As an African a American Christian I equate Christian Nationalism with racism and the desire to maintain white supremacy due to the conservative political views held by Christian Nationalists. Is it possible to be a Christian and a strong rejector of Christian Nationalism?
As a Christian, I don’t think we really want a Christian nation. That doesn’t at all mean that I don’t want more people to come to know the lord, but when a country tries to make everyone in that country worship the same religion we start to have a problem, because it stops becoming about a personal relationship with Christ (it’s forced). Freedom of religion is one of the greatest blessings we have right now because everyone is free to worship as they see fit. If we as Christians start persecuting people for their religion, why should they do no different to us? That can become very dangerous.
We are headed fast to Christians uniting with the state to enforcing by law a national Sunday law , this is where the pendulum of time is heading next, to combat the evil Democratic Party, this act will bring religious intolerance and persecution to America, mark my words the final destruction of America and the world destruction is coming quickly, Biden is just the popes puppet, this has all been carefully planned , this will be a war over God Almighty’s law the 10 commandments, and the 7th day sabbath vs the popes false worship day Sunday! Sunday will be the mark of the beast, come out of her my people, and receive not of her plagues, they are surely coming quickly, repent sinners and return to Gods true sabbath, why would you perish and miss eternal life?
Christians are just getting paranoid because atheist and pagan Nazi outnumber skinheads and could be partly the fault of the churches that atheist and followers of the old gods do not attend. Pagans sometimes get kicked out of places because of their anti-immigration and anti-race mixing views and goes back many decades, many of their speeches rarely contain anything to do with the alien races, Their focus is more on Germanic culture and are known to make wiccans cry and some of it is just a result of them calling wiccans on their bullshit and has nothing to do with the rare wiccan cat kidnapping and sacrifice to Freya and such pagans rarely use churches for worship or giving honor to the gods preferring private land and their have been a few anti-mixing public speeches by them in the past and rarely accept the criminal elements into their ranks and some of this may be because of not wanting criminals around their children and the big ones of their lists of never are normally rapist ,pedophiles and aliens and normally prefer to marry christian and atheist woman over Wiccans who are just to liberal or mixed for them.
I wrote about this for years on a blog that no longer exists. It seems that now there are finally a few who are putting proper language around this topic. Chris Hedges calls it Christian neo fascism. One major factor that changes how Christians view nationalism is Eschatology. Depending on their Eschatology views, they will see Americas role differently.
Repent of your sins and believe on Adonai Jesus Christ, believe in your heart that He has died for sins and rose from the tomb on the third day and let the Holy Spirit within you, and you shall be saved. - Jesus the Christ loves, praise YHWH our Elohim - Evidence for Jesus Christ’s existence, crucifixion, and disappearance from the tomb (He rose from it): The Lord Jesus Christ did exist, gathered disciples, and was crucified and went missing from the tomb. To argue about wether He was taken from the grave or rose from it, is an argument a skeptic can make. Because well if you disregard the eye witness testimony of the disciples and there willingness to die for Christ, and humans won’t die for something they know is a lie, when Peter is pinned upside down to that cross, he could have said that it was a fake, but He didn’t because it wasn’t, what care would he have about death in this world if he knew for a fact he had assurance of a life in another, Jesus Christ did rise from the tomb and is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Now the evidence for the Lord Jesus Christ’s existence really isn’t hard to find a multitude of non-Christian scholars and historians mention Him within 150 years after the time of His life. One such is Tacitus a Roman historian who reported on emperor nero’s decision to blame the Christians for the fire that had destroyed rome in 64 AD. Tacitus wrote: “Nero fastened the guilt ... on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of ... Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome…” In this Tacitus makes reference to not only Christians, but Christ calling Him Christus and confirming the Gospels going on to say that He suffered the extreme penalty (crucifixion) under the reign of Tiberius and by the sentence of Pontius Pilate, which like I said confirms the Gospels narrative. Another important source of evidence about Jesus and early Christianity can be found in the letters of Pliny the Younger to Emperor Trajan. Pliny was the Roman governor of Bithynia in Asia Minor. In one of his letters, dated around A.D. 112, he asks Trajan's advice about the appropriate way to conduct legal proceedings against those accused of being Christians. Pliny says that he needed to consult the emperor about this issue because a great multitude of every age, class, and sex stood accused of Christianity. At one point in his letter, Pliny relates some of the information he has learned about these Christians: “They were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food - but food of an ordinary and innocent kind.” This passage provides a number of interesting insights into the beliefs and practices of early Christians. First, we see that Christians regularly met on a certain fixed day for worship. Second, their worship was directed to Christ, demonstrating that they firmly believed in His divinity. Furthermore, one scholar interprets Pliny's statement that hymns were sung to Christ, "as to a god", as a reference to the rather distinctive fact that, "unlike other gods who were worshipped, Christ was a person who had lived on earth." If this interpretation is correct, Pliny understood that Christians were worshipping an actual historical person as God! Of course, this agrees perfectly with the New Testament doctrine that Jesus was both God and man. You may have heard of the scholar Flavius Josephus who mentioned James as being the brother of the Lord Jesus Christ, which matches what Paul said calling James “The Lord’s brother” and there is another document that Josephus may have written which goes: “About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he ... wrought surprising feats.... He was the Christ. When Pilate ...condemned him to be crucified, those who had . . . come to love him did not give up their affection for him. On the third day he appeared ... restored to life.... And the tribe of Christians ... has ... not disappeared.” Now it’s up to debate wether this is the entirely original document of what Josephus wrote, or if a Christian had edited it. But regardless he wrote about the Lord Jesus Christ. Wether it was negative or positive like the possible document is. Anyways there are many other statements, documents, letters, and writings of all sorts from the ancient world talking about the Lord Jesus Christ and there is not one question if He was a real person or if He was crucified and went missing from the grave. That is clear as day, He is a real person, was crucified, and went missing from the grave. And He did rise from the grave. And for more evidence of the Lord Jesus Christ, there’s the Bible and you see there is no evidence the Bible is corrupted, a lie, created by the Roman government, folktale. It is the recount of the Disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ, now wether you want to believe it is up to you. And what profit was there in spreading Christianity, All the early Christian suffered persecution, beatings, and were killed. Another Scholar reported that James the Lord’s Brother was thrown off a building and then stoned to death for spreading the Gospel in Jerusalem. These people went to great lengths even giving their own lives for the Adon Jesus the Christ. Amen!!!!!!!
