Jim Cornette Reviews MJF at AEW's Double Or Nothing Media Scrum
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 มิ.ย. 2023
- From Episode 296 of the Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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Brian said it best, "There's a real disconnect between fans in the bubble and fans in reality." AEW, Tony, his wrestlers, and their fans have all created this bubble that they live in and they don't want to admit that anything is wrong.
Honestly, the IWC have become unbearable in the last couple of years and most definitely since the inception of AEW.
Most will ignore the fact that AEW has pulled some of the same garbage (if not more so) that the WWE has pulled simply because their favorite wrestlers are on there doing their thing.
Add in some of the latest injuries and its a fair assessment to make that their management doesn't keep a tight leash on what should and should not be done but that won't stop these fools from constantly crapping all over the WWE even though they currently have the best storyline going right now that hasn't been seen in years.
And I ask all you AEW marks, what storyline does the company have that pulls people in besides the superkick acrobats vs masochistic brain damaged crew?
That's right, none.
Been like that since day 1 with AEW fans, Tony is the biggest culprit and cant handle criticism.
Bryan last is a mf from Sony who gives a fuck
Trump
@@ChaseNada they abused and ran to the ground the phrase "bad faith" every time someone would make an objective criticism of aew.
And they play the victim card after they constantly bring up wwe.
It's pathetic.
We need a 3 hour sit down with Jim and MJF
That I'd pay for.
Just to hear Jim's reaction to MJF beating him to the "Thank you Fuck you Bye."
@@ColinPeddicordlmao 😂 yes
Better content than any PPV from AEW OR PLE from WWE
I’d definitely pay for that
MJF must love these because he gets to roast Tony under the guise of kayfabe. He’s telling truth through the character.
That’s why he’s so over. He’s always “in character”, yet everything he says is at least believable if not 100% true.
@@zlinedavid He's not over. He's not a draw. His promos are cheap, profanity laced quasi shoots that don't build any story and don't lead to any money-making feuds. Jake Roberts could whisper for 90 seconds without any profanity and sell thousands of tickets.
@@ts9332 What the fuck did Jake sell. Tell me which show he headlined that sold off his promo lol
@SplitGoose I love Jake and he was a great promo, but MJF is really damn good at this shit. I don't recall Jake selling much, tbh. Ok, maybe the Heroes of Wrestling PPV. ;)
Most heels speak the truth.
That's why I loved Punk when he was a heel hating om WWE and hated his post MITB 2011 run.
Same goes for Jericho's 2010 gimmick and Bret's 97 heel run.
Tk:Yuta was the only 1 not to bleed. Mjf "wow congrats" that shit had me dying
You know Yuta regrets not bleeding. Probably feels like he failed his favorite plumber.
He has to stand out somehow 🤷🏽♂️
Would have been better if he said "he didn't bleed in that multiman match? He really is useless"
Even when MJF is working it, he's telling it straight.
I wonder if some of it is too straight - there is a fine line between building heat and undermining credibility. The little shot at Orange Cassidy being a mark may not lead to anything, but might cause some of the audience to realise just how stupid Cassidy is. Although maybe that is the point on that barb, to try and diminish the chances of being put in a match with that moron...
😂 I love it
Best advice not to risk health for spots. But World Champ should wrestle more
I think he wrestles the right amount. I think he needs to continue to be present on TV, but I dont think he should be wrestling more. Just PPVs
He's being phony
I love that even when he’s trying to give advice on work rate and gimmicks he still maintains a level of kayfabe. He never openly admits to a work but still tries to play into the marks that just expose everything.
I think aew is doing a good job on how terrible it is already. They will always be stagnant
MJF was at his best at the scrum. He was saying things in gimmick, but everything he said was true, and I believe he meant it. He just said what he wanted to say through his character. It was great.
That's not an easy thing to pull off because it's his confidence and quick thinking.
"MJF has heat even with those people" - Jim Cornette
Jim’s shut up Tony had me dying 😂😂😂😂😂
Imagine A Magician Doing A Press Conference To Explain How He Did The "Illusions" In His Act 🥴
Exactly
Penn and Teller might actually do that. Except they would deliberately design all the tricks to be done in the most elaborate way possible, and then reveal them (they've actually done this exact thing in their act).
They dont actually ever reveal the real method. Even when they do the cups and balls, with clear plastic cups, they aren't really giving away the method.
These wrestlers could learn a thing or two about protecting your profession...
