Neville says it's NONSENSE that Spurs players will not want to beat Man City
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Jamie Carragher and Gary Neville discuss Tottenham's game against Manchester City on Monday Night Football.
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I'm hearing there will be no goalkeepers traveling for tottenhams game tomorrow so it'll be a open goal.
Have a better chance with a trophy cabinet in goal 😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
🤓 um actually thats not how it works 🤓
You should always want to win, regardless of the opposition, as a manager your team needs to win
Are you an Arsenal fan?
@@SknnaderHuyatThat goes without saying, regardless of what team you support. Playing to lose is unprofessional and ruins the game.
@worldrenownedchickenchef 💯 percent I agree with you! I hope arsenal win I'm sick and tired of man city
@@SknnaderHuyatwhy you mad
I think it's more on pride as a player.
Load of rubbish Gary Neville has said there, QPR weren’t safe from relegation when they played City, Bolton had to win their game against Stoke City, but didn’t, but that was a very close game. So the fact he is saying that QPR played like they had nothing to do is nonsense. They had to at least get a draw to ensure safety if Bolton beat Stoke
He needs an excuse for city beating them to a title in 2012
They did notice their own fans celebrating before they conceded the 3rd
@@XXXTENTAClON227 They also kicked it straight back to City from the kick off after the second goal.
@@pepguardiola3739not just that but promoting the premier league that it is the best in everything, always defending the PGMOL when Liverpool made a statement after that scandalous mistake vs Tottenham earlier in the season, he’s unbearable to watch and listen to
It isnt rubbish though, qpr knew by 2/3rds of the game that their result dint matter and still defended like crazy till injury time.
I have never seen a team throw a game. It will be interesting.
I've not seen a team throw a game, but as a chelsea fan I remember when Ancelotti was our manager and we were in a title race with United. On matchday 37 we played liverpool away and Gerrard made a horrendous backpass to Drogba to make it 1-0, we won 2-0 and then won on the final day to win the title
I remember Gerrard's backpass to Drogba in 2010 when Chelsea and Man Utd were in a title race
And Phil Neville's rather odd own goal playing for Everton vs Man United in 2007
Best comment here
It was too demba ba, couldn't remember it that well
Don't forget that Gerrard was also the reason Manchester City won the Premier League in 2014. His infamous slip allowed Demba Ba to score the goal!
@@GennySavastone That was 2014
It's nonsense ,Liverpool had nothing to play for tonight, they were always going to finish 3rd but they still wanted to win.
I'm sorry, are aston villa competing with manchester united, Liverpool's biggest rivals, for something? Your brain is mush
@@ZPSBestProfileNameLook at the table. On Villa and spurs can get 4th.
@@ZPSBestProfileName palm your face
Lmao completely different situation 😂
Not really the same though. They didn't have their own fans wanting them to lose.
So confused by this, I thought Tottenham won the league in October??
Nah. They were just on the winning end of one of the most corrupt matches in Premier League history
😂😂
They do every second year
Last season i though arsenal won the league after the first game of the season 💀
Go back to 1999 - Leeds played Arsenal knowing that if we won, it would hand Man Utd the title. We won 1-0 and so our mortal enemies won the first leg of their treble.
Leeds also upset Arsenal in 2003 with a win, this time at the Highbury, a result that handed Manchester United the Premier League title.
Integrity? 115 FC?
cry more fc?
Charges being the operative word 🤫
Arsenals excuse for city being better than them 💙
QPR was battling relegation and they needed to avoid being relegated by winning
Not as the game progressed .
That’s why they just hoofed the ball right back to city? I didn’t even realise how dodgy that game was until Rooney mentioned it a few years ago, and when you look at city’s equaliser it’s close to cheating, kicking the ball long when you literally just conceded and think you need a point to guarantee your survival in the league and the first thing you do is kick it right back to the opposition, also one of the QPR players literally celebrating with nasri instead of his win team.
that’s one of the dodgiest things I’ve seen in the prem, and apparently they continued being dodgy with their 115 charges 😂
@@RobK32no, not until b the other result was confirmed, which was only a few minutes before. It's exactly why you play all the final games at the same time, to potentially stop this type of action from teams. & play a rs didn't know that when on the pitch
@@eirebhoy132player who celebrated was cisse, & that was after the game, they played together, were friends, by then he knew he was safe. He was the one who scored to put them 2-1 up, & famously nthatbwas after Joey had been sent off
@@kurtsudheim825 celebrating with other team instead of your own is still bad no matter how long they knew they were safe 😂
It’s agree with Neville here. Not very often I say that. It’s ridiculous to think Spurs would deliberately lose. Maybe decades ago - and maybe even individual players today who are local players and have an understanding of the rivalry on a deeper level - maybe those individuals would just stroll through the game and not go into fifty fifties, or run 60 yards to press - maybe. And collectively that could affect the result. But I can’t see a manager or club instructing their players to not play for a result they need.
