Absolutely. They're letting their flagship enterprise (Elder Scrolls) linger in near obscurity and definitely not giving Fallout it's due diligence, especially considering the momentum of it's success. All this in the name of Todd Howard's vanity projects... It's a sad day for these remarkable IPs.
I don't know.. Would these franchises get as shallow as Far Cry, Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty, Battlefield (...) if Bethesda releases an iteration of Elder Scrolls and Fallout every 2 or 3 years? And what will their modding communities become?
@@alexramos7708 @dinosirbone7605 All 3 main factions are chasing ghosts of the past and they're often criticized for it, letting go isn't the entire point, but it's a major one if not the biggest. All DLC add-ons also focus on this topic with even Honest Hearts, which initially feels like it won't do it this time due to barely any existence of pre old tech, being about how these tribals should be left to their own devices and create something new instead of trying in vain to follow the old and get the same results that got the world nuked in the first place. All of New Vegas is about letting go.
Honestly, the best way to do a Fallout show would be an anthology series. Each episode being a different story done by a different director. A “Tales of the Wasteland”. The possibilities would be endless. One episode could be about Randall Clarke. Another could be about the Blackhall family and the Krivbeknih. Breaking it up that way, they could tell so many stories, and each one would have it’s own unique style.
Episodic with all new characters would be the best imo. But you know it'll be the same story from one of the games, but they'll tweak freaking everything and change a bunch of stuff instead of leaving it how the actual story is. It'll probably be like Jon Hamm walking around as House pumping F.E.V. in his arm to stay young or some shit. Still, I'm hopeful they'll do it right.
The universe and pre war lore should stay as is but I think creating new characters, arcs and storylines would give it massive praise. I hope Prime would go the Edgerunners path.
I would either love a game that takes place in the most bombed hellhole, return of true apocalypse, but at the same time I don’t want to just go back in time. Like a whole game with landscape like The Pitt or Divide. Or the opposite - game where you are at the frontier of New California republic, seeing the society rebuild itself, the conflict of bring back the old world vs. create new one, some faction action, gangster action… just Fallout New Vegas with extra steps.
I actually would like to see a more built up wasteland. I’d love to see NYC but it’d be difficult to make with its towers not to mention there wouldn’t be a lot of nature areas. I also think it’d lack on irradiated creatures compared go Fallout 3 and 4.
Havent played fallout in a while, But can’t help but yearn for a Falllout 1 remake for modern consoles, even though I’ve never played it but know about its legendary status and story
I get the feeling if they did a remake for fallout 1 it would be like ff7 remake where they do one section of the game at a time in an open world format. Which would be fun but I don't want to start the game then have to wait years for the next section.
Would love to see 3D remakes of FO1 and 2, making them more in line with the rest. Really been wanting to check them out but I'm just not a huge fan of turn based combat and how punishing I've heard they are.
I've been telling people for years, we are not going to see Fallout again until the mid 2030s unless they change the way they develop games to allow for tandem development with multiple teams. They might contract another studio to work on it, like they did with New Vegas, but the trick there was that Obsidian was given all the assets and code for Fallout 3 as a baseline. If they hand the IP off to someone else, it will be considerably more expensive and considerably slower because that studio would need to build the game from the ground up (mostly). Even TESVI is probably not going to hit shelves until 2029 or 2030.
Last I remember ES6 was still just in pre production so 2029 or 2030 is probably right. Bethesda has spent so much time on FO76 and ESO they could have had new games for both series out by now if they put half the effort into the single player games.
@@legionkahn Pretty sure ESO is handled by Zenimax and 76 isn't handled by BGS. Starfield has been their main project since 2015 because they want to make it massive.
I wish Microsoft would step in and just have another studio make some games. Even though obsidian is too busy right now, I mentioned this in another comment why not have in exile work on it hell they could make the truth spiritual successor, to what Van Buren would’ve been given how good wasteland 2 and 3 are
Personally, Im hoping they pick a more significant location like Chicago, Detroit or even Canada. The Ronto was hinted at in Fallout 3's The Pitt. Ronto clearly being Toronto, Canada. I'd really be interested in seeing the Fallout apocalypse during the winter/snow setting.
Lol look I'm from Detroit and always hearing people mention that being a choice location would be fucking awful, there is literally nothing here worth of value to make a game around, yeah we got crackheads which are basically ghouls and empty lots and vastly destroyed neighborhoods, but that's about it, nothing of being worthy.
@@joshuavidrine889 lmao that's the joke yes 😂 tbh me and a friend love new vegas an make the joke daily, scrap yards and run down neighborhoods, old shops closing or closed etc.. Hell even a call of duty game makes a joke at our expense, the joke was "Damn they really did a number to Detroit." Another marine responds- "What do you mean, it doesn't look any different then how it usually does." Shit was hilarious lol
@@chriscormac231 that sounds infinitely better than Detroit, tbh I'm sure any location you've never been to sounds exciting, but living their is different in some cases.
I'm surprised to hear you say you're excited about fallout: London. I hope it ends up being the game/mod we all want it to be. Always good to see a mantis video.
I hope the London mod or the Miami mod reach completion. Skyrim has had mods of this size coming for over a decade. The list of mods like this for Oblivion that we never even got to see. Mods of this scale have such a low chance of completion then on release their on a game that's graphically 15 years behind other games.
Given the way the ungrateful assholes in the community shat on all the work that went into The Frontier and New California, I can see why mod devs would be unmotivated to finish.
Yeah work on something for years just for Bethesda to cease and desist you into not making it anymore because THEY OWN FALLOUT as gamers we need to stop modders from this shit or at least not give them money
There's already plenty Fallout clones on the market that I love and most fallout fans would too if they discovered them. Atom RPG is Fallout 1/2 to a tee set in Russia. Same vibe, atmosphere, UI and combat. Underrail is basically fallout 1 with more of a focus on combat. There's the Wasteland series as well which feels the most fallout to me. Just look around and you'll find many other "Fallout" games by other devs with a burning passion for their creations unlike bug-thesda. I'm not a no mutants allowed guy but after fallout 76 came out, I just hoped they'd crash and burn and sell off the series to somebody else. Bethesda is inapplicable of making good fallout games. Fallout 3 and 4 are trash but somewhat okay. 76 is complete garbage all around even with the changes they've made. The Indie devs making these spin off, fallout inspired games do way better with their lore and RPG elements imo.
I'd give a special shoutout to Old World Blues. a total conversion mod for Hearts of Iron IV. Grand Strategy might not be the favorite of every fallout player, but the mod has a ton of starting factions both canon and semi-canon, and is extremely lore friendly. It also starts before 2277, allowing you to explore alternate history scenarios within fallout itself like playing as the Mojave Brotherhood under Father Elijah and successfully defending HELIOS and taking over Big MT and the Sierra Madre or playing as Legate Lanius becoming the Monster of the East and consolidating the lands of New Mexico and Colorado before deciding to form a rival legion to Caesar's own.
Tempted to wonder if the reason they don't want another studio to make Fallout is that they don't want to be shown up again like they were with New Vegas.
If they cared about NV they would've learned from it. But instead they double down with their mentality and continue to strip Fallout of it's roleplaying elements. Forced protagonist voice. Forced character background & family. Less npc dialogue & dialogue choices. All they care about is mainstream accessibility, hand holding people and giving them cheap dopamine.
It's hard to compete with the original creators of the Fallout IP. Several main devs in Obsidian were devs in Interplay, this is why FONV felt so superior to the Bethesda releases.
@@Auso572let’s not forget how Bethesda completely removed item durability in Fallout. 4, a whole gameplay mechanic and perk system, which also gave the player another reason to loot weapons.
You can't just say sorry for selling a broken game, denying refunds, The Duffle Kerfuffle, the awful rum, positively reviewing your own merch before it's even on sale...
yea well i dont blame them, theyre wasting their time on Starflop when noone wants that trash, noone is excited or hyped. We want Elder scrolls 6 already, or some fallout. Like i assure you noone is excited for starfart compared to the potential hype for elder scrolls 6 or even a new vegas remaster. Theyve been wasting years on this game that nobody cares for and will end up probably being a small or dead community. Who the hell is wants them to waste ALL of their time for this uninteresting game. Just for us to have to wait 10 years for the game we all really care for. I hope they force them to dump out this poopy ahhh star wars rip off game
I truly hope so. After fo4 it's hard to believe that them taking more time improves anything. The institute is the perfect glaring example of taking more time doesn't equal better content.
I've spent my teenage years on New Vegas, and if there's one thing I dream of is a NV 2, or at least a new title following up on its story (and developed by Obsidian). Pipe dream here too.. I at least hope the Fallout 4 NV Project is still ongoing and will see the light of day.
None of the people who made NV great are still with Obsidian unfortunately. They'd still probably do a better job than Bethesda but that's a REALLY low bar to clear.
A literal New Vegas 2 would suck since it would require the devs to establish a canon instead of letting the player establish their own. A follow up would definitely be the better choice here.
For the entirety of my twenties, I have not seen the release of a new mainline fallout or elder scrolls game. I'll be 28 this year. These games shaped my childhood, and then abruptly stopped being released as I entered adulthood. If bethesda wants to make two games per human lifetime, thats up to them. But if another dev wants to take the wheel, I'm okay with that. I'm so tired of waiting.
