Purchased a cheap Temu knife and it came with almost no detent shocker. Followed these steps and it is now 80 percent better. I feel now more comfortable to do this on my better knives if needed. Thanks, you the man!!!
You are the man. I tried this fix with my kizer roach that was super sticky and now it is so smooth. Opening up the detent hole fixed it. With your tips, I feel more confident buying some open box knives with issues I think I can fix. Appreciate it.
Beautiful, video needed to be made! Such an easy fix, I tune half of my knives this way to get it perfect. Personally I like using the slowest speed on router or even use bit by hand first to make sure I don't go to far. Works well for me to check if ball drops in hole while knife is completely disassembled.
You are a wealth of Knowledge Jerad. Thank you, I just happen to be watching your other vid on detent last night and this one today so I can fix my NOS Kizer T1 Titanium with a strong detent when I trying to opening it. You mind reader. Lol. Keep up the good work.
I've been having this problem with the ball seated in too much a lot lately, and have been doing this trick for years. I like that you made a video on ithis topic there's not too many out there.
What's good Jerad?! I have had issues with the detent ball seizing up or a defect on the surface. Some very specific instances I have used baking soda to loosen a detent. You add that very fine abrasive to what you know is a metal on metal union or joint. Then flush with hot water, dry it thoroughly and lube it. I agree that sometimes it's necessary to disassemble and diagnose. Thanks for sharing this video with us!
I did this exact same mod when I had a Spyderco Mantra 3. The detent was WEAK. Dremel to the rescue, and it has a nice snappy detent after. Nice video.
Awesome little tip the one thing I would suggest is only doing a bit at a time. Tiny adjustments along with only removing tiny amounts of material is the trick to this fix. You can always remove more but can't replace it. Thanks for the great vid Jerad and keep making sharp things fun and enjoyable
Yeah that’s how I did it on my Spyderco Mantra 3 and now it’s one of my favourites! The detent holes on the Taichung flippers always seem to be way way too small
Holy detent balls, Batman! I have a Civivi Pintail I bought some time ago as my first "expensive" knife (ya, my standards have increased a little since then 😂) that has a detent so weak I can't stand carrying it. I checked it out after seeing the video and looks exactly the same, the ball isn't dropping into the hole. I never would have thought to check that, going to have a crack at it this weekend. Hopefully it can be fixed up, I really like the knife and it fits in perfectly well with what I want in a carry. Thanks for the video!
The detent was so strong, it was almost too perfect of a fit! I took it apart and drilled a bit with a diamond tipped bit, just using my hands and I might have overdone it a bit... (That's a lot of bits) Any fix you can recommend? Making the lock bar stronger?
Spoiler alert strengthening the lock bar didn't work! It just rattles... How did I make the whole too wide just twirling the diamond bit in there with my hand few times, and you used a Dremel and just worked? At least it was a budget knife and I got two (QSP canary folder) I wanted to use and abuse the rattling knife anyway cuz that's why I got it obviously, anything else about it is perfect! At least now it's easy to deploy and super fidgety!
I'd even like the one you fixed! Nice not all problems have the same fix. I was wondering if you could open up the slot between the lock bar and the handle w/ a slotted screw driver or close the gap if needed w/ pliers?
Question: I have a Twosun ts223 and the detent is pretty strong. The lockup doesn't look that deep though, maybe 20%. Would you suggest bending the lockup tab back a little or could it be something else?
I had a knife with detent lash, I ended up having to bend the lockbar flat ways and twist the lockbar slightly. It was a used knife I bought on the secondary.
I just returned a knife for having a shockingly stiff detent. Almost like it was creating suction with the detent hole. I'd rather not try to bend the lockbar, but did consider trying to carve a little notch or detent ramp into that detent hole. The dremel adjustment would've worked. Wasn't worth it though, I'm glad I was able to return that cheap feeling knife. Kizer Minitherium.
I'm a fan of a slightly stronger detent, where it almost hurts my finger to flip open because the blade just flies out so fast and reliably. Feels a lot more premium to me.
What if my detent hole is too big for the ball so I have some detent rock? Is a bigger ball the only way? Do I just order steel or ceramic generic balls on Amazon? Thanks
Hey Jared! How to fix a weak detent on Spyderco compression lock? Most of them come with fairly weak detent. Have you done a video on fixing detent on the compression locks?