"You think I want to roll around in all that mid blood?" 😂
"Mid-blood" = priceless lol
Sounds like a blood disease
@@ColinPeddicord carried and transmitted only by mid carders lol.
@@doubledave7451 So, do you use a cream or some pills to treat that problem? Does my health insurance cover the treatment?
@@ColinPeddicord just stay away from mid card talent and you should be ok. Theyre easy to spot: about 150 lbs and they slap their thighs a lot.
@@doubledave7451 I hear they also mark terms like “rest hold”.
Corny is right. These scrums exist because it's part of Khan's wrasslin' role play fantasy. The dude collects indie wrasslers like action figures and this is how he plays with them.
He wants these mark podcasters and wannabe journalists to lob him softball questions and tell him how great he is and how great he's doing
Is there a worse "authority figure" in wrestling history? Why is he even out there? (We know why he's out there, of course, but in the "world" of the promotion it's ridiculous.)
I love the scrums…so honestly fuck it
@@manuelchavarria Becouse it is his personal press conference gimmick so he could live in delusion of "booker of the year appreciation award winner".
He invite Meltzers and smart marks slef-made wrestling journalists that gonna put him over anyway so he could be in his "happy land" without evil of constructive criticism, hard hitting questioins or any type of pressure for a while.
@@Tikthra but where's the lie?
It finally hit me watching the scrum that Tony is the Michael Scott of pro wrestling. One HUNDRED percent.
At least Michael Scott was funny
The best part of AEW ppv's is the MJF media scrum, so save your money and just watch that for free.
Facts don't gotta sit for 10hrs lmao
The fact that TK sadly nodded in agreement when MJF called him a limp dick... just goes to show how seemingly desperate Tony is to appease his rented toys.
This is just an observation, not a fact.
You guys hit the nail on the head! These guys aren't journalists they're fans, they geek out every single time these "wrestlers" enter the room
They’re marks who are paid to write articles that are only read by other marks.
Now that I think about it, it’s just another internet echo chamber.
Cornette geeks out when another man enters the bedroom with his wife
@@conquest1075 what a lame insult
@@conquest1075 Womp womp.
@conquest1075 AEW marks alert. Hey kid, get a life and stop sucking Tony. He aren't inviting you to his birthday party and leaving your house basement and find a decent job
This would be soo much more effective if he was actually booed
Lol people are always remiss to acknowledge that.
A very underrated take. I completely agree.
The media scrum just made me realize that sadly Danielson is a mark..and hee doesn't care about producing a good show and just wants to have fun with his friends.
That’s always been the case about him
If he had been smart, he'd have stayed in WWE.
He'd have been in a controlled environment, where people would have been looking after his health and booking.
@@Bale4Bond yea...he's like roman, rock, dean, cody, etc...they need someone to guide them(nothing wrong with that)
@@carlms9753 I wouldn't mention The Rock and Roman Reigns in the same sentence with these other guys.
I think Danielson is too unselfish for his own good and that's why he will be as good as he coud be becouse ego is two-edged sword, too much of it in your work can be detrimential to others but lack of it stop you from getting your true potencial.
He get so happy that he came back from carrer ending injury and love bussiness so much that he became people pleaser that just love to work as long as he's involved in some shit. He's role in WWE became so stale and there wasn't much else he could do he hasn't done already so he join AEW to challange himself to put over whatever they gave him becouse that's his mindset.
This is why the scrums don’t work…MJF stays in character and Brian Danielson is talking about how they let wheeler Yuta get the pin…
This was the first press scrum I know of that they never mentioned gate or ppv buyrates
MJF needs to crash “Collision” and say Punk got demoted to the “C SHOW”.
Lol that’s rampage. And I feel like depending on the crowd, Punk would force MJF to be a baby face considering the heat that Punk has with that audience. So idk if they wanna go down that road
@@Spinelli_Blues it's real, I've stopped watching Steve and Larson because of it.
@@Spinelli_Blues it’s not delusional jack off go listen to the crowd when they announced his name, half were cheering and half were booing. So it’s better if he beats them to the punch (with the acceptation of CHI)
That would actually be brilliant...completely filp the expectations on its head...everyone expects punk to be on Collision and now it's confirmed...everyone expects Punk to one day challenge MJF at some point ...why not have the open or Collision be.. Punk comes out ..he's drinking in the crowd reaction.....then MJF comes out and berates him and walks off
@@MrToken98 Steve Here and Larson hate Punk? Damn
MJF needs to curse less, like yeah his character is good, but being able to get his message across without saying fuck every 10 seconds is a lot more powerful
I think cursing every 5 seconds is part of what makes him come off as an *sshole, it makes you think that MJF is a champion who thinks he's so big time he can do whatever he wants in front of the boss Tony Khan
Agreed...it cheapens him and it's what's going to set him apart from the legends.
