who had not attended SdA meetings regularly for a year.
Dad attended Broadview college (an SdA college in Illinois) for a year but was not financially able to continue his education beyond that. If he had earned a college degree, I think he would have been “called” to be a pastor.
I attended SdA schools for nine years before I thought I had an adequate grasp of the history of the advent movement to request baptism and voting membership in the SdA organization.
I didn’t.
My mother’s mother was SdA and my mother was too when I was born but, when my mother thought I was old enough to understand, she told me her religion was very different from that of her mother. Because I thought I understood what she meant, I didn’t question my mother about that statement so it is only an educated guess but I think part of what she meant was that her mothers religion was institutional. My mother’s religion was personal. My grandmother’s religion was based on what she had been taught by her SdA parents and other adventists. My mother thought of her own religious beliefs, practices and prohibitions as being based on her own personal study of the Bible.
When I was a boy, my dad repeatedly advised me, “Read for yourself, study for yourself and think for yourself.” He told me he thought there was no greater danger to true spirituality than to be a follower of a religious organization.
Our parents bought books about such reformers as Martin Luther and John Wesley for my siblings and me. They encouraged us to admire such reformers but not to idolize them.
My parents' denominational affiliation was Seventh-day Adventist but their religion was biblical Christianity. I grew up thinking of those as two related but very different things.
By the late 1950s, many adventist “evangelists” had become accustomed to conducting MUCH shorter series of meetings than my dad had attended in the ‘20s. Instead of trying to make reasonably sure people were “settled into the truth” before making them voting members of the organization, the new goal seemed to be to baptize people as soon as they could be persuaded to answer about a dozen leading questions in the affirmative. In pursuit of that goal, the evangelists had become accustomed to explaining some doctrines in such a manner that the oversimplification was actually a distortion. Whereas the nineteenth century pioneers of the advent movement had been fiercely independent in their study of the Bible, the pendulum had begun to swing back in the direction of encouraging institutional religion.
It wasn’t until about 2017 that I learned from one adventist in the United States that he wasn't a patriot. When I pressed him to explain why, I learned that it was because of an oversimplification of Revelation 13:11. Instead of referring to the two-horned beast as “the second beast of Revelation 13”, he said the United States is (present tense) the beast that speaks as a dragon. That conversation was an “a-ha” moment for me.
The United States was the first nation in modern times to make a distinction between civil and religious laws. In the United States, adventist patriots have been working diligently since as far back as 1888, to prevent - or at least postpone - the tragic transformation of the lamblike beast. But it is now clear that SdA who think the transformation has already occurred are not likely to do anything to try to prevent that transformation - and they may even be doing things to hasten it.
Which is why I still wish to access credible information about how many SdA currently think that way. I’m quite certain I don’t want my neighbors to think that is what I believe or teach.
The SDA's are not the only sabbatarian Church (Seventh-Day observing) that believes in non-violence/ or serving in war. Both the Church of God Seventh Day and worldwide Church of God held to the same basic Doctrine. I was a member of wcg for 22 years.
Reading the books of the New Testament, we perhaps asked ourselves more than once: *"Why 2000 years we do not see those miracles that accompanied the Сhurch of Christ in the I century, as described in the New Testament?"* Why do the so-called preachers of Christ have to prove that Jesus really existed and atheists boldly deny the historicity or divine origin of Christ? Maybe because the Сhurch of Christ has not existed for 2000 years?
The Сhurch does not exist in the form in which it is presented in the books of the New Testament, but there are Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant and other christian sects claiming to be the place of the Church, but they not have the only thing that distinguishes the divine from the human and is characteristic of just the Сhurch of Christ -the reinforcement of the word with signs, that is, miracles (Mark 16:15-20). Therefore, some researchers doubt the historicity of Christ, and some of them are not opposed to declaring him a an ordinary philosopher, teacher. But even if Jesus were an ordinary philosopher, his disciples would be ordinary followers of Jesus. And they would not dare to write about the miracles that not only Jesus, but also his disciples, could perform. If there were the Church in our time as described by the authors of the New Testament books, where miracles are performed, the sick are healed, where prophesied, and the dead are raised, no one would doubt the historicity of Christ. Then there would be the same controversy throughout the world as in the first century - Jesus the Son of God or the false prophet who seduces the world by miracles. As a result, we can say that the emergence and development of christian sects and atheism was the result of the fact that over the 2000 years the Сhurch of Christ did not exist.
Find *"The Mystery about the Church of Christ"* video on TH-cam, which shows the real causes of Christian sects and atheism. The video reveals a prophecy about the disappearance and reappearance of the Church of Christ before the end of the world. Watching this video will bring joy to all who sincerely seek God and will interest those who are not too lazy to think freely. Click on my name to watch the video (The video is in Russian, but English subtitles are included).
I've met quite a few people who believe the church disappeared and then reappeared many centuries later. They are able to think that way about the church because they think of an organization as the church.
I didn't grow up thinking that way about the nature of the church. It wasn't until fifty-odd years ago that I started affirming and teaching it but I subscribe to the doctrine that "the church" (as that phrase is used in the Bible) consists of everyone who is learning to trust the Lord - regardless of our denominational affiliation.
That doesn't mean that it is "wrong" to create or maintain organizations for the purpose of emphasizing whatever aspects of the truth about the creator that we might be personally called to emphasize but it does mean that organization is a tool to make the work of the church more effective or more efficient than it would be without organization. It means that no organization of the church IS the church.
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