Dungeons and Dragons Lore: Dagon

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  • Prince of the Depths, Dagon, a demon lord of the 89th layer of the abyss in the dungeons and dragons roleplaying game, inspired by HP Lovecraft's horror story, his lore is mostly contained to the aquatic history of the world of Toril, but his influence has always been wide-ranging and at times, pivotal to the underwater realms.
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  • @joshuazane3210
    @joshuazane3210 6 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Honestly, if you're dead set on working with or serving a demon lord, Dagon seems like one of the better options. While he certainly has an agenda, he at least is less inclined to capricious bouts of violence against his minions than most demons.

    • @KyleJordanGaming
      @KyleJordanGaming 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      But if you’re *undead* set on serving a demon lord, go with Orcus.

    • @samfish2550
      @samfish2550 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@KyleJordanGamingI mean I always saw that as a more tense relationship. The aspects of undeath that Orcus values are all about the stagnation and degradation.
      Litches and similar intelligent undead are just more useful than living servants in reaching the goal of spreading his undead curse across all the realms. They aren't the ideal, they are an unavoidable imperfection.

  • @benthomason3307
    @benthomason3307 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    fun fact: the actual historical dagon was originally thought to have been a fish god due to similarities between his name and an old hebrew world for fish, but that is now thought to have been a linguistic coincidence, since we now have evidence that he was actually an agricultural deity.

    • @jamestitus472
      @jamestitus472 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've never been satisfied with that. I don't see why the Philistines couldn't have an agricultural god that was also a fish. They were a coastal society, and there's similar precedent in Egypt with Sobek, a crocodile, as a god of fertility and crops.

  • @tatsusama3192
    @tatsusama3192 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Dagon to the first animal that left the sea: "..... OH, What?! The sea isn't good enough for you?!?!"

  • @JoseMolina-ij3xx
    @JoseMolina-ij3xx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I believe that Bilbdoolpoolp, is actually D&D's equivalent of Lovecraft's Hydra. Hydra is the mother goddess of the Deep Ones, which Kuo Toa are based on. The relationship between Hydra and Dagon is that of ancient parents of the aquatic depths with Dagon being the father and Hydra being the mother. Usually worshipping one or the other deity, results in worshipping of both deities in the Lovecraft universe. I would not be surprised that Dagon and Bilbdoopoolp share a similar bond in the D&D universe.

  • @benthomason3307
    @benthomason3307 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    _Captain Dagon, He's our Hero!_
    _Gonna take pollution down to zero!_

  • @muninrob
    @muninrob 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Dagon, Tsothagua, Kua Toa (deep ones), illithid (Star spawn of kthulu), gibbering mouthers (shoggoth), who'd I miss on my D&D list of lovecraftian monsters?

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shoggoth you say? Well, I have good news for you this week :)

  • @drakeford4860
    @drakeford4860 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You know, Dagon actually seems pretty mellow by Obiryth standards.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well, the deep ocean is very chill.

    • @drakeford4860
      @drakeford4860 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      AJ Pickett
      I think that might speak more to the horror that is the other Obyrith than the chillness of the ocean.

  • @epiccthulu
    @epiccthulu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Key of Stars, reading that series, is what cemented my interest in the Far Realm. It also showed more feywild politics than I expected to see

  • @nullvoid4063
    @nullvoid4063 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "I am writing this under an appreciable mental strain, since by tonight I shall be no more. Penniless, and at the end of my supply of the drug which alone makes life endurable, I can bear the torture no longer; and shall cast myself from this garret window into the squalid street below. Do not think from my slavery to morphine that I am a weakling or a degenerate. When you have read these hastily scrawled pages you may guess, though never fully realize, why it is that I must have forgetfulness or death."
    That is what any encounter with Dagon should end in.
    great video AJ, Keep it up!

  • @RobCrowley85
    @RobCrowley85 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You know Dagon is not to be messed with when even Demogorgon respects him.

  • @sanddry738
    @sanddry738 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Interesting to see Dagon is not a “Destroy all creation because I hate it” sort. The long term planning and waiting seems to fit a lot with the Lovecraftian side of things from all I’ve heard and the Obereth. Definitely still an evil and brilliant being that you would never want to meet. Really enjoy these videos on individual beings in D&D!

    • @zacharyhawley1693
      @zacharyhawley1693 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      sanddry well he's more like. Hey this sea is nice. I like this vast quantity of fluid. In fact I like this vast quantity of fluid so much I want the beings who spurned it to prove they deserve to come back to it.

  • @grimeto7323
    @grimeto7323 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've always found ancient evils that are incomprehensible to the mortal mind a lot more interesting than any other type of evil.