As someone once said. People need to get less attached to companies and more attached to the individuals working at that company. (Granted im guilty of it to) Obsidian most likely isn't the same people as once wrote fallout. And if they are they've changed if outer ... worlds? Wilds? Is any indication. (I forget which is which cause both came out at the same frickin time!) Anyway the one they worked on despite being a commercial success eventually people wised up and realized. Wait this game actually kinda sucks. So we can't expect them to absolutely nail every fallout game from now on even if they did get the license. On the flipside. It's not entirely impossible for Bethesda to get things right from now on. I have my issues with microsoft but them being over Tod might make him a bit more serious in the quality department.
I get that nostalgia can be a bitch but Outerworlds was mid at best and even if Obsidian would get another shot with Fallout, i bet most of that team who worked on NV isnt working in Obsidian now
Makes me so sad that the non-76 future of fallout is like 2035 at best. And "mods to the rescue" ...but im on console lol. Its just crazy that i was 24 when F4 came out and ill be lucky to be playing F5 in my 40s 😂. How did we go from getting 3, NV, and 4 in a 7 year span to nothing [meaningful] for the next ~20 years.
I hope the game finishes and they make it single player or at least offline, where you can play alone without a server connection. It's a pipe dream for sure but man I'd be amazing
I've always felt fallout should expand into books, TV, and movies. I just wish we would get more games. Not a ton to where it would dilute the meaning of them. But not one every 10 years either
One thing that gives me hope about the show is the writers of Westworld left to work on Fallout and the first couple seasons of Westworld were bangers and they were set in desert themes. Not exactly the same. But like I said silver linings here
They need to get daddy Microsoft to pay for a Bethesda Fallout Team, a Bethesda Elder Scrolls Team, and a Bethesda New IP Team. The fact that we're all but guaranteed to go a decade+ between major installment releases for these series is utterly inane.
The problem with 76 isn't the rough launch, its the free-to-play mechanics that are present in a game you have to pay for. the Ammo Box and Scrap Box completely turns the game off for me. and I play 76 every single day. You aren't able to enjoy the game the way most people do simply because they pay extra every month even though you bought the game at full price.
With those TV series, they're either incredible or massive flops, it depends on where their priorities lie, if they are dedicated to the source material and not an agenda, then we may see something truly great.
A lot of people like that stupid ring show. Personally I thought the books were boring as fuck. I thought the movies were tired ass Wizards and warlocks shit and I don't understand wanting to hate what other people like. I understand people really like Lord of the Rings in that shit so I keep myself to myself
@@HamzahShoaibmy friend the races of the actors is not an issue. The story being dogshit that ignores what little material they were legally allowed to use is the problem. Its like if I made a prequel to star wars and made yoda a penguin who did crack and knew everything someone else should know. Interesting story but it wouldn't be SW.
I will legitimately probably be like 32-35 when fallout 5 comes out 💀💀. That is INSANE to me. It feels not that long ago I was only 11 playing New Vegas for the first time again, shortly after picking up Fallout 3 GOTY and I’ve been addicted ever since 🤙🏾
While I love the bleakness of Fallout 1, and part of me wants Fallout to go back to its roots in some ways, I feel like just trying to emulate the past unsettling setting of Fallout would just not fit with the current reality. Gritty Post Apocalypse has been just so present in many games (and other media), and I just feel like it's become saturated? When I think of it, I kinda want a Fallout setting that starts out bleak (and keeping the "vibe" of the old Fallout), but that kinda gives hope too, it's been 200+ years since the Great War, I like the idea of rebuilding and a bit of a switch to solarpunk, not forced on players mind you, but offering this as an option to players, the possibility to join a faction who works towards sustainability rather than domination over others (and the environment), it can be a really positive take on things, the world ended but after all this time and effort, it's still possible to actually make things better in a way that isn't just "use geck to terraform" But that's my personal hopes and ideas, I'm aware that's probably not what a lot of people want
As for the music available for the radio stations, Fallout New Orleans could be fabulous. You have such period pioneers as Clifton Chenier, Louis “Satchmo” Armstrong (with his collaborations with Bing Crosby), just to scratch the surface. Would love to have Dr. John, but he and others might be too modern and expensive. Then there are the monsters like more gatorclaws and those developed from the alligator snapping turtle and others like Nutrias. The territory as well, Big Easy up to Vicksburg as well as the eastern and western areas. There could be a whole subculture based upon the “tribes”. Very flamboyant.
Fallout location ideas: -All of Texas and some of Mexico -china(prewar prequel) -New York -New Orleans -Chicago/Detroit -Anchorage(prewar prequel)* -Yellowstone -Great Lakes Region -Eastern expansion(NCR spreads to the rest of the country and game will end after reclaiming America) *Note: a more accurate perspective as Operation Anchorage was US propaganda
If I was Bethesda I would work on the Creation Club engine/mechanics to allow larger story type content to be added. Then you could have multiple modders making official DLC sized purchasable content for Skyrim and Fallout 4. This will extend the lives of these games considerably until the next game release into the two franchise's. Like what if Sim Settlement's 2 was a full blown free official DLC?
Todd not being comfortable with another studio working on the IP? Bro… last time that happened they literally made THE BEST fallout game to date. Man… I really want a New Vegas 2 😭
At this point, we can only hope the Fallout series is critically and commercially successful enough that it puts pressure on Bethesda to capitalize on that success and decide to release a new installment in the video game series, whether that is making it themselves or contracting it out to Obsidian.
You know what I reckon? New postapocalyptic games. Now I dunno whether mad max movies were basically a carving stone, so to speak, for first Fallout but it was a huge inspiration for the game nonetheless. Nowadays what do we have? TLOU tv show and probably a Fallout tv show - there is a big chance that like back in 90s, when there was some post apocalyptic movies and shows, then these two shows might boost an interest in postapo, more people get onvested in and thus more game developing teams and developers might shift their interest - now I love F3 the most and F NV too because I think that apart from F4 and F76, your freedom to EXPLORE is somehow justified and limitless and even expected, I think, but when playing F4 on PS4, I felt like the environment does not have much to offer to me, and even the characters and dialogues felt somehow off, soulless I almost want to say. And yeah, I do realise that an open world game is a lot of work, a huge lots of factors which together combined have to click and thus there is a lot of things which might go wrong, but still, although I love Fallout series, I hope for some more indenpendent studio to come up with a new banger as I feel that F1 & F2 are so amazing is because it was still a relatively fresh idea and the devs and their motivation was probably "how do we make this original? what kind of little details do we piece together to make this whole thing interesting?"
I own fallout 76 and I thinks it’s enjoyable with friends. But I’m not into multiplayer games and live service games so it’s not really my cup of tea I really want another single player one.
The future of the fallout series is nothing but a corporate nightmare Fallout will go the way of COD and will only be made for the lowest common denominator If you are an actual fallout fan then you need to except the series that you once loved is dead And in its place will be a sanitized and by the books corporate skin suit.
Already accepted that years ago, so now I just spend my time combing through the lore and actual real-world history and culture to build a much more Fallout-accurate, expansive tabletop setting. Speaking of, the Modiphius Fallout 2d20 ttrpg is half-baked and needed a lot of extra work to really capture the game and its setting in its system.
There needs to be some kind of rule enforced on companies that if they own a game franchise they need to publish at least 1 mainline game every 5 years or else they will be forced to sell the rights. What's the point of having the rights to make games for a franchise when that's never the goal it's just so frustrating waiting and waiting and waiting just for absolutely nothing
If Bethesda was forced to sell the rights to Fallout, don't even think that Obsidian would have a shot to buy them back. It'd have massive companies trying to get it first, like Ubisoft, Tencent, even EA, just because the Fallout mark is so profitable even if they have no experience with a game like that. Bethesda may not be the best, but the others who could buy the IP are far worse, Bethesda at least knows how to properly build up a world, even if their writing sucks, and Obsidian does not have the money to buy the rights for Fallout if any other big company jumps in to buy it as well.
@@OwnZar I hear you but a company shouldn't be allowed to just sit on their a$$ and put out next to nothing. If they're not capable of putting out new games for people to play then they shouldn't be responsible for the rights anymore that's how I feel and if they can then f*****g do it, I think this would finally put the pressure on companies like Bethesda to start actually caring instead of just selling Skyrim for the 200th time
@@farawaytundra008 Bethesda is pumping out new content for Fallout, Fallout 76 keeps getting new updates and now they are making a TV series. Not to mention that they are working on another 2 series at the same time. Do you prefer polished content every 6-8 years or rushed out like Fallout 76 was? Fallout 4 and 76 have enough content to keep us entertained until Fallout 5 or the TV series come around, but faster content would not equal to quality content. If the content they are pumping right now is not up to your liking that'd be another story, but they are not sitting on their asses doing nothing.
