100% true but when it comes to love. Love knows no bounds. If u love me no matter if I'm sick, rude, bitchy, post op, pre op, natural etc etc u still love me. It may be a different kinda love. From friends to more or vice versa you but if u love me u will forever love me, support me, & encourage me. You won't need to understand my predilections (cuz what I think some queer folk confuse. Straight folks don't really get being homosexual and I get that cuz it's not ur twist.) Cuz I don't understand why some folks exercise & do steroids to the point of it being dangerous. But if you truly loved me n not ur idea of me all is needed is to understand my heart & humanity. Period. to me that is acceptance. 🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️
@@iamiieyeialien2061 But in this case, the "mother " was Not thinking about her daughter and the effect that it will have on her mental.She could have at least waited a while until after her daughter had grown. She already had the idea of becoming a man before she gotten pregnant but why get pregnant just to confuse the child🤔
@@YourAverageChick Children are far more open minded and understanding than adults would ever be. The people who have a problem with this are the adults, not the child. What a child needs is a loving home to grow up in. With people that want them. Anything outside of that is just other people pushing their expectations of what an adequate parent is. Which is honestly none of your business. Especially given the types of straight cis parents many of y’all have been raised by. Absolute chaos and abandonment issues.
@@Luv2lol123456789kids are not as open minded from birth the way ppl think. If it doesn’t make sense, a child will be the first to call that out unless they are conditioned to just accept anything. My cousin is dating a stud, my son was 2 and asked if she was a boy or girl. Life is very black and white for children. Adults make things confusing and teach kids to accept or not to accept what adults normalize.
Dude shouldn't have had no kids with someone who he knew was going to transition and he didnt want to raise the child with them. People keep saying you can't force someone to accept you, you can't force someone to be who YOU want them to be either. Point blank period. Stop trying to change people. Let them be or leave them alone.
I am glad the mother walked out. Karamo was talking as though he knows what is going on between the mother and son when he clearly does not - no one does except them. A mother can disapprove of their child’s lifestyle whether that child is gay or straight. So what was he trying to say? It’s ok for a mother to disapprove of a child’s lifestyle if the child is straight but if the child is gay they have to approve of everything they do. Nonsense.
If a mother disapprove if they're child is gay or straight that's not real love but at the end of the day a boy is a boy and a girl is a girl period point blank but it is what it is we have men turning into women and women turning into men
You used the word lifestyle and that is the part of the problem. His lifestyle (whether gay or straight or any place in between ) is reckless, but most young people do a lot of reckless things because they don’t see consequences. It’s hard to parent a 24 yo. But this is a woman lost custody of her child and had supervised visits. Even Christmas visits were at her parents’ house. (That’s supervision too). Twice a month supervised visits, there is something very wrong with her (according to court standards). I don’t think his sexuality is the issue but there is something going on in the background with her.
Well I agree with some part u said but the way you going at karma is unnecessary it's a talk show I mean Steve wikos ,maury and Jerry springer all do the same thing so don't come karma like that he's just trying to understand and gave her a salutation so chill out every talk show host does that
I agree! Because what parent would want their kid hanging around sketchy ppl or making questionable decisions. He made it all about being gay, even Luke started defending his mom. 😒
I totally agree on this one… karamo was out of line on this one, he literally made this about himself… that mom doesn’t hate her child, at least not the way his putting it. He was out of control and didn’t solve anything honestly.
I love my children immensely. I would die for them no hesitation but I would struggle with any of them deciding to transition. My love wouldn’t waiver but I would absolutely need time & grace to accept it. The LGBTQ community demands acceptance and they deserve it why can’t heterosexual people be given some grace during their journey of being accepting & understanding
Because WE have given you all enough time. We've had to be in the shadows/closet for decades to allow others who don't understand us comfort and compassion. We have been bullied, threatened, beaten, and sometimes killed for just AUTHENTICALLY daring to live out loud. It's a new day and we dare NOT go back to where we once were. I totally understand allowing people the time to get adapted to someone that's transitioning because it's not a easy transition across the board for the singular individual. However, avoiding it and purposely asking for more time is disrespectful IF you aren't attempting to make the change for the one you say you love. I'm just saying this a personal experience. To hear my mother call me Kameron throughout the holiday made my heart smile. I don't want you to think I'm not coming at you .. I just want you to understand it from the point of view from a black transwoman. I wish we didn't have to do all of this, but unfortunately, that's how it's going to be if we don't allow others to just authentically be themselves.
Totally agree with you, you said that 💪💯 the LGBTQ community demands acceptance and deserves it, why can't heterosexual people be given some grace to understand it & accept it P.S. I'm apart of the LGBTQ community as well & recognizes that that's a double standard and that's not right 💯
@@KamTheeKilla I'm sorry but I completely disagree with your assessment. Reason being because when a majority of these people transition back. All of a sudden where's all that BS you just preached about with acceptance. The majority of you look down on everyone else not looking up to ya'll, which is why the majority is always against it. Your community throughout history has had to be humbled and start all over again simply because it does not want to take the time to reflect on anything. The rest of humanity don't got time to wait for ya'll to get it together. Just like ya'll got nothing to say for those who felt they were taken advantage of at a young age by their parents who had them mutlilated or messed up behind their prideful indoctrinations.. But I guarantee you got nothing to say about detransitioner's because your PRIDE consumes you. WHAT SAY YOU?
I remember being young and gay and TRUST me his mom is doing her best. She may not be perfect and thats fine. Young gay men are promiscuous, wild, disrespectful etc.. his mom is trying to help him but he wants to discover life on his own. And unfortunately the world acts like gay ppl can’t be wrong so everyone is going to lie to him about his role or bad behaviors.
The world literally thinks gay people are wrong because they are gay. Also, the mom isn't doing her best if she's not trying to understand her child on a deeper level.
Karamo, in my opinion you could do a better job of managing your bias & be more objective. I felt like you projected your experiences on to the mother in the last portion of the segment. You routinely cut her off, making it impossible for her to communicate her thoughts, feelings & experiences. I felt like you are being slighlty antagonistic & dismissive at times. Personally, I don’t think you did very much to broker or facilitate peace and understanding between this mother and her adult child.
I mean Kamaru. Not you. Kamaru projects things he face as a child or something. But the way he attacks parents make them feel like they are not deserving. And it breaks my heart
He's grieving that he finally found a girl that he loved, something that he didn't think could happen. He's grieving having to go back to that bandage. Help them Jesus. My hearts aches for them
He knew from the time he met her that she was transitioning, He had it in his delusional mind that he could change her when all he did was set himself up for failure, He is a control freak narcissistic individual.
The son was even defending his mother so I don’t understand why Karamo was so worked up. He was definitely projecting. The mother had every right to be concerned about his choices. Parents of straight kids are also concerned about their choices. Is she not allowed to be concerned because it come across as her being “homophobic”. Karamo doesn’t need to have this type of discussion on his show anymore because clearly it hit close to home for him.
I agree 100%. I didn’t get that she had a problem with him, just his choices and Karakoram was so dead set on defending when it didn’t apply to this specific fact. What about accountability for Luke and his choices and a young man that he calls his mom for help on. Karamo you missed the mark on this one!
Karamo used his emotions and his gay status to answer the last one between mum & transgender son. It is not easy to assimilate that your baby wants to be identified as a different person/ gender. You give them time to accept but don't force them
Luke said he isn’t transgender and identifies as male for now. So mom is definitely right it’s a life style. The host is just butt hurt because he is gay and want every lgqb accepted.
She had supervised visitation, why? She didn't even show up for the majority of her visitations, why? This mother is blaming others for her not being involved.
Sometimes I agree with Karamo’s tots on certain issues but I feel he can be bias when it’s personal or concerns him. Be whoever u want to be but also don’t force people to accept ur choices… it’s a two way street!
You also can't force people to be who you want them to be....if you don't accept their choices then leave them the hell alone don't try to enforce your lifestyle and opinions on them
You have a right to belive what you want but don't be suprised when you don't have a relationship with people when you can't accept a fundamental part of them. Same way black people don't want relationships with racists, neither do LGBT people want to have relationships with homophobic people
He always does that I always say most of the time is advice is sooo bias! I also don’t like when he tells ppl they need to break up and then damn near force them to break up right there on the show! Granite some ppl are toxic and don’t need to be together but to force is is crazy to me! 😳😳😳
What a way to treat a guest. The son is probably a risk taker and the mom is truly scared for him. Interesting how they breezed over how he picked up a guy, who has now tattooed his name on him and totalled his car. He is one of those who will have to learn the hard way, and the mom can see it and is trying to keep it from happening.