@@slothjolly8075 “…risk of becoming a Christian sharia state….” Yes, absolutely. Political decisions are made by appeals to religious doctrine all the time. In June 2022, the courts and state legislatures are moving to stop recognizing personal and health freedoms. It has already started by SCOTUS denying women autonomy over their bodies regarding health decisions, and the SCOTUS gave a list of laws to ‘reconsider’ regarding marriage availability, contraception, private sexual activity.
Christians are just getting paranoid because atheist and pagan Nazi outnumber skinheads and could be partly the fault of the churches that atheist and followers of the old gods do not attend. Pagans sometimes get kicked out of places because of their anti-immigration and anti-race mixing views and goes back many decades, many of their speeches rarely contain anything to do with the alien races, Their focus is more on Germanic culture and are known to make wiccans cry and some of it is just a result of them calling wiccans on their bullshit and has nothing to do with the rare wiccan cat kidnapping and sacrifice to Freya and such pagans rarely use churches for worship or giving honor to the gods preferring private land and their have been a few anti-mixing public speeches by them in the past and rarely accept the criminal elements into their ranks and some of this may be because of not wanting criminals around their children and the big ones of their lists of never are normally rapist ,pedophiles and aliens.
My religion is my mother, honestly. a) Literally created me in her image. b) Nourished me with her own body. c) Spoke divine revelation directly unto me daily since babyhood (not just once atop a mountain second-hand). d) Answers my prayers via text. e) My church is when I hug her. f) My prayer is when I tell her I love her (which she always answers). g) Heaven & Hell both are her face covered with tears. Most importantly, she doesn’t demand that I harm other people, or perform specific rituals, or deny my human nature, in order to prove my love for her. We both know we both love eachother forever.
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Freedom of religion means religious pluralism and also freedom from religion. Especially as the majority(By a Narrow margin) of americans are not affiliated with a church and 26% of americans are Non's.
Nonsense. Do you forget the recent nonstop madness of American racist apartheid at home and racist warring abroad? I worked for State Dept. in real life. "Christians" had nothing to do with that. This presentation is pure statist whining garbage. Christians are overtly multi-ethnic. "Flesh is born of flesh, but spirit is born of the Spirit." - John 3:6. Let's be clear: GOP/DNC are trash. Those are fake "identities." Don't confuse matters. All states disappear. Always. Christian churches last and last. I lived in post-Soviet Ukraine. When I stay all states disappear, I'm not guessing. I also worked for the Unitarian Church at Harvard and met Bishop Tutu helping Anglicans forcibly destroy apartheid South Africa. Peace be with you.
It’s tantamount to voodooism to imagine that if somebody pronounces this a Christian nation, it will be so. Galatians tells us that we are sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, and that alone. And God gets to define what that faith looks like. Children born not of natural descent or a human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.
The Hidden Agenda Behind Racism | Pastor Ivor Myers th-cam.com/video/zpEF8qa4pt4/w-d-xo.html Once you were enslaved. Maybe you still are. And your taskmaster is ruthless and wily. Now Christ came to shed Love that is more than skin deep. But the question is will you love your neighbor, your brother, "those people" like The Almighty God able chose to love you?
Perry's definition of Christian nationalism seems a little squishy in my opinion. It's important when discussing it to have agreement on what the terms mean. If a religious nationalist opposes the separation doctrine then people who support it are not religious nationalists. A rejecter or resister is a religious adherent with a laisser-faire attitude when it comes to other religions or belief systems and their freedom to express them. It's only the "Ambassadors" who are religious nationals.
Exactly. It doesn't mean anything. This entire presentation is creepy is statist whining garbage. Christians are overtly multi-ethnic. "Flesh is born of flesh, but spirit is born of the Spirit." - John 3:6. Let's be crystal clear: America's GOP/DNC "teams" are fake trash. Those are fake "identities." I work in DC and know real political operatives and lobbyists. DNC/GOP voters are most definitely not on those "teams." Real team members pay and get paid. More broadly, all states disappear. Always. Nobody sane would ever deny that after any historical reflection. Christian churches (and other churches) last and last. Americans somehow forget that Christians destroyed America's truly filthy racist pseudo-science and statist apartheid. I worked for the Unitarian Church at Harvard and met Bishop Tutu helping Anglicans forcibly destroy apartheid in South Africa. There are now over 2x as many Nigerian Anglicans as there are in England, while Africa adds 10K to 40K brand new converts every month of the year. No babbling "sociologists" will change that. Peace be with you.