@@OwnZar I don't know why they even bother with Fallout 76 that game should've never been made and it's even dumber that they waste time trying to update it for who? the couple hundred people that like a copy paste online Fallout 4. That time could've and should've went to anything else. Skyrim was 12 years ago and Fallout 4 was 8 years ago between Fallout 4 and today there should've been at least 2 mainline entries I don't know how anyone can argue against that. There's no excuse for this. Fallout should easily be put out every 4 to 5 years and it's sounding like they need another 6 or 7 years on top of an 8 year wait it's not acceptable. New Vegas didn't even have half of the time I think is reasonable to make a Fallout and it's arguably the best one so why do these people need 20 f*****g years to make something? If they are spread too thin and don't have the manpower to keep up then give it up it's that simple.
Microsoft has the trifecta of Fallout teams, Bethesda, Obsidian, and InXile. They should attempt a Call of Duty development cycle between those 3 studios, with one working on a new Fallout, the other studios working on something else, than once that title is released, the next studio works on the next game after their current game is done, and around it goes.
I really dislike this whole notion of "ELdEr sCrOLLs 6 WiLL tAkE 10YeaR!!!1" Todd sayed himself that after the growth of the company there are going to release games at the same development time. 3 to 5 years.
@@silvestresanchez2525 Eastern Texas would be especially interesting. I'd like to see maybe the praries running wild and free... or maybe I just wanna see Katy get nuked lol
A friend of mine says Fallout 76 is his favorite Fallout game now. I was floored by that, but he sas it's gotten a lot better than it was at launch. I'll have to check it out some day...
Last I played I actually enjoyed it a little more than fallout 4 tbh and it is in a much more playable state plus has a very friendly and helpful community. It may be far from perfect but it's got what I wanted, an official Bethesda RPG(lite) you can play with your friends for the most part.
Believe it or not the dialogue system is better than New Vegas and gives me a lot of hope for Starfield. They even added stuff not in NV like special checks and unique checks if you have a low enough stat.
I think the next elder scrolls will be the deciding factor on fallouts future. If a bethesda single player experience game crushes it and makes money then maybe the next fallout is a return to form. My fear is battlepass, live service, in game store for boosts bullshit
I really really wanted to like F76. But the bullet sponge is so bad that 1 and half mags are needed to drop slightly above basic enemies. Not enough supplies to maintain weapons and power armor at level 50. The main mission raiding fort knox is completely bricked on my save. I just cant play the game anymore. Except when I'm bored on occasion and remember it exists.
Microsoft and Bethesda are holding Fallout hostage. Don't even get me started on Elder Scrolls. A game every 20 years looks on the cards at this point. Ridiculous.
What i wanted from next fallout games: 1. We play our own main campaign than predetermined main quest. So we can be NCR, BOS, Enclave, Institute, Vault Dweller, Raiders, etc. That actually determined the fate of our worldspaces. 2. Have FONV features such as Disguise, gunplay, training to do PA, factions, some unique consequences each word choices, reputations, survival, etc. 3. Have skyrim features like leveling system while we using the skill, melee combat, having animals as pets/transport, BF/GF to marry, have beautiful world moment to chill, etc. 4. Have FO4 settlement building but with actual snapping grip that make settlement easier to build, not too dependent to players to progress/survive, have companion progress dialogues and benefits, Have huge PA, have vertibirds, have customizations for armor/weapons, have good radio with host, etc. 5. Have more choices in our personality like badass, evil, heroic, retarded, intellect, charming, stoic, etc. Than predetermined answers. 6. Have multiple ways to complete mission/quest that really possible, full protagonist, full evil, full genocide, full pacifist. 7. Have more detailed character maker and diverse in npc. Like different heights, weights, body builds, ages, skin color, hair color, etc. 8. While FO4 give many customizations in weapons they are dull in cooking, armor, chems, etc. Give true freedoms. Like making our own chems from ingredient found in wild/materials, make armor available to vanilla clothing or even make our own clothing and can be concealed or padded while having drawbacks, explosives with smoke/sharpnel/poison/gas/flashbang/corrosives, etc. 9. Have more than 1 companion and actually filled roles like scouts, tank, sniper, versatile, assassin, hacker/breacher. Also make their AI not that passive responding to enemies, interest, and uniques. 10. Have populated world that not just huge but dense. I rather have similar size to FO4 but it filled with life and tbings to do than huge empty wasteland with nothing happens. Also whatever NPC does we can do that too. Major problems with open world game not made by rockstar lmao. 11. Have seamless indoor/outdoor. Also more buildings to enter than placeholders with no purposes. 12. Have better mods support, performances, stability, and bug free since they really rely on CK and with this current era some of their problems is unacceptable in gaming standards. 12 of these already fix major issues for me.
I'm with you minus #10. It's the post apocalypse and we're trying to survive it like others with little neighborhoods. Better/darker atmosphere would be nice as well. Basically, don't let Bethesda make any games. Their one good game was Skyrim. Everything else they've touched or done is near trash. Basically, I'd like F.A.L.L.O.U.T. All the atmosphere, darkness, and player insignificance to the world like S.T.A.L.K.E.R. but the lore and "fun" that FO3 and FONV offered.
Too long of a wait to even care. The wait for ES6 is a joke too. The fact that they insist on prioritizing starfield over it just proves how little they care what most people want. They've become easy to hate
I have to say: I’m one of those OG Fallout fans who was absolutely opposed to the idea of 76. Combined with the disastrous launch, retcons, lore breaks, and borderline pay-to-win microtransactions, I had absolutely no plans to ever play this game… Until I downloaded it for free on PSN a couple months ago. I absolutely love the game. It’s not on the same level as New Vegas (obviously) nor F3 for that matter, but it has a lot going for it. The map/game world is easily the best Bethesda has ever made. It’s huge, it’s dense, it’s full of content, and it’s very unique and interesting. The only real issue I have is the weight limit. Fallout 1st is damn near a necessity at this point. I don’t mind paying for it for a couple months, but only because I’m having a lot of fun, I got the game for free and had a PSN gift card.
I’d like to see some sort of Co-Op in the future. Maybe one players is a host and can have 1-3 “Mercenaries” where the merc are other players. The host is the only one that can complete quests in their pipboy but the Mercs will still get XP from kills and quests, Caps, and Equipment while playing.
It would be totally awesome if two players could play on the same map/game and quests' outcomes are somehow 'merged'. Imagine playing with a friend cooperative or not that cooperative at all. You could have a co-op playthrough online, and local playthroughs for your own. Imagine the stories, man! And no: this has nothing to do with Fallout 76, that monetized gameplay reduced theme park online bragging vehicle.
We don't need a Fallout Oklahoma, a Fallout San Francisco, or a Fallout based on any single location. What we need is "Fallout America". If Xenimax can make an Elder Scrolls map the size of a planet, them A Fallout game can be made the size of the continental United States- scaled down somewhat, of course.
It'll never see the light of day- or by the time it's released, it will qualify as shareware. I say this as someone who very much wants to see a new Fallout title. The mods are generally too ambitious and have to few people working on them. Cascadia for example looks outstanding, but it's been in development since 2016. I wish them all well, but they're all just taking far too long.
@@manilajohn0182 lmao, tell me you have no idea what you’re talking about without telling me you have no idea what your talking about. Fo4NV is very far into development and give frequent updates to their community and even release stand alone mods frequently as well following an event calendar. As well as they have stated on multiple occasions in that they do not plan to ever specify a release date so they don’t have to rush to meet such a deadline, they’re taking their time and it will still be considerably less time than however long it takes Bethesda to release another fallout.
@@BigDeal0716 I'll just tell you that you have no idea what you're talking about. The mod is nowhere near finished, my friend. They ran into a roadblock because they weren't allowed to use the original voice actor's voice in the mod. That will cost them money or time- possibly both. Periodic updates, you say? Their youtube channel hasn't posted a video in two years. They're not posting a release date because they haven't the slightest idea when- or even if- the mod will be finished.
@@BigDeal0716 You claim that I didn't read the article- then you acknowledge in the same sentence that the article said that the FO4NV team can't use the original voice actors just like I told you. Give your brain a chance. In the meantime, they haven't updated their youtube page in over two years, although they've been working on the project for over five years. If you'd rather ignore that and believe everything that they type on their discord, then go ahead and play the fool. You're off to a great start.
@@manilajohn0182 no, you said they ran into a roadblock because they couldn’t use the original voices, and I told you that was Fo4 Capital Wasteland, Fo4NV learned from their mistakes and had to change their plans. And again you bring up their TH-cam channel, I guess third times the charm, is that the only form of media that counts these days? I guess so
We def need dedicated teams for different franchises, with star field coming out they're just spread way too thin especially for how cult of a following they have. Can't wait for the show!
I think the best thing Bethesda can do is make a new single player spinoff with some other studio outside of Maryland BGS. Bethesda/zenimax/microsoft has lots of studios that could do this using Fallout 4 and maybe even some 76 assets. New Orleans would be a great location.
*"it'll take another 5, 6, 7 years to launch another fallout game"* Look I don't even think I'll be playing videogames in 7 years the way life is going.
I cant wait to see the mod-remakes of Fallout 3 (Fallout 4 Capital Wasteland) and Fallout New Vegas (Fallout 4 New Vegas) in Fallout 4 tbh Yeah, i know they're not "something new" to Fallout, but getting to see those two in a FO4 skin is exiting to me.
