Yeah, perspectives are crazy in the automotive community when you look at different applications. For example: 2100RPM on an over the road commercial diesel truck is passed redline, but that's basically idle speed on a B-Series Honda engine lol.
Can you get a 171702 from a junkyard Detroit 60 and rebuild it with a 360degree thrust bearing? I was considering an S475 TO6 for a 410 ci FE Ford gasoline 93 octane in a bumpside F100, or a pair of GT45s. I like the idea of the 171702,S475 TO6 volute with the stock iron manifolds reversed and a pair of 2.25 pipes off of the manifolds to the Volute and an intercooler to feed a blow through 850 DP, with 8-9 lbs of boost with a roller cam topped out at 6200 rpm. Would a used one be possible to find? Or do you sell reconditioned ones? Thanks.
How much who does the stock unit actually support. I've seen claims of 1000 compressor map seems to not quite support that....best ice seen was wayyyyyyy outside it's efficiency range....
I'm looking as putting a turbo on my Gen 4 LS2 403 stroker I'm looking at getting an s400 but its an s498 or a s493 as im chasing 800-1000whp the thing im not sure about is the 98 comes with some options which I dont which to get 1st is a 102/91 and a 109/99 turbine wheel option and the other is turbine wheel option t6 divided 1.32 A/R or t6 decided 1.58 A/R and t6 open 1.58 A/R these I have no idea what to order I understand the difference between 75mm, 80mm, 88mm, 93mm, and the 98mm and hp rating but not the rest I can build a stout LS but I've never buggered around with turbos
Those numbers are the Size of the Turbine Wheel, and the A/R ratio of the Turbine Housing. Basically you size that to what you wanna do with the Vehicle. Makes a big difference for instance if you building an 1/8 mile Drag Racer, or a Standing Mile Type of Vehicle, The Smaller the Wheel and Housing the Better it be for the 1/8 mile stuff, And you'll want Much Larger for the Long Distance Stuff. But there's other things to consider also, such as how's the Engine Built, how big is it, the Compression, the Camshaft, and So On, and also the Vehicle, the Weight, type of Transmission. And Always remember the rule of Bigger isn't Always Better, cause then you run into Turbo Lag.
Yes and No - there are no designated diesel S400 turbos, but there are many different variations of the S400. Many auto applications use the S400 with the smaller turbine wheel, where as majority of HD diesel applications use the 96/88MM turbine when using the S400 platform.
I bought a eBay Detroit diesel 60 turbo. Listing stated 171701, but turbo that arrived has a Garrett compressor cover. Any ideas what I actually own? 02-07 year
It would be interesting to know if I can upgrade my Turbo borgwarner p/n 171701 Mod s400s061 s/n D2307 142, For the new borgwarner 171702, What would I have to buy? I have this turbo installed on a 1998 international 9400. Greetings from 🇵🇦
I'm running a dd3 60 series detroit 12.7 L. I'm a heavy hauler 50tons and upwards what turbo would you recommend, does it come with the gaskets and studs and how much
Assuming its all stock, go with a BorgWarner K3. This S475 will be laggy on the 12.7L unless you throw fuel at it. momentumworx.com/new-borg-warner-k31-172743-series-60-c12/
@@momentumworx all is stock except the ECM and the intake boost sensor. Thank you very much, as soon as I gather the rest of money definitely purchasing the k31-172743 from you guys. What about the gasket and studs
Hello. I have a 60 series 14L. I installed a 12.7 manifold and a 171702 with just 515hp. I'm having lag when I'm shifting. I was thinking to get a K31 BUT I saw a 1.15 AR housing that fit my 1702 BW. 1- DO I have enough hp to use the 1702? 2- Do you recommend the 1.15 AR housing on a 1702 for a 515hp Detroit series60 14L? Thanks in advance!!!