So true. He may be an adult, but he is behaving recklessly and the mom is trying to stop him before he gets in even deeper than what he already has, but he's being ( as they say in the south) hardheaded and won't listen. At 24 he thinks he is soooogrown, much MORE grown-up than his 24 years, but he STILL has a lot to learn. She MAY have messed up before, but she's trying NOW. I see Mama bear in her. I hope his hard-headed ways don't cost him dearly.
The youngman/youngwoman is acting out in my opinion and is angry with his Mother and has wanted her every since his father won custody from the divorce. I pray he and his mom build a strong bond and they both get helpful counseling that will support healthy healing.
SO WUT LIFE IZ ABOUT TAKIN RISKS, & RISK TAKERS R ALWAYZ COVERED N DA BLOOD V JESUS MOM A GROWN AZ WOMAN WHO SHOULD'VE BEEN DER N DAT CHILDS LIFE, SHE FUKD UP ALONG DA WAY & LOST CUSTODY, DEFINITELY NOT LUKES FAULT... SHE NEED 2BUCKLE DA FUK DOWN & BUILD A BETA BOND WIT HER NU DAUGHTER... POINT BLANK PERIODTTT
What about the mother's unwise choices? She wasn't there for her son. She lost custody for a reason. Two supervised visits per month and acts like she was a good mom. I wish Karamo would have asked why the visits were supervised. Let's get to the truth. Had the nerve to say she was always there when she wasn't. She's in denial and has no accountability. She gave on example of about the homeless guy he brought home and some of you are acting like he's made so many mistakes. News flash. A lot of LGBTQ are homeless.
@@TasteMyRainb0w you’re more upset about it than he was. He loves his mom and knew why THEY WOULDNT LWT HER BE THERE. calm down. it ain’t your life. it’s his and his mom and i believe she’s just being a loving mom
Joel 2:28 (KJV) And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
@@itsnicoletoyou5524no not really because there’s gay and trans people all in the open world and public. That boy is in denial and weak minded which is why he went n got a woman pregnant.😂
Karamo was wrong on this one! He pretty much attacked the mother. I think she's just an over bearing mom and she made some mistakes along the way. I think she was right about Karamo projecting because it made him angry. He too, is still dealing with his own issues.
Karamo, you missed it on this one. Luke was making bad friend choices that was affecting his mother. She was the one called and told that Luke was missing. She was the one helping him when the fake friend totaled the car! The pain is obvious. It has nothing to do with how one identifies. Parents are concerned and worry about their children. She told you Luke was/is disrespectful. Please call them back to get the whole story; I believe you can help them.
Yes I agree with you, I feel his mother accept him but it's his decisions and disrespect is why she's hurt....it's like I can see him dissing her because she wasn't always in his life ....I think she needs to leave him n let him be n just let him learn from his mistakes as he said....
Yes seems son and Karamo doesn’t have entire story of custody situation and makes me wonder why she didn’t have custody so there are a lot of pieces missing .
exactly he only felt like she was targeting luke is cuz she said something about the picture he had on the internet... in her eyes she treating her(luke) like a mother would treat her daughter... parent are more protective when it comes to the daughters... she was only being a parent... i remember i took a picture in my new bathing suit when i was developing and my mother told me watch what u post because its a lot of predictors out here
This is a joke…I’m sorry. Karamo is absolutely projecting & putting words in the Moms mouth. When a person says “your lifestyle” she’s speaking about the poor decisions he’s making. And then to say, he won’t allow someone to say he doesn’t know what he’s talking about, Sir, you don’t know EVERYTHING & you have to listen to others openly if you want a productive dialogue. Wanting her son to be safe in his decisions does not mean she has bias about his sexual identity. Like this was brutal to watch because you weren’t accepting the mom’s experience at all. To say she wasn’t there, when she was by LAW not allowed to be there, smh! She did what she cld with what she was given. Not to invalidate how that felt to Luke, but let’s not villainize her for what was out of her control. Don’t allow your support for your community make you blind to other people’s experiences causing you to invalidate their feelings.
Maybe I missed it. I don’t see what the mother did to disrespect her child. The guy is 18 there will be ratchet friends that a parent is supposed to sound the alarm
I think because she said “I hate you” to him and he’s 24 not 18….I mean I can see everyone having some ratchet friends but not picking random ppl up off the street lol that’s dangerous! she may feel a way about picking randoms up. 🤷🏼♀️ I would.
This mom loves her son she didn’t seem to have a problem with his life but something else we don’t know or understand. I only know this from listening.
Koramo is too biased for me… how he treated Luke’s mom is not how a talk show host behaves, I’ve never seen a host behave that way. He was totally fine when Luke said his mom said she hated him, it wasn’t until she said he was projecting that he flipped out. He was definitely projecting because if he wasn’t he wouldn’t have reacted the way he did. As a host or an interviewer, your main focus is to keep your emotions together and he failed. This was some reality tv “The Real World” mess! He shouldn’t do topics like this if he’s going to be totally biased.
I think Karamo started getting upset because there was some miscommunication when he was trying to “educate” her. She didn’t even get to explain what was bothering her because he immediately assumed it had to be about her son being gay. And I think some parts of that are true. But I think it’s because luke’s lifestyle is unsafe. What was interesting to me is both her and the son think queerness is synonymous with being “out there”.. when that’s not the case. But at the end of the day, I see a mother who is scared of the damage her son may be doing to himself. And I see a son who desperately wants community and a healthy relationship with the people around him. I don’t think either of them really got to speak on their issues cause Karamo was stuck on some of the language being used.
Luke wanted to have peace with their mother but Karamo destroyed the opportunity by projecting his hate for straight parents on her. The word lifestyle has nothing to do with sexual orientation. It simply means the way a person is living. Am so sorry that mum had to go through that.
This is the first time that I do not agree with Karamo. Everyone has their own parenting styles and he just denied the mother's feelings. Even Luke knew his mother doesn't hate him.
Right . Lifestyle has nothing to do with one's identity . U can dislike someone's lifestyle and not dislike their identity. He was deffinitely projecting like she said
If you don't consider straight/heterosexuality or non-trans/cis (cisgender) people to be a lifestyle, then you're proving his point. People use the word lifestyle against LGBT to denounce them. And to make it seem like it's a choice. When people talk about the grief of coming out to someone you're close with. They feel their grief is more important than the other person's and that the person wronged them. And even then, they do not realize it takes a lot for a person to come out. There is a lot of inner turmoil within a person, especially if they're a non-white person. So, while you may not consider the word “lifestyle” offensive, know that it carries a negative meaning for the above reasons.
I think Karamo was projecting in the last case. He was using emotions and personal situations to make her face a truth that really may not have been hers. Perhaps he was talking to his own Mother or the people who mistreated him.
I agree very much! This mom seems like a loving mom that wants what's best for her child, Period. She stayed I. His life no matter, and I didn't see her as being judge mental!
I totally agree! I saw a loving mother who KNOWS her child’s WEAKNESS & she doesn’t want her child to fall prey to this world’s painful traps, period! HE WAS WAY OFF!
You’re aloud to be sad that the child you thought you’d see grow up is not the version you want to see grow up. But as a mom myself you don’t have the right to disown, be so frustrated you lash out and just never listen you can’t shut your child out just because you don’t understand or agree. If you truly love them how can you walk away you have every right to communicate hey baby I hope you’re okay with me taking time to grieve the you I was thinking you were until you’ve opened up and told me who you wanna be! I’m here for you and won’t treat you any differently but just know if you catch me having a hard day I don’t hate anything you chose I’m just remembering the past a bit so I can move on faster for us! It’s NOT ABOUT YOU ANYMORE! Keep pushing kids away and see how each generation gets worse.. that’s why this new generation is so broken and trying to be so understanding because they’re parents could never sit the hell down and have a calm conversation about anything. Half of them can’t even communicate.
Karamo, you are AWESOME! Please don’t ever let anyone change your formula. You are doing healing work that will transform generations of families. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽💛
the world is sick, satan is in control, experimenting with humankind. god help those who are blind and bless those who have opened their hearts to serve him. im not perfect but what im watching is sad, i feel sorry for these men who act like women and women acting like men
Karamo!! You do not bring personal emotions/feelings into counseling people. Why crucifying Luke's mom when she clearly stated facts about him being DISRESPECTFUL / Wrong FRIENDS pick. You never gave her room to explain how hurt it was not having Luke's custody with no room for private discussion with your own child. In Luke's case, Karamo has not been fair.
