She's such an adorable looking Camel. Just the mere sight of her makes me smile during this video but it's very unfortunate she won't run again. What she really needed was Anthracite as both the Reading and the PRR heavily used that type to great success but then again the gradient was also a little steep for the little engine too. Strasburg has a lot on their hands so we'll need to wait patiently for her new restoration. also I was shocked to hear Dave Drui in this video!
Actually when I went there back in October I went on one of the shop tours and asked what will they do with the 1187 and the tour guide said that " we plan one day to get the #4 back to operation but we dont know just when "
Always a pleasure to hear Dave Drui's narrations. I practically grew up on Pentrex videos, especially their special steam tours. So to hear his calm yet enthusiastic voice again is like a blast straight from my childhood.
4:30 is that not just timed perfectly or what?! The fireman got tired of shoveling right when the narrator said it was difficult to fire the engine with bituminous coal
hearing Dave Drui's narration again made me think of both old and current narrations that I really like. He brings out and entertaining and wonder and dare say "magical" tone to telling the history of railroads and engines for when K&L brings out their new models.
I love the history that is told along with the video. Gets my brain *Rolling on the Rails* if ya know what I mean! I also found the whistle that the Camel Back used (As heard at 2:27 & 2:46) was a rather cute sounding.
3:03 theres something so perfect about that scene of No. 4 traveling in the night and switching onto the strasburg line as a GG1 rolls by and that shot of it's silhouette
I have an idea, if an expensive one. If the boiler is junk (which it likely will be), give the engine a higher bioler pressure and a larger tender, with some increased grate area if possible.
You should have done their Thomas, Percy and Rusty replicas. Strasburg Thomas is BEDT 15 converted, Strasburg Percy is a dummy model and Strasburg Rusty is Plymouth switcher 2.
Camelbacks are, (to me anyways)whilst not good looking, were actually good engines. You have to remember that #1187/4 wasn’t built to pull trains. She was built to switch them.
What about it? I spend hundreds of dollars and hundreds of hours making these models as my full time job. A few bucks for all the time, efforts and money I put into them shouldn't be too hard to stomach.
Duh??? You do know the RDG almost never burned anthracite in their engines right? The "Road of Anthracite" is named that because they mined and hauled it, not because they actually burned it. Anthracite burns way too slowly to be effective in a steam engine. It's more of a stove coal than anything. That's the only reason they have Wooten fireboxes, for the rare occurrence where they did actually burn anthracite. At Strasburg, 1187 struggled because it's a yard switcher, not a road engine. If she couldn't keep steam pressure up with Bituminous coal, using Anthracite would have been worse. So no, she wasn't "meant to be anthracite fired", she was "equipped for the rare occasion she had to be anthracite fired." Same goes for literally every RDG engine.
it really is sad. A happy story that tells the life of a proud and loyal little steam engine to sad end that brings a tear to the eyes of many. Even hearing the camelback's whistle felt sad to hear. it's tone almost had a romantic sound to it, like the voice of a depressed girl calling out for her long lost lover to return.
I saw 1187 in the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania (across the road from Strasburg) over a decade ago. Shame to see online what it looks like now. Hopefully the old girl gets some much needed love soon.
Wow, the Pentrex Guy... I haven't heard that voice in years... god I feel old. He does add to the Nostalgia of it! Excellent segement on little #4! One of the Strasburg's rarely regarded engines that is now getting the recognition she deserves here! :)
Probably not. The main reason for the wooten was that the railroad could save money by using culm, or waste Anthracite. The Reading was even using bituminous by the end of steam. It was a tiny switching Loco that had a very small steam chest. It still gained steam quickly, even with bituminous, but it didn't hold enough steam for sustained operations.
@Alex_OffRailsCanada Let's not forget that doing this stuff takes time and money that is probably better spent keeping the engines they have running, at least untill the time is right. Also, they do contract work on other locomotives to make money to continue doing what they do best, the best that they can. Personally, I feel it would be better for the engine to be moved across the street to be cosmetically restored. The RRM of PA has less money, but more time. If Strasburg were to handle the movement of the engine and perhaps some funding for materials and help restoring the parts that need it, it would be much sooner. But they would need the space to put it somewhere in the Museum, so this may be what happens when/if they finally build the roundhouse they've been wanting/needing.
