Have exactly the same issue with the Weber and I only use at home pulling no more than 5 shots a day, and I am pretty careful, it’s almost impossible not to catch the needles at some point putting it back in the base and the proprietary needle sizes make constant replacement a non option.
I am looking at one of these and Prior to watching this video I had messaged them and did mention that in my opinion the “ other “ one leaves the needles extremely vulnerable whether that be at home or cafe due to the exposed needles and the base. The design team with this have factored this in with what I am calling “ the Wolverine principle “ ie retractable needles, I think this was a massive design oversight and why I would put this in much higher regard. No I haven’t tried it but from a common sense design outlook it’s a no brainier this looks so much more efficient and robust. Great video 👍🏻
Spot on. I got a MoonRaker for home before your MoonRaker video dropped. I am a 20+ year home barista. I just want simplicity, consistency, and ease of use. I am not using a refractometer, just my taste buds. I have gone from first tool runs of OCD to Londinium WDT to SworkDesign WDT, to now MoonRaker. None really fit the bill. I am lazy, but know how important WDT is. I am disappointed with bent needles. When I watched your MoonRaker video for the cafe, I was hopeful, but knew it would never work out on bar. I personally am not going to spend the money on the BH, but agree with you 100%.
You avoided your own question...? Couldn't you just not use the base??? I am planning on creating my own base that doesn't have the sponge inside. I can clean the needles myself. I don't need them to be cleaned after every use.. I also don't like the massive microscope looking Autocomb.. Looks a bit silly don't you think?
I disagree. I has plenty 'Bang for the Buck' for me. In Life, ANYTHING you usr EVERYDAY, not to mention 4, 5, 6 times a day is worth extra money if it is important and does a good job. Most Reviewers on this product feel that it is very important, essential to a great Espresso. So Yes, cheap at this price
I have an Autocomb preordered and stoked for it to arrive! hopefully it ships soon. Thanks for the review. That being said, I have been using the moonraker for a while and haven’t had the issue you ran into. I’m pretty casual putting it back on the base and my needles are still straight. I don’t understand how those needles got so bent unless you are side-swiping the base every time you put it back.
The main problem I’m referencing is the use of the Moonraker when pulling 50-100 shots per hour with a cafe crew using it in a commercial setting. It’s a fine lab toy in my opinion, just not great when used during a rush/when it’s a lot harder to be casual. Thanks for watching
China will make it cheaper on aliexpress, temu, amd amazon for less than $30. SOLD. Coffee nerds needs to stop wasting amd i mean wasting their money on so much coffee BS. Spend it on your beans, not your toys
@@ilkzode1822 I already spend it on my beans. This is just another step to making better coffee or having a better workflow. An advantage of this design is for those that sometimes or regularly use paper filters in the base of their portafilter. With this design you can set the needle depth so that it doesn't puncture or disrupt the paper but still goes as deep as possible.
Dream on. Moonraker is so much better. You must have Parkinson’s if you bent the needles. Seriously, I’ve had mine for months and the needles are perfect.
Honestly the condition of the Moonraker is astonishingly bad, I really hope that Weber would have thought about this and made the base taller to ensure that something as simple as bending the needles wouldn't be an issue
Autocomb has arrived. BEFORE doing anthing scan the QR code and watch the video segment on how to handle before doing anything. My enthusiasm to "play" has led me to replacing a needle aleady. Quicker you pick up using thumb and finger to holdit correctly the better. 10 mins of holding and attaching to portafilter. Then i went to adjust the height. Very easy.
Appreciate your honest review. Weber unfortunately seems too Marketing heavy to become deeply invested into new releases of them. Looking at what they did with the Key grinder and it’s just released v2. Funnily when they released v1, it was the ultimate conical grinder for home and never accepted all the claims that were then tackled with v2.
Weber makes some beautiful products but the prices... are just absurd for a lot of their products and in some cases, aren't exactly the best designs either.
I just got mine today! I haven't used it yet, but I I'm curious if could take a look in the lab and see if there are any channeling issues due to no spiral gears on the autocomb. You don't have to do a video, but I would love to see what you come up with! I am taking mine to the shop tomorrow.
The needles really look like guitar strings to me. I made one from a cork and a thicker plain guitar string, cost me like $0 (the wine was gonna get drunk, the guitar had to be restrung) Am tempted by the Comb though, cause who doesn't like a nice piece of kit? Thanks for doing these reviews, seems like Hoffman really dropped the ball on these!
If Hoffman didn't review these, its because he seems to not qant to promote these expensive stuff when a simple WDT does a similar or better job. Just a bit more work.
Lance just proved that all these tools are obsolete. Now, like the good little trendmongers y’all are, run out and spend $78 plus $35 shipping on the Weber blind shaker he’s currently touting
yea was kinda curious about it and added that thing in the cart, then I screamed GTFO! when I saw that shipping cost.. I feel like the universe tried to tell me not to have anything do with this company
It’s good! The needles definitely aren’t indestructible, but in comparison to the Moonraker, it is incredibly durable. We have replaced needles on each one time so far.