I agree with you, he was searching for something in Luke's mother that wasn't even there. He was way out of order for raising his voice at this woman. He can't be mad at people for not agreeing with him. He's a horrible councillor.
This one hit him close to home and you could tell. Usually, when he's addressing someone on other topics and it looks like he may be taking a side he starts off with a statement like 'not saying what he did was right however......' not this time. He went all in w
The internet will have you believing this is happening everywhere everyday. I live in the U.S. and I have never personally encountered this type of situation in my life.
You attached the mother sir! You didn't let her speak much and give her side of the story! Nothing was resolved with the mother and son because you could not just be quite and just listen.
I felt like the mom was more concerned of his risky lifestyle not of him being gay. It didn't seem like being gay was the problem but she seemed like a parent that worries if their child is inviting people to their home and let them drive their car and implied the relationship might be going fast because of the tattoo which she is right about. She also wasn't given a chance to speak. Another point I think she might be overprotective because she wasn't able to be around while he was younger so now that she can she is trying to make up for that lost time.
Karamo was projecting because he is too close to that situation to discuss it without bias. He was rude to that mom while educating her. When the mom spoke about how disrespectful her child was at times he never addressed or acknowledged that. He was to busy defending they. Next time a straight professional marriage and family counselor should be on standby to defuse the situation and add balance. That stage wasn't diverse enough for a fair discussion.
I think the focus is that respect goes both ways. The disrespect wasn’t making her completely disrespect her child’s pronouns & transition. She was being hateful and that’s why he got so passionate
He and the audience gave her the same energy she was giving. She up there talking bout we don't have all day for this and then tried to tell him he was projecting. Disrespecting the host you get what you get.
@@xenxen9886 ignorance many children grow with two dads and come out normal. she isn't being robbed out of a mother just because she isn't being raised with the traditional mom and dad figure.
I don’t think the mother was given enough grace. Many parents say and do things they regret. But her daughter acknowledged that she believes her mother loves her but said the hate statement out of anger. Her daughter may be making really risky decisions and the mother is being mother. Her saying “you and your lifestyle,” she had no clue that she was addressing it wrongly as to why she kept repeating (initially). She is trying to grow with her daughter’s identity. The effort and love is there. Let’s give this woman some credit. Food for thought.
Had a problem too with this statement...just because they are confused about identity doesn't make everyone confused...we know what God did in Genesis and there ain't any advise on changing your identity...God has just given them up as the Bible says...😢😢😢
I couldn’t over hear that .. smh maker maybe the crazy doctor who help them be more confused . Sir want to be you are a girl that the way the maker created you .. God have mercies according to his will ..
Exactly! This is what i've been saying. No one is talking about it, though. The son tried to protect her by saying she lost custody because the father battled in court harder or something, but that's not the real reason. Supervised visits are only ordered by the courts when the parent has done something irresponsible and they do not trust that parent to be alone with the child.
This is what people are failing to mention! Losing custody is one thing, but having to have supervised visitation is wiiiild. There had to have been a reason
@@JLenox People's dislike for the LGBT community diverts their attention from more important matters. I've also noticed how supportive people can be towards parents who appear to be rejecting their children's sexual identity. In this regard, the mother is praised, adored, and defended, while the important details of why she could potentially have been a danger to her child are not explored or questioned.
I understand the boyfriends prospective. Being gay is not equivalent to self hate. I don't really care who my son is having sex with. My concern or baring comes from my son loving HIMSELF. That way he can truly love someone else.
Karamo was completely out of line with Luke’s mother. Luke is making bad decisions and disrespecting his mother and she has a right to be concerned. He was definitely projecting and Karamo did more harm than good in this situation. You can see the reluctance in the end of the show when his mom is talking to him. Karamo has that boy believing that he is right and God forbid he keeps making poor decisions and something ends up happening to him. She was wrong for saying I hate you, but I definitely don’t think it’s because he’s gay. It has everything to do with him being disrespectful.
The words “I hate you” will never come out of my mouth toward my child. This is my truth. Just like i don’t understand things about LGBTQIA community, I don’t understand a parent saying that. I’m not required to understand everything.
Karamo is really out here showing people how to love and be loved. I appreciate the care package and the I love yous expressed to Ja'mar! It made my heart smile.
Im gonna be honest as someone that experiences dsyphoria (the psychological term for hating your biological female body parts/attributes) as a female (transmale whatever you want to call it), I would never want to be pregnant that is the most feminine/womenly thing someone can do. Not only that but show pictures of my pregnant female body online, I know people experience dysphoria differently but I can`t act like that is normal or a male thing to do.
You can't force someone to accept your decision on gay matters cause one needs time to let everything sink in ,we are all entitled to our own choices let's not sugar coat things its never easy to understand or accept especially for people who are raised on different environment and made to believe some things are a taboo.
it’s not for u to “understand” or even “accept”. its not ur life therefore it’s not ur place to judge. n if u r religious then uk that’s only gods place to judge. someone being gay has nothing to do with ur day to day life 😂 people are people..gay or not. mind ur business n give the love u wish to receive. that’s it that’s all.
Hell nah. Being gay or trans is not a lifestyle. But I don't live for you straight folks. Until you quit the bullshit. We gays and straight will never have peace
If he is a gay man, where did the interest in Lacresha come from? Is he actually a bi-man? All the best to them, especially as the birth mom deals with the very serious health crisis. May their innocent baby daughter NOT be too confused and tormented by all of this. It is ALL very confusing imo.
Respectfully an ex is an ex for a reason.. Y'all can be cordial and co-parent.. Never allow someone to dictate what the outcome of your life is to become... Be yourself and allow yourself to grow and prosper... I pray he finds peace within and love himself first and everything else will fall in place..,
No, he's not. He was explaining how there's something within her in why she says I hate you to her son. That's when she said he was projecting, which makes no sense. She literally says that to her son and then tried to say it's not because he's gay as if that makes it justified.
@@TasteMyRainb0wshe said in no way am I trying to justify what I said ,yes I was wrong. But it was because disrespect to her. If your son gay or not picked up a homeless person, flew them out, and the homeless person got a big tattoo wotht he sons name on it I would be concerned as well and would actually think drugs were involved.
Don't force anyone to accept you if they have their own beliefs. Give them time. If you are never accepted, love yourself. This forum totally disrespected the mom.
No one disrespected her. They gave her the same energy she was giving. She was rude and smug when she has no reason to be. Talkin bout we don't have all day as if she's running the show. Tried to come for Karamo telling him that he's projecting as if she knows him lol Girl bye.
you don’t have to accept anyone unless it is your child. that’s her child she doesn’t get a choice. beliefs aside she brought a human into this world and that’s her job.
"As a gay man, I don't understand how you don't understand me." Because he never had a kitty cat. He doesn't run on XX chromosomal operating system. He's attracted to men, but he can't understand a woman turning into a man. That's it. I hope baby girl turn out okay.
I met a man in college and we became really close. At some point he told me about SA as a child and it left him unable to be physical. Boy did I love him. He treated me so well. We officially dated after college but we did no more than kiss . I realized he’d be the most affectionate around others or at parties etc. It felt very performative and I realized I was a beard. I don’t think he was gay but he like to present an image to others that wasn’t extended to our private interactions. I went on to marry and have a kid. We are still friends but he’s never admitted any of this to me. He’s over 50 now and I pray he finds happiness.
I feel so bad for people who go through this I was lucky enough to have a bd that accept me being a gay woman and trust me raising my son hope it gets better for him
Exactly. Her son is wild and promiscuous. She's concerned for his safety. Also, the daddy raised him, and he ended up in a dress. So if the mom had raised him and he ended up in a dress, it would be because the dad wasn't there. What is it now? He wants to fill the void of mom's absence by becoming her?
THIS IS VERY SIMPLE!! BOTTOM LINE YOU ACCEPT THE WAY GOD MADE YOU!! IF YOU CAME OUT A FEMALE THAT IS THE WAY GOD MADE YOU! IF YOU CAME OUT AS A MALE THAT IS THE WAY GOD MADE YOU! YOU ACCEPT YOURSELF THE WAY GOD MADE, AND CREATED YOU!