@Alex_OffRailsCanada It wasn't a priority because Strasburg was still young. They weren't as big of an attraction as they are now. Every project is set on a priority scale based on a budget and timeframe of completion. It wasn't high priority to have another display because they wanted engines that could RUN. Lots of preservation societies have gone under because of poor project management. Strasburg has always been smart in that sense. There are lots of things people don't consider when it comes to steam preservation. It's an ancient art now, you can't just order a new part from the manufacturer. Drawings need to be made or dug up from archives to make a casting. The casting needs to be made precisely. The need equipment to make the castings. The parts made from the castings need proper tools to be assembled, and the parts on machines and tools can break too. Most tools made for projects like this are discontinued too. And most importantly there need to be people that understand all of this and now how to do all of it. It needs to be passed on to competent people so it can continue for years to come. And it all takes time and money. Get involved with a vounteer organization, you'll see what I mean! XD
Somewhat of a sad story that ends the Strasburg engines produced by K&L. Great release guys! Maybe with this video old 1187 might get some well deserved attention. Can’t wait for the next project! Also cool to give some respect to the anthracite roads. Maybe one day we’ll get to see a crusader or black diamond. I’d need more money to commission something like that lol.
Now that I’ve heard the full story of this engine, I can now (properly) say, she was one heck of a machine to have lasted that long. I hope she’s (at least) cosmetically restored. She needs to be seen by future generations so that they can learn about the golden age of steam.
so is K&L trainz not only making passenger cars but freight cars too? because he made some for PRR decapod 2-10-0 and N&W 475 also how's work going with the GTW 4-8-4 Northern?
I have a idea what if Strasberg restored her to operating condition then leased her out to other tourist lines and museums all over the east coast kinda like what’s being done with flag coal 75
Wait a moment, is that an animated FIREMAN? I don’t think that that’s been done before in Trainz. Now I’ve got to wait till payday to put some money in my PayPal account to buy this little gem.
this was quit the surprise like the 7312 i never knew about the 1187 or as it is as no.4 (as i've said before 90 475 and 89 were the only ones i knew about until i've seen your videos on the 7312 and of course now the 1187) it really is a splendid engine i like the music you added and i also really like you got dave drui from pentrex (of course they still are one of my favorite train video producers i have tried out others and a few others and the ones i have really liked have been steam train videos by James Parfrey and c vision productions just great videos they've made i've really liked)
She's such an adorable looking Camel. Just the mere sight of her makes me smile during this video but it's very unfortunate she won't run again. What she really needed was Anthracite as both the Reading and the PRR heavily used that type to great success but then again the gradient was also a little steep for the little engine too. Strasburg has a lot on their hands so we'll need to wait patiently for her new restoration. also I was shocked to hear Dave Drui in this video!
Same here she always makes me feel good
I agree 100%
#4/1187 will always be the cutest little Camelback steam engine in existence.
Actually when I went there back in October I went on one of the shop tours and asked what will they do with the 1187 and the tour guide said that " we plan one day to get the #4 back to operation but we dont know just when "
I don’t know what to say but I’ll take it
Always a pleasure to hear Dave Drui's narrations. I practically grew up on Pentrex videos, especially their special steam tours. So to hear his calm yet enthusiastic voice again is like a blast straight from my childhood.
This gives me chills, just hearing that whistle makes me happy
Yes it does railfan475
good job on this model k&l if 1187 gets restored i will put funds for it because this locomotive is unique
4:30 is that not just timed perfectly or what?! The fireman got tired of shoveling right when the narrator said it was difficult to fire the engine with bituminous coal
hearing Dave Drui's narration again made me think of both old and current narrations that I really like. He brings out and entertaining and wonder and dare say "magical" tone to telling the history of railroads and engines for when K&L brings out their new models.
Wow! Nice job! Neat seeing the fireman shoveling in the back. Good representation of the Reading.
I love the history that is told along with the video. Gets my brain *Rolling on the Rails* if ya know what I mean! I also found the whistle that the Camel Back used (As heard at 2:27 & 2:46) was a rather cute sounding.