People complaining about expensive knives needing time to break in, simply Crack me up! Chris Reeve Knives for example, are one of the most reputable knife makers out there. And his knives have a break in period...the reason the break in period is a thing is because if they went ahead and "broke" a knife in with machines, the final product wouldn't have such tight tolerances and that buttery feel to them. The parts need to wear their own grooves and polish each other to the level of fitting together perfectly. It's no different than a cars break in period, but you don't hear ANYONE complaining about that eh? I mean sure, they could run your brand new car for 1,000 miles so the engine is broke in, and all of the seals are married together....but then it wouldn't be a brand new car :) or you could drive it like a jackass, and F the piston rings up and have your engine last 1/4 of the length if you would have broke it in properly.
Should I see no ball at all when looking through with the blade closed? I cleaned a little burr out of the detent hole. And gave the lock bar more tension. It made a big positive difference but I think the actual detent hole is too small. I can still see the ball when it’s closed. I think I’m going to make it bigger a tiny bit at a time.
@ thank you for answering my question on a 2+ year old thread! That’s why you the man. BTW the knife is a made in 2000 Buck/Strider 880 Tanto mint condition still in the box. Very cool old school over built folder. But back then detents weren’t a thing apparently. So I’m correcting that.
@ one more question. Where do you buy spare torx head screws for pocket knives. Or a thread checker that can measure them. I can’t seem to find any under M4.
Hey man. Good job. I have a Zero Tolerance ZT 0804CF. Stupidly on Zero Tolerances behalf, that model does NOT come with a detent ramp. I couldn't believe it. What a bonehead move. Anyway, I looked up videos on "How to make a detent ramp" on TH-cam. I did it how the video said and it worked out. Only, it was a little rough at the beginning, but it has broken in as if the knife came with one from the start. Thanx for the video my Bladed Brother 👍 ⚔️ ✝️ 🇺🇲
Speaking about issues, it's quite shocking to me that almost all my knives had quality issues right after the purchase. From blade play to very hard to open with one hand. Kizer, Civivi, CRKT.. Don't they have quality control?! For a knive that cost 80 or 90 euro's! Do they expect me to fix those issues before I can use them as intended? I can and did, but needed Torx screwdrivers, locktite, nano-oil,.. to fix all this.
As far as maintenance goes, you are expected to have those tools to maintain your knife, I know sometimes it can be a pain if a knife comes off centered after some flipping and now needs to be lock tighted, but they travel a long way in many cases through many different temperatures and we beg them not to use red lock tight, so they use the medium hold lock tight, which means you might have to re apply it after a while. We don't want permanent red because then we would ruin our knife trying to maintenance them
@@NeevesKnives I was talking about issues straight from the factory. In my experience the quality control often lacks when there is for example blade play or a very poor flipping action right from the start.
Get to the coil spring and gently stretch it. You can probably find replacement same sized springs at your hardware store if you mess it up or just want to replace it.
yee, i returned my civivi atlas, because the button got stuck pushed down. knife wouldn't lock or drop into detent when closed. Oiled and or greased and cleaned it a few times with no luck.
you would have to replace it, with a set of calipers you can measure popping them out is not easy might have to be drilled then a new one pressed in. im not sure about yours but some detents do have a slight flat spot unless you are talking about a very old knife
@@NeevesKnivesits a hard to find knife with some custom work. It just looks like the detent ball was filed down. not sure what happened to it. but I just watched another one of your videos about fixing the detent. You listed a Dremel and a bit set for it, just purchased them early today off amazon.
Detent lash is my current problem with my QuietCarry Waypoint that I've had for a few years. I already sent it back for a broken lockbar screw once and got screwed on the price to fix it and now I've got detent lash... a $300 knife + $80 for the lockbar screw replacement + all the different shipping costs. Easily my most expensive and most problematic knife. Any tips on how to fix detent lash would be much appreciated.
What? You mean a ramp rolls a ball more smoothly than a vertical face? Noooooo... Refuse to believe it. Also, if your detent hurts da baby, you should maybe do something to earn some callouses.
If I have to work on it besides adding lube, I don't want it. Tools should come from the factory with minimal issues, (NOT ALWAYS). They should perform flawlessly, or close to it.