I was so worried about confusing my nieces and nephews when I came out but that didn't happen. I am androgynous, so when I went home for the holidays, they asked this once "are you a girl or boy?" I simply explained to them what I identify as and they've been running with that since. They are not confused and neither are their friends. I realised in my coming out that kids don't really care. They will ask questions out of curiosity, yes but they understand once they have answers to those questions. They're truly much more understanding than we think
This is the problem 38min in this man tried to correct a mother and what she feels! She said you and ur life style and he tried to talk at her and what else is next lock the mom up talkin about u can't say u & ur lifestyle! So should she say u and ur life choices? Or she can't say that either! Please get a place and stay in it! Sir
I don't want to be rude but the 1st case is effed up : Damian who identifies as a gay man was dating a woman, yet when said woman transitioned to be a man, he's still not happy and wants "her" back?? as difficult as life is why would you add complexity to it ?
They have a child, he can be gay all he wants just like she can but it's difficult when u know someone as who they are then one day poof I'm a man that wud mess my head all the way up. They're both selfish stop having kids knowing that ur gonna fuck them up. One day mommy was a woman now she's a man oh no. I have a father I don't want my mom to take on that role, then who am I gonna feel comfortable going to for advice not my dad-mom. This is how outside influence gets in with children.
I agree. I often wonder that. Why make things- ANYTHING in life harder than it has to be. The reality is this is hard with Damian and his mate because of their choices. It will likely be hardest on their daughter. It became hard right from the start when Damian being gay, impregnated Lacresha, and when Lacresha ALLOWED a gay man to impregnate her, knowing he sleeps w/ other men. They should have made smarter choices from the start. There were clear opportunities for that to happen if not on day one, CERTAINLY when it came time to be intimate.They should really have been more mindful and safer. Now there is a child in the middle of confusion.
I’m a mom of 4 . My oldest is about to be 7! And I’ve already decided that even when they are grown im going to be in their business LOL … it doesn’t matter how grown they get, they will ALWAYS be MY BABIES! so until the end of time im going to show up as mama bear ! If I feel like their friends aren’t healthy im going to let them know that . If I feel like something their doing is wrong , im going to let them know that. However something I’ll never do is not accept ones true self . The mom wasn’t wrong at all. She’s just concerned . Karamo wasn’t as harsh as some of you are making it seem. He just wanted to educate her . Now when it comes to LUKE … I can tell he is a hand full. Which is why mom is worried about his “lifestyle” .. and when mom says lifestyle she’s not talking about him being gay because she ACCEPTS HIM. she’s talking about HIM AS A WHOLE. Even if he wasn’t gay she’d still be worried .
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Everyone has the right to live their life the way they want BUT you cannot force others to accept and agree with YOUR choices.
Yes exactly 💯 👏 that's the whole purpose of having Freedom of Speech 💬 👏 🙌
100% true but when it comes to love. Love knows no bounds. If u love me no matter if I'm sick, rude, bitchy, post op, pre op, natural etc etc u still love me. It may be a different kinda love. From friends to more or vice versa you but if u love me u will forever love me, support me, & encourage me. You won't need to understand my predilections (cuz what I think some queer folk confuse. Straight folks don't really get being homosexual and I get that cuz it's not ur twist.) Cuz I don't understand why some folks exercise & do steroids to the point of it being dangerous. But if you truly loved me n not ur idea of me all is needed is to understand my heart & humanity. Period. to me that is acceptance. 🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️
@@iamiieyeialien2061 But in this case, the "mother " was Not thinking about her daughter and the effect that it will have on her mental.She could have at least waited a while until after her daughter had grown. She already had the idea of becoming a man before she gotten pregnant but why get pregnant just to confuse the child🤔
@@YourAverageChick Children are far more open minded and understanding than adults would ever be. The people who have a problem with this are the adults, not the child. What a child needs is a loving home to grow up in. With people that want them. Anything outside of that is just other people pushing their expectations of what an adequate parent is. Which is honestly none of your business. Especially given the types of straight cis parents many of y’all have been raised by. Absolute chaos and abandonment issues.
@@Luv2lol123456789kids are not as open minded from birth the way ppl think. If it doesn’t make sense, a child will be the first to call that out unless they are conditioned to just accept anything. My cousin is dating a stud, my son was 2 and asked if she was a boy or girl. Life is very black and white for children. Adults make things confusing and teach kids to accept or not to accept what adults normalize.
Dude shouldn't have had no kids with someone who he knew was going to transition and he didnt want to raise the child with them. People keep saying you can't force someone to accept you, you can't force someone to be who YOU want them to be either. Point blank period. Stop trying to change people. Let them be or leave them alone.
Periodt. This man knew he was dating a trans man! Now he wanna be mad? That's the wildest part to me.
I don't think he knew that she was going to transition to a he.
Wn
Wn
@@debrahill7911 what else would they have transitioned to 😂😂😂
I am glad the mother walked out. Karamo was talking as though he knows what is going on between the mother and son when he clearly does not - no one does except them. A mother can disapprove of their child’s lifestyle whether that child is gay or straight. So what was he trying to say? It’s ok for a mother to disapprove of a child’s lifestyle if the child is straight but if the child is gay they have to approve of everything they do. Nonsense.
If a mother disapprove if they're child is gay or straight that's not real love but at the end of the day a boy is a boy and a girl is a girl period point blank but it is what it is we have men turning into women and women turning into men
That's great u said it all
THE MOTHER DOES NOT HAVE TO AGREE 👍 WITH HIS LIFESTYLE! AT ALL MR KARMA!🙏😇🔥✌️👍👀🤔
You used the word lifestyle and that is the part of the problem. His lifestyle (whether gay or straight or any place in between ) is reckless, but most young people do a lot of reckless things because they don’t see consequences. It’s hard to parent a 24 yo. But this is a woman lost custody of her child and had supervised visits. Even Christmas visits were at her parents’ house. (That’s supervision too). Twice a month supervised visits, there is something very wrong with her (according to court standards). I don’t think his sexuality is the issue but there is something going on in the background with her.
Well I agree with some part u said but the way you going at karma is unnecessary it's a talk show I mean Steve wikos ,maury and Jerry springer all do the same thing so don't come karma like that he's just trying to understand and gave her a salutation so chill out every talk show host does that
He is projecting! Big time! This is not about you Karamo.
I agree! Because what parent would want their kid hanging around sketchy ppl or making questionable decisions. He made it all about being gay, even Luke started defending his mom. 😒
I totally agree on this one… karamo was out of line on this one, he literally made this about himself… that mom doesn’t hate her child, at least not the way his putting it. He was out of control and didn’t solve anything honestly.
Word on the street today is that Damien out here now dressing like a woman.
I love my children immensely. I would die for them no hesitation but I would struggle with any of them deciding to transition. My love wouldn’t waiver but I would absolutely need time & grace to accept it. The LGBTQ community demands acceptance and they deserve it why can’t heterosexual people be given some grace during their journey of being accepting & understanding
So much preaching to discontinue the future of humanity
Because WE have given you all enough time. We've had to be in the shadows/closet for decades to allow others who don't understand us comfort and compassion. We have been bullied, threatened, beaten, and sometimes killed for just AUTHENTICALLY daring to live out loud. It's a new day and we dare NOT go back to where we once were. I totally understand allowing people the time to get adapted to someone that's transitioning because it's not a easy transition across the board for the singular individual. However, avoiding it and purposely asking for more time is disrespectful IF you aren't attempting to make the change for the one you say you love. I'm just saying this a personal experience. To hear my mother call me Kameron throughout the holiday made my heart smile.
I don't want you to think I'm not coming at you .. I just want you to understand it from the point of view from a black transwoman. I wish we didn't have to do all of this, but unfortunately, that's how it's going to be if we don't allow others to just authentically be themselves.
Totally agree with you, you said that 💪💯 the LGBTQ community demands acceptance and deserves it, why can't heterosexual people be given some grace to understand it & accept it P.S. I'm apart of the LGBTQ community as well & recognizes that that's a double standard and that's not right 💯
@@KamTheeKilla I'm sorry but I completely disagree with your assessment. Reason being because when a majority of these people transition back. All of a sudden where's all that BS you just preached about with acceptance. The majority of you look down on everyone else not looking up to ya'll, which is why the majority is always against it. Your community throughout history has had to be humbled and start all over again simply because it does not want to take the time to reflect on anything. The rest of humanity don't got time to wait for ya'll to get it together. Just like ya'll got nothing to say for those who felt they were taken advantage of at a young age by their parents who had them mutlilated or messed up behind their prideful indoctrinations.. But I guarantee you got nothing to say about detransitioner's because your PRIDE consumes you. WHAT SAY YOU?
That's your problem.