Ya'll may need a lot more questions. The racial split should tell you that there is something deeply ingrained in Christian nationalism. I think it is more dominionist. Rushdoony etc., gives us all more of a clue. The concept of the Christ, is he coming back muscle-bound wielding an assault rifle or is he ushering in an age of peace? I'd love to see this questionnaire.
@@itsspiritual8645 Thanks for using normal typology. Don't want to hear what? You use all caps to speak meaningless platitude. All caps is usually a dead give-away that what's being said has no real meaning.
Does this also pertain to conservative Roman Catholics, too? What is the involvement with National Right to Life in this? I wonder how much January 6th was Christian Nationalists.
I always thought separation of Church & state was for the Church? Dear God who would want crazy humans to legally dictate God's law & if one is really are a believer.
I feel as though in addition to this yall need to analyze systems of abuse and how they function within christian nationalism because that's a cause and a factor not a lot of people are willing to analyze.
Of course my brother. Look at Angola prison in Louisiana. There is no excuse for there basically being only black inmates; dark-skinned blacks as well. Very revealing how a certain group of males are systematically removed from the greater society.
Nonsense. Do you forget the recent nonstop madness of American racist apartheid at home and racist warring abroad? I worked for State Dept. in real life. "Christians" had nothing to do with that. At home, there are 15 *million* African American Baptist church goers, and that's just Baptists. This presentation is pure statist whining garbage. Christians are overtly multi-ethnic. "Flesh is born of flesh, but spirit is born of the Spirit." - John 3:6. Let's be crystal clear: GOP/DNC are trash. Those are fake "identities." Don't confuse matters. All states disappear. Always. Christian churches last and last. I lived in post-Soviet Ukraine. When I stay all states disappear, I'm not guessing. I also worked for the Unitarian Church at Harvard and met Bishop Tutu helping Anglicans forcibly destroy apartheid South Africa. There are now over 2x as many Nigerian Anglicans as there are in England, while Africa adds 10K to 40K brand new converts every month of the year. No babbling "sociologists" will change that. It's best to keep out of the way. We destroy states. Peace be with you.
False religion is imaginary. For 2, 000 year there has been the corruption of man in every institution, the Church included, YET the Word of God still saves the sinner. Don't throw out the baby with the dirty bathwater.
Parke Your can't prove God that's why it's faith however you can prove Jesus walked this Earth. Jesus is in other books other than the Bible. So the question you need to ask is who was Jesus. Was he a man, prophet or God part of the Trinity. So don't ask to prove there is a creator...solve who was Jesus
@@johnc6617 Show us those "other books" you think Jesus was in. Show us ANY proof of your imaginary god or life after death. It's all 100% imaginary, be an adult and accept it. You outgrew Santa Claus, why can't you outgrow god???
23:04 "Among AA, Christian Nationalism just behaves differently than it does for white Americans." That's because they aren't Christian Nationalists. Nationalism is conservative ideal, if your religious doctrines cause you to "bank to the left" then you aren't a Christian Nationalist. I don't understand why they get so mushy on this point.
How is he "mushy"? He was actually quite clear on the ideological differences between white and black people who share some Christian nationalism ideology.
Some have said to me that God is not into Christian Nationalism and Christian Nationalism is a myth!..but I call them a liar because >>> God is the greatest Nationalist there is !! Genesis 12:2 And I will make of thee a GREAT NATION, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: 1 Peter 2:9 9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an HOLY NATION, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: Genesis 17:4-6 “As for Me, behold, My covenant is with you, And you will be the father of a multitude of NATIONS. “No longer shall your name be called Abram, But your name shall be Abraham; For I have made you the FATHER of a MULTITUDE OF NATIONS. I will make you exceedingly fruitful, and I will make NATIONS of you, and KINGS will come forth from you.
"Lighthouses are more useful than churches." - Ben Franklin. "This would be the best of all possible worlds if there were no religion in it." - John Addams "Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man." - Thomas Jefferson.
Why is the survey results sound like they surveyed 100% Christian/ Christian background people? I would think that rejectors might be any other religion that sees Christian dominance, especially nationalism, as a threat to who they are and what they believe, most importantly, in a country that promotes freedom of religion- in a world where religious beliefs are still being persecuted and under genocide? My Jesus loves all my brothers and sisters, no strings attached.
Organized religion in the United States is in decline. The number of white christians is in decline. What do you expect? The USA is a secular nation, not a religious nation. 👍👍👍
Trinity 3 gods in one (polytheism) Christmas god Tammuz ( instead of Christ) no marvel...for Satan himself transforms into an angel of light. They hung Jesus from a tree...what do we really think we have coming? He was and is the Son of God. Perilous times indeed. But for us there is but one God the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ. Shalom
Hold it! The separation of church and state was first a Christian ideal. America was founded on Biblical values. Not secular ones. Not by atheists. If you don't like American values leave. And stop lying. .
I agree with one commenter this is not a Christian country maybe just maybe long ago it started out to be but that's been forgotten America is not Christian any longer sad but i believe true
What is a Christian? All I see, from those calling themselves Christians, is monetary greed, envy, racism, nationalist idealism, bigotry, constant lying, denial, intolerance for the truth........