In my experience most players won’t attack you, they’ll just buy stuff from your vendor you set up at your camp. So you’re free to explore and do missions.
One thing you forgot to mention in regards to new content is this year we are getting a next gen update to fallout 4 which will come with exclusive Creation club content akin to the skyrim special edtions.
The way I see it is Fallout 4 and FO76 are two sides of the same coin. I play F76 with my friends and we do events together in a wacky Fallout-themed amusement park. I mod and play FO4 when I want to delve into interesting stories and game-play. I didn't always see it this way, TBH. I was an early adopter and even bought the Rum, but my relationship with 76 was strained and sporadic. I would compare the story content to 4/NV or even my favorite mods and feel let down. That ended when I embraced the tribe and started playing with a group of people through a Discord server. I found the fun in Fallout 76 through the power of "friendship." The real deal is that there are many camps of Fallout fans and there is about to be a whole new category of fan -- TV watchers. There will probably be plenty of crossover, of course but a non-zero number of those new fans won't have played any of the games at all. Is that cool? Will that create more Fallout for everyone? I hope so and I plan on giving it a fair chance to earn my fandom the old-fashioned way: by making a great show.
FO76 was unacceptable at launch and mutated several times in several different cash grabs until we’ve stumbled upon what it is today. Today it is nearly unrecognizable as a Fallout game and those who do enjoy it would even admit it is far from a typical FO game. To a large percentage of the fanbase it represents an unacceptable deviation from what the series is. FO4 was audacious in many of its changes but I would say most of them worked out fine if only the game would have invested more in story and dialogue. This is why so many fans agree FNV and/or FO3 are superior games. Just because a small population of the fanbase enjoys a game does not make it acceptable Edit: the only way forward for this series is a return to what made the franchise so popular. Excellent dialogue and characters, a plentiful map, and enjoyable combat all mixed within a post apocalyptic 50’s theme. I don’t think anyone cares how long it takes but this is what is needed
I have as Vodun said let go. Its sad for me losing my favorite game franchise. It was wounded in Fo4 and has died since. I will keep replaying Fo3 and Fnv.
The show should start before the bombs drop, the mad rush to the vault, like FO4. Then with narration, show a wide range of vaults across the capital wasteland, mojave & Boston (that shows the new fans just how messed up Vault Tec is & what kind of tv show this will be) If they were to rip a storyline from game to tv, FO3 would be best.
The most fun that I've had in Fallout 76 was doing a Roleplay playthrough, I literally walked everywhere, only ran or jogged when I needed to, slept at night- and gleamed every bit of lore that I could since the Wastelanders update. You can enjoy a SP experience on the game, the problem is people want to hate things now- often over small changes. After all... War never changes. Oh, another note: The last Fallout title that Obsidian worked on was completed in 18 months, not 5, 6, or 7 years. Devs from Interplay head of Obsidian, they understand the IP very well, because they created it.
What sucks is that if the fallout show ends up being bad, that’s literally it for the franchise. That would be 3 straight bad iterations of the fallout world and at that point it would pretty much confirm that Bethesda has lost what they had when they made fallout 3. I’m actually surprised Bethesda gets the recognition they do because other than fallout 3 and the elder scrolls franchise they literally have not delivered anything that validates it. I can guarantee that if the fallout show flops that’s literally it for fallout. No one is waiting 10 years for a 90% chance at more disappointment
I still can not understand why the took a game series that found it's success in single player, story driven experiences and turned it into whatever the hell 76 is. The worst part is that since the original Fallout, these games have proven themselves to be classics. Timeless even. 30 years later I can still play the original games. 30 years from now, I doubt Fallout 76 players will be able to say the same thing. I will never play 76 for this reason. It's not Fallout, it's not timeless and ultimately (regardless of how well it does) someday soon, it simply won't exist anymore. I can still play the original Wasteland for Pete's sake.
I love Fallout in the whole of the franchise. But, the older Fallout games have had a special place in my heart. 76 is fun, I do enjoy playing with friends, but solo its meh. I love Fallout 3 and New Vegas, and would enjoy another Fallout game that doesn't require internet to enjoy. I've mentioned to a friend before about a Fallout game that isn't set in the United States, but maybe Canada. I want to see how the atomic explosions affected places that weren't directly hit (I know Fallout 76 involves an area that wasn't directly hit, but they are still part of the U.S.) Just ideas, I love Fallout, I always have. Keep up the videos! They're awesome.
i really enjoy FO76. mostly playing solo too. only thing that doesnt "feel" like fallout is the multiplayer aspect. other than that, its exactly what i would have wanted from an online fallout game.
It's funny how the most Braindead Activity, watching TV, is seen as sophisticated and brings People to enjoy IPs. Much like how The Mandalorian made Star Wars Popular to a large Audience instead of being a Punchline about Grown Men living in their Parents Basement. The Joy of Fallout 76 to me, is the great Writing and Expansion of the Universe. I'm just sad that they had to make it a MMO.
And for those of you who don't know what Fallout is: radioactive particles that are carried into the atmosphere after a nuclear explosion or accident and gradually fall back as dust or in precipitation
The thing is Obsidian are beasts at pumping out high quality content in record time. They barely had a year and they still made a title on par with the originals. Todd Howard thinks he made Fallout great just by buying it, I'd like to smack him upside the head.
One of us out there may one day create a game that succeeds this franchise, I myself wish to one day create a retrofuture apocalypse title, but you never know. Either the franchise continues or it dies.
Honestly I dont want another Obsidian Fallout, they made The Outer Worlds with a much different team than with New Vegas and although the consistent use of skills in dialogue/gameplay with stuff like low intelligence but high science and the like was nice, the gameplay and story felt weak as shit. FNVs story was better than its gameplay but it still felt good cause of how crazy strong the guns could get.
Bethesda needs dedicated teams for Fallout and Elder Scrolls
Hard agree, Bethesda needs to stop acting like a boutique developer
Absolutely. They're letting their flagship enterprise (Elder Scrolls) linger in near obscurity and definitely not giving Fallout it's due diligence, especially considering the momentum of it's success. All this in the name of Todd Howard's vanity projects... It's a sad day for these remarkable IPs.
Your mom has a dedicated team for my wiener
Almost like blizzard but in a actual acceptable way
I don't know..
Would these franchises get as shallow as Far Cry, Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty, Battlefield (...) if Bethesda releases an iteration of Elder Scrolls and Fallout every 2 or 3 years?
And what will their modding communities become?
Waiting for a new Fallout "thing" is not the hard part, it's letting go.
It's letting go..of entire franchise.
Feels like the entire point of New Vegas. Let go of the series and build something new.
@@SciontheDark That is the point of Dead Money, not the point of New Vegas at all.
@@SciontheDark uh no that's the point of dead money
@@alexramos7708 @dinosirbone7605 All 3 main factions are chasing ghosts of the past and they're often criticized for it, letting go isn't the entire point, but it's a major one if not the biggest.
All DLC add-ons also focus on this topic with even Honest Hearts, which initially feels like it won't do it this time due to barely any existence of pre old tech, being about how these tribals should be left to their own devices and create something new instead of trying in vain to follow the old and get the same results that got the world nuked in the first place.
All of New Vegas is about letting go.
@@trabuco9no it isn't. Take your fanfiction to No Mutants Allowed, they love fanfiction.
Honestly, the best way to do a Fallout show would be an anthology series. Each episode being a different story done by a different director. A “Tales of the Wasteland”. The possibilities would be endless. One episode could be about Randall Clarke. Another could be about the Blackhall family and the Krivbeknih. Breaking it up that way, they could tell so many stories, and each one would have it’s own unique style.
I agree very much, but I personally would prefer they leave existing stories as is and focus on creating new characters and stories.
Episodic with all new characters would be the best imo. But you know it'll be the same story from one of the games, but they'll tweak freaking everything and change a bunch of stuff instead of leaving it how the actual story is. It'll probably be like Jon Hamm walking around as House pumping F.E.V. in his arm to stay young or some shit. Still, I'm hopeful they'll do it right.
The universe and pre war lore should stay as is but I think creating new characters, arcs and storylines would give it massive praise.
I hope Prime would go the Edgerunners path.
No
@@bottleflaskan802 well, you’re welcome to your wrong opinion, lol.
I would either love a game that takes place in the most bombed hellhole, return of true apocalypse, but at the same time I don’t want to just go back in time. Like a whole game with landscape like The Pitt or Divide.
Or the opposite - game where you are at the frontier of New California republic, seeing the society rebuild itself, the conflict of bring back the old world vs. create new one, some faction action, gangster action… just Fallout New Vegas with extra steps.
Why not just go for METRO or S.T.A.L.K.E.R.?? They're the best alternatives to Fallout.
I actually would like to see a more built up wasteland. I’d love to see NYC but it’d be difficult to make with its towers not to mention there wouldn’t be a lot of nature areas. I also think it’d lack on irradiated creatures compared go Fallout 3 and 4.
Havent played fallout in a while, But can’t help but yearn for a Falllout 1 remake for modern consoles, even though I’ve never played it but know about its legendary status and story
I get the feeling if they did a remake for fallout 1 it would be like ff7 remake where they do one section of the game at a time in an open world format. Which would be fun but I don't want to start the game then have to wait years for the next section.