  • @rickeymariu1
    @rickeymariu1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    DDAAGGOONNN ALL HAIL THE LORD OF THE DEPTHS! THE SPREADER OF MADDNESS AND THE PRINCE OF THE DEEP!!

  • @codychavez9839
    @codychavez9839 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    AJ Pickett have you considered doing an episode on some of the many weapon and item materials and there effects? Such as Mithral, adamantine, cold iron, astral driftwood, dragon hide, etc.

    • @runcdunk802
      @runcdunk802 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Cody Chavez oh my Gods, PLEASE YES!

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Good idea Cody, thanks :)

  • @thevoidcritter
    @thevoidcritter 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    We recently had to fight an aspect of this guy that was summoned by a bullywug priest. Except it was a really shitty aspect that statistically was apparently just a reskinned froghemoth, but look, the priest was doing his best.

    • @digunder14
      @digunder14 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      eh, can't blame the poor guy, the bullywug are degenerating as a people over time, much like their evil frog god, how us barely holding onto existence do to all their prayers and constantly sleeping rather than doing anything

  • @mikifauns
    @mikifauns 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Dagon really needs some better recruiting practices. Insanity doesn't entice people into an underwater cathedral. Just hand out lanyards, and everyone will be back into the sea in no time.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Free drinks voucher for the church of Dagon, also, free laundry services (no dry cleaning)

  • @sypandacat7236
    @sypandacat7236 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    You are in the city of doors
    You go to wash your face off after running from a guard maybe you color sprayed them
    Suddenly as you push your face into a nearby barrel of water you peek just for a moment as the cold grabs your skin making you exhale
    Far far away deep down you see a sunken city on a throne you swear sits a massive squid or some unknown horror it stares back at you as this happens you feel the panic of drowning the burning in your lungs and a hand pull you out a large minotuar pissed off you just dunked your head in his salt water he was saving to make pickles begins to yell at you but stops as you shake and cry uncontrollably be careful where you go in the city of doors be careful which puddle you step in

  • @florenmage
    @florenmage 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Lovecraft created some truly amazing monsters in his stories.Great video.

    • @biblebot3947
      @biblebot3947 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dragon wasn’t originally from lovecraft

  • @faviankennedy7171
    @faviankennedy7171 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Someone should commission you to write a movie script for the lords of ruin. Ten part series if it's a hit.

  • @kordelshorgar122
    @kordelshorgar122 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    my favorite demon lord :) thanks AJ

  • @samvimes5124
    @samvimes5124 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Track now playing: Go Into The Water - Dethklok

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      great song

    • @KyleJordanGaming
      @KyleJordanGaming 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      “This one’s called ‘Murmaider’! It’s about Mermaid Murder!” - Dagon, probably

  • @MrKlotzi123
    @MrKlotzi123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Dagon actually comes from the sumeric God Dagān, who also was a God of the Sea and Weahter. Lovecraft invented alot of Gods, but Dagon was not one of them.

    • @MrKlotzi123
      @MrKlotzi123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Huginn Bodgaedir yes, it's pretty clear that Lovecraft took the Idea of Dagon from the sumeric Religion. H. P. was heavily influenced by Arabic Folktales and would probably have read about Dagon somewhere in there.

  • @SlothinAintEasy
    @SlothinAintEasy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Hard to believe anyone can live a peaceful life in d&d.
    Anyways, I don't want advertise anything but there's this little app called iLovecraft where they visually display the dagon story quite well. Thought you might be interested. Actually some of your pictures come from it if my memory is correct

    • @thomasrush2095
      @thomasrush2095 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's fine as long as you aren't the innkeeper's daughter.

    • @TarsonTalon
      @TarsonTalon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, why aren't people living behind 60 meter high walls? (Attack on Titan reference).

    • @thomasrush2095
      @thomasrush2095 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because of wizards with legions of exploding zombies and teleport spells, that's why.

    • @tylerbaum4307
      @tylerbaum4307 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thomas Rush Pretty much. If you are a commoner in D&D and someone wants to ruin your day, they can and inevitably will.

  • @gabrieladerre2862
    @gabrieladerre2862 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This is another awesome one AJ! I've always found Dagon to be of interest, more as he pertains to Lovecraft's Cthulul mythos, rather than real world mythology. He is actually a part of real world demonolgy, another old god cast to the rank of demon! Which isn't all that suprising since so many cultures saw their gods converted to either demons or saints once the monotheists came to their lands. After hearing your video, I think that his D&D portrayal is the most interesting, to me personally.