Repent of your sins and believe on Adonai Jesus Christ, believe in your heart that He has died for sins and rose from the tomb on the third day and let the Holy Spirit within you, and you shall be saved. - Jesus the Christ loves, praise YHWH our Elohim - Evidence for Jesus Christ’s existence, crucifixion, and disappearance from the tomb (He rose from it): The Lord Jesus Christ did exist, gathered disciples, and was crucified and went missing from the tomb. To argue about wether He was taken from the grave or rose from it, is an argument a skeptic can make. Because well if you disregard the eye witness testimony of the disciples and there willingness to die for Christ, and humans won’t die for something they know is a lie, when Peter is pinned upside down to that cross, he could have said that it was a fake, but He didn’t because it wasn’t, what care would he have about death in this world if he knew for a fact he had assurance of a life in another, Jesus Christ did rise from the tomb and is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Now the evidence for the Lord Jesus Christ’s existence really isn’t hard to find a multitude of non-Christian scholars and historians mention Him within 150 years after the time of His life. One such is Tacitus a Roman historian who reported on emperor nero’s decision to blame the Christians for the fire that had destroyed rome in 64 AD. Tacitus wrote: “Nero fastened the guilt ... on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of ... Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome…” In this Tacitus makes reference to not only Christians, but Christ calling Him Christus and confirming the Gospels going on to say that He suffered the extreme penalty (crucifixion) under the reign of Tiberius and by the sentence of Pontius Pilate, which like I said confirms the Gospels narrative. Another important source of evidence about Jesus and early Christianity can be found in the letters of Pliny the Younger to Emperor Trajan. Pliny was the Roman governor of Bithynia in Asia Minor. In one of his letters, dated around A.D. 112, he asks Trajan's advice about the appropriate way to conduct legal proceedings against those accused of being Christians. Pliny says that he needed to consult the emperor about this issue because a great multitude of every age, class, and sex stood accused of Christianity. At one point in his letter, Pliny relates some of the information he has learned about these Christians: “They were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food - but food of an ordinary and innocent kind.” This passage provides a number of interesting insights into the beliefs and practices of early Christians. First, we see that Christians regularly met on a certain fixed day for worship. Second, their worship was directed to Christ, demonstrating that they firmly believed in His divinity. Furthermore, one scholar interprets Pliny's statement that hymns were sung to Christ, "as to a god", as a reference to the rather distinctive fact that, "unlike other gods who were worshipped, Christ was a person who had lived on earth." If this interpretation is correct, Pliny understood that Christians were worshipping an actual historical person as God! Of course, this agrees perfectly with the New Testament doctrine that Jesus was both God and man. You may have heard of the scholar Flavius Josephus who mentioned James as being the brother of the Lord Jesus Christ, which matches what Paul said calling James “The Lord’s brother” and there is another document that Josephus may have written which goes: “About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he ... wrought surprising feats.... He was the Christ. When Pilate ...condemned him to be crucified, those who had . . . come to love him did not give up their affection for him. On the third day he appeared ... restored to life.... And the tribe of Christians ... has ... not disappeared.” Now it’s up to debate wether this is the entirely original document of what Josephus wrote, or if a Christian had edited it. But regardless he wrote about the Lord Jesus Christ. Wether it was negative or positive like the possible document is. Anyways there are many other statements, documents, letters, and writings of all sorts from the ancient world talking about the Lord Jesus Christ and there is not one question if He was a real person or if He was crucified and went missing from the grave. That is clear as day, He is a real person, was crucified, and went missing from the grave. And He did rise from the grave. And for more evidence of the Lord Jesus Christ, there’s the Bible and you see there is no evidence the Bible is corrupted, a lie, created by the Roman government, folktale. It is the recount of the Disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ, now wether you want to believe it is up to you. And what profit was there in spreading Christianity, All the early Christian suffered persecution, beatings, and were killed. Another Scholar reported that James the Lord’s Brother was thrown off a building and then stoned to death for spreading the Gospel in Jerusalem. These people went to great lengths even giving their own lives for the Adon Jesus the Christ. Amen!!!!!!!
How do you know they are Liberal? I can't find they're political affiliation anywhere online. They never mention conservative Christians being bad either. They only discuss Christian nationalists and how they fit into the political system. Did you even watch the video?
As an African a American Christian I equate Christian Nationalism with racism and the desire to maintain white supremacy due to the conservative political views held by Christian Nationalists. Is it possible to be a Christian and a strong rejector of Christian Nationalism?
As a Christian, I don’t think we really want a Christian nation. That doesn’t at all mean that I don’t want more people to come to know the lord, but when a country tries to make everyone in that country worship the same religion we start to have a problem, because it stops becoming about a personal relationship with Christ (it’s forced). Freedom of religion is one of the greatest blessings we have right now because everyone is free to worship as they see fit. If we as Christians start persecuting people for their religion, why should they do no different to us? That can become very dangerous.
We are headed fast to Christians uniting with the state to enforcing by law a national Sunday law , this is where the pendulum of time is heading next, to combat the evil Democratic Party, this act will bring religious intolerance and persecution to America, mark my words the final destruction of America and the world destruction is coming quickly, Biden is just the popes puppet, this has all been carefully planned , this will be a war over God Almighty’s law the 10 commandments, and the 7th day sabbath vs the popes false worship day Sunday! Sunday will be the mark of the beast, come out of her my people, and receive not of her plagues, they are surely coming quickly, repent sinners and return to Gods true sabbath, why would you perish and miss eternal life?