I remember being young and gay and TRUST me his mom is doing her best. She may not be perfect and thats fine. Young gay men are promiscuous, wild, disrespectful etc.. his mom is trying to help him but he wants to discover life on his own. And unfortunately the world acts like gay ppl can’t be wrong so everyone is going to lie to him about his role or bad behaviors.
Thank you for sharing this! 💙
The world literally thinks gay people are wrong because they are gay. Also, the mom isn't doing her best if she's not trying to understand her child on a deeper level.
Karamo, in my opinion you could do a better job of managing your bias & be more objective. I felt like you projected your experiences on to the mother in the last portion of the segment. You routinely cut her off, making it impossible for her to communicate her thoughts, feelings & experiences. I felt like you are being slighlty antagonistic & dismissive at times. Personally, I don’t think you did very much to broker or facilitate peace and understanding between this mother and her adult child.
You don't know what you are talking about. You are truly projecting things on her. It sucks
I mean Kamaru. Not you. Kamaru projects things he face as a child or something. But the way he attacks parents make them feel like they are not deserving. And it breaks my heart
I agree
Exactly cutting the mom off changing her words and what did that child say to his mom to make her say that and she's just worried about him ijs
He do shit like this to some guests.. He was on that girl that critiqued and tested the pink sauce lady’s sauce.. He was dead ass wrong for that too
This World Need Jesus 🌍
Preach sister
All we can do is love them, pray and live a life of witness before them(everyone).🙏🏾
Real Bad
The world have Jesus is the people that need Jesus 😂😂😂❤
The problem of people don't read the Bible and see what God did to gay people.
A lot of prayer is Definitely needed here
He's grieving that he finally found a girl that he loved, something that he didn't think could happen. He's grieving having to go back to that bandage. Help them Jesus. My hearts aches for them
Amen. The child going to grow up very confused. God Bless these people
@@Creative.Clouds y'all sound a lil. Dumb
He knew from the time he met her that she was transitioning, He had it in his delusional mind that he could change her when all he did was set himself up for failure, He is a control freak narcissistic individual.
@@Creative.Cloudsso there isn’t a whole other world outside of the home y’all kill me
Calm down K !!!
Its not ur life.
Thats his mom 🙄
You are projecting Mr. K
The son was even defending his mother so I don’t understand why Karamo was so worked up. He was definitely projecting. The mother had every right to be concerned about his choices. Parents of straight kids are also concerned about their choices. Is she not allowed to be concerned because it come across as her being “homophobic”. Karamo doesn’t need to have this type of discussion on his show anymore because clearly it hit close to home for him.
I agree 100%. I didn’t get that she had a problem with him, just his choices and Karakoram was so dead set on defending when it didn’t apply to this specific fact. What about accountability for Luke and his choices and a young man that he calls his mom for help on. Karamo you missed the mark on this one!
Is he gay
@@Safa-gq6jmyes he is.
Facts 💯 and IAM gay
He was pushing his narrative
Karamo definitely reached to the top of the mountains on this one! Nothing he said about that mother was true An he was projecting.
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This ones am TOTALLY DISCOMBOBULATED. IF GAYISM OR LHTNJZXGXCEQ COMMUNITY IS NATURAL & GOD'S WILL WHY DO THEY HAVE 2 FIGHT TO BE? JUST AKSING🙄🤨🤔
@@robinjones7694I’m transgender and I agree with you
Nah he was completely right
He was not projecting. That woman has a problem with her child's sexuality
Karamo used his emotions and his gay status to answer the last one between mum & transgender son. It is not easy to assimilate that your baby wants to be identified as a different person/ gender. You give them time to accept but don't force them
OH GROW THE HELL UP
same person.
Agree Karamo remain neutral and listen to understand not to react!
Son isn’t transgender Luke said he identifies as a male as of now
Luke said he isn’t transgender and identifies as male for now. So mom is definitely right it’s a life style. The host is just butt hurt because he is gay and want every lgqb accepted.
Meeting your maker as your true self after changing your sex is the biggest deception I have ever heard in my life
EXACTLY!! I thought i was the only one 🤣😂
Yeah that's weird asf😳
I agree with you whole heartedly, that was very uncomfortable to hear and very dangerous for anyone to receive that in which karamo spoke.
I say let people live and whomever their maker is , we don’t know only the universe!!!!!!!!!
@@lolaloren1773 the universe, you mean the CREATOR of the universe
She was there, she just wast allowed. I love his mom. She has been handed the unfair side of justice, only to have challenges with him after 18. 🥺
How she's not owed anything, and seeing how she acts and the way she just had temper tantrum and just walked off like a child let's me see why
She had supervised visitation, why? She didn't even show up for the majority of her visitations, why? This mother is blaming others for her not being involved.
At the end, Karamo was reaching. She has a truth, too. I, too, believe he was projecting.
Yes he was projecting 100%.
Exactly thought I was the only one!!
How? Genuine question
@@ZanaPixel2060 the video is self explanatory
@@ramonanelson4251 How was he projecting?
Sometimes I agree with Karamo’s tots on certain issues but I feel he can be bias when it’s personal or concerns him. Be whoever u want to be but also don’t force people to accept ur choices… it’s a two way street!
Yes I agree
I concern for the child, so mixed up...his mother born a male respect her .Two dads? Ok
Ppl can be who they want it's there choice they have to answer to God like we all do sin is sin and it's wrong like every other sin
You also can't force people to be who you want them to be....if you don't accept their choices then leave them the hell alone don't try to enforce your lifestyle and opinions on them
@@thekalenichannel1812shut that shit up, that shit is weird asf and you know it
You have the right to live however you want but people also have the right to not agree with how you live especially if it involves them
Thank you! Yessss!!
Yes Yes
Well said 👏
You have a right to belive what you want but don't be suprised when you don't have a relationship with people when you can't accept a fundamental part of them. Same way black people don't want relationships with racists, neither do LGBT people want to have relationships with homophobic people
Hell nah. If you don't agree then you might as well walk away especially if someone is gay or trans.
Karamo was projecting his own issues on the mother. I was annoyed
He always does that I always say most of the time is advice is sooo bias! I also don’t like when he tells ppl they need to break up and then damn near force them to break up right there on the show! Granite some ppl are toxic and don’t need to be together but to force is is crazy to me! 😳😳😳
Disagree
Yeah he tends 2 do that with a lot of his guests on his show,,he likes 2 read ppl as if they are in the same boat as himself🙄✋️🤔...
@@lilblue315yes especially the heterosexual relationships there is no hope on his show just demonic confusion
What a way to treat a guest. The son is probably a risk taker and the mom is truly scared for him. Interesting how they breezed over how he picked up a guy, who has now tattooed his name on him and totalled his car. He is one of those who will have to learn the hard way, and the mom can see it and is trying to keep it from happening.
So true. He may be an adult, but he is behaving recklessly and the mom is trying to stop him before he gets in even deeper than what he already has, but he's being ( as they say in the south) hardheaded and won't listen. At 24 he thinks he is soooogrown, much MORE grown-up than his 24 years, but he STILL has a lot to learn. She MAY have messed up before, but she's trying NOW. I see Mama bear in her. I hope his hard-headed ways don't cost him dearly.
Luke seems veryyyy selfish and irresponsible!!!
The youngman/youngwoman is acting out in my opinion and is angry with his Mother and has wanted her every since his father won custody from the divorce. I pray he and his mom build a strong bond and they both get helpful counseling that will support healthy healing.
Cause Luke will call her to pick up the pieces and mom is tired.
SO WUT LIFE IZ ABOUT TAKIN RISKS, & RISK TAKERS R ALWAYZ COVERED N DA BLOOD V JESUS MOM A GROWN AZ WOMAN WHO SHOULD'VE BEEN DER N DAT CHILDS LIFE, SHE FUKD UP ALONG DA WAY & LOST CUSTODY, DEFINITELY NOT LUKES FAULT... SHE NEED 2BUCKLE DA FUK DOWN & BUILD A BETA BOND WIT HER NU DAUGHTER... POINT BLANK PERIODTTT
The mother is being a mother and I think Karamo came at her very forcefully. She knows her child is making unwise choices.
What about the mother's unwise choices? She wasn't there for her son. She lost custody for a reason. Two supervised visits per month and acts like she was a good mom. I wish Karamo would have asked why the visits were supervised. Let's get to the truth. Had the nerve to say she was always there when she wasn't. She's in denial and has no accountability. She gave on example of about the homeless guy he brought home and some of you are acting like he's made so many mistakes. News flash. A lot of LGBTQ are homeless.