  • @SoftwareNeos
    @SoftwareNeos 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My favorite d and d monster will always be the aboleth. But shoot, the way you explain it, a dagon might be #2

    • @linguisticallyoversight8685
      @linguisticallyoversight8685 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      DeangeloIDK Dagon is not a monster he is as far removed from them as the highest of divine are removed from your player character he's not a monster he's more like an idea a concept

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      *chews a suspiciously large squid ring*

    • @DyrgeAfterDark
      @DyrgeAfterDark 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Their are many Aboleths. Their is only one Dagon

  • @cameronmurrell-byrd7738
    @cameronmurrell-byrd7738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    We must return to the sea! Dagon wills it!!!

  • @lordofrandomspaces3469
    @lordofrandomspaces3469 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dagon, My favorite obrinth! I'm inking in my tank!

    • @LockSteady
      @LockSteady 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Obyrith.... It's Obyrith.... Don't listen to AJ's pronunciations

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh-Brith.

  • @flibbernodgets7018
    @flibbernodgets7018 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would love to see a shalaran lore video, or even an aquatic races lore series. The deep sea fascinates and terrifies me, and I would never want to be an aquatic humanoid IRL but I would gladly roleplay one

  • @theatreofcontroversy
    @theatreofcontroversy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    AJ that intro is so camp its off the chart.... love it ....AND THEN THE LIGHTNING HITS!!!!!!.... oh and THEN you started rhyming -

  • @DuskyPredator
    @DuskyPredator 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Well he certainly brings to mind of the Lovecraft incarnation, although I previously thought of Kuo-toa as a bit of deep one's. Although in D&D he is as you said a demon lord, rather than Great Old One, that is the more Lovecraft pick, such as Great Cthulhu.
    I was just recently looking up Merrow, and apparently they were merfolk altered by the abyss, could there be any connection there? Actually, the MM mention Demogorgon, who as you mentioned is in a sort of ally to Dagon. Sounds like a story there.
    And my knowledge of humanoids transformed into sea creatures, is the Deep Scion, Sea Spawn, and maybe the Kraken priest. They would probably be thrall of his followers, right? Which I guess makes him terrifying among other demon cults. And I was totally not long ago thinking of ideas of a Shadow out of Innsmouth story.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, Dagon has his tentacles in many pies (fish pies).

    • @DuskyPredator
      @DuskyPredator 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whatever you do, don't eat the fish pies.
      I just finished a first draft of land economics. And I was just now trying to get a feel of the economies of sea races, so was just trying to figure out what trade with sea folk is possible. And what the different groups want.

  • @Sean-ni4qy
    @Sean-ni4qy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Not sure if you check these old videos, but do you think Dragon would ever have Tieflings? kinda like the Lovecraft innsmouth or for some dark purpose that his machinations hope to bring to reality? what do you think their subtype abilities would be?

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Hmmm, something like the Innsmouth people, yes. Think... transformation into Koa Toa

    • @cameronmurrell-byrd7738
      @cameronmurrell-byrd7738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      New player character concept?🤔

  • @Veridiansolar
    @Veridiansolar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I wonder what the interactions between Dagon and Umberlee must be like?

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      frosty

    • @saeyabor
      @saeyabor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Don't Google it with safe search off.

    • @digunder14
      @digunder14 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      given umberlee's personality and reputation as the "Bitch queen" i'd say would be a minefield to say the least

    • @Jeremycook_
      @Jeremycook_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm guessing contentious 😁

    • @Veridiansolar
      @Veridiansolar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@digunder14 Given Dagon's approach to Demogorgon, I suspect he is a smooth operator type that would try to placate Umberlee. But you're right. That would be like walking the mother of all minefields.

  • @darkwitchoftheblackforest8593
    @darkwitchoftheblackforest8593 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I am a warlock fathomless and my patron is Dagon.

    • @FathersUnited-fu
      @FathersUnited-fu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How is playing that class & patron combo?

    • @alexbarn3841
      @alexbarn3841 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FathersUnited-fufathomless is very cool, probably the best controller that warlock has to offer.

  • @punchlord
    @punchlord 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    If Guts can slay the Sea God, I can see an adventuring party besting Dagon in battle

    • @KyleJordanGaming
      @KyleJordanGaming 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That would be a *rough* campaign, dude. You thought losing levels in 2E was bad? My brother, you do not yet know the meaning of Sacrifice...

    • @punchlord
      @punchlord 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@KyleJordanGaming perhaps I do, and my players have yet to learn

    • @KyleJordanGaming
      @KyleJordanGaming 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@punchlord That moment when you realize the DM is Griffith...

    • @jacobfreeman5444
      @jacobfreeman5444 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It is possible. But Dagon is not unlike an alien god. He has that kind of ability to perceive and move. Facing him would just be an aspect. He would be weakened by the defeat but in the same way you would feel weak and disoriented by a really bad nightmare. Even then you gotta ask how many such nightmares has he endured, and how many can you?