Hey plymouth!
-Brian Nye
The mere sight of her in steam makes me smile.
@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren Same here
Amazing Promo. I liked the history on her. It taught me quite a lot about this little camelback. Great work!
Mixture of happy and sad video elements and this incredible video is what you get as an end result.
4 years later, 1187 was moved to the Age of Steam Roundhouse in Sugar Creek, Ohio and Cosmetially restored to look how she did in her builders photo.
Just love how you guys put your content release videos together!
Nice little tribute to a small engine forgotten by History
I remember going on the same 0-6-0 Thomas the Tank engine for a similar event that was mentioned 10 years ago!
*sighs*
Good times...
I remember when he visited greenfield village. Good times indeed.
This Is Great Watching RDG/SRC #1187 as Strasburg Camelback #4 🚂🚂😊😊😊 Yay ! ! ! !
She was my first camelback locomotive
The sound of that whistle makes my day!
3:03 theres something so perfect about that scene of No. 4 traveling in the night and switching onto the strasburg line as a GG1 rolls by and that shot of it's silhouette
Honestly. All of K&L's trains are worth paying for. They look nice, good to have and sound great. They aren't even expensive which is also a plus.
Also N&W 611 is coming to Strasburg, but how will it run and are there other mainlines that 611 can run?
Joseph Frye 611 can also run on Steamtown and Reading and Northern since 765 went their in 2015.
Great work
Nice, they should really bring it back to operation
I have an idea, if an expensive one. If the boiler is junk (which it likely will be), give the engine a higher bioler pressure and a larger tender, with some increased grate area if possible.
That was a beautiful story! That almost made me cry! I hope they put her back into service again. I hope to see her back. 😭😓
Very nice!
OMG that whistle is the cutest whistle I ever heard in my entire life
thomas looks like he has seen better days
This video is so powerful... I'm holding back tears right now
boy shut yo sensitive ass up
nevermind i just cried
Another awsome video!
Finally, another Reading engine!!!!!!
wait, you said they found it hard to fire the engine with bituminous coal right? isn't this engine meant to use anthracite coal?
It was designed to burn anthracite, but the Reading mostly used Bituminous coal. Like a 4 to 1 ratio of bituminous to anthracite.
I love that story! Good job on that! I mean that was beautiful!
It will make a fine addition to my collection (I love camel backs)
EdwardJSmithTitanic/ConrailFan76
No way these aren’t easy to collect XD
We got ourselves another little American steamer.
Isn't there a K4 at Strausberg as well?
Yes that's 3750 at the RR Museum of PA across the street.
I'm gonna work at strasburg
Yet another awesome locomotive. Great work. Dose the rust engine act as rolling stock
Does jointed rail have a camel back
Kevin Jackson yes, different type of loco though
What a cute little engine
Hey uh, you know the numbers on the Reading Number plate are supposed to be silver not gold right?
😄👍 wonderful
You should have done their Thomas, Percy and Rusty replicas. Strasburg Thomas is BEDT 15 converted, Strasburg Percy is a dummy model and Strasburg Rusty is Plymouth switcher 2.
Ummm. No I shouldn’t have.
Camelbacks are, (to me anyways)whilst not good looking, were actually good engines. You have to remember that #1187/4 wasn’t built to pull trains. She was built to switch them.
Love your models! Will there be a route to go along with them?
If Strasburg isn't going to restore her to operation, you think they could trade her to Steamtown for a different locomotive in their collection?
just curious, how much of this was actually shot on location?
Were did you get the route the strasburg one
Why the video time so familiar 7:22?
How did you do the locomotive mods where they look all rusted and missing pistons
nice graphycs.. nice resolution.. Its trainz new era?!
What’s the song at 0:00?
What do I need in order to get the K&L trains thing
Can somebody pls tell me what do I need in order to get the K&L trainz thing
Could try out a video about Casey Jr???
Omg love it
One year after this video was made, 1187 was sold to Age of Steam Roundhouse in Ohio.
Harry passing by Kenley
7312 is done basically
What video game is this?
Dave Drui is still alive!?