She wasn't even there for her child bfr
@@TasteMyRainb0w you’re more upset about it than he was. He loves his mom and knew why THEY WOULDNT LWT HER BE THERE. calm down. it ain’t your life. it’s his and his mom and i believe she’s just being a loving mom
Facts 💯
Well like my Grandmother used to say" Every Mouth Will Confess And Every Knee Will Bow".Peace
That part
Amen.. Every Knee shall ble and every Tongue shall coffee that Mesus Christ is Lord
Joel 2:28 (KJV) And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
Amen And Amen
That Jesus Christ is Lord
This first story confused the hell out of me
Imagine what the child must be feeling
Quite confusing.... am thinking of that baby
Im confused about this one 😊
@@itsnicoletoyou5524no not really because there’s gay and trans people all in the open world and public. That boy is in denial and weak minded which is why he went n got a woman pregnant.😂
@@GodenClark So am I.
Karamo was wrong on this one! He pretty much attacked the mother. I think she's just an over bearing mom and she made some mistakes along the way. I think she was right about Karamo projecting because it made him angry. He too, is still dealing with his own issues.
Yeah I love Karamo but he jumped the gun on that one
Karamo, you missed it on this one. Luke was making bad friend choices that was affecting his mother. She was the one called and told that Luke was missing. She was the one helping him when the fake friend totaled the car! The pain is obvious. It has nothing to do with how one identifies. Parents are concerned and worry about their children. She told you Luke was/is disrespectful. Please call them back to get the whole story; I believe you can help them.
Yes I agree with you, I feel his mother accept him but it's his decisions and disrespect is why she's hurt....it's like I can see him dissing her because she wasn't always in his life ....I think she needs to leave him n let him be n just let him learn from his mistakes as he said....
Yes seems son and Karamo doesn’t have entire story of custody situation and makes me wonder why she didn’t have custody so there are a lot of pieces missing .
The host was Not 100 💯 percent fair to the mom.
I love Karamo, but this comment I agree with.
exactly he only felt like she was targeting luke is cuz she said something about the picture he had on the internet... in her eyes she treating her(luke) like a mother would treat her daughter... parent are more protective when it comes to the daughters... she was only being a parent... i remember i took a picture in my new bathing suit when i was developing and my mother told me watch what u post because its a lot of predictors out here
This is a joke…I’m sorry. Karamo is absolutely projecting & putting words in the Moms mouth. When a person says “your lifestyle” she’s speaking about the poor decisions he’s making. And then to say, he won’t allow someone to say he doesn’t know what he’s talking about, Sir, you don’t know EVERYTHING & you have to listen to others openly if you want a productive dialogue. Wanting her son to be safe in his decisions does not mean she has bias about his sexual identity. Like this was brutal to watch because you weren’t accepting the mom’s experience at all. To say she wasn’t there, when she was by LAW not allowed to be there, smh! She did what she cld with what she was given. Not to invalidate how that felt to Luke, but let’s not villainize her for what was out of her control. Don’t allow your support for your community make you blind to other people’s experiences causing you to invalidate their feelings.
Maybe I missed it. I don’t see what the mother did to disrespect her child. The guy is 18 there will be ratchet friends that a parent is supposed to sound the alarm
I think because she said “I hate you” to him and he’s 24 not 18….I mean I can see everyone having some ratchet friends but not picking random ppl up off the street lol that’s dangerous! she may feel a way about picking randoms up. 🤷🏼♀️ I would.
Agreed
This mom loves her son she didn’t seem to have a problem with his life but something else we don’t know or understand. I only know this from listening.
Koramo is too biased for me… how he treated Luke’s mom is not how a talk show host behaves, I’ve never seen a host behave that way. He was totally fine when Luke said his mom said she hated him, it wasn’t until she said he was projecting that he flipped out. He was definitely projecting because if he wasn’t he wouldn’t have reacted the way he did. As a host or an interviewer, your main focus is to keep your emotions together and he failed. This was some reality tv “The Real World” mess! He shouldn’t do topics like this if he’s going to be totally biased.
I think Karamo started getting upset because there was some miscommunication when he was trying to “educate” her. She didn’t even get to explain what was bothering her because he immediately assumed it had to be about her son being gay. And I think some parts of that are true. But I think it’s because luke’s lifestyle is unsafe. What was interesting to me is both her and the son think queerness is synonymous with being “out there”.. when that’s not the case. But at the end of the day, I see a mother who is scared of the damage her son may be doing to himself. And I see a son who desperately wants community and a healthy relationship with the people around him. I don’t think either of them really got to speak on their issues cause Karamo was stuck on some of the language being used.
His mother never said she hates him? 👀👀
Luke wanted to have peace with their mother but Karamo destroyed the opportunity by projecting his hate for straight parents on her. The word lifestyle has nothing to do with sexual orientation. It simply means the way a person is living. Am so sorry that mum had to go through that.
This is the first time that I do not agree with Karamo. Everyone has their own parenting styles and he just denied the mother's feelings. Even Luke knew his mother doesn't hate him.
Right . Lifestyle has nothing to do with one's identity . U can dislike someone's lifestyle and not dislike their identity. He was deffinitely projecting like she said
💯💯💯💯
If you don't consider straight/heterosexuality or non-trans/cis (cisgender) people to be a lifestyle, then you're proving his point. People use the word lifestyle against LGBT to denounce them. And to make it seem like it's a choice.
When people talk about the grief of coming out to someone you're close with. They feel their grief is more important than the other person's and that the person wronged them. And even then, they do not realize it takes a lot for a person to come out. There is a lot of inner turmoil within a person, especially if they're a non-white person. So, while you may not consider the word “lifestyle” offensive, know that it carries a negative meaning for the above reasons.
This was the exact comment I was looking for. I totally agree… he was wrong
I think karamo was harsh with the last case and treating her as if he was projecting what he went through
I think Karamo was projecting in the last case. He was using emotions and personal situations to make her face a truth that really may not have been hers. Perhaps he was talking to his own Mother or the people who mistreated him.
Agree
I agree very much! This mom seems like a loving mom that wants what's best for her child, Period. She stayed I. His life no matter, and I didn't see her as being judge mental!
I totally agree! I saw a loving mother who KNOWS her child’s WEAKNESS & she doesn’t want her child to fall prey to this world’s painful traps, period!
HE WAS WAY OFF!
Amen!
He may need talk show host training on how to be objective and not show bias.
When a person transitions its all about them...but what about a parent or spouse who looses that person...everyone cannot emotionaly except the change
You’re aloud to be sad that the child you thought you’d see grow up is not the version you want to see grow up. But as a mom myself you don’t have the right to disown, be so frustrated you lash out and just never listen you can’t shut your child out just because you don’t understand or agree. If you truly love them how can you walk away you have every right to communicate hey baby I hope you’re okay with me taking time to grieve the you I was thinking you were until you’ve opened up and told me who you wanna be! I’m here for you and won’t treat you any differently but just know if you catch me having a hard day I don’t hate anything you chose I’m just remembering the past a bit so I can move on faster for us! It’s NOT ABOUT YOU ANYMORE! Keep pushing kids away and see how each generation gets worse.. that’s why this new generation is so broken and trying to be so understanding because they’re parents could never sit the hell down and have a calm conversation about anything. Half of them can’t even communicate.
@@jojojohnson2000 l personally don't have any issue....im not looking for validation.....
Karamo, you are AWESOME! Please don’t ever let anyone change your formula. You are doing healing work that will transform generations of families. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽💛
FACTS he's boss I love this man style persona an SWAG
Disgusting to bnt dwn for anther man to push his dick inside anther man. Wtf.
His just as lost as the rest of them
@@Will-po2tx yes indeed spirit of confusion and think he’s right all the time
the world is sick, satan is in control, experimenting with humankind. god help those who are blind and bless those who have opened their hearts to serve him. im not perfect but what im watching is sad, i feel sorry for these men who act like women and women acting like men
Calling evil good and good evil, may the Lotd have mercy on you all.
Well said. These people make me sick. The poor child is going to be confused. She’s going to feel a void in her life. It’s not fair!
Very confused
Right! God has given them over to a reprobate mind. They do not realize it.
@@user-cu3xn4xj3i you just taught me something new ❤️
What do you expect from a gay talk show host!?
Karamo!! You do not bring personal emotions/feelings into counseling people. Why crucifying Luke's mom when she clearly stated facts about him being DISRESPECTFUL / Wrong FRIENDS pick. You never gave her room to explain how hurt it was not having Luke's custody with no room for private discussion with your own child. In Luke's case, Karamo has not been fair.