  • @RockyRodent333
    @RockyRodent333 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great video on perhaps my favorite demon lord.

  • @benmclaine5594
    @benmclaine5594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I so wish you had an animated series

  • @Xion_Toshiro
    @Xion_Toshiro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    6 Dislikes were probably disgruntled Arch Devils or
    Jealous Demon Lords

  • @merrickmiller1224
    @merrickmiller1224 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks for the video, its great refrence. Ive been trying to play a Knowledge Cleric or Divination Wizard of Dagon for awhile now in Adventures League and this gave me some new ideas

  • @xanderwyatt8234
    @xanderwyatt8234 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That beginning is actually some asmr

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The song of the sea

  • @cipherstrife1991
    @cipherstrife1991 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Important question. D&D Dagon vs Lovecraft Dagon

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Demogorgon.

    • @cipherstrife1991
      @cipherstrife1991 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      AJ Pickett Transformers Primus vs D&D Primus? Lol

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

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    • @cipherstrife1991
      @cipherstrife1991 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      AJ Pickett good answer 👍

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      OK, the real answer is
      01010100 01101000 01100101 01111001
      01100001 01110010 01100101
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      01110011 01100001 01101101 01101000

  • @antwan1357
    @antwan1357 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very well done love the descriptive narration.

  • @jaymevosburgh3660
    @jaymevosburgh3660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Well I enjoy imagining the perverse rites ;)

  • @visegrips_n_gafftape
    @visegrips_n_gafftape 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for posting this. Just bought my reaper Father Dagon mini a couple days ago!

  • @jacopoarmini7889
    @jacopoarmini7889 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    one question, are there "water angels"? I mean, what do marine deities send as soldiers?

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There are celestial versions of all terrestrial creatures, so, there are celestial whales, seals, and dolphins.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Essentially, yes.

    • @jacopoarmini7889
      @jacopoarmini7889 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      AJ Pickett
      you see, I remember this canpaign against Dagon in an underwater setting, and an NPC was an angel disguised as some type of merfolk (at the time I still thought of tritons and mermaids), and when it actually showed itself it was rather weird to see this white-winged humanoid swimming around (he died rather horribly).

  • @benmclaine5594
    @benmclaine5594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love the pictures though too beautiful

  • @stevewinkleburg5300
    @stevewinkleburg5300 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    No way this was released 5 years ago. I was thinking like 2 years at most.

  • @jasonsantos3037
    @jasonsantos3037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    How many Creatures and Gods were heavily inspired by HP Lovecraft

    • @JB-mb1ro
      @JB-mb1ro ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Alot!

    • @chrisrapelstapskirappe5367
      @chrisrapelstapskirappe5367 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dagon was around well before mr. Lovecrafts stories. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagon

    • @RobCrowley85
      @RobCrowley85 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@chrisrapelstapskirappe5367True, but Lovecraft's version is used here, especially the one from the film.

  • @rizuopal8153
    @rizuopal8153 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think a fun game idea for D&D would be your in a port town and you overhear strange happenings things like a old rotted pirate ship and you fight Davey johns and his fishmen crew along with the kraken but in the end you either have to fight and beat dagon who was using them to control that territory or banish him

  • @spacewarsfight281
    @spacewarsfight281 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Only 12 dislikes and 1K likes you sir are a legend

  • @trajanfidelis1532
    @trajanfidelis1532 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Would Aboleths work with Dagon?

    • @rejvaik00
      @rejvaik00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Maybe 🤔
      But Dagon would also have competition of obtaining Aboleth worshipers from Demogorgon
      As most of the followers for Demogorgon are aquatic creatures

    • @jacobfreeman5444
      @jacobfreeman5444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Maybe, maybe not. Those two actually seem to cooperate fairly well for ego driven horrors. Despite they both have the significant number of their followers under water they do not seem to be all that jealous of this overlaping of spheres. One can only guess they have some kind of understanding that allows them to be something close to allies. Obviously still demon lords so they won't sacrifice their own interests for each other. But they are something of an oddity. Two powerful demonlords who are not actively sizing up each other's domains.

    • @litchqueenasenath5995
      @litchqueenasenath5995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jacobfreeman5444 Dagon works as an oracle for Demogorgon. My guess is that while the demon lords themselves might not have beef with each other and have similar end goals, I'm sure there are a few points of contention between the three of them (Dagon and both of Demogorgon's heads)

    • @jacobfreeman5444
      @jacobfreeman5444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@litchqueenasenath5995 I would see the heads are less seperate entities and more disassociative outlooks of the same entity. The fractured self is lost and cannot find itself despite seeing itself. Who knows what Demogorgon would become if he could reconcile himself with his mirror image. Maybe a god.