Not snake oil for high volume use, especially if you use paper filters in the base of the basket for certain extractions. Depth control and workflow in these situations are great.
Got mine a few days ago and for the love of god I cannot get a single shot without an insane amount of channeling. I tried every trick in the Barista Hustle Quickstart Guide video and nothing works. I had the same experience years ago when I bought the DUOMO which sits in a box somewhere. When I am done with the rotations the coffee bed looks super even and beautiful just like in this video, but during extraction I get 3 to 4 streams that never converge. I have tried VST, IMS and Pullman baskets. No, I am not overdosing or going too fast with the rotations. I have tried different needle heights, but nothing seems make a difference. Thats $200 down the drain just like the DUOMO.
@@jeffmattel7867 Try tapping on the counter gently after completing your AutoComb "rake". Your grind may be more clumped than usual from environmental conditions and this will help settle the troughs.
@@hepteropterix Latest accepted wisdom? What? Looking at the bottom of a naked portafilter has always been one of the main visual cues when it comes to channeling. The fact that you believe that nonsense means I dont want any input from you. bye.
Have exactly the same issue with the Weber and I only use at home pulling no more than 5 shots a day, and I am pretty careful, it’s almost impossible not to catch the needles at some point putting it back in the base and the proprietary needle sizes make constant replacement a non option.
What we really need is a fully automated wdt and tamper with integrated funnel
I was about to mention this.
We need it automated, grind WDT, tamp. Done.
I am looking at one of these and Prior to watching this video I had messaged them and did mention that in my opinion the “ other “ one leaves the needles extremely vulnerable whether that be at home or cafe due to the exposed needles and the base. The design team with this have factored this in with what I am calling “ the Wolverine principle “ ie retractable needles, I think this was a massive design oversight and why I would put this in much higher regard. No I haven’t tried it but from a common sense design outlook it’s a no brainier this looks so much more efficient and robust. Great video 👍🏻
Spot on. I got a MoonRaker for home before your MoonRaker video dropped. I am a 20+ year home barista. I just want simplicity, consistency, and ease of use. I am not using a refractometer, just my taste buds. I have gone from first tool runs of OCD to Londinium WDT to SworkDesign WDT, to now MoonRaker. None really fit the bill. I am lazy, but know how important WDT is. I am disappointed with bent needles. When I watched your MoonRaker video for the cafe, I was hopeful, but knew it would never work out on bar. I personally am not going to spend the money on the BH, but agree with you 100%.
Subbed, awesome review on this and the Moonraker.
You avoided your own question...?
Couldn't you just not use the base??? I am planning on creating my own base that doesn't have the sponge inside.
I can clean the needles myself. I don't need them to be cleaned after every use..
I also don't like the massive microscope looking Autocomb..
Looks a bit silly don't you think?
Adjustable depth is great though as not all baskets are the same
When are you gonna get yourself a Weber BIRD?!?!?!?
I’ll stick with my Pulsar for now, but maybe someday 🤷🏻♂️
Am I the only one that finds the autocomb bulky and ugly
I disagree. I has plenty 'Bang for the Buck' for me. In Life, ANYTHING you usr EVERYDAY, not to mention 4, 5, 6 times a day is worth extra money if it is important and does a good job. Most Reviewers on this product feel that it is very important, essential to a great Espresso. So Yes, cheap at this price
I just bought the aro one at £60. Let's see how it goes.
I only wish we could remove all 'game changer' comments from all TH-cam videos 😂
It cannot be good, it only costs 200€... Nothing THAT cheap can be good...
Can you check 3d printed option ? That called umikot its similar to weber one .
I trusted Matt Perger too. Until he promoted the "nutating tamp".
did you do any EY tests? even if you dont posts all the details... did you observe similar to the moonraker, in terms of an increase?
I have an Autocomb preordered and stoked for it to arrive! hopefully it ships soon. Thanks for the review. That being said, I have been using the moonraker for a while and haven’t had the issue you ran into. I’m pretty casual putting it back on the base and my needles are still straight. I don’t understand how those needles got so bent unless you are side-swiping the base every time you put it back.
The main problem I’m referencing is the use of the Moonraker when pulling 50-100 shots per hour with a cafe crew using it in a commercial setting. It’s a fine lab toy in my opinion, just not great when used during a rush/when it’s a lot harder to be casual. Thanks for watching
AutoComb Batch 2 arrived today in Germany.
@@rileywestbrookah makes sense. My autocomb shipped today!
I have bent needles on my MR all the time (not as bad as he showed).You are much more alert in the morning than I am.
$200 for a mechanical spinning needle tool ??? what's the profit margin on that, 95% ....... This shouldn't sell for more than $40
Disrupt it and sell it for $50 then brother
China will make it cheaper on aliexpress, temu, amd amazon for less than $30. SOLD. Coffee nerds needs to stop wasting amd i mean wasting their money on so much coffee BS. Spend it on your beans, not your toys
@@ilkzode1822 they already do th-cam.com/video/D9_y7SQHeU0/w-d-xo.html
R&D is expensive. There is already a similar cheaper product out of china.