Christians are just getting paranoid because atheist and pagan Nazi outnumber skinheads and could be partly the fault of the churches that atheist and followers of the old gods do not attend. Pagans sometimes get kicked out of places because of their anti-immigration and anti-race mixing views and goes back many decades, many of their speeches rarely contain anything to do with the alien races, Their focus is more on Germanic culture and are known to make wiccans cry and some of it is just a result of them calling wiccans on their bullshit and has nothing to do with the rare wiccan cat kidnapping and sacrifice to Freya and such pagans rarely use churches for worship or giving honor to the gods preferring private land and their have been a few anti-mixing public speeches by them in the past and rarely accept the criminal elements into their ranks and some of this may be because of not wanting criminals around their children and the big ones of their lists of never are normally rapist ,pedophiles and aliens and normally prefer to marry christian and atheist woman over Wiccans who are just to liberal or mixed for them.
I wrote about this for years on a blog that no longer exists. It seems that now there are finally a few who are putting proper language around this topic. Chris Hedges calls it Christian neo fascism. One major factor that changes how Christians view nationalism is Eschatology. Depending on their Eschatology views, they will see Americas role differently.
Repent of your sins and believe on Adonai Jesus Christ, believe in your heart that He has died for sins and rose from the tomb on the third day and let the Holy Spirit within you, and you shall be saved.
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Jesus the Christ loves, praise YHWH our Elohim
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Evidence for Jesus Christ’s existence, crucifixion, and disappearance from the tomb (He rose from it):
The Lord Jesus Christ did exist, gathered disciples, and was crucified and went missing from the tomb. To argue about wether He was taken from the grave or rose from it, is an argument a skeptic can make. Because well if you disregard the eye witness testimony of the disciples and there willingness to die for Christ, and humans won’t die for something they know is a lie, when Peter is pinned upside down to that cross, he could have said that it was a fake, but He didn’t because it wasn’t, what care would he have about death in this world if he knew for a fact he had assurance of a life in another, Jesus Christ did rise from the tomb and is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Now the evidence for the Lord Jesus Christ’s existence really isn’t hard to find a multitude of non-Christian scholars and historians mention Him within 150 years after the time of His life. One such is Tacitus a Roman historian who reported on emperor nero’s decision to blame the Christians for the fire that had destroyed rome in 64 AD. Tacitus wrote:
“Nero fastened the guilt ... on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of ... Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome…”
In this Tacitus makes reference to not only Christians, but Christ calling Him Christus and confirming the Gospels going on to say that He suffered the extreme penalty (crucifixion) under the reign of Tiberius and by the sentence of Pontius Pilate, which like I said confirms the Gospels narrative.
Another important source of evidence about Jesus and early Christianity can be found in the letters of Pliny the Younger to Emperor Trajan. Pliny was the Roman governor of Bithynia in Asia Minor. In one of his letters, dated around A.D. 112, he asks Trajan's advice about the appropriate way to conduct legal proceedings against those accused of being Christians. Pliny says that he needed to consult the emperor about this issue because a great multitude of every age, class, and sex stood accused of Christianity. At one point in his letter, Pliny relates some of the information he has learned about these Christians:
“They were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food - but food of an ordinary and innocent kind.”
This passage provides a number of interesting insights into the beliefs and practices of early Christians. First, we see that Christians regularly met on a certain fixed day for worship. Second, their worship was directed to Christ, demonstrating that they firmly believed in His divinity. Furthermore, one scholar interprets Pliny's statement that hymns were sung to Christ, "as to a god", as a reference to the rather distinctive fact that, "unlike other gods who were worshipped, Christ was a person who had lived on earth." If this interpretation is correct, Pliny understood that Christians were worshipping an actual historical person as God! Of course, this agrees perfectly with the New Testament doctrine that Jesus was both God and man.
You may have heard of the scholar Flavius Josephus who mentioned James as being the brother of the Lord Jesus Christ, which matches what Paul said calling James “The Lord’s brother” and there is another document that Josephus may have written which goes:
“About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he ... wrought surprising feats.... He was the Christ. When Pilate ...condemned him to be crucified, those who had . . . come to love him did not give up their affection for him. On the third day he appeared ... restored to life.... And the tribe of Christians ... has ... not disappeared.”
Now it’s up to debate wether this is the entirely original document of what Josephus wrote, or if a Christian had edited it. But regardless he wrote about the Lord Jesus Christ. Wether it was negative or positive like the possible document is. Anyways there are many other statements, documents, letters, and writings of all sorts from the ancient world talking about the Lord Jesus Christ and there is not one question if He was a real person or if He was crucified and went missing from the grave. That is clear as day, He is a real person, was crucified, and went missing from the grave. And He did rise from the grave. And for more evidence of the Lord Jesus Christ, there’s the Bible and you see there is no evidence the Bible is corrupted, a lie, created by the Roman government, folktale. It is the recount of the Disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ, now wether you want to believe it is up to you. And what profit was there in spreading Christianity, All the early Christian suffered persecution, beatings, and were killed. Another Scholar reported that James the Lord’s Brother was thrown off a building and then stoned to death for spreading the Gospel in Jerusalem. These people went to great lengths even giving their own lives for the Adon Jesus the Christ.
Amen!!!!!!!
@@romitsu968 Yeah, keeping it relevant. NiceTry/
It’s interesting to listen to this as a Christian minority in a majority Muslim country. Quite a lot of parallel.
