Glad you enjoyed. It just saves a bit of mesos/epic potential as it’s cheaper to do that on lvl 140 gear, but not super beneficial if you haven’t invested anything yet.
Only thing missing from this guide is how someone should go about star forcing their rare items beyond 17 stars and the different approaches for that ~
Haha very true. Part of the reason is I’m not quite through that stage myself yet, and the other part is the analysis can go quite deep. The video was getting quite long. I can certainly do a more focused video on it later! A few things to consider: 1. switching to different set effects: pitched, gollux, dawn (When are other sets worth it? Should you gamble for higher starforce without copies?) 2. Moving from abso to arcane (should you 22 star abso first? When should you start this push?) 3. General gear progression (what items will be straight upgrades? What items need multiple set pieces?) I would definitely start to be more conservative and stop at 17 stars for everything beyond GA Slime boss drops until you have duplicates… unless the only way it will be better than your current equipment is by getting higher than 17 stars. In which case gamble because it’s not an upgrade without it.
I'm still very early game, main is 242 aran but mostly through events and bonks, second main with hyperburning is now 235 shadower. I don't have Legendary secondary or emblem on the shadower yet. Do you recommend going for that before starforcing gear to 17*? Or would you starforce on the event either way and get my double L lines on SE after the event?
I personally would starforce first. This event makes this process much cheaper, and it’s really infrequent that both 5/10/15 and 30% off events happen at the same time. You can get legendary during miracle time, but cubing for useful lines you can do with resources you get after the starforce event. Cubing is a lot more RNG dependent compared to 17 stars. Some cube lines tend to only help with bossing too. Whereas starforce stats help everything. Your starforce stats also create a higher base that your % potential lines scale off. I think you will see a much more noticeable impact from 17 stars across your gear. Hope this helps!
Title: The ultimate Starforcing guide. @ 9:35 , Pray... Yeah ok good luck with that im still going to do it my way, at least that does not involve rng.
Great guide. A few questions, as a returning player that wants to main my current Hyper Burn, do you recommend safeguarding if I only have a copy of AbsoLab gear? Just able to do Lomien a few days ago, so I won't have enough cores for multiple. Secondly, which one of the upcoming DMT should I go for? There's 1 for Top/Bottom/Cape tomorrow, is it good to drop some mesos to get CRA and Abso to Legendary? Thanks.
For absolab I would safeguard during the event from 16-17. It’s pretty rare it would get destroyed, but it’s only a bit more mesos to make sure you don’t end up having to wait another week and starforce from 12 stars again. For DMT it really depends on how many mesos you will have available. You only benefit from the rank up during DMT so at most I would cube to legendary. Then save mesos for the starforce event. You can cube for useful lines after that. I think this saturdays one for top/bottom/cape/shoes is the least useful miracle time because those equips are saturated with non useful lines and a few% of extra main stat will be far less impactful than the stat from 17 star equipment. I think it’s it would be more worth it during the accessory and weapon miracle times come around.
I’m not 100% sure what you’re asking, but my general advice would be that starforce > potential. This will shift based on how much you’ve invested in one versus the other.
Why I cant starforce some items till I scroll them a few times and only then the SF option is available? And other thing, should I start playing in a reboot server? Besides u cant trade whats another difference? Easier items, more exp, something like that? Love ur vid!
Scrolling is a mechanic exclusive to the regular servers. You are required to use spell traces to enhance the item first before starforcing. This doesn’t exist in Reboot. As for Reboot vs Regular server it depends on many different aspects. Each have their benefits. The main benefit of Reboot is that most progression systems are linked to mesos which are much easier to earn due to 5x meso drop rate boost from mobs and improved boss crystals. Progression is often locked behind time gates to get gear due to the weekly clear mechanics because you can’t trade. However, in regular server you can trade for gear between your characters and other people. You don’t have these time gates or have pay for progression mechanics to get through them faster. If you don’t mind spending you can boost power on characters and have access to different types of progression systems. I find reboot to be more rewarding to low/no spend players. That’s what I play and what I would recommend, but if you are having fun playing in regular server that’s good too!