@@ilkzode1822 I already spend it on my beans. This is just another step to making better coffee or having a better workflow. An advantage of this design is for those that sometimes or regularly use paper filters in the base of their portafilter. With this design you can set the needle depth so that it doesn't puncture or disrupt the paper but still goes as deep as possible.
Dream on. Moonraker is so much better.
You must have Parkinson’s if you bent the needles. Seriously, I’ve had mine for months and the needles are perfect.
So happy for you bud
Iv'e used the moonraker against the Ikape wdt which is similar to the product here and the moonraker is not any better.
Honestly the condition of the Moonraker is astonishingly bad, I really hope that Weber would have thought about this and made the base taller to ensure that something as simple as bending the needles wouldn't be an issue
Autocomb has arrived.
BEFORE doing anthing scan the QR code and watch the video segment on how to handle before doing anything. My enthusiasm to "play" has led me to replacing a needle aleady. Quicker you pick up using thumb and finger to holdit correctly the better. 10 mins of holding and attaching to portafilter. Then i went to adjust the height. Very easy.
Appreciate your honest review.
Weber unfortunately seems too Marketing heavy to become deeply invested into new releases of them. Looking at what they did with the Key grinder and it’s just released v2. Funnily when they released v1, it was the ultimate conical grinder for home and never accepted all the claims that were then tackled with v2.
Weber makes some beautiful products but the prices... are just absurd for a lot of their products and in some cases, aren't exactly the best designs either.
i agree, absurd prices
@@stopthecap2644
Good Content, thanks. The music is kinda annoying, especially when watching on a good hifi system.
I just got mine today! I haven't used it yet, but I I'm curious if could take a look in the lab and see if there are any channeling issues due to no spiral gears on the autocomb. You don't have to do a video, but I would love to see what you come up with! I am taking mine to the shop tomorrow.
LAB TOYS, that is perfect figure of speech for Moonraker.
solid! stoked for ours to arrive
Thank you kindly. The shop owner working the tools gives best feed back. Thank you.
It needs a servo motor and a stand with an automated process.
2 ears only is down for me. my machine is 58 but 3 ears. Sigh
Been using one a few days now and love how I can distribute before I'm losing those volatile aromas. IMO it upped my espresso game.
I need a 51.6mm AutoComb for my La Pavoni!
The needles really look like guitar strings to me. I made one from a cork and a thicker plain guitar string, cost me like $0 (the wine was gonna get drunk, the guitar had to be restrung)
Am tempted by the Comb though, cause who doesn't like a nice piece of kit?
Thanks for doing these reviews, seems like Hoffman really dropped the ball on these!
If Hoffman didn't review these, its because he seems to not qant to promote these expensive stuff when a simple WDT does a similar or better job. Just a bit more work.
I want to see a ceramic v60 mugen review.
Great stuff man, keep it up!
Lance just proved that all these tools are obsolete. Now, like the good little trendmongers y’all are, run out and spend $78 plus $35 shipping on the Weber blind shaker he’s currently touting
yea was kinda curious about it and added that thing in the cart, then I screamed GTFO! when I saw that shipping cost.. I feel like the universe tried to tell me not to have anything do with this company
I get better results shaking and then using a similar device to this one. I made my own blind shaker.
Decatur representing
Durability update ?
It’s good! The needles definitely aren’t indestructible, but in comparison to the Moonraker, it is incredibly durable. We have replaced needles on each one time so far.
Mines arriving tomorrow!!!!
Nice! Report back with your thoughts 😊
I may make a video jajajajajajaja
Snake oil!! Just buy one for a few dollars and buy something of actual value with the rest of your money.
How is this snake oil? It’s made for cafe use - quick and robust. Not really alternatives on the market just yet.
The "few dollars" option clearly isn't viable for high volume cafes or you'd see them everywhere, but ok.
Not snake oil for high volume use, especially if you use paper filters in the base of the basket for certain extractions. Depth control and workflow in these situations are great.
Got mine a few days ago and for the love of god I cannot get a single shot without an insane amount of channeling. I tried every trick in the Barista Hustle Quickstart Guide video and nothing works. I had the same experience years ago when I bought the DUOMO which sits in a box somewhere. When I am done with the rotations the coffee bed looks super even and beautiful just like in this video, but during extraction I get 3 to 4 streams that never converge. I have tried VST, IMS and Pullman baskets. No, I am not overdosing or going too fast with the rotations. I have tried different needle heights, but nothing seems make a difference. Thats $200 down the drain just like the DUOMO.
Have you tried a paper filter @ bottom?
What machine are you using?
@@baselsalam Profitec 700 and Niche Zero. I shouldnt have to use a paper filter to get a descent shot.
@@jeffmattel7867 Try tapping on the counter gently after completing your AutoComb "rake". Your grind may be more clumped than usual from environmental conditions and this will help settle the troughs.
@@jeffmattel7867 Maybe old beans, try changing bean supplier
@@hepteropterix Latest accepted wisdom? What? Looking at the bottom of a naked portafilter has always been one of the main visual cues when it comes to channeling. The fact that you believe that nonsense means I dont want any input from you. bye.