  • @mrkojak-ci1zm
    @mrkojak-ci1zm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Metallica, the thing that should not be.
    Thoroughly enjoying the vids.

  • @jeremymount795
    @jeremymount795 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome video! Have you done anything on Lord Soth and/or Ravenloft? That's what got me into DnD back in the day. Many good men met a twisted and horrible fate inside the mists of Ravenloft.

  • @sypandacat7236
    @sypandacat7236 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I've been wondering how does all this lore get established is a process required with like certain writers or can you write some cool concepts or draw some crazy creature with a name and it's abilities and the d&d community somehow make it canon or do you write to a magazine or something ?

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Dragon magazine, Dungeons magazine, official sourcebooks, and novels endorsed by Wizards of the Coast. At this point, I'd accept Tome of Beasts creatures from Kobold Press as like, a present-day Fiend Folio. Also, adventure league material is offical lore. Things that happen in video games endorsed by Wizards of the Coast are official lore as well, unless contradicted by sourcebooks (sourcebooks can also contradict material from novels)

    • @KyleJordanGaming
      @KyleJordanGaming 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Technically, you can just write some cool concepts or draw crazy creatures and Wizards of the Coast might decide to make it ‘Official Lore’ by *stealing* it. So there’s that.

  • @WoM
    @WoM 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Have you seen the movie? I believe it was filmed right somewhere in your backyard there. It's low budget but I've always been a fan of it.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No? Oh I will have to hunt that one down, thanks Arthur :)

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just watched it, and yes, that is a really good movie! By about half way I wanted to find somewhere dry and warm.. and the chanting, the sudden silences, it is a spooky story done very well.

    • @NodDisciple1
      @NodDisciple1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      World of MONSTERS It was filmed in Spain or Portugal. 😑

    • @damianstruiken2728
      @damianstruiken2728 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brother Malachai what is the movie called

    • @NodDisciple1
      @NodDisciple1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Damian Struiken Dagon?

  • @chriscalvin5083
    @chriscalvin5083 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video

  • @Yuudaddy
    @Yuudaddy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dagon a good name for a powerful being ;]

  • @iGuttsi
    @iGuttsi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Anyone else watching the new Critical Roll season and hope Dagon is Fjords Patron?

  • @gwyndolin1536
    @gwyndolin1536 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What about him vs Leviathan from the Lords of Ruin book? Or would he be in support of him?

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They probably hang out.

  • @swadams2
    @swadams2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Cthulhu/Dagon 2020!
    #NoLivesMatter

  • @Wastelandman7000
    @Wastelandman7000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    So...where is Cthulhu? LOL

  • @ansuz5903
    @ansuz5903 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Elder Scrolls is basically just single player D&D

  • @michaelkelligan7931
    @michaelkelligan7931 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    In actual history the fish god Dagon from the Babalonian Mysteries Religions (modern freemasonry york,scottish rites) had hats called a mitre that their high priests wore are absolute duplicates of the ones the Catholic popes wear! True story!

    • @ericbondeson3614
      @ericbondeson3614 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He was also the main god of the Philistines

    • @DCdabest
      @DCdabest 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Literal meme tier nonsense mate.

    • @michaelkelligan7931
      @michaelkelligan7931 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DCdabest I've forgotten more about Freemasonry,the Knights of Malta as well as the Rosicrucians than you'll ever know sonny.......and i'm NOT your mate bud!

    • @DCdabest
      @DCdabest 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelkelligan7931
      I ain't your buddy, guy

  • @emiliadaria
    @emiliadaria 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love Dagon ~ 💖

  • @subparsentient2653
    @subparsentient2653 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aww, but the intro again. Don't think I don't pay attention! ;3
    Just havin' a gaff, keep up the juicy lore.

  • @jeremybrooks7415
    @jeremybrooks7415 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Are those Aboleth moving into his mouth at 10:30?

    • @angrygardengnome8383
      @angrygardengnome8383 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Aboleth are more like catfish iirc those look like squid or something

  • @jprp999
    @jprp999 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Someone should commission a TV series along the lines of Game of Thrones but instead of the noble families have Demon lords of the Abyss.

  • @lorenburnham821
    @lorenburnham821 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Did a video on those shalarens ever get done?

  • @Craig_Tucker48
    @Craig_Tucker48 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That poem you read at the start? Where is that from? I love it!

    • @Craig_Tucker48
      @Craig_Tucker48 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you write it? Please let me know! I am adding it to my collection of quality poems for my younger students to read to practice their fluency and expression and I would like to accredit it rather than have written as author unknown.