There was once a time where you had to know how to adjust your cars valves. Something that is carried frequently is subject to situations that exceed testing. Time wears all of these things too. If you know of a knife that never requires maintenance more than some point. Drop the link😂 this is all useful knowledge. Even if you don’t use it. Imagine you break your most expensive knife, but the piece you need it’s relatively cheap. You’d rather buy a new one? Not hating, just pointing out lost values replaced due to lack of necessity
That's tough and usually impossible, you can try little tricks like spinning the stop pin, adding tension to lock bar but the hole is probably to big for the ball, make sure its dropping in
Purchased a cheap Temu knife and it came with almost no detent shocker. Followed these steps and it is now 80 percent better. I feel now more comfortable to do this on my better knives if needed. Thanks, you the man!!!
yea dont by them on Temu buy them at reputable Dealers like the ones in the descriptions
You are the man. I tried this fix with my kizer roach that was super sticky and now it is so smooth. Opening up the detent hole fixed it. With your tips, I feel more confident buying some open box knives with issues I think I can fix. Appreciate it.
Beautiful, video needed to be made! Such an easy fix, I tune half of my knives this way to get it perfect. Personally I like using the slowest speed on router or even use bit by hand first to make sure I don't go to far. Works well for me to check if ball drops in hole while knife is completely disassembled.
You are a wealth of Knowledge Jerad. Thank you, I just happen to be watching your other vid on detent last night and this one today so I can fix my NOS Kizer T1 Titanium with a strong detent when I trying to opening it. You mind reader. Lol. Keep up the good work.
I discovered these techniques many moons ago. Thank you for making a great video about it! 🔪🖤🗡
I've been having this problem with the ball seated in too much a lot lately, and have been doing this trick for years. I like that you made a video on ithis topic there's not too many out there.
What's good Jerad?!
I have had issues with the detent ball seizing up or a defect on the surface. Some very specific instances I have used baking soda to loosen a detent. You add that very fine abrasive to what you know is a metal on metal union or joint. Then flush with hot water, dry it thoroughly and lube it. I agree that sometimes it's necessary to disassemble and diagnose.
Thanks for sharing this video with us!
I did this exact same mod when I had a Spyderco Mantra 3. The detent was WEAK. Dremel to the rescue, and it has a nice snappy detent after. Nice video.
Thanks for this! Learned so much. Now I have a weekend project for my biblio.
Awesome little tip the one thing I would suggest is only doing a bit at a time. Tiny adjustments along with only removing tiny amounts of material is the trick to this fix. You can always remove more but can't replace it. Thanks for the great vid Jerad and keep making sharp things fun and enjoyable
Yeah that’s how I did it on my Spyderco Mantra 3 and now it’s one of my favourites! The detent holes on the Taichung flippers always seem to be way way too small
Awesome! Thanks Mr. Neeve. You just fixed my frustrating Baby Banter. It’s like a new knife now.
Thank you for the great video and Info. I would trust the knife more after you adjusted it than straight from the factory.
That looked easy. Thanks, Jerad! I hope you and Kara are doing well up there and have a great week. 👊
I second your sentiment, @Grumpy Grunt! Hi, Jerad and Kara!
I third Grumpy Grunt's comment 👍👍👍💫🙋♀️🤭!
Thanks for this, I improved my QSP hawk's detent. I can still fail it if I try, but now at least it deploys consistently and I can now carry it.
Did you adjust your lock bar tension, it might just need a little more pressure
Holy detent balls, Batman! I have a Civivi Pintail I bought some time ago as my first "expensive" knife (ya, my standards have increased a little since then 😂) that has a detent so weak I can't stand carrying it. I checked it out after seeing the video and looks exactly the same, the ball isn't dropping into the hole. I never would have thought to check that, going to have a crack at it this weekend. Hopefully it can be fixed up, I really like the knife and it fits in perfectly well with what I want in a carry. Thanks for the video!
Thanks!
👊 🙏
Great video and very helpful. And beautiful knives.
Get a good set of carbide burrs … round ones .
They work wonders and you don’t need a dremel
The detent was so strong, it was almost too perfect of a fit!
I took it apart and drilled a bit with a diamond tipped bit, just using my hands and I might have overdone it a bit... (That's a lot of bits)
Any fix you can recommend? Making the lock bar stronger?
Spoiler alert strengthening the lock bar didn't work! It just rattles...