Can you imagine the firestorm if a player leaked that kind of information? That they were instructed not to try and win. It would be a crime - literally a criminal act.
it's not a case of deliberately losing - it's small margins. The fans will not be wanting them to win. That can make a big difference.
He's literally wrong about qpr though, they weren't safe, it ended up that Bolton lost anyway, but this is why you play final game all together so you don't get corrupt results
I'll always believe that Liverpool intentionally lost at Anfield to Chelsea in 2010 by 2 goals to nil, to help Chelsea win the Premier League and stop Manchester United winning a 4th title in a row and a record breaking 19th league title. Gerrard back passing it to Drogba for the opening goal. So yeah, I think Gerrard probably alone didn't want to win that game and the rest probably tried. Gerrard probably couldn't handle the fact that Man United were about to overtake Liverpool and then backpassed to Drogba and pretended like it was a mistake when it wasn't. No manager or player will ever admit it, but even the best play for a draw. But to play for a defeat is ridiculous and I fully believe some or at least Gerrard, did not care that he lost that day. They were out of the top four race anyway, so they didn't have any reason to try and get a result against Chelsea
If Spurs lose it will be because they're in pretty poor form, not because they're somehow planning on losing to deny Arsenal the title. Players don't walk out onto the pitch hoping they lose a game.
If we lose its cuz we lost on purpose
@@kieronspiteriNo, if you lose it's because you aren't as good as City.
It's happened frequently in footballing history. Lazio lost to Inter Milan so their heated rivals Roma couldn't win the title with the Lazio fans cheering the inter goals. Denmark and Sweden drew 2-2 in Euro 2004 which coincidentally was the only result that would see either qualify for knockouts at the expense of Italy. Heerenveen in the Netherlands was in a situation where they either had to win or lose against the stronger team Feyenoord to guarantee European football. Still, if they drew, they had to play qualifiers, so Heerenveen went out and didn't try because losing was less risky. World Cup 1982 game between Austria and Germany the Austrians deliberately lost so both nations could advance together.
@@silverheart7964 no we lose cuz we wanted to lose
@@silverheart7964spurs are man city bogey team, they bent to man city & won even with injuries. Man city struggle at spurs, now new manager didn't play same way, & no Harry, I'm not saying only way they bloke is on purpose, but big chance. Man city bare favourites, but record says it'll be tough & spurs have a chance against them, exact same as last year, but with a few more games left then
Spurs fans got a win/win situation. They beat city, there’s still a chance of champions league football, they lose, they potentially stop Arsenal from winning the league.
Not if they get a draw.
You can draw hoping for a win😊
Win-win? Yeah Arsenal fans bantering them for winning the title AND Spurs basically winning it for them. I can already hear the chants at the North London Derby and I'm not even a Spurs fan 😂
If they want top 4, they'd better win 😂😂
@@Ben-pz9mjthis is something that will last for the next 20 years aswell, it’s an absolute MUST lose for us spurs fans tomorrow, Arsenal winning the league like this is the worst thing humanely possible for Tottenham.
Man Utd go out on football pitches to lose football matches though.
xD
2009...Gerrard back pass to help guide Chelsea to win the league against Man Utd
How on earth Neville can say that as a United fan watching Rashford and co for the last 10 years... they've done it EVERY SINGLE GAME... ETH is their NEXT victim
What about Steven Gerard deliberate back pass to Drogba where he handed over the title to Chelsea
All these guys are saying this, and yet we all know that Tottenham won't turn up
This league have integrity? When everton gets points deducted while man city 115 breaches have had no punishment 😂😂😂😂
Yat!
One thing I noticed apart Nottingham forest the other teams Fulham, Aston Villa Brighton barely put a fight in just laid down. Against Man City
I noticed against Arsenal they go for it as if arsenal some how cheated
Most teams are already beaten before they step onto the field vs man city.
Feels like a psychological thing.
Very selective of you
Fulham had a go in the first 20 minutes, then fell apart once the first goal went in. Going down by just a goal against City completely drains the opposition of any motivation.
Villa beat city at villapark
Villa beat Man City earlier in the season. What are you on about?