    • @lightninjohn5651
      @lightninjohn5651 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Craig_Tucker48I looked up the lines and couldn’t find anything so I’m led to believe he wrote it

    • @GabrielVelez-rn8dp
      @GabrielVelez-rn8dp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wanna hear the story on this poem

  • @adamholcomb200
    @adamholcomb200 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is a AL mod in T4 that you do get battle Dagon

  • @shamusfarmer
    @shamusfarmer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Doesnt seem all that evil to me, if you look at it from a certain (aquatic) point of view.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      .... perhaps I did not make it very clear. He corrupted and destroyed the civilization of an entire ocean, the transplantation of one sea into another caused massive devastation and he turned the people who he damned near annihilated, into his simpering minions. If it was not such a bothersome task, he would simply flood the entire surface of Toril and destroy all life on the land. He is not, a nice, thing. :)

  • @dogle9258
    @dogle9258 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm DMing a game where they are about to make it to the boss Abolith and had named the guy Dagon already. I know I can play it however, but is there any link with Aboliths and Dagon the demon lord. Aboliths arnt really the same thing as Obyrith/ Demons right?

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Aboleth are some of the first living creatures to exist, the Obyrith are completely different, and no, there is no real relationship between the two. Aboleth, like Dagon, seek to rule the ocean and keep all creatures in their own domain. They don't want to 'evolve', as they consider their form to be perfect, just how it is.

    • @ANotmyname
      @ANotmyname 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I could see an aboleth performing a false flag on their enemies. If they think they're fighting Dagon itself they'll be on the back foot. If they never see the creature they might blame Dagon instead of an aboleth making their victory all the sweeter.

    • @fistimusmaximus6576
      @fistimusmaximus6576 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In a previous video you mentioned how some of the ancient aboleths are almost godlike in power, Shame they havent flushed out the underwater conflicts that must occur between dagon and aboleths as they vie for control of the depths

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It seems that Dagon and the other lords of the deep are dormant for long periods of time, so, perhaps the Aboleth just get up to no good while the old ones sleep, and scatter for safety when they rouse.

  • @axelthouin4389
    @axelthouin4389 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    cool.

  • @PlanetZoidstar
    @PlanetZoidstar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    US HeroQuest has a Zargon in it too. Intentional coincidence perhaps?

    • @justicedemocrat9357
      @justicedemocrat9357 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is Zargon the big floating head from the power rangers?

    • @PlanetZoidstar
      @PlanetZoidstar ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justicedemocrat9357 That's Zordon.

  • @joedominguez8064
    @joedominguez8064 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had a Druid pc who ended up indoctrinated into a cult of Dagon and it was pretty awesome tbh 😂

  • @thedarkmaster4747
    @thedarkmaster4747 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    crawl back into ocean, and forget thy sacreliged of dagon!!! @_@ elderitch abominations are always wonderfull to learn about.

    • @fistimusmaximus6576
      @fistimusmaximus6576 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He is still young to the true rulers of the sea..aboleth..

    • @thedarkmaster4747
      @thedarkmaster4747 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fistimus Maximus "We must!... ... ... Let. Them. Fight?!?!" 🤓🙏😵🐙⚔🦑💪🌍👑 *had too much fun watching godzilla king of monsters* "Who are we!?!?... To decide... The legitimacy... Of the gods!?!?!?!?" *starts cheering on dagon*

    • @fistimusmaximus6576
      @fistimusmaximus6576 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thedarkmaster4747 Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

  • @Greatermememan
    @Greatermememan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well Creepy water monster= fun Goo

  • @DarthSironos
    @DarthSironos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Now this is just blatant theft of Lovecraft's creations.

    • @camomoose1078
      @camomoose1078 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Not really.
      Dagon was worshipped as part of a actual religion.
      So lovecraft stole him to.

    • @jacobfreeman5444
      @jacobfreeman5444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      More like a homage. While obviously the character of this Dagon goes back to Lovecraft the entity is far older than him.

    • @totallynotalpharius2283
      @totallynotalpharius2283 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Public domain yo

    • @rejvaik00
      @rejvaik00 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not really as much of HP Lovecraft is over 100 years old now and Lovecraft himself died pretty young
      so yeah nearly everything that he published in the 1910s - 1920s is either in the public domain or is about to enter the public domain

    • @RobCrowley85
      @RobCrowley85 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@rejvaik00Theft may have been the wrong word, but the overall theme did come from Lovecraft. I remember seeing Dagon in the 4e MM and it looked almost exactly like the Dagon from the film, Dagon. Homage is fine, but the look should have been changed enough to make it their own.