Swapping out for the 1.15 housing is the cheaper and quicker solution, but that small of a housing will run the risk of overspinning the turbo on a Detroit. If you overspin the turbo, you will decrease the life span of the turbo or just snap the shaft and be dead in the water. Realistically, the K31 would have a much better powerband and minimal lag on your application, but I too would be tempted to atleast try a 1.15 housing first since you already have the 171702
I put a k31 turbo on my 14l ddec 5 have it set at 525hp 1750 tq. It runs great only thing is I can’t get it to boost no more then 32 lbs is that normal?? I’m thinking of getting the 171702 since the 171702 is rated for 500 plus right? I just want to see which turbo feels better on my setup I got the pdi manifold on it. With a good tune I’m curious what the 171702 would do
@@enriquedelacruz7398did you ever get the 171702 s400 turbo i have a ddec 6 my stock motor is 515 stock i need that part number for that pdi manifold.i need that. But You really need a tune to give it that fuel if your going with a turbo that handles 500-1000 hp you need like 600hp that k31 could only handle 550hp
i was told mine was a s400/75 my part number is 177101 sn 12512-193 is there a way to decode the number. im wanting to order another one to replace my current turbo. mine does have a billet wheel.
@@momentumworx thats what i thought i think it measured on the small side a 74mm on exhaust and yeah im still on the t4 flange because my sp quick sool is a t4 and hp goal was 1250 and that about max on this turbo on a 2jz. so im pretty sure my housing got damaged from oil starvation i tried just a bearing replacment and the shaft hits in the exhuast now. do you guys sell just the shaft if its a shaft issue? or how much would it coast to send it in for a rebuild and shaft if needed.
If the housing is damaged, you will likely spend more time/money/frustration rebuilding it then its worth. Personally, I think you'll make out better in the long run just buying a new one. If you want to go that route;. I have 2 in stock. Shoot me an email and I will send over current price. Info@momentumworx.com
Running just BW on all my Trucks but detroit is laggy as shit upgraded the boost sensor and gave it a pittsburg powerbox now we r talking and making over 1000hp on my f150 with 57mm BW
I use one as my high pressure for my compounds, it matches perfectly with an S594 atmospheric
I like how in the diesel world this is a small frame turbo.
Yeah, perspectives are crazy in the automotive community when you look at different applications.
For example: 2100RPM on an over the road commercial diesel truck is passed redline, but that's basically idle speed on a B-Series Honda engine lol.
They're great turbochargers.. Borg Warner is slept on... dollar for dollar they're one of the most cost-effective and durable options anywhere 💨
Can you get a 171702 from a junkyard Detroit 60 and rebuild it with a 360degree thrust bearing? I was considering an S475 TO6 for a 410 ci FE Ford gasoline 93 octane in a bumpside F100, or a pair of GT45s. I like the idea of the 171702,S475 TO6 volute with the stock iron manifolds reversed and a pair of 2.25 pipes off of the manifolds to the Volute and an intercooler to feed a blow through 850 DP, with 8-9 lbs of boost with a roller cam topped out at 6200 rpm. Would a used one be possible to find? Or do you sell reconditioned ones? Thanks.
Yes on the bearing
How much who does the stock unit actually support. I've seen claims of 1000 compressor map seems to not quite support that....best ice seen was wayyyyyyy outside it's efficiency range....
I'm looking as putting a turbo on my Gen 4 LS2 403 stroker I'm looking at getting an s400 but its an s498 or a s493 as im chasing 800-1000whp the thing im not sure about is the 98 comes with some options which I dont which to get 1st is a 102/91 and a 109/99 turbine wheel option and the other is turbine wheel option t6 divided 1.32 A/R or t6 decided 1.58 A/R and t6 open 1.58 A/R these I have no idea what to order I understand the difference between 75mm, 80mm, 88mm, 93mm, and the 98mm and hp rating but not the rest I can build a stout LS but I've never buggered around with turbos
Those numbers are the Size of the Turbine Wheel, and the A/R ratio of the Turbine Housing. Basically you size that to what you wanna do with the Vehicle. Makes a big difference for instance if you building an 1/8 mile Drag Racer, or a Standing Mile Type of Vehicle, The Smaller the Wheel and Housing the Better it be for the 1/8 mile stuff, And you'll want Much Larger for the Long Distance Stuff. But there's other things to consider also, such as how's the Engine Built, how big is it, the Compression, the Camshaft, and So On, and also the Vehicle, the Weight, type of Transmission. And Always remember the rule of Bigger isn't Always Better, cause then you run into Turbo Lag.
Is there any difference from a S400 for diesel applications vs the auto race stuff? Thanks
Yes and No - there are no designated diesel S400 turbos, but there are many different variations of the S400. Many auto applications use the S400 with the smaller turbine wheel, where as majority of HD diesel applications use the 96/88MM turbine when using the S400 platform.