@@InfernoCarson3619 Not really, as a grown adult, hearing cursing doesn’t make me believe you’re a badass or any of the sort. We curse daily, nothing special.
100% agree
You should of seen when AEW tried to get jay white to replace mjf. White cursed so much that it was off putting like the dude that didn't graduate middle school and that's the guy they wanted
Wait. Has MJF EVER been in the same ring as the bucks or omega??? I feel either mjf doesnt want to stoop to their level..or omega n the bucks dont want to get eviscerated by mjf on the mic because theyd have zero response
Correct on both counts.
And….MJF doesn’t need them.
Agree with all of that....the EVPs exist in their own realm with their own roster...their own hand picked opponents ....I do not think MJF ever needs to stoop to their level and have a match with any of those people..although I could see AEW spinning the narrative of Omega becoming a challenger for the AEW world title. .Omega vs MJF on ppv or one of their tv specials...I wouldn't mind it
Sadly, the bucks threw him into a pool when he was beefing with Cody, and its one of the few bad MJF moments (surprise)
MJF came in under Cody who's storylines never crossed with the Elite. Also he never mentions his Jericho feud and I think has at least once mentioned being held down with that feud for a year. So I think he's made clear he doesn't wanna work with them.
"If there is a matchup that should have happened but hasn't happened it's because of that. Done."
I think he is referring to the EVPs etc. No Adam Page etc. No Plumber Moxley best of 3.
The F bombs would be a lot more impactful if they weren’t every other word he used lmao
It’s embarrassing
To be fair he's always on TV and limited on what's allowed. He gets 10-20 mins after each ppv to let it all out lol
The Schmo is the best gimmick going in press conferences today!
'Cody Rhodes, Wardlow, CM Punk, Danielson and that's just to name a few' - No, that's all of them.
Travis at it again, love the artwork!
He's the best👏🏾👏🏾
Why would i wanna roll around in moxleys blood 😂
When the microphone falls and Mjf says to Tony “just like your limp dick” I was in tears. Imagine mjf saying that to Vince McMahon haha.
He'd be future endeavored lol
Vinny Mac still had those grapefruits after all these years, who else would show back up to run the show knowing you’re just tanking the product
Yeah, made it on the podcast. Pretty cool. Thanks to Brian and Jim for playing the audio! Feel free to check us out and we'd be thrilled to have Jim and Brian on the show sometime!
Nice dude
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This 4 way was not the best 4 way match
1. Kurt Angle vs Krispenwah vs Eddie Guerrero vs Edge
2. HBK vs Edge vs Cena vs Orton
Bret, Austin,taker,Vader.
Joe/Brock/Braun/Roman
While i like da Pillars none of them r on any da guys we named level and truthfully only Mjf may make it 2 their level
Let orange cassidey wrestle every week. I’m a star I don’t have to wrestle every week
Ouch I bet that cut Tony in his soul! Lmao
Honestly i cant wait 4 him 2 drop da belt. Hopefully Swerve beats him Wednesday
@@chihollywood9379 don't bet on it.
@@andrebdd5818 i think Swerve winning it
If I know anything, I know Jericho noticed MJF didn't mention Jericho as a great feud.
And MJF didn’t do that by accident
All it did was depriciate mjf value then
That’s what JeriCrashPad wanted.
MJF is half his age, twice as good, and three times smarter than the Insurrectionist demo gogue. He really helped expose JeriCrashPad for the clout vampire he’s become.
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I can’t even watch his promos anymore tbh, just feels like the same stuff over and over
Tony Khan is just Dixie Carter with a tan
Natural tan.
MJF is head and shoulders above everyone else in AEW. Just listening to him speak in character here, you can hear every inflection and nuance without watching the video of the conference.
He said “mid blood” 😂😂😂😂
Jim and Brian are spot on, these ‘journalists’ are an absolute joke
Makes you wonder if they've ever watched even a single NBA/NFL post-game press event...
@@bipolarminddroppings They don't care becouse they want to participate in their inner circle media gimmick and shoot their little angle so they could interact with wrestlers to make some TH-cam clips out of it and wisper some nice things about Tony.
cant wait to see mjf vs punk
I wish Jim cornette was on the scrum as a reporter
Unless they're doing a show in Louisville, I really doubt that will ever happen.