I know there's a mod for FO4 that's in work to make Fallout.
Would love to see 3D remakes of FO1 and 2, making them more in line with the rest. Really been wanting to check them out but I'm just not a huge fan of turn based combat and how punishing I've heard they are.
I've been telling people for years, we are not going to see Fallout again until the mid 2030s unless they change the way they develop games to allow for tandem development with multiple teams. They might contract another studio to work on it, like they did with New Vegas, but the trick there was that Obsidian was given all the assets and code for Fallout 3 as a baseline. If they hand the IP off to someone else, it will be considerably more expensive and considerably slower because that studio would need to build the game from the ground up (mostly). Even TESVI is probably not going to hit shelves until 2029 or 2030.
Last I remember ES6 was still just in pre production so 2029 or 2030 is probably right. Bethesda has spent so much time on FO76 and ESO they could have had new games for both series out by now if they put half the effort into the single player games.
@@legionkahn isn't ESO in the hands of another studio?
@@legionkahn Pretty sure ESO is handled by Zenimax and 76 isn't handled by BGS. Starfield has been their main project since 2015 because they want to make it massive.
I wish Microsoft would step in and just have another studio make some games. Even though obsidian is too busy right now, I mentioned this in another comment why not have in exile work on it hell they could make the truth spiritual successor, to what Van Buren would’ve been given how good wasteland 2 and 3 are
Bethesda needs to get their shit together
Personally, Im hoping they pick a more significant location like Chicago, Detroit or even Canada.
The Ronto was hinted at in Fallout 3's The Pitt. Ronto clearly being Toronto, Canada.
I'd really be interested in seeing the Fallout apocalypse during the winter/snow setting.
Lol look I'm from Detroit and always hearing people mention that being a choice location would be fucking awful, there is literally nothing here worth of value to make a game around, yeah we got crackheads which are basically ghouls and empty lots and vastly destroyed neighborhoods, but that's about it, nothing of being worthy.
@@red_menace1829 So what you're saying is it's already a Fallout location
Kansas City would be better than Detroit
@@joshuavidrine889 lmao that's the joke yes 😂 tbh me and a friend love new vegas an make the joke daily, scrap yards and run down neighborhoods, old shops closing or closed etc..
Hell even a call of duty game makes a joke at our expense, the joke was
"Damn they really did a number to Detroit."
Another marine responds-
"What do you mean, it doesn't look any different then how it usually does."
Shit was hilarious lol
@@chriscormac231 that sounds infinitely better than Detroit, tbh I'm sure any location you've never been to sounds exciting, but living their is different in some cases.
I'm surprised to hear you say you're excited about fallout: London. I hope it ends up being the game/mod we all want it to be. Always good to see a mantis video.
I hope the London mod or the Miami mod reach completion. Skyrim has had mods of this size coming for over a decade. The list of mods like this for Oblivion that we never even got to see. Mods of this scale have such a low chance of completion then on release their on a game that's graphically 15 years behind other games.
Given the way the ungrateful assholes in the community shat on all the work that went into The Frontier and New California, I can see why mod devs would be unmotivated to finish.
@@XH1927 lol ok bro
@@TKsMantis hey you didn't mention the Fallout new vegas and Capital wasteland mods for Fallout 4
@@pracitus That's because those are still vaporware, unlike NC and Frontier. Fallout 4 mods are a joke.
We'll probably be dead and gone when the next fallout releases. Might as well start making our own lol
I'd sincerely love to see the ashes 2063/afterglow devs do a short fallout game.
Yeah work on something for years just for Bethesda to cease and desist you into not making it anymore because THEY OWN FALLOUT as gamers we need to stop modders from this shit or at least not give them money
@@popcorn8743 What do you mean?
There's already plenty Fallout clones on the market that I love and most fallout fans would too if they discovered them. Atom RPG is Fallout 1/2 to a tee set in Russia. Same vibe, atmosphere, UI and combat. Underrail is basically fallout 1 with more of a focus on combat. There's the Wasteland series as well which feels the most fallout to me. Just look around and you'll find many other "Fallout" games by other devs with a burning passion for their creations unlike bug-thesda. I'm not a no mutants allowed guy but after fallout 76 came out, I just hoped they'd crash and burn and sell off the series to somebody else. Bethesda is inapplicable of making good fallout games. Fallout 3 and 4 are trash but somewhat okay. 76 is complete garbage all around even with the changes they've made. The Indie devs making these spin off, fallout inspired games do way better with their lore and RPG elements imo.
Indie Fallout Like Games would be cool to see more off honestly!
I'd give a special shoutout to Old World Blues. a total conversion mod for Hearts of Iron IV. Grand Strategy might not be the favorite of every fallout player, but the mod has a ton of starting factions both canon and semi-canon, and is extremely lore friendly. It also starts before 2277, allowing you to explore alternate history scenarios within fallout itself like playing as the Mojave Brotherhood under Father Elijah and successfully defending HELIOS and taking over Big MT and the Sierra Madre or playing as Legate Lanius becoming the Monster of the East and consolidating the lands of New Mexico and Colorado before deciding to form a rival legion to Caesar's own.
Tempted to wonder if the reason they don't want another studio to make Fallout is that they don't want to be shown up again like they were with New Vegas.
Yes.
Guarantee you that is one of if not the primary reason.
They've made three games and all of them don't compare to NV.
If they cared about NV they would've learned from it. But instead they double down with their mentality and continue to strip Fallout of it's roleplaying elements. Forced protagonist voice. Forced character background & family. Less npc dialogue & dialogue choices. All they care about is mainstream accessibility, hand holding people and giving them cheap dopamine.
It's hard to compete with the original creators of the Fallout IP.
Several main devs in Obsidian were devs in Interplay, this is why FONV felt so superior to the Bethesda releases.
@@Auso572let’s not forget how Bethesda completely removed item durability in Fallout. 4, a whole gameplay mechanic and perk system, which also gave the player another reason to loot weapons.
You can't just say sorry for selling a broken game, denying refunds, The Duffle Kerfuffle, the awful rum, positively reviewing your own merch before it's even on sale...
with the Microsoft buying Activision deal in smoldering flames im gonna guess they will pressure Bethesda to make more than one game a decade
yea well i dont blame them, theyre wasting their time on Starflop when noone wants that trash, noone is excited or hyped. We want Elder scrolls 6 already, or some fallout. Like i assure you noone is excited for starfart compared to the potential hype for elder scrolls 6 or even a new vegas remaster. Theyve been wasting years on this game that nobody cares for and will end up probably being a small or dead community. Who the hell is wants them to waste ALL of their time for this uninteresting game. Just for us to have to wait 10 years for the game we all really care for. I hope they force them to dump out this poopy ahhh star wars rip off game
I truly hope so. After fo4 it's hard to believe that them taking more time improves anything. The institute is the perfect glaring example of taking more time doesn't equal better content.
@@Grimkeeper17 yes, bad writing is timeless...they need to fire Emil
I'm 67, so it's quite possible I'll be past my expiration date before Fallout 5 is released... I could go the Eddie Winter route. 😁
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I've spent my teenage years on New Vegas, and if there's one thing I dream of is a NV 2, or at least a new title following up on its story (and developed by Obsidian). Pipe dream here too.. I at least hope the Fallout 4 NV Project is still ongoing and will see the light of day.
None of the people who made NV great are still with Obsidian unfortunately. They'd still probably do a better job than Bethesda but that's a REALLY low bar to clear.
A literal New Vegas 2 would suck since it would require the devs to establish a canon instead of letting the player establish their own. A follow up would definitely be the better choice here.
the fallout Miami, fallout 4: new vegas and fallout london and fallout 1 and 2 recreation mods are the future, great modding community
For the entirety of my twenties, I have not seen the release of a new mainline fallout or elder scrolls game. I'll be 28 this year.
These games shaped my childhood, and then abruptly stopped being released as I entered adulthood.
If bethesda wants to make two games per human lifetime, thats up to them. But if another dev wants to take the wheel, I'm okay with that.
I'm so tired of waiting.
Why not just go for METRO or S.T.A.L.K.E.R.?? They're the best alternatives to Fallout.
@@mr.sinjin-smyth I like those but I play on Xbox.
@@mr.sinjin-smyth Metro is linear.
This. Fucking accurate dude. I'm absolutely tired of waiting decades for a game that can be made in 5.
@@mr.sinjin-smythmetro was so good
I just want obsidian to make Fallout
ehh did you play Outer Worlds? it was dog sh*t that made Fallout 4 look like a masterpiece
@@Sleepy.Time. Fr
As someone once said. People need to get less attached to companies and more attached to the individuals working at that company. (Granted im guilty of it to) Obsidian most likely isn't the same people as once wrote fallout. And if they are they've changed if outer ... worlds? Wilds? Is any indication. (I forget which is which cause both came out at the same frickin time!) Anyway the one they worked on despite being a commercial success eventually people wised up and realized. Wait this game actually kinda sucks. So we can't expect them to absolutely nail every fallout game from now on even if they did get the license.
On the flipside. It's not entirely impossible for Bethesda to get things right from now on. I have my issues with microsoft but them being over Tod might make him a bit more serious in the quality department.