It’s not the players as much as it could be the officials deciding these games😮
I guess we will know tomorrow
Players have win bonuses in their contracts, they care way more about that than rivalry lol
Villa have basically got champions league now, I don't think they'll be that determined to win.
No they haven't. Not yet! Palace aren't pushover. And especially harder at Home!
@ordenax yes they have its over and I'm a spurs fan
@@ordenaxspurs has win twice and hope aston villa lose so its basically over
@@ordenaxSpurs have to win against City it’s incredibly unlikely even if Spurs manage to win both their games Villa just have to get a draw with Palace as their goal difference is so much better than Spurs.
@@ordenax Spirs need essentially 2 perfect games one against man City and can only get if we lose at sellhurst. Nah, not happening
if you support tottenham and want them to beat city to gift arsenal the title youre not a proper tottenham fan - chelsea fan
Facts I loved it when we let Chelsea win 2010 to stop utd
Yeah they might not want to beat Man City aswell, yet they still might. Do you think they wanted to lose to Arsenal? no but they still did fans don’t always get results their way that’s the basic of football otherwise it wouldn’t be a competitive sport
Would tottenham fans do the same if chelsea were in our position😂
“If you want your team to win, you don’t actually support them” this is football 2024 everyone
@@andrewwright4195you had no shot at the title. Spurs can still get top4
Tottenham is a business, Levy is not a foolish investor. If they win their final 2 games & Villa slip up and lose their only game left, then Spurs are in the Champions league. Slim chance, yes. But of course they will go for it. The financial benefits to the club are huge if they somehow pulled it off. They aren't going to lay down just because of the Arsenal rivalry.
Only the fans , madders and Son/Richarlison care about the rivalry..the others dont
The players will go out to win. A lot of the fans will probably want city to win though
Exactly.
It really is that simple.
Is it now 🤔 i remember 99 United vs Tottenham
This is exactly why the premier league is not the ‘best league in the world’
a united fan saying its nonsense stopping their noisy neighbours from 4peatin 😅 what else was he gonna say
City will never catch up to 20 times
That’s why as a Utd fan 26+ I rather city win then arsenal win as I grew up watching the greatest rivalry in football as in arsenal vs Utd Wenger vs SAF
Hell with it arsenal is a greater rivalry than city
No, whether ManCity win 4 in a row or not. ManUtd are technically the first team to do it. I don't consider ManUtd lost a PL title from 2006/07 to 2010/11.
On paper it says 09/10 wasn't but only because it happened to be the first year ManUtd coupd overtake Liverpool on PL title's amd Chelsea got to play Liverpool at Anfield on penultimate game where Liverpool aren't playing for anything other than preventing ManUtd winning hence Gerrard's deliberate backpass to Drogba at 0-0 there were abnormal circumstances then no VAR so Chelsea were favoured all season as the PL doesn't want same champion 4 times in a row but with VAR in 09/10 ManUtd win at a canter and this year ManCity can't be cheated like ManUtd were with Liverpool's match fixing with Chelsea because out of the 2 contenders Arsenal are the team who've won more overall league title's than ManCity so City aren't up against everyone & everything like ManUtd were in 09/10 but ManUtd won convincingly again the following season should've been 5 in a row. Also City lost by 18pts a few seasons ago they've still got to do a lot more to equal/better ManUtd's teams.
QPR were playing for survival
wait what? why
Spurs can still nick 4th spot if they beat City. They'll have a guaranteed win against Sheffield with Villa having to go away to Palace. This would be financially beneficial to Spurs and would attract top talent in the next transfer window.
It was not at all surprising that QPR showed up and fought that day in 2012. It's not like they were on the coast and done with the season. They avoided relegation by a single point at the end! Bolton drew 2-2 at home against Stoke, QPR knew that if Bolton were to win against Stoke then they (QPR) would go down with anything less than a win against City. They lost but they got lucky that Bolton couldn't win. So this idea that "who expected QPR to give city trouble"... anyone who was looking at the table Mr Neville. Obviously you weren't. But if you want an example of a team being pros and showing up when it didn't matter then it's Stoke, they were legit on the coast but made sure to send Bolton down 😅
It’s not about going onto a football pitch with the intention of losing, it’s the absence of motivation
I thought Neville was going to mention 99 when Sours actually went 1 up against Utd
surly they want champions league they got to win to still be it with a shot.