How did I make the whole too wide just twirling the diamond bit in there with my hand few times, and you used a Dremel and just worked?
At least it was a budget knife and I got two (QSP canary folder) I wanted to use and abuse the rattling knife anyway cuz that's why I got it obviously, anything else about it is perfect!
At least now it's easy to deploy and super fidgety!
That was insanely helpful brother, thank you
Thanks Jared! How about videos about fixing dentent and pivot lash? I haven’t been able to find any. TIA!
Thank u for the video
Time to see if I can fix two of my Giantmouse Grands , the weakest detents of my collection
I'd even like the one you fixed! Nice not all problems have the same fix. I was wondering if you could open up the slot between the lock bar and the handle w/ a slotted screw driver or close the gap if needed w/ pliers?
I had a similar issue with a riffle I ordered. Definitely returned it for a new one lol.
Great video Jerad and thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Now I know what's the problem is with my matrix. Cheers mate.
I love these videos
Question: I have a Twosun ts223 and the detent is pretty strong. The lockup doesn't look that deep though, maybe 20%. Would you suggest bending the lockup tab back a little or could it be something else?
Same thing work on a liner lock?
I had a knife with detent lash, I ended up having to bend the lockbar flat ways and twist the lockbar slightly. It was a used knife I bought on the secondary.
I just returned a knife for having a shockingly stiff detent. Almost like it was creating suction with the detent hole. I'd rather not try to bend the lockbar, but did consider trying to carve a little notch or detent ramp into that detent hole. The dremel adjustment would've worked. Wasn't worth it though, I'm glad I was able to return that cheap feeling knife. Kizer Minitherium.
I'm a fan of a slightly stronger detent, where it almost hurts my finger to flip open because the blade just flies out so fast and reliably. Feels a lot more premium to me.
What if my detent hole is too big for the ball so I have some detent rock? Is a bigger ball the only way? Do I just order steel or ceramic generic balls on Amazon? Thanks
Hey Jared! How to fix a weak detent on Spyderco compression lock? Most of them come with fairly weak detent. Have you done a video on fixing detent on the compression locks?
You can find my videos on how to fix a detent I have a few, or how to tune a detent, it will be the exact same way just with a compression lock
Got any remedies for detent lash
People complaining about expensive knives needing time to break in, simply Crack me up! Chris Reeve Knives for example, are one of the most reputable knife makers out there. And his knives have a break in period...the reason the break in period is a thing is because if they went ahead and "broke" a knife in with machines, the final product wouldn't have such tight tolerances and that buttery feel to them. The parts need to wear their own grooves and polish each other to the level of fitting together perfectly. It's no different than a cars break in period, but you don't hear ANYONE complaining about that eh? I mean sure, they could run your brand new car for 1,000 miles so the engine is broke in, and all of the seals are married together....but then it wouldn't be a brand new car :) or you could drive it like a jackass, and F the piston rings up and have your engine last 1/4 of the length if you would have broke it in properly.
“Everyone… every Man should have a Dremel” 😎😂
Should I see no ball at all when looking through with the blade closed? I cleaned a little burr out of the detent hole. And gave the lock bar more tension. It made a big positive difference but I think the actual detent hole is too small. I can still see the ball when it’s closed. I think I’m going to make it bigger a tiny bit at a time.
Sometimes you will see a little bit of ball which is fine as long as detent is strong enough, if not you can slightly open up the hole a bit
@ thank you for answering my question on a 2+ year old thread! That’s why you the man. BTW the knife is a made in 2000 Buck/Strider 880 Tanto mint condition still in the box. Very cool old school over built folder. But back then detents weren’t a thing apparently. So I’m correcting that.
@ one more question. Where do you buy spare torx head screws for pocket knives. Or a thread checker that can measure them. I can’t seem to find any under M4.
Good job dude
My para 3 in g10 got this detent lash😢
Banneret is slick 👌
"Everybody's got a plan until they strip their first T6 screw." Tike Myson
Would this knife classify as a linker lock or frame lock? Really bugging me idk what to think
Bolster lock
Hey man. Good job. I have a Zero Tolerance ZT 0804CF. Stupidly on Zero Tolerances behalf, that model does NOT come with a detent ramp. I couldn't believe it. What a bonehead move. Anyway, I looked up videos on "How to make a detent ramp" on TH-cam. I did it how the video said and it worked out. Only, it was a little rough at the beginning, but it has broken in as if the knife came with one from the start.