I agree with you, he was searching for something in Luke's mother that wasn't even there. He was way out of order for raising his voice at this woman. He can't be mad at people for not agreeing with him. He's a horrible councillor.
This one hit him close to home and you could tell. Usually, when he's addressing someone on other topics and it looks like he may be taking a side he starts off with a statement like 'not saying what he did was right however......' not this time. He went all in w
Thank God I am an African living in Africa cause I couldn't deal with this. All things said and done Jesus still reigns supreme
HalleluYah 🙌🏾
The internet will have you believing this is happening everywhere everyday. I live in the U.S. and I have never personally encountered this type of situation in my life.
America has really went to crap!
People are loss and follow what they see on social media.
Society paints anything that they don't understand as a threat
You attached the mother sir! You didn't let her speak much and give her side of the story! Nothing was resolved with the mother and son because you could not just be quite and just listen.
Exactly my point. I think he has something against Parents. It makes me wonder if he was abused as a child or something
He is a BULLY and he needs to be called out for being one, he wants to force his beliefs on people this man is horrific.
@@ramonanelson4251 very much so!
I felt like the mom was more concerned of his risky lifestyle not of him being gay. It didn't seem like being gay was the problem but she seemed like a parent that worries if their child is inviting people to their home and let them drive their car and implied the relationship might be going fast because of the tattoo which she is right about. She also wasn't given a chance to speak. Another point I think she might be overprotective because she wasn't able to be around while he was younger so now that she can she is trying to make up for that lost time.
Karamo was projecting because he is too close to that situation to discuss it without bias. He was rude to that mom while educating her. When the mom spoke about how disrespectful her child was at times he never addressed or acknowledged that. He was to busy defending they. Next time a straight professional marriage and family counselor should be on standby to defuse the situation and add balance. That stage wasn't diverse enough for a fair discussion.
I think the focus is that respect goes both ways. The disrespect wasn’t making her completely disrespect her child’s pronouns & transition. She was being hateful and that’s why he got so passionate
You are speaking the truth, furthermore he owes this Mom an apology, his behavior was outrageous.
He and the audience gave her the same energy she was giving. She up there talking bout we don't have all day for this and then tried to tell him he was projecting. Disrespecting the host you get what you get.
I feel bad for the baby, She is being cheated out of a mother.
That was my exact thoughts!!
@@xenxen9886 ignorance many children grow with two dads and come out normal. she isn't being robbed out of a mother just because she isn't being raised with the traditional mom and dad figure.
@Oeachky 'normal'? What does that mean? straight, cis and neurotypical?
@@mariannehavisham8323 yea normal by society's standards I should've phrased it better
He said “she was someone that I created” noww sir👀 wtf
A man is a man no matter how you refer to them....a cat called by any other name is still a CAT.
Shut up bro imagine being mad ocuz people are living a happy life
@@donellekirton8929 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I don’t think the mother was given enough grace. Many parents say and do things they regret. But her daughter acknowledged that she believes her mother loves her but said the hate statement out of anger. Her daughter may be making really risky decisions and the mother is being mother. Her saying “you and your lifestyle,” she had no clue that she was addressing it wrongly as to why she kept repeating (initially). She is trying to grow with her daughter’s identity. The effort and love is there. Let’s give this woman some credit. Food for thought.
I totally agree, and Karamo is good at what he does but he took it bad on this one.
I think it came personal to him
Thank you for your thoughts. I agree with you.
@@asiphenolambucane4540 I think you are right.
@@asiphenolambucane4540 Exactly.
Meet your maker as "You??"
Our maker makes no mistakes.
The irony of the statement 😂
Yeah our maker makes no mistakes so living as ur authentic self is not a mistake
Right
Had a problem too with this statement...just because they are confused about identity doesn't make everyone confused...we know what God did in Genesis and there ain't any advise on changing your identity...God has just given them up as the Bible says...😢😢😢
I wish the show would remain neutral and not diminishing against people's religion,beliefs and ideas over others in the name of acceptance..
Mentioning meeting your maker as your true self is crazy 🤯
Right.
I couldn’t over hear that .. smh maker maybe the crazy doctor who help them be more confused . Sir want to be you are a girl that the way the maker created you .. God have mercies according to his will ..
If someone wants to transition i say that they should be who they want to be and no one should tell them otherwise @simonephillips8420
@@simonephillips8420😂😂😂😂right
Lmao frrr
He “feels” like his mother wasn’t there even though she was 😂😂😂😂😂😂tf!
What in the world did the mother do to him to have supervised visits for YRS and otherwise not be able to contact him? Something bad had to happen.
Exactly! This is what i've been saying. No one is talking about it, though. The son tried to protect her by saying she lost custody because the father battled in court harder or something, but that's not the real reason. Supervised visits are only ordered by the courts when the parent has done something irresponsible and they do not trust that parent to be alone with the child.
This is what people are failing to mention! Losing custody is one thing, but having to have supervised visitation is wiiiild. There had to have been a reason
@@JLenox People's dislike for the LGBT community diverts their attention from more important matters. I've also noticed how supportive people can be towards parents who appear to be rejecting their children's sexual identity. In this regard, the mother is praised, adored, and defended, while the important details of why she could potentially have been a danger to her child are not explored or questioned.
I understand the boyfriends prospective. Being gay is not equivalent to self hate. I don't really care who my son is having sex with. My concern or baring comes from my son loving HIMSELF. That way he can truly love someone else.
Karamo was completely out of line with Luke’s mother. Luke is making bad decisions and disrespecting his mother and she has a right to be concerned. He was definitely projecting and Karamo did more harm than good in this situation. You can see the reluctance in the end of the show when his mom is talking to him. Karamo has that boy believing that he is right and God forbid he keeps making poor decisions and something ends up happening to him. She was wrong for saying I hate you, but I definitely don’t think it’s because he’s gay. It has everything to do with him being disrespectful.
Right!!
The words “I hate you” will never come out of my mouth toward my child. This is my truth. Just like i don’t understand things about LGBTQIA community, I don’t understand a parent saying that. I’m not required to understand everything.
Agree
The mother was not treated fairly.
Karamo is really out here showing people how to love and be loved. I appreciate the care package and the I love yous expressed to Ja'mar! It made my heart smile.
Ugn not f'cking at all that is him mother wtf
Im gonna be honest as someone that experiences dsyphoria (the psychological term for hating your biological female body parts/attributes) as a female (transmale whatever you want to call it), I would never want to be pregnant that is the most feminine/womenly thing someone can do. Not only that but show pictures of my pregnant female body online, I know people experience dysphoria differently but I can`t act like that is normal or a male thing to do.
You can't force someone to accept your decision on gay matters cause one needs time to let everything sink in ,we are all entitled to our own choices let's not sugar coat things its never easy to understand or accept especially for people who are raised on different environment and made to believe some things are a taboo.
NO ONE is MADE to believe anything. Beliefs CAN be changed.
it’s not for u to “understand” or even “accept”. its not ur life therefore it’s not ur place to judge. n if u r religious then uk that’s only gods place to judge. someone being gay has nothing to do with ur day to day life 😂 people are people..gay or not. mind ur business n give the love u wish to receive. that’s it that’s all.
We not letting anything sink in.. And the nature's law is on our side.. We don't tolerate BS
Hell nah. Being gay or trans is not a lifestyle. But I don't live for you straight folks. Until you quit the bullshit. We gays and straight will never have peace
@@papakings7197we don't tolerate straight bullshit. Mind your damn business when it comes to us gay and trans folks. And nature is also on our side.
If he is a gay man, where did the interest in Lacresha come from? Is he actually a bi-man? All the best to them, especially as the birth mom deals with the very serious health crisis. May their innocent baby daughter NOT be too confused and tormented by all of this. It is ALL very confusing imo.
Respectfully an ex is an ex for a reason..
Y'all can be cordial and co-parent..
Never allow someone to dictate what the outcome of your life is to become...
Be yourself and allow yourself to grow and prosper...
I pray he finds peace within and love himself first and everything else will fall in place..,
Big Freda and that wig is wild 😳 she has way too much money to be coming on tv with that wild looking wig 😂😂😂
Luke's mother is concerned about his well-being. The host of this show is definitely projecting.
No, he's not. He was explaining how there's something within her in why she says I hate you to her son. That's when she said he was projecting, which makes no sense. She literally says that to her son and then tried to say it's not because he's gay as if that makes it justified.
