I'm so glad you did a 2-3 minutes of jamming. Lots of ( so interesting and accurate ) talks can never exchange the feeling of hearing it in action. Thanks a lot great video !!!
I thought the name sounded as a complicated thing, but this is really simple. Thanks for the explanation! Love to learn and understand new things in under 5min.
I'm in NY now and there's some asshole leaning on his horn and it's actually in tune and sounding great with the pattern you're making at 4:30 just wanted to let you know.
Much love and thanks for the demo. I am new to modular and love the possibilities and need to learn the cheapest and quickest way I can get a bunch of modules to have some fun. You teaching all is so unselfish. Thank you and PLEASE keep teaching us.
You know what would be so cool... hollow TS plugs/patch cables with a clear center light pipe that takes the LIGHT from an LED inside each jack... color and brightness/luminance level would shine/pulse down the patch cables... and awesomeness would ensue. Not only visually, but for visualizing signal flow/strength better
Thank you for the very clear explanation. The circular presentation of the patterns on that module makes all the difference in the world. Subscribed. :-)
Very informative, didn't know it was that simple :). One thing though, is the polyrhythmic stuff really polyrhythmic? Both of the rhythms are still 4/4, right? A truly polyrhythmic sequence would play 4 evenly spaced notes against 5 evenly spaced notes per bar, if I'm correct.
I played drums until my twenties, and still to this day, occationally funky beats pop in my head out of no where. It is amazing how many are unintentional polyrhythms. Or perhaps I am subconsciously picking up on polyrhythms in my environment which causes them to get stuck in my head.
A paradiddle is considered a polyrhythm if you split the hands on different sound sources. Polyrhythm literally means “many rhythms” so it doesn’t have to be two different time signatures to perform a polyrhythm.
I think what you're referring to here is just the result of quantisation due to discrete and limited number of steps this particular sequencer (and probably most others) allow. It may not technically be a polyrythm, but it adds the funk, so I guess it's not bad :) To achieve what you describe, given sequencer would need to be able to produce signals along a continuous timeline of a specified duration, not quantised to a specific number of steps. I don't know if such a sequencer exists (I suppose Soma's Ornament-8 is something along those lines, but not entirely either) but I sure would like to have one xD Also, I thought it'd be nice if this sequencer allowed for different lengths of the four tracks, thus allowing to create polymeters instead :)
th-cam.com/video/cwFh4I73hrQ/w-d-xo.html so, I went and built one this week. great fun to play with, and its amazing how quickly interesting beats can build. Thanks to White Noises for the simple intro.
I've been doing this for ages, I never knew it was a "thing" and had a name, haha. Another thing you could try if you really want some interesting sounds, sequence 5/4 over 4/4, or 6/8 over 7/4, or any odd time over an even one. You can't really do multiple time signatures on one sequencer though, so you'll need at least two in sync running different time signatures.
Thank you very much! I personally find myself using Pulsar more, but that's because I tend to need to program rhythms more often than melodies. But if melodies are your thing, definitely Bloom!
I was trying to understand a little more of the relation between this to mathematics and geometry and on wiki the basic description is "The greatest common divisor of two numbers is used rhythmically giving the number of beats and silences." Are the "two numbers" referring to the # of hits and total length on a per pattern basis?
What would happen if you were doing drums externally e.g. from a digital through a midi CV interface. Would the unit still work off the external clock?
Hey, I'm a bit confused about one thing...... euclidian sequences are rhythm(beats) or notes(cv pitches)? I thought euclidian patterns were for drum rhythms , but i didn't know for sure, then this video shows you making a sequence with blips & bleeps.
Can someone answer a question that I have about this? I'm new to modular so I'm still wrapping my head around how eurorack modules are essentially monophonic but play polyphony in a *different way* (newbie me trying to describe it). For example, the Pulsar used in this video has 4 outputs and plays a polyphony on the 1 beat of each repetition. So can you have polyphonic modules but they're limited to the single input from the midi controller?
Most eurorack modules don't use MIDI, but control voltage or CV. CV is analog and can only represent a single voltage at a time, whereas MIDI being digital can send any number of note on commands at the same time. Therefore in eurorack, even if you have a digital oscillator that's capable of polyphony, you'd still need multiple CV cables to implement that. Alternatively, some modules might generate a chord from a single CV input and either output the CV of the different pitches to different outputs, or play all of the chord voices through a single audio output (or give you access to the different chord voices through different audio outputs, etc).