@@JamoosinYT Mate, this was the exact answer I was looking for!!!! Thank you so much!!! Im just returning after like 10 years haha. Im going to start a reboot acc. Maybe I could add u in game for some tips/advices? Thanks again man, was so helpful!
I’m not super familiar with the regular server, but I would imagine you can apply a lot of the same activities and general advice from this video, but once you transfer from burning to the regular server you have access to better gear via trading which will skip a lot of the step by step advice for new characters/mules
You will use the CRA until you get your own pieces which you can use this method to make cheaper. It’s not that much saved, the process I describe helps a lot with early progression when you don’t have the event rewards.
@@JamoosinYT is it possible to do Lomien with the free 15 star set or would it be necessary to wait 5 days to get real CRA that can be progressed further?
@@LawsofPaul it’s dependent on a lot of variables that go into your damage, but it’s likely you would be able to at least do enough damage in a party to participate and earn rewards. As for solo clearing it might be difficult
This is Reboot. Forgot to add that haha. I play NA Reboot, so most of my advice is centered around solo progression. A lot of the video still applies for regular server, but things like trading for gear make the progression path quite different. Also, meso rates are very different.
There is not a way to keep the potential on the piece you are transferring to. If you already have potential on that item, starforce on it. The cost from cubing again would likely mitigate any benefit from transferring
I would skip Saturdays miracle time event. It only applies to top, bottom, shoes and capes. Those are the last slots you should get legendary potential lines in because they are saturated with non desirable lines. My overall recommendation would be to 17 star your gear first if you haven’t yet. This is a lot more consistent, and will have an incredibly noticeable impact on your character. The exception is getting legendary for your weapons, emblem and gloves whenever that comes around. But remember the event only helps you get to legendary it doesn’t increase the odds of the lines you want. The starforce event will benefit all starforce progression and have an immediate stat impact. Also, look out for the accessory miracle time event. Accessories can get legendary meso and drop lines. These lines are also critical for progression because it drastically speeds up acquiring nodes, mesos and boss drops. A happy median might be to get legendary on the items you want during the miracle event and immediately stop cubing. Then use your mess to get desirable lines after the starforce event.
@@dragongrandmaster it’s not guaranteed to get the pieces, just have to keep going each day. Drop rate is probably making a difference as well. Killing Ranmaru for crystals if you aren’t capping 180 a week is also helpful :)
@@dragongrandmaster now I’m confused. The use of the gear is to transfer hammer from pensalir to absolab. It’s cheaper and transfers up to epic potential. Went through the process of doing this in the video 😅
I have a question about prime scrolling - I’m still trying to wait out the reward shops protection scrolls to fully scroll my arcane weapon - should I just rush that in order to SF, or wait it out?
I’m not super familiar with scrolling in regular server, but I imagine it would depend on how much you value the time it takes to scroll / safety from protection scrolls versus the amount saved starforcing. You can always starforce off event. If you are going to 17 stars it’s a few hundred million mesos saved on event
this guide is JUICED
You’re GOATED
I'm a returning player and this guide is so helpful. thanks a lot for making this. 😃
Love this video, thanks man!
thanks so much! this was perfect. one question is there a point in transferring pensalir > ranmaru > absolab if my pensalir gear is not upgraded?
Glad you enjoyed. It just saves a bit of mesos/epic potential as it’s cheaper to do that on lvl 140 gear, but not super beneficial if you haven’t invested anything yet.
Only thing missing from this guide is how someone should go about star forcing their rare items beyond 17 stars and the different approaches for that ~
Haha very true. Part of the reason is I’m not quite through that stage myself yet, and the other part is the analysis can go quite deep. The video was getting quite long. I can certainly do a more focused video on it later!
A few things to consider:
1. switching to different set effects: pitched, gollux, dawn (When are other sets worth it? Should you gamble for higher starforce without copies?)
2. Moving from abso to arcane (should you 22 star abso first? When should you start this push?)
3. General gear progression (what items will be straight upgrades? What items need multiple set pieces?)
I would definitely start to be more conservative and stop at 17 stars for everything beyond GA Slime boss drops until you have duplicates… unless the only way it will be better than your current equipment is by getting higher than 17 stars. In which case gamble because it’s not an upgrade without it.