@@TasteMyRainb0wyea he is
@@TasteMyRainb0wshe said in no way am I trying to justify what I said ,yes I was wrong. But it was because disrespect to her. If your son gay or not picked up a homeless person, flew them out, and the homeless person got a big tattoo wotht he sons name on it I would be concerned as well and would actually think drugs were involved.
Don't force anyone to accept you if they have their own beliefs. Give them time. If you are never accepted, love yourself. This forum totally disrespected the mom.
No one disrespected her. They gave her the same energy she was giving. She was rude and smug when she has no reason to be. Talkin bout we don't have all day as if she's running the show. Tried to come for Karamo telling him that he's projecting as if she knows him lol Girl bye.
you don’t have to accept anyone unless it is your child. that’s her child she doesn’t get a choice. beliefs aside she brought a human into this world and that’s her job.
Karamo was wrong as hell
Myasthenia gravis is really no joke. I’m glad you made through.
My mom had that after she had me back in 99
So proud of you Karamo! You've come a long way from the person on Real World. You have a great platform. Love ur attitude
That kid will be the most confused kid on earth. The father is a woman and the momma is man😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Karamo didn’t have to come at that mother like that 😡
Karamo has been turned over to reprobate mind....so so sad....he don't even know it.
He was wrong....
Karamo is projecting!!!
I am watching this show from South Africa, I am a straight man. and I promise you the worst thing we always do as humans is to judge others.
Jaymar just needs a friend who's a fashionista for guys so he can look just as good as he did as Lucrezia😊
KARAMO OVERSTEPPED. THE MOTHER DIDN'T SAY THAT SHE HATED HER SON WHILE THEY WERE ON THE STAGE.
"As a gay man, I don't understand how you don't understand me." Because he never had a kitty cat. He doesn't run on XX chromosomal operating system. He's attracted to men, but he can't understand a woman turning into a man. That's it. I hope baby girl turn out okay.
At the end of the day, without LOVE nothing is possible!!!!
We will keep on praying for this world.
I met a man in college and we became really close. At some point he told me about SA as a child and it left him unable to be physical. Boy did I love him. He treated me so well. We officially dated after college but we did no more than kiss . I realized he’d be the most affectionate around others or at parties etc. It felt very performative and I realized I was a beard. I don’t think he was gay but he like to present an image to others that wasn’t extended to our private interactions. I went on to marry and have a kid. We are still friends but he’s never admitted any of this to me. He’s over 50 now and I pray he finds happiness.
I feel so bad for people who go through this I was lucky enough to have a bd that accept me being a gay woman and trust me raising my son hope it gets better for him
“You will never disrespect a child” Yea that part threw me
Ikr? 🤔
How about respecting your parents. What an upside down world we live in!!
He triggered because he’s gay
thats what i was thinking too, he being biased asf cuz its lgbtq
Exactly. Her son is wild and promiscuous. She's concerned for his safety. Also, the daddy raised him, and he ended up in a dress. So if the mom had raised him and he ended up in a dress, it would be because the dad wasn't there. What is it now? He wants to fill the void of mom's absence by becoming her?
Or maybe he’s just triggered by low IQ, ignorant people
THIS IS VERY SIMPLE!! BOTTOM LINE YOU ACCEPT THE WAY GOD MADE YOU!! IF YOU CAME OUT A FEMALE THAT IS THE WAY GOD MADE YOU! IF YOU CAME OUT AS A MALE THAT IS THE WAY GOD MADE YOU! YOU ACCEPT YOURSELF THE WAY GOD MADE, AND CREATED YOU!
Jaymar is so sweet 😢❤
Fiery time knowing big frida. I love him!!! More love is needed in this world
Karamo should not be hard on parents cause it's not easy to accept you child from being a boy to a woman or vice versa
It's not easy to be a parent but when you become one you are signing up to accept your child no matter what. If not then you are not their parent.
Sure!
So sad
Shame on him for how he treated that woman.
I love this show soooo bad !!!! The host is so refreshing so loving I just really enjoy this show so much !
He keeps saying child like if he’s 8-12 that is a grown ass man
Why did I just now find out about this show? Omggggg I’ve been watching each old episode for 2 days now to catch up. ❤❤❤❤❤loveeeeeeeee it
This was me a month ago!
Same Just found out about it last night
I feel sorry for the daughter 🥺 how confused she will be
My thoughts, exactly!!! Poor baby…😢
I can Imagine the poor girl,I like koramo the he helps relationships but only when it come to is where I don't like
I was so worried about confusing my nieces and nephews when I came out but that didn't happen. I am androgynous, so when I went home for the holidays, they asked this once "are you a girl or boy?" I simply explained to them what I identify as and they've been running with that since. They are not confused and neither are their friends. I realised in my coming out that kids don't really care. They will ask questions out of curiosity, yes but they understand once they have answers to those questions. They're truly much more understanding than we think
She is a child, she doesn't understand things on the level that you're JUDGING her situation to be. Feel sorry for your own confusion.
@@deliciapowell2123 Her chance of growing up healthy and happy are the same as any other child. Feel sorry for your own ignorant thoughts.
If everyone respected each other's wishes the world would be a better place. God is the judge not us.
This is the problem 38min in this man tried to correct a mother and what she feels! She said you and ur life style and he tried to talk at her and what else is next lock the mom up talkin about u can't say u & ur lifestyle! So should she say u and ur life choices? Or she can't say that either! Please get a place and stay in it! Sir
You can’t force someone to approve of your choices everyone has free will
It's not a choice to be trans.
You can not like it but it's not a choice to just *be* something.
Wish yall would drop this lie.
This world needs Jesus Christ so badly 😢😢
You do also
Ikr world 🌎 is going insane I mean men changing into women and women changing into men and then I barely see the American flag 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 in America 🇺🇸
Mostly america sad to say
@@Panic_music_xo when they said the world aren't all of us in the world ? Duuuh
Mother is correct be a man
This is madness of the highest level...here in kenya we dont condone this shit ,end times are near ,this karamo tho😮😮
I hope he apologised to that mother 😑
I think Karamo got it wrong with the last family. He was taking her words out of context
I don't want to be rude but the 1st case is effed up : Damian who identifies as a gay man was dating a woman, yet when said woman transitioned to be a man, he's still not happy and wants "her" back?? as difficult as life is why would you add complexity to it ?
Exactly
They have a child, he can be gay all he wants just like she can but it's difficult when u know someone as who they are then one day poof I'm a man that wud mess my head all the way up. They're both selfish stop having kids knowing that ur gonna fuck them up. One day mommy was a woman now she's a man oh no. I have a father I don't want my mom to take on that role, then who am I gonna feel comfortable going to for advice not my dad-mom. This is how outside influence gets in with children.
I agree. I often wonder that. Why make things- ANYTHING in life harder than it has to be. The reality is this is hard with Damian and his mate because of their choices. It will likely be hardest on their daughter. It became hard right from the start when Damian being gay, impregnated Lacresha, and when Lacresha ALLOWED a gay man to impregnate her, knowing he sleeps w/ other men. They should have made smarter choices from the start. There were clear opportunities for that to happen if not on day one, CERTAINLY when it came time to be intimate.They should really have been more mindful and safer. Now there is a child in the middle of confusion.
Karamo, ur right about many things u said but u were also definitely projecting about some things. She couldn’t get a word in. That was a lot.
I don’t think the dude is experiencing internal homophobia he knows what he want and thats that
YOUR MOTHER IS CRAZY!😮 MR FREADA!🙏😇👀🤔🔥
Let me just say this! being gay bi les or trans is not a choice. people of that sexuality are born that way
I’m a mom of 4 . My oldest is about to be 7! And I’ve already decided that even when they are grown im going to be in their business LOL … it doesn’t matter how grown they get, they will ALWAYS be MY BABIES! so until the end of time im going to show up as mama bear ! If I feel like their friends aren’t healthy im going to let them know that . If I feel like something their doing is wrong , im going to let them know that. However something I’ll never do is not accept ones true self . The mom wasn’t wrong at all. She’s just concerned . Karamo wasn’t as harsh as some of you are making it seem. He just wanted to educate her . Now when it comes to LUKE … I can tell he is a hand full. Which is why mom is worried about his “lifestyle” .. and when mom says lifestyle she’s not talking about him being gay because she ACCEPTS HIM. she’s talking about HIM AS A WHOLE. Even if he wasn’t gay she’d still be worried .
You have definitely won a piece of my heart 💜 you’ve become one of my absolute favorites and I respect your point of view 💘💞🥰😘
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