Same
I get that nostalgia can be a bitch but Outerworlds was mid at best and even if Obsidian would get another shot with Fallout, i bet most of that team who worked on NV isnt working in Obsidian now
Makes me so sad that the non-76 future of fallout is like 2035 at best. And "mods to the rescue" ...but im on console lol. Its just crazy that i was 24 when F4 came out and ill be lucky to be playing F5 in my 40s 😂.
How did we go from getting 3, NV, and 4 in a 7 year span to nothing [meaningful] for the next ~20 years.
Yeah man, it truly boggles the mind.
I hope the game finishes and they make it single player or at least offline, where you can play alone without a server connection. It's a pipe dream for sure but man I'd be amazing
I've always felt fallout should expand into books, TV, and movies. I just wish we would get more games. Not a ton to where it would dilute the meaning of them. But not one every 10 years either
Do they not have books or comics? I would've thought they had those..
Great to see the long-form content again! Great video, Mantis!!!
I'd be 100% ok with a new publisher and developer taking over the IP.
One thing that gives me hope about the show is the writers of Westworld left to work on Fallout and the first couple seasons of Westworld were bangers and they were set in desert themes. Not exactly the same. But like I said silver linings here
Ooh that gets my interest
They need to get daddy Microsoft to pay for a Bethesda Fallout Team, a Bethesda Elder Scrolls Team, and a Bethesda New IP Team. The fact that we're all but guaranteed to go a decade+ between major installment releases for these series is utterly inane.
The problem with 76 isn't the rough launch, its the free-to-play mechanics that are present in a game you have to pay for. the Ammo Box and Scrap Box completely turns the game off for me. and I play 76 every single day. You aren't able to enjoy the game the way most people do simply because they pay extra every month even though you bought the game at full price.
With those TV series, they're either incredible or massive flops, it depends on where their priorities lie, if they are dedicated to the source material and not an agenda, then we may see something truly great.
After Rings of Power...I'm not sure how many new fans fallout will have...
Got em
Black women le bad
A lot of people like that stupid ring show. Personally I thought the books were boring as fuck. I thought the movies were tired ass Wizards and warlocks shit and I don't understand wanting to hate what other people like. I understand people really like Lord of the Rings in that shit so I keep myself to myself
@@HamzahShoaibmy friend the races of the actors is not an issue. The story being dogshit that ignores what little material they were legally allowed to use is the problem.
Its like if I made a prequel to star wars and made yoda a penguin who did crack and knew everything someone else should know. Interesting story but it wouldn't be SW.
@@AzayBae I don't think fans of the books complained as much about Tom Bombadil or Random Elf not being in the movies.
I will legitimately probably be like 32-35 when fallout 5 comes out 💀💀. That is INSANE to me. It feels not that long ago I was only 11 playing New Vegas for the first time again, shortly after picking up Fallout 3 GOTY and I’ve been addicted ever since 🤙🏾
Why not just go for METRO or S.T.A.L.K.E.R.?? They're the best alternatives to Fallout.
While I love the bleakness of Fallout 1, and part of me wants Fallout to go back to its roots in some ways, I feel like just trying to emulate the past unsettling setting of Fallout would just not fit with the current reality. Gritty Post Apocalypse has been just so present in many games (and other media), and I just feel like it's become saturated?
When I think of it, I kinda want a Fallout setting that starts out bleak (and keeping the "vibe" of the old Fallout), but that kinda gives hope too, it's been 200+ years since the Great War, I like the idea of rebuilding and a bit of a switch to solarpunk, not forced on players mind you, but offering this as an option to players, the possibility to join a faction who works towards sustainability rather than domination over others (and the environment), it can be a really positive take on things, the world ended but after all this time and effort, it's still possible to actually make things better in a way that isn't just "use geck to terraform"
But that's my personal hopes and ideas, I'm aware that's probably not what a lot of people want
As for the music available for the radio stations, Fallout New Orleans could be fabulous. You have such period pioneers as Clifton Chenier, Louis “Satchmo” Armstrong (with his collaborations with Bing Crosby), just to scratch the surface. Would love to have Dr. John, but he and others might be too modern and expensive.
Then there are the monsters like more gatorclaws and those developed from the alligator snapping turtle and others like Nutrias.
The territory as well, Big Easy up to Vicksburg as well as the eastern and western areas.
There could be a whole subculture based upon the “tribes”. Very flamboyant.
You make me depressed when I hear you say we're not getting another Fallout game for a decade at least
Fallout location ideas:
-All of Texas and some of Mexico
-china(prewar prequel)
-New York
-New Orleans
-Chicago/Detroit
-Anchorage(prewar prequel)*
-Yellowstone
-Great Lakes Region
-Eastern expansion(NCR spreads to the rest of the country and game will end after reclaiming America)
*Note: a more accurate perspective as Operation Anchorage was US propaganda
If I was Bethesda I would work on the Creation Club engine/mechanics to allow larger story type content to be added. Then you could have multiple modders making official DLC sized purchasable content for Skyrim and Fallout 4. This will extend the lives of these games considerably until the next game release into the two franchise's. Like what if Sim Settlement's 2 was a full blown free official DLC?
Imagine a future fallout game from the Chinese perspective, it could even be a prequel taking place leading up to Oct. 2077 or just after :O
Todd not being comfortable with another studio working on the IP? Bro… last time that happened they literally made THE BEST fallout game to date.
Man… I really want a New Vegas 2 😭
Fallout New Orleans!! Wasn't that a real thing at one point? I remember hearing about these ages ago it feels like
Crazy how big fallout Miami is now
Mmm Im not excited about new corporate projects.. I got old world blues.
Same here, most things today seem to lack the heart that things used to
At this point, we can only hope the Fallout series is critically and commercially successful enough that it puts pressure on Bethesda to capitalize on that success and decide to release a new installment in the video game series, whether that is making it themselves or contracting it out to Obsidian.
You know what I reckon? New postapocalyptic games.
Now I dunno whether mad max movies were basically a carving stone, so to speak, for first Fallout but it was a huge inspiration for the game nonetheless.
Nowadays what do we have? TLOU tv show and probably a Fallout tv show - there is a big chance that like back in 90s, when there was some post apocalyptic movies and shows, then these two shows might boost an interest in postapo, more people get onvested in and thus more game developing teams and developers might shift their interest - now I love F3 the most and F NV too because I think that apart from F4 and F76, your freedom to EXPLORE is somehow justified and limitless and even expected, I think, but when playing F4 on PS4, I felt like the environment does not have much to offer to me, and even the characters and dialogues felt somehow off, soulless I almost want to say.
And yeah, I do realise that an open world game is a lot of work, a huge lots of factors which together combined have to click and thus there is a lot of things which might go wrong, but still, although I love Fallout series, I hope for some more indenpendent studio to come up with a new banger as I feel that F1 & F2 are so amazing is because it was still a relatively fresh idea and the devs and their motivation was probably "how do we make this original? what kind of little details do we piece together to make this whole thing interesting?"
Against the time a new FO is announced, we can play FO IRL.
I hope they allow me to bring my PC into the retirement community I'll end up at since that's about when we will see another Fallout game.
I own fallout 76 and I thinks it’s enjoyable with friends. But I’m not into multiplayer games and live service games so it’s not really my cup of tea I really want another single player one.
I am shocked I still hear the apologetics for 76. It is an objectivily bad game it wasn't just a bad launch, its a cheap money grab that is soulless.
I literally teared up at thought of not getting Fallout 5 for 15 years.
The future of the fallout series is nothing but a corporate nightmare
Fallout will go the way of COD and will only be made for the lowest common denominator
If you are an actual fallout fan then you need to except the series that you once loved is dead
And in its place will be a sanitized and by the books corporate skin suit.
Already accepted that years ago, so now I just spend my time combing through the lore and actual real-world history and culture to build a much more Fallout-accurate, expansive tabletop setting. Speaking of, the Modiphius Fallout 2d20 ttrpg is half-baked and needed a lot of extra work to really capture the game and its setting in its system.
Indie Fallout like games will be the future of the franchise in my opinion because Fans will continue it.
@@joshuavidrine889 you might like wasteland warfare
There needs to be some kind of rule enforced on companies that if they own a game franchise they need to publish at least 1 mainline game every 5 years or else they will be forced to sell the rights. What's the point of having the rights to make games for a franchise when that's never the goal it's just so frustrating waiting and waiting and waiting just for absolutely nothing
If Bethesda was forced to sell the rights to Fallout, don't even think that Obsidian would have a shot to buy them back.
It'd have massive companies trying to get it first, like Ubisoft, Tencent, even EA, just because the Fallout mark is so profitable even if they have no experience with a game like that.
Bethesda may not be the best, but the others who could buy the IP are far worse, Bethesda at least knows how to properly build up a world, even if their writing sucks, and Obsidian does not have the money to buy the rights for Fallout if any other big company jumps in to buy it as well.
@@OwnZar I hear you but a company shouldn't be allowed to just sit on their
a$$ and put out next to nothing. If they're not capable of putting out new games for people to play then they shouldn't be responsible for the rights anymore that's how I feel and if they can then f*****g do it, I think this would finally put the pressure on companies like Bethesda to start actually caring instead of just selling Skyrim for the 200th time
@@farawaytundra008 Bethesda is pumping out new content for Fallout, Fallout 76 keeps getting new updates and now they are making a TV series.