  • @zacharyhawley1693
    @zacharyhawley1693 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Water daddy. Hahaha. So named cause being a charismatic sorcerer anti hero. I decided to tell the rest of the table I'd seduce the next next monster our party faced as a joke. And the DM took that as a personal challenge not expecting I did also. Turns out you can seduce a demon lord through thier aspect. My sorcerer has the dubious honor of rolling three nat 20s in a row and the much more dubious honor of being abducted mid campaign and never seen again until very late into epic.

  • @captainhellenic
    @captainhellenic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    How many ancient dragons would it take to defeat dagon?

    • @onappap
      @onappap ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m 5e probably like 2 or 3, they do epic creatures so dirty

    • @justicedemocrat9357
      @justicedemocrat9357 ปีที่แล้ว

      More than what's needed to change a lightbulb.

  • @bartholsapple8193
    @bartholsapple8193 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    sorry for being so late to ask this but, is their any way I might get copies of dragon magazine either paper back or pdf.

    • @ryderma1
      @ryderma1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think there's an app called Dragon+. I believe you can find issues there, but I'm not positive.

    • @Espartano692
      @Espartano692 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ryderma1 you're correct, although issues aren't released regularly

  • @MrDeejayjfx
    @MrDeejayjfx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wondering if there are any hp lovercraft inspired monster aside from ilithids in the forgotten realms?

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kuo-toa for sure.

  • @Gnomelord0
    @Gnomelord0 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    where did you get this lore?

  • @subparsentient2653
    @subparsentient2653 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wait a minute. Talking about boundaries between gods? What does that mean? It there some kind of consequence for them to screw with each other on the huge scale or is it just a huge gentleman's agreement?

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ao cannot do anything about the actual power of a god that is not purely local to (at most) Realmspace. Any god with a presence in multiple spheres, such as Lolth, or the elemental deities, or even the entire Mulhorandi pantheon, is constrained by Ao's rules only as far as their interaction with Faerun goes.

    • @arhambliss8606
      @arhambliss8606 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Can an multipsphere god kill by destroying him and his sphere? Also is the Abyss is the forgotten realms or in ever D&D realm?

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The gods can't destroy the spheres, nobody knows where they came from and for all intents and purposes, they are indestructible (though, there are exceptions to even that rule). The Abyss is multidimensional, so, it is all over the place, and no, I don't think destroying realmspace would kill Ao, he is just.. I guess you could say he is assigned there.

    • @arhambliss8606
      @arhambliss8606 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      So he can not be killed sucks.

    • @jacobfreeman5444
      @jacobfreeman5444 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ao is the boss of that sphere. That is all there is to it. It take another with similar or superior authority to perform a feat like killing him...and I suspect all such are part of some agreement that binds them to non-interference. So long the rules are kept the Overgod and over crowd don't care. That said the actual rules can be...murky. And mortals not exactly beholden to the same set as gods. So...lets say...you had a devious god work on a scheme for eons to get mortals to put the right series of rituals in place that would allow a temporary suspension of said rules for that god...it doesn't even have to go right. Perhaps it having a critical fail is part of the storyline and now somethimg even worse is about to be unleashed. Like Tharizdun. Or accidentally dumping the Dawn War on the planet. Ect. You get the idea.

  • @Demolitiondude
    @Demolitiondude 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's beginning to look a lot like fishmen.

  • @Derinma
    @Derinma 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    IÄ! IÄ!

  • @dragonballtalk8527
    @dragonballtalk8527 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Is there a dagon mini

    • @Red0Leader
      @Red0Leader 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is a Reaper Bones Dagon mini. He doesn't look like how he is described in Forgotten Realms lore but still very cool.

    • @dragonballtalk8527
      @dragonballtalk8527 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Red0Leader not bad bub

  • @markusnavergard2387
    @markusnavergard2387 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    what if DnD dagon faced of with Cthulhu?

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cthulhu would bend the knee.

  • @mrl9418
    @mrl9418 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But what are stars in dd, if the crystal spheres end little after the last planet ? Are they other spheres?

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dagon is trans-dimensional, he could be temporarily removed from the world/dimension of Toril, but he would simply slither back in from a parallel dimension, shortly after, or perhaps before he was about to be destroyed (since dimensions don't need to line up, temporally, case and point, the Feywild). The crystal sphere boundary exists as far away from the outermost planet of a stellar system, as the outmost planet exists from the system's central star (or however the system is arranged, not all of them are star systems), so, it is a very large sphere, and yes, there are spheres for Toril, Greyhawk, Krynn, Athas, Mystara, etc.

    • @mrl9418
      @mrl9418 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      AJ Pickett but what are the stars that humans on Toril see in the night sky? I mean simple, non transdimensional humans. And, do they know what the stars are ? I'm starting to doubt there should be stars in the sky of Toril at all. Maybe they should just be seeing the reflected light on the few planets inside the sphere and that should be it for the night sky.