Thanx for the video my Bladed Brother 👍 ⚔️ ✝️ 🇺🇲
Speaking about issues, it's quite shocking to me that almost all my knives had quality issues right after the purchase. From blade play to very hard to open with one hand. Kizer, Civivi, CRKT.. Don't they have quality control?! For a knive that cost 80 or 90 euro's! Do they expect me to fix those issues before I can use them as intended? I can and did, but needed Torx screwdrivers, locktite, nano-oil,.. to fix all this.
As far as maintenance goes, you are expected to have those tools to maintain your knife, I know sometimes it can be a pain if a knife comes off centered after some flipping and now needs to be lock tighted, but they travel a long way in many cases through many different temperatures and we beg them not to use red lock tight, so they use the medium hold lock tight, which means you might have to re apply it after a while. We don't want permanent red because then we would ruin our knife trying to maintenance them
@@NeevesKnives I was talking about issues straight from the factory. In my experience the quality control often lacks when there is for example blade play or a very poor flipping action right from the start.
Not sure what the issue is, but my button lock cogent blade bounces back when closing. How can I fix it?
How do you tune a button lock?
Get to the coil spring and gently stretch it. You can probably find replacement same sized springs at your hardware store if you mess it up or just want to replace it.
i found another quick Detent fix:
-unscrew pivot
-Put knife in open position
-push and hold lock bar into release position
-screw in pivot screw
Any chance you can do a 'how to fix button stick' on a button lock knife?
yee, i returned my civivi atlas, because the button got stuck pushed down. knife wouldn't lock or drop into detent when closed. Oiled and or greased and cleaned it a few times with no luck.
@@ShadowWhippler It is my Altas that is causing me a problem too. Must be a fault with design.
Yeah, my Altas has pretty bad stick too. My stick is on the closing, just the initial press is stiff, haven't had the button lock up.
thanks for the vid
I dont know how you don't bleed all over your knives the way you handle the blades. But, great video.
what if the detent ball is just warn down
you would have to replace it, with a set of calipers you can measure popping them out is not easy might have to be drilled then a new one pressed in. im not sure about yours but some detents do have a slight flat spot unless you are talking about a very old knife
@@NeevesKnivesits a hard to find knife with some custom work. It just looks like the detent ball was filed down. not sure what happened to it.
but I just watched another one of your videos about fixing the detent. You listed a Dremel and a bit set for it, just purchased them early today off amazon.
Detent lash is my current problem with my QuietCarry Waypoint that I've had for a few years. I already sent it back for a broken lockbar screw once and got screwed on the price to fix it and now I've got detent lash... a $300 knife + $80 for the lockbar screw replacement + all the different shipping costs. Easily my most expensive and most problematic knife. Any tips on how to fix detent lash would be much appreciated.
I fixed mine by whacking the blade with a center punch, then some de-burring tool. Scared the shit out of my cats though LOL
Bang!!!
Just my problem
NEEVERY
What? You mean a ramp rolls a ball more smoothly than a vertical face? Noooooo... Refuse to believe it.
Also, if your detent hurts da baby, you should maybe do something to earn some callouses.
No the ramp helps the ball get on the vertical face, I have plenty of calluses I was born and raised doing every kind of construction my entire life
If I have to work on it besides adding lube, I don't want it. Tools should come from the factory with minimal issues, (NOT ALWAYS). They should perform flawlessly, or close to it.
That was also my point (comment I just added). Too many issues for pretty expensive knives...
For real, I’m not into taking them apart at all really.
True.
Not everyone has basic mechanical competance.
You should have the know how to take care of your tools as well though and that includes taking them apart
There was once a time where you had to know how to adjust your cars valves. Something that is carried frequently is subject to situations that exceed testing. Time wears all of these things too. If you know of a knife that never requires maintenance more than some point. Drop the link😂 this is all useful knowledge. Even if you don’t use it. Imagine you break your most expensive knife, but the piece you need it’s relatively cheap. You’d rather buy a new one? Not hating, just pointing out lost values replaced due to lack of necessity
How do u fix detent lash?
That's tough and usually impossible, you can try little tricks like spinning the stop pin, adding tension to lock bar but the hole is probably to big for the ball, make sure its dropping in
@@NeevesKnives 🤙🏻