Is the USA in all seriousness at any risk of becoming a Christian Sharia state or anything like that? Honest inquiry
@@slothjolly8075 exactly! Those pro-caliphates here want sharia to be law, just as the US christian nationalist try to enforce Biblical morality.
@Everyone Is Beautiful yup, a nation under Christian shariah.
@@slothjolly8075 “…risk of becoming a Christian sharia state….” Yes, absolutely. Political decisions are made by appeals to religious doctrine all the time. In June 2022, the courts and state legislatures are moving to stop recognizing personal and health freedoms. It has already started by SCOTUS denying women autonomy over their bodies regarding health decisions, and the SCOTUS gave a list of laws to ‘reconsider’ regarding marriage availability, contraception, private sexual activity.
Christians are just getting paranoid because atheist and pagan Nazi outnumber skinheads and could be partly the fault of the churches that atheist and followers of the old gods do not attend. Pagans sometimes get kicked out of places because of their anti-immigration and anti-race mixing views and goes back many decades, many of their speeches rarely contain anything to do with the alien races, Their focus is more on Germanic culture and are known to make wiccans cry and some of it is just a result of them calling wiccans on their bullshit and has nothing to do with the rare wiccan cat kidnapping and sacrifice to Freya and such pagans rarely use churches for worship or giving honor to the gods preferring private land and their have been a few anti-mixing public speeches by them in the past and rarely accept the criminal elements into their ranks and some of this may be because of not wanting criminals around their children and the big ones of their lists of never are normally rapist ,pedophiles and aliens.
My religion is my mother, honestly.
a) Literally created me in her image.
b) Nourished me with her own body.
c) Spoke divine revelation directly unto me daily since babyhood (not just once atop a mountain second-hand).
d) Answers my prayers via text.
e) My church is when I hug her.
f) My prayer is when I tell her I love her (which she always answers).
g) Heaven & Hell both are her face covered with tears.
Most importantly, she doesn’t demand that I harm other people, or perform specific rituals, or deny my human nature, in order to prove my love for her. We both know we both love eachother forever.
That's incredibly sweet
I get suspicious of people who always refer to God as being a "He."
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Freedom of religion means religious pluralism and also freedom from religion. Especially as the majority(By a Narrow margin) of americans are not affiliated with a church and 26% of americans are Non's.
Nonsense. Do you forget the recent nonstop madness of American racist apartheid at home and racist warring abroad? I worked for State Dept. in real life. "Christians" had nothing to do with that. This presentation is pure statist whining garbage. Christians are overtly multi-ethnic. "Flesh is born of flesh, but spirit is born of the Spirit." - John 3:6. Let's be clear: GOP/DNC are trash. Those are fake "identities." Don't confuse matters. All states disappear. Always. Christian churches last and last. I lived in post-Soviet Ukraine. When I stay all states disappear, I'm not guessing. I also worked for the Unitarian Church at Harvard and met Bishop Tutu helping Anglicans forcibly destroy apartheid South Africa. Peace be with you.
8:20 #2 it's something different from religion
It’s tantamount to voodooism to imagine that if somebody pronounces this a Christian nation, it will be so. Galatians tells us that we are sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, and that alone. And God gets to define what that faith looks like. Children born not of natural descent or a human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.
The Hidden Agenda Behind Racism | Pastor Ivor Myers th-cam.com/video/zpEF8qa4pt4/w-d-xo.html
Once you were enslaved. Maybe you still are. And your taskmaster is ruthless and wily. Now Christ came to shed Love that is more than skin deep. But the question is will you love your neighbor, your brother, "those people" like The Almighty God able chose to love you?
Perry's definition of Christian nationalism seems a little squishy in my opinion. It's important when discussing it to have agreement on what the terms mean. If a religious nationalist opposes the separation doctrine then people who support it are not religious nationalists. A rejecter or resister is a religious adherent with a laisser-faire attitude when it comes to other religions or belief systems and their freedom to express them. It's only the "Ambassadors" who are religious nationals.
Exactly. It doesn't mean anything. This entire presentation is creepy is statist whining garbage. Christians are overtly multi-ethnic. "Flesh is born of flesh, but spirit is born of the Spirit." - John 3:6. Let's be crystal clear: America's GOP/DNC "teams" are fake trash. Those are fake "identities." I work in DC and know real political operatives and lobbyists. DNC/GOP voters are most definitely not on those "teams." Real team members pay and get paid. More broadly, all states disappear. Always. Nobody sane would ever deny that after any historical reflection. Christian churches (and other churches) last and last. Americans somehow forget that Christians destroyed America's truly filthy racist pseudo-science and statist apartheid. I worked for the Unitarian Church at Harvard and met Bishop Tutu helping Anglicans forcibly destroy apartheid in South Africa. There are now over 2x as many Nigerian Anglicans as there are in England, while Africa adds 10K to 40K brand new converts every month of the year. No babbling "sociologists" will change that. Peace be with you.
Ya'll may need a lot more questions. The racial split should tell you that there is something deeply ingrained in Christian nationalism. I think it is more dominionist. Rushdoony etc., gives us all more of a clue. The concept of the Christ, is he coming back muscle-bound wielding an assault rifle or is he ushering in an age of peace? I'd love to see this questionnaire.
WE ARE ALL ONE RACE, THE HUMAN RACE!
@@itsspiritual8645 What did you say? Can you shout louder? All caps suck.