@@sandyunderpants4376 I would take Brian last even. Sounds like he himself was trying to get on there for both of them
@@taltagteamchamps I don't think AEW wants either of them in the scrum. They only want AEW jocksniffers asking questions. I don't even know how they know what they can or can't ask, since we're all smart do you ask why Tony booked Jade Cargill to break her winning streak for no reason or do you have to pretend that it was all a surprise and what is Jade gonna do now? Since MJF kayfabed it and Danielson half-heartedly did as well.
@@sandyunderpants4376 I already know that and Brian said that too himself. Exactly why I said wish
Tonys face during all this is fucking amazing. He makes it all so much better 🤣 MJF is gold
He was actually blinking!!!!
The New Japan Forbidden Door question should have been included as well
Thanks guys.
LMFAO These Media Scrums are amazing especially that iconic All Out Media scrum with Punk and the muffin everyone blew that shit way out of proportion.
Mindy's... But it's closed on Tuesdays.
Oh and Colt Cabana shares a bank account with his Mom 😂😂😂
@@elberno4243 LMAO that Part was phenomenal 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I love Punk, he just destroyed the illusion of AEW being a perfect place with zero flaws. For Empty head Hangnail and The Buckaroos starting beef with Punk by accusing him of getting rid of Colt Cabana, they did all this for a pointless useless jobber like Cabana to get back at Punk. I'm sure, They'd probably do worst to Punk for Brandon Cutlet since he's their childhood buddy.
CM Punk and MJF are STARS.
@@TheMrAlgoh LMAO I Absolutely Agree 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
1:02 "We started out hot and ended... Oh no."🤣🤣🤣
Wrestlejoy = the outfit that one of the founders tweeted that AEW was inclusive because they had a "literal dinosaur" on their roster.
Lol, who are they owned by, Jezebel or Kotaku? 😂
Yes, I've been waiting!
TK looked so spooked
I can deal without MJF needing to say fuck every other word. Gets old fast.
I've been saying this from the start of AEW...these media scrums are nothing but a mark circle jerk design to make Tony feel good about himself and the other talent that just made a mockery of wrestling
THANKS GUYS
MJF was fantastic as always. TK’s face during his segment was priceless 😂
He’s still overrated and not a draw
I love that MJF continues to make Tony sweat and work him like a puppet. It's too easy for him. Seeing Tony's reactions and his head nearly explode when MJF continues to mention WWE and jumping ship is priceless. Even MJF knows they live rent-free in Tony's coked-out head. I'd love to see him just go off on Meltzer, Alverez, Sidgwick, and Yenta Bix himself.
Sidgewick is the absolute fucking worst
There's no way Tony is on coke. He's just a crazy child. I've met plenty of people like him.
Thanks guys
@@paulwangler I don't think he's on coke but he's definitely on some sort of stimulant. Probably Adderall. He's still too coherent for it to be the Bolivian marching powder.
@@Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma Agreed, Tony may be on something but it's almost certainly not coke
khans facial reactions always have me weak😆😆
This is truly what I've been waiting for
The snowman ⛄️🤣😂 lmao
4:56 -5:00 was so f'n funny. In aew MJF is always the main event
MJF should comment on Wed about how Sammy should have taken the check and laid down cause he won anyway
Bryan Alvarez fears Brian Last
I'm not a fan of these Press Scrum's, it's one of those things Tony saw being done in New Japan and thought it was cool, but MJF talking is fun.
Njpw doesmt do post fight press conferences . More like a unscripted promo
I kinda figured this would be a throwaway ppv with collision and both Wembley and all out coming soon. Now Tony can check that pillar match off his list and move on.
When MJF said "i get paid by a winners m'fing purse" he sounded like Al Snow.
Even 1996 steve austin wasn't F this F that. If he had done that i would've hated his character then.
MJF with the constant F bombs is as bad as Mox blading. It's unnecessary
I love this. Listening to Jim while drinking is like listening to an uncle
16:40 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Absolute brilliance.
The cross eye jab was the highlight for me, but mjf is constant highlights so I cant be choosy. Mjf roasts are amazing.
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I knew these media scrums were fakakta when Izzy was at one of them & asked a question. & for anyone curious, Izzy was the Bayley super fan from the old NXT days. Nothing against her, she’s a sweet girl but she’s a child & she got media credentials because she has a TH-cam channel.
Wait wtf. She’s asking questions at these?