@@methyod This answer physically wrapped my head around the concept, thank you! Do you know an example of a module that plays a chord through a single output?
+Nate Belasco yes! More info in the manual here : static1.squarespace.com/static/56feccc7a3360c08ffa34ed4/t/595e652ea5790ac5cf9bb3a8/1499358512261/Pulsar_Manual.pdf
White Noises which cv input controls number of pulses? Do the cv ins act differently in different modes? I saw the manual but it’s tough to understand without having the module
That module seems kinda similar to the Euclidean Circles module that I have. But anyway, thanks for this; I haven't dug into the polyrhythm thing -- because it hadn't occurred to me. I'll have to play with this.
oh right. this is one of those things where people think 'i'm going to put this in a song because i want to make a song with euclidean rhythms' when really they should be making a song that actually sounds good instead
It would be interesting to have this thing with a 12 step option instead of 16 since base12 is ... well, watch this: th-cam.com/video/ohmc3gfm7u8/w-d-xo.html
If you're looking for rhythms that are unique to euclidean, then you want the number of steps to not be cleanly divisible. If it's cleanly divisible by the number of beats, then you get normal rhythms.
This is cool but I felt a little disappointed when I saw that the notes aren't actually being evenly distributed, but are instead 'quantized' to the closest 1/16 note. Or would it just sound like shit if it was actually evenly divided (with say 5 notes in a 16 step sequence)?
I don't know if I like the idea of a machine making a rhythm for u. You can make all these little beats and changes yourself without this gear. I'm a sampler and may be somewhat ignorant on this so can someone explain what makes this any different than some cheesy software that automatically makes the beat or placement of the sound for you.
Im a bit late here, but the idea is that a module gives you an interface for creating and more importantly manipulating things with or without direct interaction with it in a specific and presubably musical way. If you want to program a static explicit pattern, there's plenty of step sequencers out there for you, this just gives you a different interface for creating a specific type of pattern
I have an idea, why don't I make a video about a type of musical technique, but make sure that my voice drowns out the sound of the music that I am demonstrating.
I'm so glad you did a 2-3 minutes of jamming. Lots of ( so interesting and accurate ) talks can never exchange the feeling of hearing it in action. Thanks a lot great video !!!
That swoosh effect is PHENOMENAL. 💨
Thank you!! 🙏🏻 I am way prouder of it than I should be
The swoosh at the end really was the icing on the cake :>. Great video! Thanks for your work :)
You basically made a whole track bro, with an intro and outro. Very cool!
I thought the name sounded as a complicated thing, but this is really simple. Thanks for the explanation! Love to learn and understand new things in under 5min.
Hi, very thank you. You're the first who explains that buzzword reasonably.
I haven’t seen pulsar in action before this video but wow this looks like an amazing module!!!! I’m definitely planning on trying to pick this one up
This guy looks like he teleported himself just out of a 1970s West-Berlin synthesizer studio
Well does that scare you?
1970s West German synth yes, but I get more of a Duesseldorf vibe.
I'm in NY now and there's some asshole leaning on his horn and it's actually in tune and sounding great with the pattern you're making at 4:30
just wanted to let you know.
This might be my favourite comment I've ever received
Much love and thanks for the demo. I am new to modular and love the possibilities and need to learn the cheapest and quickest way I can get a bunch of modules to have some fun. You teaching all is so unselfish. Thank you and PLEASE keep teaching us.
You know what would be so cool... hollow TS plugs/patch cables with a clear center light pipe that takes the LIGHT from an LED inside each jack... color and brightness/luminance level would shine/pulse down the patch cables... and awesomeness would ensue. Not only visually, but for visualizing signal flow/strength better
The Steve Reich Device
I just discovered this video, and I thought the very same thing! :D
@@MaurizioDiBerardino Scrolled won planning to write "instant Steve Reich" and then saw this thread
Thank you so much for this video, I've been looking for a clear and simple explanation and this is exactly what I needed!
Took a question mark around sequencer jargon away, thank you!
yep i absolutely need this module now
Thank you for the very clear explanation. The circular presentation of the patterns on that module makes all the difference in the world. Subscribed. :-)
Very informative, didn't know it was that simple :).
One thing though, is the polyrhythmic stuff really polyrhythmic? Both of the rhythms are still 4/4, right? A truly polyrhythmic sequence would play 4 evenly spaced notes against 5 evenly spaced notes per bar, if I'm correct.
+Pieter Dirksen I believe you’re correct! Thanks for pointing that out.