@@andywomack3414 A lot of people don't want to hear that. As far as I know TH-cam doesn't give us a bold option. I'm glad you heard.
@@itsspiritual8645 Thanks for using normal typology. Don't want to hear what? You use all caps to speak meaningless platitude. All caps is usually a dead give-away that what's being said has no real meaning.
@@andywomack3414 That's your truth, not mine!
Does this also pertain to conservative Roman Catholics, too? What is the involvement with National Right to Life in this? I wonder how much January 6th was Christian Nationalists.
The Jan 6 insurrectionist were pretty much all Christian nationalist
I always thought separation of Church & state was for the Church? Dear God who would want crazy humans to legally dictate God's law & if one is really are a believer.
I feel as though in addition to this yall need to analyze systems of abuse and how they function within christian nationalism because that's a cause and a factor not a lot of people are willing to analyze.
Of course my brother. Look at Angola prison in Louisiana. There is no excuse for there basically being only black inmates; dark-skinned blacks as well. Very revealing how a certain group of males are systematically removed from the greater society.
Nonsense. Do you forget the recent nonstop madness of American racist apartheid at home and racist warring abroad? I worked for State Dept. in real life. "Christians" had nothing to do with that. At home, there are 15 *million* African American Baptist church goers, and that's just Baptists. This presentation is pure statist whining garbage. Christians are overtly multi-ethnic. "Flesh is born of flesh, but spirit is born of the Spirit." - John 3:6. Let's be crystal clear: GOP/DNC are trash. Those are fake "identities." Don't confuse matters. All states disappear. Always. Christian churches last and last. I lived in post-Soviet Ukraine. When I stay all states disappear, I'm not guessing. I also worked for the Unitarian Church at Harvard and met Bishop Tutu helping Anglicans forcibly destroy apartheid South Africa. There are now over 2x as many Nigerian Anglicans as there are in England, while Africa adds 10K to 40K brand new converts every month of the year. No babbling "sociologists" will change that. It's best to keep out of the way. We destroy states. Peace be with you.
But freedom to gaslight labor and invest in a second coming
It's so bad we need conscription to defend science and secularize our state violence and investment in preparing for Adams and Carrington events
This is not a Christian nation. It’s about damn time we take it back
It never was.
What does that mean? What is a Christian?
Back to the Dark Ages.
Because religion is imaginary, it can be whatever you want it to be
False religion is imaginary. For 2, 000 year there has been the corruption of man in every institution, the Church included, YET the Word of God still saves the sinner. Don't throw out the baby with the dirty bathwater.
@@PaulChristianJenkinsJD Show us ANY proof of your imaginary god or life after death
Parke
Your can't prove God that's why it's faith however you can prove Jesus walked this Earth. Jesus is in other books other than the Bible. So the question you need to ask is who was Jesus. Was he a man, prophet or God part of the Trinity. So don't ask to prove there is a creator...solve who was Jesus
@@johnc6617 Show us those "other books" you think Jesus was in. Show us ANY proof of your imaginary god or life after death. It's all 100% imaginary, be an adult and accept it. You outgrew Santa Claus, why can't you outgrow god???
@@johnc6617 Christ was NOT mentioned anywhere in 1st century Roman history. Don't find that odd?
So he admitting that it's something different than religion.
23:04 "Among AA, Christian Nationalism just behaves differently than it does for white Americans." That's because they aren't Christian Nationalists. Nationalism is conservative ideal, if your religious doctrines cause you to "bank to the left" then you aren't a Christian Nationalist. I don't understand why they get so mushy on this point.
How is he "mushy"? He was actually quite clear on the ideological differences between white and black people who share some Christian nationalism ideology.
Some have said to me that God is not into Christian Nationalism and Christian Nationalism is a myth!..but I call them a liar because >>>
God is the greatest Nationalist there is !!
Genesis 12:2
And I will make of thee a GREAT NATION, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
1 Peter 2:9
9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an HOLY NATION, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
Genesis 17:4-6
“As for Me, behold, My covenant is with you,
And you will be the father of a multitude of NATIONS.
“No longer shall your name be called Abram,
But your name shall be Abraham;
For I have made you the FATHER of a MULTITUDE OF NATIONS.
I will make you exceedingly fruitful, and I will make NATIONS of you, and KINGS will come forth from you.
I did like listening to this video. I am not a Christian anymore. Neither am I necessarily a anti-Christian. 😎🦉
"Lighthouses are more useful than churches." - Ben Franklin.
"This would be the best of all possible worlds if there were no religion in it." - John Addams
"Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man." - Thomas Jefferson.
Why is the survey results sound like they surveyed 100% Christian/ Christian background people? I would think that rejectors might be any other religion that sees Christian dominance, especially nationalism, as a threat to who they are and what they believe, most importantly, in a country that promotes freedom of religion- in a world where religious beliefs are still being persecuted and under genocide? My Jesus loves all my brothers and sisters, no strings attached.
Organized religion in the United States is in decline. The number of white christians is in decline. What do you expect? The USA is a secular nation, not a religious nation. 👍👍👍
Camp quest should train atheist kids for service academies
These silly smears from the far left. Ignore them.
Trinity 3 gods in one (polytheism) Christmas god Tammuz ( instead of Christ) no marvel...for Satan himself transforms into an angel of light. They hung Jesus from a tree...what do we really think we have coming? He was and is the Son of God. Perilous times indeed. But for us there is but one God the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ. Shalom
National Christians. Nat Cis.