I bought a eBay Detroit diesel 60 turbo. Listing stated 171701, but turbo that arrived has a Garrett compressor cover. Any ideas what I actually own? 02-07 year
What do you have
ecommend for a 1693 with aftercooler?
I get them all day long
What’s the most you’ll pay for a used 171702. I’ve found a few.
It would be interesting to know if I can upgrade my Turbo borgwarner p/n 171701 Mod s400s061 s/n D2307 142, For the new borgwarner 171702, What would I have to buy? I have this turbo installed on a 1998 international 9400. Greetings from 🇵🇦
it's just a straight swap, plug the waste gate line
I'm running a dd3 60 series detroit 12.7 L. I'm a heavy hauler 50tons and upwards what turbo would you recommend, does it come with the gaskets and studs and how much
Assuming its all stock, go with a BorgWarner K3. This S475 will be laggy on the 12.7L unless you throw fuel at it. momentumworx.com/new-borg-warner-k31-172743-series-60-c12/
@@momentumworx all is stock except the ECM and the intake boost sensor. Thank you very much, as soon as I gather the rest of money definitely purchasing the k31-172743 from you guys. What about the gasket and studs
Is this turbo better than a bullseye turbo for a 2007 isx15
Hello. I have a 60 series 14L. I installed a 12.7 manifold and a 171702 with just 515hp. I'm having lag when I'm shifting. I was thinking to get a K31 BUT I saw a 1.15 AR housing that fit my 1702 BW. 1- DO I have enough hp to use the 1702? 2- Do you recommend the 1.15 AR housing on a 1702 for a 515hp Detroit series60 14L? Thanks in advance!!!
Swapping out for the 1.15 housing is the cheaper and quicker solution, but that small of a housing will run the risk of overspinning the turbo on a Detroit. If you overspin the turbo, you will decrease the life span of the turbo or just snap the shaft and be dead in the water. Realistically, the K31 would have a much better powerband and minimal lag on your application, but I too would be tempted to atleast try a 1.15 housing first since you already have the 171702
Tuning is wrong and what's causing the lag you're experiencing
@@kimberlyking6229how u can tell if the tuning is wrong?
I put a k31 turbo on my 14l ddec 5 have it set at 525hp 1750 tq. It runs great only thing is I can’t get it to boost no more then 32 lbs is that normal?? I’m thinking of getting the 171702 since the 171702 is rated for 500 plus right? I just want to see which turbo feels better on my setup I got the pdi manifold on it. With a good tune I’m curious what the 171702 would do
@@enriquedelacruz7398did you ever get the 171702 s400 turbo i have a ddec 6 my stock motor is 515 stock i need that part number for that pdi manifold.i need that. But You really need a tune to give it that fuel if your going with a turbo that handles 500-1000 hp you need like 600hp that k31 could only handle 550hp
i was told mine was a s400/75 my part number is 177101 sn 12512-193 is there a way to decode the number. im wanting to order another one to replace my current turbo. mine does have a billet wheel.
You have an S475 as well, just with a smaller turbine wheel, and smaller T4 exhaust housing.
@@momentumworx thats what i thought i think it measured on the small side a 74mm on exhaust and yeah im still on the t4 flange because my sp quick sool is a t4 and hp goal was 1250 and that about max on this turbo on a 2jz. so im pretty sure my housing got damaged from oil starvation i tried just a bearing replacment and the shaft hits in the exhuast now. do you guys sell just the shaft if its a shaft issue? or how much would it coast to send it in for a rebuild and shaft if needed.
If the housing is damaged, you will likely spend more time/money/frustration rebuilding it then its worth. Personally, I think you'll make out better in the long run just buying a new one. If you want to go that route;. I have 2 in stock. Shoot me an email and I will send over current price. Info@momentumworx.com
My previous turbi on my 12.7 had wastegate.
What do i do with wastgate line when i install this turbo
plug it
Running just BW on all my Trucks but detroit is laggy as shit upgraded the boost sensor and gave it a pittsburg powerbox now we r talking and making over 1000hp on my f150 with 57mm BW
Small frame? 😂😂😂😂 That thing is huge
Borg Warner out of stock
Buy it right here, in stock.
momentumworx.com/new-borg-warner-sx400-171702-series-60/