Joseph Frye idk
I'm not crying..y-your crying
Who's crying? I'm not crying
i wish strashburg 90 was freeware
interesting
#bringbackcamleback4
Andrew Scolari yes please bring her back
Yos
What happened to freeware content? Just as a question that has been puzzling me for a while
What about it? I spend hundreds of dollars and hundreds of hours making these models as my full time job. A few bucks for all the time, efforts and money I put into them shouldn't be too hard to stomach.
If I had the money I’d buy her in a heartbeat and restore her.
I have question does that Cumberland Valley railroad tender does that belong to CPR 972?
Correct
4:32 DUH she's a READING engine, from the "Road of Anthracite" ; thus, she was meant to be Anthracite-fired
Duh??? You do know the RDG almost never burned anthracite in their engines right? The "Road of Anthracite" is named that because they mined and hauled it, not because they actually burned it. Anthracite burns way too slowly to be effective in a steam engine. It's more of a stove coal than anything. That's the only reason they have Wooten fireboxes, for the rare occurrence where they did actually burn anthracite. At Strasburg, 1187 struggled because it's a yard switcher, not a road engine. If she couldn't keep steam pressure up with Bituminous coal, using Anthracite would have been worse. So no, she wasn't "meant to be anthracite fired", she was "equipped for the rare occasion she had to be anthracite fired." Same goes for literally every RDG engine.
This kinda makes me sad, she was a gallant girl. ;-;
it really is sad. A happy story that tells the life of a proud and loyal little steam engine to sad end that brings a tear to the eyes of many. Even hearing the camelback's whistle felt sad to hear. it's tone almost had a romantic sound to it, like the voice of a depressed girl calling out for her long lost lover to return.
I saw 1187 in the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania (across the road from Strasburg) over a decade ago. Shame to see online what it looks like now. Hopefully the old girl gets some much needed love soon.
Well guess what guys? ITS BEING RESTORED AS OF JULY 15’TH! :D 💖🌈🌟🎆
Fun fact: in mid 2020, she was sent to Ohio for proper restoration, there's still a chance!
Wow, the Pentrex Guy... I haven't heard that voice in years... god I feel old. He does add to the Nostalgia of it! Excellent segement on little #4! One of the Strasburg's rarely regarded engines that is now getting the recognition she deserves here! :)
but if Strasburg had used anthracite, like she was designed to use, wouldn't she have steamed better?
Makes sense
Probably not. The main reason for the wooten was that the railroad could save money by using culm, or waste Anthracite. The Reading was even using bituminous by the end of steam.
It was a tiny switching Loco that had a very small steam chest. It still gained steam quickly, even with bituminous, but it didn't hold enough steam for sustained operations.
@ 2:24 the two engines are communicating with each other lol.
That's what I usually think about when I witness two locomotives signaling each other.
that's how they "talk" xd
Hence, the railway series was born. :-)
I wish Strasburg would restore #4/#1187 to at least good cosmetic condition. Great video!
Steam Z if only
Kelley Anderson from Strasburg's Mechanical Department says: DON'T ASK WHEN! But just know that she isn't forgotten.
Let’s hope that it is sometime within the next few years.
@Alex_OffRailsCanada Let's not forget that doing this stuff takes time and money that is probably better spent keeping the engines they have running, at least untill the time is right. Also, they do contract work on other locomotives to make money to continue doing what they do best, the best that they can. Personally, I feel it would be better for the engine to be moved across the street to be cosmetically restored. The RRM of PA has less money, but more time. If Strasburg were to handle the movement of the engine and perhaps some funding for materials and help restoring the parts that need it, it would be much sooner. But they would need the space to put it somewhere in the Museum, so this may be what happens when/if they finally build the roundhouse they've been wanting/needing.