Walking down the road to perdition and using scripture to justify it. The old ancestral gods are stirring inside me.
Sometimes Catholics teach so much tolerance. You losing your flock to those who will protect them and their families.
Group Stockholm syndrome for a second coming against science and the singularity
Hold it! The separation of church and state was first a Christian ideal. America was founded on Biblical values. Not secular ones. Not by atheists. If you don't like American values leave. And stop lying. .
I agree with one commenter this is not a Christian country maybe just maybe long ago it started out to be but that's been forgotten America is not Christian any longer sad but i believe true
What is a Christian? All I see, from those calling themselves Christians, is monetary greed, envy, racism, nationalist idealism, bigotry, constant lying, denial, intolerance for the truth........
Repent of your sins and believe on Adonai Jesus Christ, believe in your heart that He has died for sins and rose from the tomb on the third day and let the Holy Spirit within you, and you shall be saved.
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Jesus the Christ loves, praise YHWH our Elohim
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Evidence for Jesus Christ’s existence, crucifixion, and disappearance from the tomb (He rose from it):
The Lord Jesus Christ did exist, gathered disciples, and was crucified and went missing from the tomb. To argue about wether He was taken from the grave or rose from it, is an argument a skeptic can make. Because well if you disregard the eye witness testimony of the disciples and there willingness to die for Christ, and humans won’t die for something they know is a lie, when Peter is pinned upside down to that cross, he could have said that it was a fake, but He didn’t because it wasn’t, what care would he have about death in this world if he knew for a fact he had assurance of a life in another, Jesus Christ did rise from the tomb and is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Now the evidence for the Lord Jesus Christ’s existence really isn’t hard to find a multitude of non-Christian scholars and historians mention Him within 150 years after the time of His life. One such is Tacitus a Roman historian who reported on emperor nero’s decision to blame the Christians for the fire that had destroyed rome in 64 AD. Tacitus wrote:
“Nero fastened the guilt ... on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of ... Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome…”
In this Tacitus makes reference to not only Christians, but Christ calling Him Christus and confirming the Gospels going on to say that He suffered the extreme penalty (crucifixion) under the reign of Tiberius and by the sentence of Pontius Pilate, which like I said confirms the Gospels narrative.
Another important source of evidence about Jesus and early Christianity can be found in the letters of Pliny the Younger to Emperor Trajan. Pliny was the Roman governor of Bithynia in Asia Minor. In one of his letters, dated around A.D. 112, he asks Trajan's advice about the appropriate way to conduct legal proceedings against those accused of being Christians. Pliny says that he needed to consult the emperor about this issue because a great multitude of every age, class, and sex stood accused of Christianity. At one point in his letter, Pliny relates some of the information he has learned about these Christians:
“They were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food - but food of an ordinary and innocent kind.”
This passage provides a number of interesting insights into the beliefs and practices of early Christians. First, we see that Christians regularly met on a certain fixed day for worship. Second, their worship was directed to Christ, demonstrating that they firmly believed in His divinity. Furthermore, one scholar interprets Pliny's statement that hymns were sung to Christ, "as to a god", as a reference to the rather distinctive fact that, "unlike other gods who were worshipped, Christ was a person who had lived on earth." If this interpretation is correct, Pliny understood that Christians were worshipping an actual historical person as God! Of course, this agrees perfectly with the New Testament doctrine that Jesus was both God and man.
You may have heard of the scholar Flavius Josephus who mentioned James as being the brother of the Lord Jesus Christ, which matches what Paul said calling James “The Lord’s brother” and there is another document that Josephus may have written which goes:
“About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he ... wrought surprising feats.... He was the Christ. When Pilate ...condemned him to be crucified, those who had . . . come to love him did not give up their affection for him. On the third day he appeared ... restored to life.... And the tribe of Christians ... has ... not disappeared.”
Now it’s up to debate wether this is the entirely original document of what Josephus wrote, or if a Christian had edited it. But regardless he wrote about the Lord Jesus Christ. Wether it was negative or positive like the possible document is. Anyways there are many other statements, documents, letters, and writings of all sorts from the ancient world talking about the Lord Jesus Christ and there is not one question if He was a real person or if He was crucified and went missing from the grave. That is clear as day, He is a real person, was crucified, and went missing from the grave. And He did rise from the grave. And for more evidence of the Lord Jesus Christ, there’s the Bible and you see there is no evidence the Bible is corrupted, a lie, created by the Roman government, folktale. It is the recount of the Disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ, now wether you want to believe it is up to you. And what profit was there in spreading Christianity, All the early Christian suffered persecution, beatings, and were killed. Another Scholar reported that James the Lord’s Brother was thrown off a building and then stoned to death for spreading the Gospel in Jerusalem. These people went to great lengths even giving their own lives for the Adon Jesus the Christ.
Amen!!!!!!!
Liberals explaining why Conservative Christians are bad. Lol. Classic.
How do you know they are Liberal? I can't find they're political affiliation anywhere online. They never mention conservative Christians being bad either. They only discuss Christian nationalists and how they fit into the political system. Did you even watch the video?
Titles............Religion was created to control/divide the masses.
@@SilentKabob lmao it's obvious what framework they're coming from
"People don't have ideas; ideas have people"
Look deeper
God is a Suppression.
Jesus would hate these people
Did he just excuse racism?