Not to mention that they are working on another 2 series at the same time.
Do you prefer polished content every 6-8 years or rushed out like Fallout 76 was?
Fallout 4 and 76 have enough content to keep us entertained until Fallout 5 or the TV series come around, but faster content would not equal to quality content.
If the content they are pumping right now is not up to your liking that'd be another story, but they are not sitting on their asses doing nothing.
@@OwnZar I don't know why they even bother with Fallout 76 that game should've never been made and it's even dumber that they waste time trying to update it for who? the couple hundred people that like a copy paste online Fallout 4. That time could've and should've went to anything else. Skyrim was 12 years ago and Fallout 4 was 8 years ago between Fallout 4 and today there should've been at least 2 mainline entries I don't know how anyone can argue against that. There's no excuse for this. Fallout should easily be put out every 4 to 5 years and it's sounding like they need another 6 or 7 years on top of an 8 year wait it's not acceptable. New Vegas didn't even have half of the time I think is reasonable to make a Fallout and it's arguably the best one so why do these people need 20 f*****g years to make something? If they are spread too thin and don't have the manpower to keep up then give it up it's that simple.
@@farawaytundra008 okay so we sell it. Who would realistically be able to buy it? And who would do a good job with it?
After Fallout: The Frontier, i have no faith in these big mods until i see them.
They come and go but only couple of them get finished
Microsoft has the trifecta of Fallout teams, Bethesda, Obsidian, and InXile. They should attempt a Call of Duty development cycle between those 3 studios, with one working on a new Fallout, the other studios working on something else, than once that title is released, the next studio works on the next game after their current game is done, and around it goes.
It could result in oversaturization, but it could also result in more diversity of content and gameplay. It’s an interesting idea for sure.
I really dislike this whole notion of "ELdEr sCrOLLs 6 WiLL tAkE 10YeaR!!!1" Todd sayed himself that after the growth of the company there are going to release games at the same development time. 3 to 5 years.
Not to mention Starfield didn't even begin full development until after 76 released, doomers don't know what they're talking about.
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An east Texas new Orleans fallout would be awesome
The Radzos River
Since we have atom rpg for eastern Europe, something happening in western Europe, maybe UK, would be something fresh.
Texas would be dope, dem western vibes like FNV
@@silvestresanchez2525 Eastern Texas would be especially interesting. I'd like to see maybe the praries running wild and free... or maybe I just wanna see Katy get nuked lol
I keep trying to join the discord but it just says the link is invalid. Can anyone help?
Fallout: New California made by obsidian is what I want
Or fallout new mexico
I wanna see a fallout anchorage dlc. Not a sim, but a chance to explore the city itself
A friend of mine says Fallout 76 is his favorite Fallout game now. I was floored by that, but he sas it's gotten a lot better than it was at launch. I'll have to check it out some day...
Last I played I actually enjoyed it a little more than fallout 4 tbh and it is in a much more playable state plus has a very friendly and helpful community. It may be far from perfect but it's got what I wanted, an official Bethesda RPG(lite) you can play with your friends for the most part.
It's good if you play with friends
Only annoyance is the ammunition but people are helpful enough
Believe it or not the dialogue system is better than New Vegas and gives me a lot of hope for Starfield. They even added stuff not in NV like special checks and unique checks if you have a low enough stat.
Fallout Great Lakes…make it huge, multiple large cities, U.S. and Canada. Floating cities, drivable vehicles, go all out!
From super hero to a big fallout TH-camr....you my friend are a god damn legend mantis....
I think the next elder scrolls will be the deciding factor on fallouts future.
If a bethesda single player experience game crushes it and makes money then maybe the next fallout is a return to form.
My fear is battlepass, live service, in game store for boosts bullshit
I really really wanted to like F76. But the bullet sponge is so bad that 1 and half mags are needed to drop slightly above basic enemies. Not enough supplies to maintain weapons and power armor at level 50. The main mission raiding fort knox is completely bricked on my save. I just cant play the game anymore. Except when I'm bored on occasion and remember it exists.
Microsoft and Bethesda are holding Fallout hostage. Don't even get me started on Elder Scrolls. A game every 20 years looks on the cards at this point. Ridiculous.
What i wanted from next fallout games:
1. We play our own main campaign than predetermined main quest. So we can be NCR, BOS, Enclave, Institute, Vault Dweller, Raiders, etc. That actually determined the fate of our worldspaces.
2. Have FONV features such as Disguise, gunplay, training to do PA, factions, some unique consequences each word choices, reputations, survival, etc.
3. Have skyrim features like leveling system while we using the skill, melee combat, having animals as pets/transport, BF/GF to marry, have beautiful world moment to chill, etc.
4. Have FO4 settlement building but with actual snapping grip that make settlement easier to build, not too dependent to players to progress/survive, have companion progress dialogues and benefits, Have huge PA, have vertibirds, have customizations for armor/weapons, have good radio with host, etc.
5. Have more choices in our personality like badass, evil, heroic, retarded, intellect, charming, stoic, etc. Than predetermined answers.
6. Have multiple ways to complete mission/quest that really possible, full protagonist, full evil, full genocide, full pacifist.
7. Have more detailed character maker and diverse in npc. Like different heights, weights, body builds, ages, skin color, hair color, etc.
8. While FO4 give many customizations in weapons they are dull in cooking, armor, chems, etc. Give true freedoms. Like making our own chems from ingredient found in wild/materials, make armor available to vanilla clothing or even make our own clothing and can be concealed or padded while having drawbacks, explosives with smoke/sharpnel/poison/gas/flashbang/corrosives, etc.
9. Have more than 1 companion and actually filled roles like scouts, tank, sniper, versatile, assassin, hacker/breacher. Also make their AI not that passive responding to enemies, interest, and uniques.
10. Have populated world that not just huge but dense. I rather have similar size to FO4 but it filled with life and tbings to do than huge empty wasteland with nothing happens. Also whatever NPC does we can do that too. Major problems with open world game not made by rockstar lmao.
11. Have seamless indoor/outdoor. Also more buildings to enter than placeholders with no purposes.
12. Have better mods support, performances, stability, and bug free since they really rely on CK and with this current era some of their problems is unacceptable in gaming standards.
12 of these already fix major issues for me.
I'm with you minus #10. It's the post apocalypse and we're trying to survive it like others with little neighborhoods. Better/darker atmosphere would be nice as well. Basically, don't let Bethesda make any games. Their one good game was Skyrim. Everything else they've touched or done is near trash.
Basically, I'd like F.A.L.L.O.U.T. All the atmosphere, darkness, and player insignificance to the world like S.T.A.L.K.E.R. but the lore and "fun" that FO3 and FONV offered.
Too long of a wait to even care. The wait for ES6 is a joke too. The fact that they insist on prioritizing starfield over it just proves how little they care what most people want. They've become easy to hate
I have to say: I’m one of those OG Fallout fans who was absolutely opposed to the idea of 76. Combined with the disastrous launch, retcons, lore breaks, and borderline pay-to-win microtransactions, I had absolutely no plans to ever play this game…
Until I downloaded it for free on PSN a couple months ago. I absolutely love the game. It’s not on the same level as New Vegas (obviously) nor F3 for that matter, but it has a lot going for it. The map/game world is easily the best Bethesda has ever made. It’s huge, it’s dense, it’s full of content, and it’s very unique and interesting.
The only real issue I have is the weight limit. Fallout 1st is damn near a necessity at this point. I don’t mind paying for it for a couple months, but only because I’m having a lot of fun, I got the game for free and had a PSN gift card.
I’d like to see some sort of Co-Op in the future. Maybe one players is a host and can have 1-3 “Mercenaries” where the merc are other players. The host is the only one that can complete quests in their pipboy but the Mercs will still get XP from kills and quests, Caps, and Equipment while playing.
It would be totally awesome if two players could play on the same map/game and quests' outcomes are somehow 'merged'. Imagine playing with a friend cooperative or not that cooperative at all. You could have a co-op playthrough online, and local playthroughs for your own. Imagine the stories, man!
And no: this has nothing to do with Fallout 76, that monetized gameplay reduced theme park online bragging vehicle.
Borderlands style co-op
No....not everything needs multiplayer or co-op...
@@dainlinneen6733 if it did have it that would be the best way to do it
Please..allow the obsidian to make a new game.
Your only hope is the Outer Worlds games
We don't need a Fallout Oklahoma, a Fallout San Francisco, or a Fallout based on any single location. What we need is "Fallout America". If Xenimax can make an Elder Scrolls map the size of a planet, them A Fallout game can be made the size of the continental United States- scaled down somewhat, of course.
Been following Fo4NV for 6 years now, personally my most anticipated mod release
It'll never see the light of day- or by the time it's released, it will qualify as shareware. I say this as someone who very much wants to see a new Fallout title. The mods are generally too ambitious and have to few people working on them. Cascadia for example looks outstanding, but it's been in development since 2016. I wish them all well, but they're all just taking far too long.