Great guide. Liked and subscribed. Hurry up and make a “How to Progress from Mid-Late Game Guide” ❤️
I'm still very early game, main is 242 aran but mostly through events and bonks, second main with hyperburning is now 235 shadower.
I don't have Legendary secondary or emblem on the shadower yet. Do you recommend going for that before starforcing gear to 17*?
Or would you starforce on the event either way and get my double L lines on SE after the event?
I personally would starforce first. This event makes this process much cheaper, and it’s really infrequent that both 5/10/15 and 30% off events happen at the same time.
You can get legendary during miracle time, but cubing for useful lines you can do with resources you get after the starforce event. Cubing is a lot more RNG dependent compared to 17 stars. Some cube lines tend to only help with bossing too. Whereas starforce stats help everything. Your starforce stats also create a higher base that your % potential lines scale off.
I think you will see a much more noticeable impact from 17 stars across your gear.
Hope this helps!
Lovin the content
Love to see people enjoying it. Tons of ideas in the works! Not enough time to execute them all haha
Title: The ultimate Starforcing guide.
@ 9:35 , Pray...
Yeah ok good luck with that im still going to do it my way, at least that does not involve rng.
Lmao you caught me red handed, like the wet bandits
Great guide. A few questions, as a returning player that wants to main my current Hyper Burn, do you recommend safeguarding if I only have a copy of AbsoLab gear? Just able to do Lomien a few days ago, so I won't have enough cores for multiple.
Secondly, which one of the upcoming DMT should I go for? There's 1 for Top/Bottom/Cape tomorrow, is it good to drop some mesos to get CRA and Abso to Legendary? Thanks.
For absolab I would safeguard during the event from 16-17. It’s pretty rare it would get destroyed, but it’s only a bit more mesos to make sure you don’t end up having to wait another week and starforce from 12 stars again.
For DMT it really depends on how many mesos you will have available. You only benefit from the rank up during DMT so at most I would cube to legendary. Then save mesos for the starforce event. You can cube for useful lines after that.
I think this saturdays one for top/bottom/cape/shoes is the least useful miracle time because those equips are saturated with non useful lines and a few% of extra main stat will be far less impactful than the stat from 17 star equipment.
I think it’s it would be more worth it during the accessory and weapon miracle times come around.
Some of my mains absolab gear is 70% dex, should I try to get stuff to 30% dez before I starforce?
I’m not 100% sure what you’re asking, but my general advice would be that starforce > potential. This will shift based on how much you’ve invested in one versus the other.
Banger!
Is that rebpot ? Becauee the maple station doednt give that and ursus gives 3 mil per run
Yep! These are reboot rates. Should have clarified!
Why I cant starforce some items till I scroll them a few times and only then the SF option is available?
And other thing, should I start playing in a reboot server? Besides u cant trade whats another difference? Easier items, more exp, something like that?
Love ur vid!
Scrolling is a mechanic exclusive to the regular servers. You are required to use spell traces to enhance the item first before starforcing. This doesn’t exist in Reboot.
As for Reboot vs Regular server it depends on many different aspects. Each have their benefits.
The main benefit of Reboot is that most progression systems are linked to mesos which are much easier to earn due to 5x meso drop rate boost from mobs and improved boss crystals. Progression is often locked behind time gates to get gear due to the weekly clear mechanics because you can’t trade.
However, in regular server you can trade for gear between your characters and other people. You don’t have these time gates or have pay for progression mechanics to get through them faster. If you don’t mind spending you can boost power on characters and have access to different types of progression systems.
I find reboot to be more rewarding to low/no spend players. That’s what I play and what I would recommend, but if you are having fun playing in regular server that’s good too!
@@JamoosinYT Mate, this was the exact answer I was looking for!!!! Thank you so much!!!
Im just returning after like 10 years haha. Im going to start a reboot acc.
Maybe I could add u in game for some tips/advices?