  • @tristanswan1067
    @tristanswan1067 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    9:43 who do they also worship, sorry?

    • @DevilmanEnvoy
      @DevilmanEnvoy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Swanster meister Umberlee, the bitch queen.

    • @tristanswan1067
      @tristanswan1067 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nyte Shay Thankee kindly

  • @derrabbit7289
    @derrabbit7289 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ia Ia Cthulhu Ryleh!

  • @kevinchristiansen4348
    @kevinchristiansen4348 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love dragon, the lord of deformity

  • @miklosselkirk
    @miklosselkirk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    "He's an Oberyth demon lord..."
    >goes on to literally describe what can only be a deity.
    I guess the distinction seems really fuzzy to me? Would that be a good video topic, in itself, I wonder?

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I do have a video on the Ecology of Gods... the comment section is a dumpster fire, as you would imagine.

    • @miklosselkirk
      @miklosselkirk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@AJPickett Aah. I'll try and find it then. Does it go into the distinction between the modt powerful demons/devils etc and actual deities?
      Sorry people are being twerps there.

    • @martonlerant5672
      @martonlerant5672 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Dieties (the original ones) have very different origin to demon lords.
      Ofc. "anyone" can attain a divine portfolio, and gain divinity in this sense (see guys like Vecna for reference). In terms of powers there is little difference between divines, or a demonlord holding a divine portfolio.

    • @miklosselkirk
      @miklosselkirk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks!

    • @Eisenwulf666
      @Eisenwulf666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Demon lords are almost like Gods in every aspect, their origin being very different though. Oberyth demon lords are even more powerful : they had to reform after passing in our reality,with thousands of lesser entities continuously grasping,biting, tearing at their very being in a desperate attempt to maintain or regain a physical form. Then they had to fight against the primordials first, the tanari later just to keep existing. The fact Dagon is still standing is testament to its incredible power.

  • @Shunthegoat
    @Shunthegoat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ah the dadric lord change

  • @markusnavergard2387
    @markusnavergard2387 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    arnt Dagon THE oldest demon lord? in 4.E he was already there whean the abyss was opened

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, he is among the first, and there are only a dozen of them as far as I know.

  • @markusnavergard2387
    @markusnavergard2387 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Also are Dagon not best pal with Demogorgon? this song fits dagon to th-cam.com/video/OaMj1GwjaEo/w-d-xo.html

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Demogorgon has only one friend.... chuck norris.

    • @markusnavergard2387
      @markusnavergard2387 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      demogorgon is not even friend with himself. idea, cult of demogorgon finds a artifact of love and will give it to their lord so his two heads stopp trying to kill each other and instead will marry each other. adventurers must break them up

  • @MsGhoulz
    @MsGhoulz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Why does Dagon even exist? Even Demogorgon is hogging the sea.

    • @jacobfreeman5444
      @jacobfreeman5444 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Well, Demogorgon is the Prince of demons. So most are wise to play nice with him. But Dagon is the true demon lord of the depths. It is only because of their amicable relationship that Demogorgon can expand his reach to the oceans. No doubt Dagon is more than strong enough to stop that if it suited him. It is just too profitable for Dagon to be buddy buddy with Demogorgon is all. After all who is gonna say no to Dagon's interests, which scorn dry land, with Demogorgon looming in the background?

    • @digunder14
      @digunder14 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      well last i checked, dagon is the one manipulating demogorgon a lot of the time and they have an alliance of sorts, dagon secretly whispering things into the ears of one of demogorgon's heads

    • @mikeglowatz2273
      @mikeglowatz2273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Demogorgon is dagons little pet.

  • @Babbleplay
    @Babbleplay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Your take on Dragons is weird; never heard of any like this. Also, you misspelled 'Dragon' in the title; left out the R.
    (Yes, kidding. A'iah Dagon)

  • @emiliadaria
    @emiliadaria 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:22 What's that race again? I'm always looking for new fishpeople. My first ever player character was a sahuagin. 😀
    EDIT: Sh- Shelaren? Searches yield nothing (except for, surprisingly, porn stars 😅).

    • @LiveWireRadioHead
      @LiveWireRadioHead 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Here you go, the name is Shalarin
      forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Shalarin

    • @emiliadaria
      @emiliadaria 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you ~ 💖

  • @digunder14
    @digunder14 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    #pretslepeople :P

  • @LockSteady
    @LockSteady 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How the hell do you manage to get an N sound into Obyrith? You friggin kiwi! lol

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know! It annoys me also, I don't know how I picked up that habit and it is incorrect, I apologise.