@@manilajohn0182 lmao, tell me you have no idea what you’re talking about without telling me you have no idea what your talking about. Fo4NV is very far into development and give frequent updates to their community and even release stand alone mods frequently as well following an event calendar. As well as they have stated on multiple occasions in that they do not plan to ever specify a release date so they don’t have to rush to meet such a deadline, they’re taking their time and it will still be considerably less time than however long it takes Bethesda to release another fallout.
@@BigDeal0716 I'll just tell you that you have no idea what you're talking about. The mod is nowhere near finished, my friend. They ran into a roadblock because they weren't allowed to use the original voice actor's voice in the mod. That will cost them money or time- possibly both. Periodic updates, you say? Their youtube channel hasn't posted a video in two years. They're not posting a release date because they haven't the slightest idea when- or even if- the mod will be finished.
@@BigDeal0716 You claim that I didn't read the article- then you acknowledge in the same sentence that the article said that the FO4NV team can't use the original voice actors just like I told you. Give your brain a chance.
In the meantime, they haven't updated their youtube page in over two years, although they've been working on the project for over five years. If you'd rather ignore that and believe everything that they type on their discord, then go ahead and play the fool. You're off to a great start.
@@manilajohn0182 no, you said they ran into a roadblock because they couldn’t use the original voices, and I told you that was Fo4 Capital Wasteland, Fo4NV learned from their mistakes and had to change their plans. And again you bring up their TH-cam channel, I guess third times the charm, is that the only form of media that counts these days? I guess so
It's insane to think that Betheda green lit a Fallout series before an Elder Scrolls one.
We def need dedicated teams for different franchises, with star field coming out they're just spread way too thin especially for how cult of a following they have. Can't wait for the show!
I think the best thing Bethesda can do is make a new single player spinoff with some other studio outside of Maryland BGS. Bethesda/zenimax/microsoft has lots of studios that could do this using Fallout 4 and maybe even some 76 assets. New Orleans would be a great location.
*"it'll take another 5, 6, 7 years to launch another fallout game"*
Look I don't even think I'll be playing videogames in 7 years the way life is going.
I cant wait to see the mod-remakes of
Fallout 3 (Fallout 4 Capital Wasteland)
and
Fallout New Vegas (Fallout 4 New Vegas)
in Fallout 4 tbh
Yeah, i know they're not "something new" to Fallout, but getting to see those two in a FO4 skin is exiting to me.
Is there any point to checking out 76 if I'm reaaaallllyyyy not into the multiplayer aspect of it?
In my experience most players won’t attack you, they’ll just buy stuff from your vendor you set up at your camp. So you’re free to explore and do missions.
One thing you forgot to mention in regards to new content is this year we are getting a next gen update to fallout 4 which will come with exclusive Creation club content akin to the skyrim special edtions.
The way I see it is Fallout 4 and FO76 are two sides of the same coin. I play F76 with my friends and we do events together in a wacky Fallout-themed amusement park. I mod and play FO4 when I want to delve into interesting stories and game-play. I didn't always see it this way, TBH. I was an early adopter and even bought the Rum, but my relationship with 76 was strained and sporadic. I would compare the story content to 4/NV or even my favorite mods and feel let down. That ended when I embraced the tribe and started playing with a group of people through a Discord server. I found the fun in Fallout 76 through the power of "friendship."
The real deal is that there are many camps of Fallout fans and there is about to be a whole new category of fan -- TV watchers. There will probably be plenty of crossover, of course but a non-zero number of those new fans won't have played any of the games at all. Is that cool? Will that create more Fallout for everyone? I hope so and I plan on giving it a fair chance to earn my fandom the old-fashioned way: by making a great show.
FO76 was unacceptable at launch and mutated several times in several different cash grabs until we’ve stumbled upon what it is today. Today it is nearly unrecognizable as a Fallout game and those who do enjoy it would even admit it is far from a typical FO game. To a large percentage of the fanbase it represents an unacceptable deviation from what the series is. FO4 was audacious in many of its changes but I would say most of them worked out fine if only the game would have invested more in story and dialogue. This is why so many fans agree FNV and/or FO3 are superior games. Just because a small population of the fanbase enjoys a game does not make it acceptable
Edit: the only way forward for this series is a return to what made the franchise so popular. Excellent dialogue and characters, a plentiful map, and enjoyable combat all mixed within a post apocalyptic 50’s theme. I don’t think anyone cares how long it takes but this is what is needed
I hope the next Fallout game returns to that ominous feeling that the first 3 numbered Fallout games had.
I have as Vodun said let go. Its sad for me losing my favorite game franchise. It was wounded in Fo4 and has died since. I will keep replaying Fo3 and Fnv.
The show should start before the bombs drop, the mad rush to the vault, like FO4. Then with narration, show a wide range of vaults across the capital wasteland, mojave & Boston (that shows the new fans just how messed up Vault Tec is & what kind of tv show this will be) If they were to rip a storyline from game to tv, FO3 would be best.
The most fun that I've had in Fallout 76 was doing a Roleplay playthrough, I literally walked everywhere, only ran or jogged when I needed to, slept at night- and gleamed every bit of lore that I could since the Wastelanders update.
You can enjoy a SP experience on the game, the problem is people want to hate things now- often over small changes. After all...
War never changes.
Oh, another note: The last Fallout title that Obsidian worked on was completed in 18 months, not 5, 6, or 7 years. Devs from Interplay head of Obsidian, they understand the IP very well, because they created it.
Fallout: Old Seattle
And they could even use the real actual Seattle Underground for major dungeons..
What sucks is that if the fallout show ends up being bad, that’s literally it for the franchise. That would be 3 straight bad iterations of the fallout world and at that point it would pretty much confirm that Bethesda has lost what they had when they made fallout 3. I’m actually surprised Bethesda gets the recognition they do because other than fallout 3 and the elder scrolls franchise they literally have not delivered anything that validates it. I can guarantee that if the fallout show flops that’s literally it for fallout. No one is waiting 10 years for a 90% chance at more disappointment
I still can not understand why the took a game series that found it's success in single player, story driven experiences and turned it into whatever the hell 76 is. The worst part is that since the original Fallout, these games have proven themselves to be classics. Timeless even. 30 years later I can still play the original games. 30 years from now, I doubt Fallout 76 players will be able to say the same thing. I will never play 76 for this reason. It's not Fallout, it's not timeless and ultimately (regardless of how well it does) someday soon, it simply won't exist anymore. I can still play the original Wasteland for Pete's sake.
I love Fallout in the whole of the franchise. But, the older Fallout games have had a special place in my heart. 76 is fun, I do enjoy playing with friends, but solo its meh. I love Fallout 3 and New Vegas, and would enjoy another Fallout game that doesn't require internet to enjoy. I've mentioned to a friend before about a Fallout game that isn't set in the United States, but maybe Canada. I want to see how the atomic explosions affected places that weren't directly hit (I know Fallout 76 involves an area that wasn't directly hit, but they are still part of the U.S.)
Just ideas, I love Fallout, I always have. Keep up the videos! They're awesome.
Wasnt someone making a Fallout Hawaii mod? I feel like that location would be so significant for Fallout...
I either want the next Fallout back on the Westcoast or the midwest.
I wish they get back to develop isometric Fallout games...
Nah. FO3 and FONV are peak FALLOUT.
@@SonOfTheDawn515
Just a question...
Have you ever played any isometric games before ?
Just curious...
i really enjoy FO76. mostly playing solo too. only thing that doesnt "feel" like fallout is the multiplayer aspect. other than that, its exactly what i would have wanted from an online fallout game.
It's funny how the most Braindead Activity, watching TV, is seen as sophisticated and brings People to enjoy IPs.
Much like how The Mandalorian made Star Wars Popular to a large Audience instead of being a Punchline about Grown Men living in their Parents Basement.
The Joy of Fallout 76 to me, is the great Writing and Expansion of the Universe. I'm just sad that they had to make it a MMO.
Fallout London is just London on a good day
Bro at this point my kids are gonna release sooner than fallout
And for those of you who don't know what Fallout is:
radioactive particles that are carried into the atmosphere after a nuclear explosion or accident and gradually fall back as dust or in precipitation
Mothership zeta and Old world blues 🔛🔝🔥🔥🔥🔥
Fallout: Jazz City? Yeah, I'd take that.
The thing is Obsidian are beasts at pumping out high quality content in record time. They barely had a year and they still made a title on par with the originals. Todd Howard thinks he made Fallout great just by buying it, I'd like to smack him upside the head.
I like the way Snrub thinks.
They need to do what Wasteland 3 did. If you guys want a semi modern Fallout game that plays like the OG Fallouts; pick Wasteland 3.
One of us out there may one day create a game that succeeds this franchise, I myself wish to one day create a retrofuture apocalypse title, but you never know. Either the franchise continues or it dies.
Honestly I dont want another Obsidian Fallout, they made The Outer Worlds with a much different team than with New Vegas and although the consistent use of skills in dialogue/gameplay with stuff like low intelligence but high science and the like was nice, the gameplay and story felt weak as shit.
FNVs story was better than its gameplay but it still felt good cause of how crazy strong the guns could get.
If the Sims had rad scorpions and deathclaws, I may consider buying it.