I played drums until my twenties, and still to this day, occationally funky beats pop in my head out of no where. It is amazing how many are unintentional polyrhythms. Or perhaps I am subconsciously picking up on polyrhythms in my environment which causes them to get stuck in my head.
A paradiddle is considered a polyrhythm if you split the hands on different sound sources. Polyrhythm literally means “many rhythms” so it doesn’t have to be two different time signatures to perform a polyrhythm.
I think what you're referring to here is just the result of quantisation due to discrete and limited number of steps this particular sequencer (and probably most others) allow. It may not technically be a polyrythm, but it adds the funk, so I guess it's not bad :) To achieve what you describe, given sequencer would need to be able to produce signals along a continuous timeline of a specified duration, not quantised to a specific number of steps. I don't know if such a sequencer exists (I suppose Soma's Ornament-8 is something along those lines, but not entirely either) but I sure would like to have one xD
Also, I thought it'd be nice if this sequencer allowed for different lengths of the four tracks, thus allowing to create polymeters instead :)
Great video, thank you. Hope to see more Pulsar videos.
Lovely sounds and patterns with so few modules. Maybe Chance could randomise the dispersion of the beats?
Yeah, theres CV inputs for that
At 4:22 it sounded a lot like "Baião", a Brazilian rhythm/musical style.
Very interesting. Thank you very much for posting.
Thanx for the Pulsar demonstration.
sounds great man .just needs a nice sequencer to automate the changes.
Very clear Thanks from France ☕️☕️👋👀👍🏻
And now let´s add some delay... ;)
a really nice and clear explanation. Thanks. will look at building a euclidean sequencer.
th-cam.com/video/cwFh4I73hrQ/w-d-xo.html
so, I went and built one this week. great fun to play with, and its amazing how quickly interesting beats can build. Thanks to White Noises for the simple intro.
I've been doing this for ages, I never knew it was a "thing" and had a name, haha. Another thing you could try if you really want some interesting sounds, sequence 5/4 over 4/4, or 6/8 over 7/4, or any odd time over an even one. You can't really do multiple time signatures on one sequencer though, so you'll need at least two in sync running different time signatures.
example anthillrecordings.bandcamp.com/track/overlapping-spirals
does it make the crowd on the dancefloor exited?
Thx for the explanation man.
Could easily get lost in doing that for hours haha. Pretty sick devices
Nice one! I am still trying to find a place for this type of sequencing in my songs.
I'll be honest I only checked you out because of Ariel but this shit is really cool. I like how funky the beats got in it!
I'm glad you're enjoying!
White Noises i so am!
Thanks for this explanation!
So here is a v-dumb question but how do you setup pitch with the device or does it not do that?
Well-explained, thank you!
thankyou for your demo, hoping that you did not hurt your neck too much with the rough edit's..
Awesome explanation! Subbed!
Great explanation
Sounds like a hospital bed
Have you ever plugged euclidean rhythms into a cartesian sequencer?
+Robert Syrett I haven’t tried but be lots of fun!
Suddenly all melodies sound like they were programmed by Prefuse '73 :)
Insightful, thanks!
very well done !
Nice video. Thanks.
very nice and simple video..thanks! ..quick question (maybe a stupid one): Pulsar or Bloom? or both!?!? tnx man
Thank you very much! I personally find myself using Pulsar more, but that's because I tend to need to program rhythms more often than melodies. But if melodies are your thing, definitely Bloom!
Solid Breakdown :-)
who sells "enclosed" euroracks that can mount in standard racks with rack ears?
Tiptop happy ending. Just bought one myself
@@MrBennyfromtheblock "enclosed"
Hello! What do Y Think, How to create/drew/make the fractal sequence with Euclidean ritms? :) is it possible? Thank You! Very Interesting Video!
I was trying to understand a little more of the relation between this to mathematics and geometry and on wiki the basic description is "The greatest common divisor of two numbers is used rhythmically giving the number of beats and silences." Are the "two numbers" referring to the # of hits and total length on a per pattern basis?
I think so!
Thanks!
SWEET!
Thanks for your video. I need to program this on arduino. This sound a bit tricky but I will succeed.
cool jam and video
What would happen if you were doing drums externally e.g. from a digital through a midi CV interface. Would the unit still work off the external clock?
Hey, I'm a bit confused about one thing...... euclidian sequences are rhythm(beats) or notes(cv pitches)?
I thought euclidian patterns were for drum rhythms , but i didn't know for sure, then this video shows you making a sequence with blips & bleeps.
NYCP NY here they’re triggering gates. There’s 4 channels, each for a different note.