@Alex_OffRailsCanada It wasn't a priority because Strasburg was still young. They weren't as big of an attraction as they are now. Every project is set on a priority scale based on a budget and timeframe of completion. It wasn't high priority to have another display because they wanted engines that could RUN. Lots of preservation societies have gone under because of poor project management. Strasburg has always been smart in that sense. There are lots of things people don't consider when it comes to steam preservation. It's an ancient art now, you can't just order a new part from the manufacturer. Drawings need to be made or dug up from archives to make a casting. The casting needs to be made precisely. The need equipment to make the castings. The parts made from the castings need proper tools to be assembled, and the parts on machines and tools can break too. Most tools made for projects like this are discontinued too. And most importantly there need to be people that understand all of this and now how to do all of it. It needs to be passed on to competent people so it can continue for years to come. And it all takes time and money. Get involved with a vounteer organization, you'll see what I mean! XD
Somewhat of a sad story that ends the Strasburg engines produced by K&L. Great release guys! Maybe with this video old 1187 might get some well deserved attention. Can’t wait for the next project!
Also cool to give some respect to the anthracite roads. Maybe one day we’ll get to see a crusader or black diamond. I’d need more money to commission something like that lol.
I personally dislike Camelbacks but this. This is gold
Me too because it looks so awkward and weird looking.
Joseph Frye camelbacks are amazing
Camelbacks weren't really locomotives, they were labor safety violations on wheels.
@@josephfrye8750 I think that make them beautiful in the most hilarious way, they just duct taped a cab on the boiler and said, "Yep! This works!"
I admit I didn't like them when I was younger, but they have grown on me, seeing as they were once very common where I live.
2:22 two reading engines sending their hellos to each other after being separated. Priceless
Great video. It always brings back memories to hear Dave Drui's voice. Even though he isn't a railfan, I would love to meet the guy.
Dave Drui is, no doubt at all, the voice of Pentrex. The sound of his voice is rich, meaningful and enjoyable.
3:16 until N&W 611 did in August 2019 for its visit at Strasburg for 2 months
Amazing effort! Thank you so much, Steve! please keep up the good works!
*sees this in notifications* I MUST CHECK THIS OUT!!!! This Looks Amazing!! Great Job You Guys!!!
Cool to see my Thomas Loco in a K&L video! I am going to rework the old one to be more accurate very soon.
Cameron Malik Battle lying about what
@Cameron Malik Battle are you high...?
He was not lying
Don’t listen to them tomix your Strasburg Thomas is cool
Ya sureeeeeeeee
She's having a whistle battle at 2:25 with the T1. Both whistles are awesome.
Wow!!! Jointed Rail’s already has a free Reading Camelback. This is a good competitor.
Also, thanks for commissioning the P&R President's Car.
Pentrex guy yay
Now that I’ve heard the full story of this engine, I can now (properly) say, she was one heck of a machine to have lasted that long. I hope she’s (at least) cosmetically restored. She needs to be seen by future generations so that they can learn about the golden age of steam.
thomas looks like he has seen better days
What’s that music at 3:33
I still think she could be used for shunting, or, 10 car freight, at the very leats
Wonder if they'd sell her to a group that would restore her? Given a tender-full of anthracite coal, I imagine she'd be a different engine.
so is K&L trainz not only making passenger cars but freight cars too? because he made some for PRR decapod 2-10-0 and N&W 475
also how's work going with the GTW 4-8-4 Northern?
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Poor engine 😕😕
dang back at it again with the Pentrex narrator K&L Trainz I love it
also I got the CN 3254 yesterday first K&L locomotive I would say.
The Reading Ramble is a nice touch. I've got 1187's guest appearance on LP.
Ooo
I have a idea what if Strasberg restored her to operating condition then leased her out to other tourist lines and museums all over the east coast kinda like what’s being done with flag coal 75
Wait a moment, is that an animated FIREMAN? I don’t think that that’s been done before in Trainz. Now I’ve got to wait till payday to put some money in my PayPal account to buy this little gem.
Number 4 was on the strasburg railroad for 1524 days
this was quit the surprise like the 7312 i never knew about the 1187 or as it is as no.4 (as i've said before 90 475 and 89 were the only ones i knew about until i've seen your videos on the 7312 and of course now the 1187) it really is a splendid engine i like the music you added and i also really like you got dave drui from pentrex (of course they still are one of my favorite train video producers i have tried out others and a few others and the ones i have really liked have been steam train videos by James Parfrey and c vision productions just great videos they've made i've really liked)
Lol just saw 1187 sitting in yard on March 12th. Sad that they let it rust away