Thanks again man, was so helpful!
hi, is this viable on burning world? im not sure if that makes a big difference haha
I’m not super familiar with the regular server, but I would imagine you can apply a lot of the same activities and general advice from this video, but once you transfer from burning to the regular server you have access to better gear via trading which will skip a lot of the step by step advice for new characters/mules
How does this apply to Hyper Burning characters?
Should I still make 16 star Pensalir or is the free CRA better?
You will use the CRA until you get your own pieces which you can use this method to make cheaper. It’s not that much saved, the process I describe helps a lot with early progression when you don’t have the event rewards.
@@JamoosinYT is it possible to do Lomien with the free 15 star set or would it be necessary to wait 5 days to get real CRA that can be progressed further?
@@LawsofPaul it’s dependent on a lot of variables that go into your damage, but it’s likely you would be able to at least do enough damage in a party to participate and earn rewards. As for solo clearing it might be difficult
Is this reboot? I've heard ppl don't use transfer hammer in non-reboot
This is Reboot. Forgot to add that haha.
I play NA Reboot, so most of my advice is centered around solo progression. A lot of the video still applies for regular server, but things like trading for gear make the progression path quite different. Also, meso rates are very different.
what if you wanna keep the potential on you ab/cra gear? is there a way to tranfer starforce and keeping the potential?
There is not a way to keep the potential on the piece you are transferring to. If you already have potential on that item, starforce on it. The cost from cubing again would likely mitigate any benefit from transferring
Should i save my mesos for the SF event or spend it on the miracle time this upcoming saturday 07/02??
I would skip Saturdays miracle time event. It only applies to top, bottom, shoes and capes. Those are the last slots you should get legendary potential lines in because they are saturated with non desirable lines.
My overall recommendation would be to 17 star your gear first if you haven’t yet. This is a lot more consistent, and will have an incredibly noticeable impact on your character.
The exception is getting legendary for your weapons, emblem and gloves whenever that comes around. But remember the event only helps you get to legendary it doesn’t increase the odds of the lines you want. The starforce event will benefit all starforce progression and have an immediate stat impact.
Also, look out for the accessory miracle time event. Accessories can get legendary meso and drop lines. These lines are also critical for progression because it drastically speeds up acquiring nodes, mesos and boss drops.
A happy median might be to get legendary on the items you want during the miracle event and immediately stop cubing. Then use your mess to get desirable lines after the starforce event.
@@JamoosinYT Thank you!!
The guide i needed bro. Greetings from Perú🎉🎉
Happy to help out.
That’s awesome! Haven’t had the chance to visit Perú. Really cool to see people playing from all around the world :)
Ursus 1b+ I get like 30m only
Talking about across a couple weeks when there was a starforce event. Also on reboot.
whoa wait. you're in thrones?
Yep! Can’t say I’m the best guild member though 😅
i think ranmaru hard does not drop gear anymore
I definitely still get drops on my characters. Just tried and got 4 pieces on my main. Maybe you mean the crafting recipes?
@@JamoosinYT tried hard again but only dropped cape
@@dragongrandmaster it’s not guaranteed to get the pieces, just have to keep going each day. Drop rate is probably making a difference as well. Killing Ranmaru for crystals if you aren’t capping 180 a week is also helpful :)
@@JamoosinYT from ranmaru gear is nice if you dont know how to gear
@@dragongrandmaster now I’m confused. The use of the gear is to transfer hammer from pensalir to absolab. It’s cheaper and transfers up to epic potential. Went through the process of doing this in the video 😅
Comment!!!
Lmao you are a goon
@@JamoosinYT gotta help the Algo good buddy
Get back to work nerd
I have a question about prime scrolling - I’m still trying to wait out the reward shops protection scrolls to fully scroll my arcane weapon - should I just rush that in order to SF, or wait it out?
I’m not super familiar with scrolling in regular server, but I imagine it would depend on how much you value the time it takes to scroll / safety from protection scrolls versus the amount saved starforcing. You can always starforce off event. If you are going to 17 stars it’s a few hundred million mesos saved on event
mfw i play reg server