Can someone answer a question that I have about this? I'm new to modular so I'm still wrapping my head around how eurorack modules are essentially monophonic but play polyphony in a *different way* (newbie me trying to describe it). For example, the Pulsar used in this video has 4 outputs and plays a polyphony on the 1 beat of each repetition. So can you have polyphonic modules but they're limited to the single input from the midi controller?
Most eurorack modules don't use MIDI, but control voltage or CV. CV is analog and can only represent a single voltage at a time, whereas MIDI being digital can send any number of note on commands at the same time. Therefore in eurorack, even if you have a digital oscillator that's capable of polyphony, you'd still need multiple CV cables to implement that. Alternatively, some modules might generate a chord from a single CV input and either output the CV of the different pitches to different outputs, or play all of the chord voices through a single audio output (or give you access to the different chord voices through different audio outputs, etc).
@@methyod This answer physically wrapped my head around the concept, thank you! Do you know an example of a module that plays a chord through a single output?
very informative!!
are there any soft synth Euclidean rhythm generators?
Uriel Septim check out Soniccouture. They have some VSTs with a “Euclidean Beats” function (Konkrete is a good one). Great plugins...
Fuck. Im really into polyrythmics and I need this quite bad right now
Anybody knows how to do Euclidean Rhythms in FL Studio?
Does the Pulsar have CV over number of pulses?
+Nate Belasco yes! More info in the manual here : static1.squarespace.com/static/56feccc7a3360c08ffa34ed4/t/595e652ea5790ac5cf9bb3a8/1499358512261/Pulsar_Manual.pdf
White Noises which cv input controls number of pulses? Do the cv ins act differently in different modes? I saw the manual but it’s tough to understand without having the module
That module seems kinda similar to the Euclidean Circles module that I have. But anyway, thanks for this; I haven't dug into the polyrhythm thing -- because it hadn't occurred to me. I'll have to play with this.
SWOOSH!
I still don’t get it ,,,,,, ! But this is helpful
Ahh I like it
Looks like it's just broken polyrhythms. "Just" ;)
I could do this with a synth and CTHULU
Great... another module on the list... take my money. I hope they let you keep their module. TH-camrs sell more gear than the best sales people.
💛👾💛
I don't understand this (I'm musically untalented) but it's really cool!
I actually think you're a genius to be able to do this magic
Hahahah thank you!! I'm glad you like it :)
Fun Kenny skit :)))
Good stuff 👍. So this is how Polyphia write their music ? Not so difficult after all 🤣.
Great video,
Thanks man
oh right. this is one of those things where people think 'i'm going to put this in a song because i want to make a song with euclidean rhythms' when really they should be making a song that actually sounds good instead
this makes me wanna go modular but urgh being a poor student doesn't help at all
Medhi Bohy don’t sweat it-modular is cool but so is Reaktor,VCV etc.The ideas you have are more important
I'm a poor student myself and now I have an almost full 6U 84HP case:) Maybe try to resell some modules
Interesting that you describe Clapping Music as the greatest example of rotating / offsetting rhythms, when it isn't a Euclidean rhythm...
damn everything really be abstracted from something
this nerd is hot as hell
0:28 🤣
It would be interesting to have this thing with a 12 step option instead of 16 since base12 is ... well, watch this:
th-cam.com/video/ohmc3gfm7u8/w-d-xo.html
If you're looking for rhythms that are unique to euclidean, then you want the number of steps to not be cleanly divisible. If it's cleanly divisible by the number of beats, then you get normal rhythms.
This is cool but I felt a little disappointed when I saw that the notes aren't actually being evenly distributed, but are instead 'quantized' to the closest 1/16 note. Or would it just sound like shit if it was actually evenly divided (with say 5 notes in a 16 step sequence)?
Potentially! That would be a polyrhythm, and some sound good together, some don't
I don't know if I like the idea of a machine making a rhythm for u. You can make all these little beats and changes yourself without this gear. I'm a sampler and may be somewhat ignorant on this so can someone explain what makes this any different than some cheesy software that automatically makes the beat or placement of the sound for you.
Im a bit late here, but the idea is that a module gives you an interface for creating and more importantly manipulating things with or without direct interaction with it in a specific and presubably musical way. If you want to program a static explicit pattern, there's plenty of step sequencers out there for you, this just gives you a different interface for creating a specific type of pattern
I have an idea, why don't I make a video about a type of musical technique, but make sure that my voice drowns out the sound of the music that I am demonstrating.
pointless little toy