She isnt a child anymore 😂😂😂
She's a mark just like all the rest of them, child or not
4:26 Wil Wheaton lmao
Wish you would have also played the clip where he called New Japan an indie fed 🤣🤣🤣
The shmo is a real interviewer he does a lot with the UFC
Kudos to MJF for being able to breathe the same air as all those spineless hack reporters with zero grasp on self-respect.
"If there is a matchup that should have happened but hasn't happened it's because of that. Done."
I think he is referring to the EVPs etc. No Adam Page etc. No Plumber Moxley best of 3.
I haven't watched for that long. Has MJF never had matches with the evps or hangman?
MJF is Masterful at these scrums.
Thanks, guys.
I think the high spot comment was towards Dante Martin or wrestlers of his type.
Swearing too much makes it non effective
Seriously. It shows how limited his gimmick is. He has no finesse
Wow MJF is so damn good
No shit. Even my cynical little heart wants to see someone hospitalize him in the ring.
This was great! Lol . MJF is the man!
Tallyho! Jim and Brian. Mjf is gold 😄😄😄😄
Anyone else notice how MJF kept emphasising best 'singles' Dog Collar match of all time.
A mark of respect to the Briscoes and FTR
MJF’s comment on the open challenge popped in my head when Seth Franklin tweeted that he’s doing an open challenge on Raw next week for his belt😂
Tony’s the boss we all dream of.
And Media Scrum is Tony's fantasy of beeing the boss he dreams of to be.
@@kamilj1521 eeeexxxxxactly
idk it would depend on what you were kind of job your are doing and what kind of person you are. Not everyone wants to come to work and just find a place to lay down and sleep.
I would love to have a boss who I could browbeat and fuck around whenever I felt like it. Especially when coming to work is optional it's a fuckin dream job.
Having a boss like Tony Khan is equal to having Eric Bischoff as a boss in WCW, 3 years of a free-for-all circus and crazy money, but then Warner pulls the plug and you're out of a job as a whole.
2:57 😆😆😆😆😆😆
AEW would probably have higher viewership if the waited and let the wrestlers speak at the next tv episode rather than immediately after
What? Why would he want more viewers? That would piss off the core audience...
Facts. That's how it was done back in the day. These should be next week's promos
Johnny Sameface needs to watch this press conference and watch Tony and his reactions for some tips.
15:55 , he kinda dodge the open challenge question. It wasn't about wrestling every week , it was about aew's lack if storylines. 20:21 it's off a different question but he did answer it
That WrestleJoy is a joke they only started watching wrestling when AEW started. They never knew who Jericho was or even Mox and Saraya
Mjf is such a gift from above
F f f f f f, so many f words, ffs
MJF definitely listens to Jim's podcast. I think he even shouted him out during a promo one time to get heat lol.
He dropped Thank You Fuck You Bye on Demented Dave Dipshit and Anorexic Alvarez
Is MJF the son of the Moyle from Seinfeld?! Think about it 🤔. I don't think MJF is as great as a lot of folks in the IWC do, but he's damn good and he is a pro wrestler. I think he gets that very well. And he's only 27?!! Greatness is certainly attainable.
"Why would I want to roll around in Jon Moxley's blood?" QFT and quote of the year?
The constant cursing from MJF is a bit too much. It's low hanging fruit as its widely not accepted in pro wrestling. I think he's shooting himself in the foot on that aspect. If he ever goes to the big leagues in the WWE, he loses that instantly. It might even be a reason he never does get there. I hope he figures that out as he is great entertainment otherwise.
It’s all he has. 3 years in and he’s still doing the same tryhard edgelord gimmick
The constant cursing reminds me of Shane Douglas in ECW...you're absolutely right I think the cursing will be frowned upon by WWE but where MJF differs from a guy like Shane Douglas is that I think he could lose the free range of cursing in his promos and it would not hurt him a bit because he's THAT talented.
Brian forgot to play the clip of MJF dissing NJPW.......
I was curious to hear Jim's reaction to it.
MJF is the only reason I watch AEW. Of course when CM Punk is on Collision I will watch as long as they keep the Young Pukes off the show
Seriously, the Schmo with the Schmozone. WTF!!!
Imagine Corny and Brian bein allowed in one of these media scrums? First they would need security. Two, other interviewers would try to keep interrupting them cause they are in Tonys Pockets and then the wrestlers or Tony would just say no comment to ant question and then eventually Jim would just start cutting everyone a part with his mouth and it would turn into a fight lol.
Derp
I would pay 2 c that lbs
he sticks out in all of new, everybody else is just playing around