Spurs won't get CL. Villa only need to draw or beat Place last game of the season and they get CL regardless if Spurs win tonight
Both sets of fans should pitch invade
Does anyone really think that pampered, millionaire foreigners care about local bragging rights?😂
The fans absolutely want them to lose. However the coach and players will be completely professional, even more so now 4th is still a possibility. I don’t think Daniel Levy cares one bit about Arsenal, he just wants that CL revenue. If they lose it’s because City are a far superior team, no other reason than that.
Villa have champions league it's over
@@kieronspiteriMost likely but if by some miracle Spurs beat City, Villa have to win at Palace and the current form book suggests that isn’t straight forward.
the crowd can definitely have an effect.
@@Slice998 were losing to city
Gary referencing City beating QPR as an example is hilarious when Joey Barton intentionally got sent off to give City a better opportunity 😅
what else to Spurs have to play for? 5 points off 4th place, be a miracle if they got it now
Integrity
Integrity and if Villa loses and Tottenham wins out they can take 4th ucl
@@glitchinthematrix3559aye
Exactly, why on earth would we want to hand our arch rivals a title for a minuscule chance to get in a competition that that we have no chance of winning
@@jackcollins1 what's the point of even playing competitive football if that's their outlook?
Jamie was an average player at his best IMO but his punditry is top class. He does his research and brings some new points/thoughts to the table that I think is great. This spurs do give away a lot of chances to the opponent and that will greatly play into City's hands. Also the form the two teams are in are polar opposites.
No way Ange wants to win this one really 😂
And joey Barton threw the game for City lol legit got himself sent off for nothing cause he wanted City win league
They got rid of Jill on MNF quick 😂
if man utd were in same position who would gary neville be cheering on?
According to reports we are hearing, Romero is going to try 2 foot Haaland so they can have 10 men
The crowd will definitely not be on Tottenham's side. It's sad really - the United fans and team gave it their best against Arsenal.
Oh dear, the real, serious lack of shame and integrity in Tottenham fans....
They got to say this to keep it interesting but I can’t seen spurs turning up one bit
I don't care about integrity, but no way I'm seeing my greatest rival win the premier league and there's something i can do about it. 😂😂😂😂😂
What you going to do run on the pitch and score for city? 😂
Small club mentality. United tried their best against Arsenal and their fans wanted them to win.
Literally there is nothing you can do about it unless the player themselves start to sabotage the game themselves.
I'm speaking hypothetically as a player.
Upload Villa highlights. What a comeback 🔥
Forget about others team..
Let's talk about you club(Gary)
I've heard the Tottenham players will be strolling like in a garden and legs will melt when they see the ball flying towards their goal.
Spurs are going for a new record, a new trophy : letting in as many goals as possible, so that Man C can also win by a big margin of goal difference.
Sturridge speaking eloquently.
The referring doesn’t have integrity 🤦♂️
As a life long Spurs fan, of course they will want to go out and beat Man City. All sportsman love the thrill of the win!!! Why is that even a question ??? And, as much as it pains me, if Arsenal win the league its because they deserve to. End of 🤷♀️
Respect to you Sir..i am a big arsenal fan but i would said the same if tottenham were in the same situation...🥂
For the first time in my life I am hearing that their fans want zheir team to lose. What a shame
👀 Let’s hope those words don’t come back to haunt you Neville…
The league has integrity, Spurs do not…
Under normal circumstances there would be no questions… but the way some of their biggest social media influencers are going on you have to wonder.
Say for instance city completely batter Tottenham, technically the way both teams are playing that will most likely be the outcome and say the fans are not that bothered cause it stops Arsenal from winning the title you’ll have to question the integrity of the players…. It’s a weird situation cause all what will be remembered is Spurs literally deciding who wins the title.
Remember when Chelsea turned up after their season at the pub, to draw against Tottenham and gift Leicester the league. The media never talked about Chelsea player's mentality then, this Arsenal agenda in the media is a joke - I'm surprised Neville and Carragher aren't talking about the holidays they'd take with Arteta
as a chelsea fan, there was a lot of talk about that, and nobody was surprised when it happened. spurs always has and always will be 3 point lane for us, no matter the circumstances though
@@Ali-lc7vp 3 point lane bro we destroyed you
@@Ali-lc7vp It was at Stamford Bridge
Chelsea turned up to stop spurs. Tomorrow will probably be the other way around.
@@TheArsenal21 yes I know it was the Battle of the Bridge obviously, that 2nd sentence was separate just to state that we will nearly always beat them - if we can beat them in their own ground it goes without saying that we nearly always beat them at home too lol
All those innocent souls who don’t think a football team has ever thrown a football match before.
Bless your kind hearts, I really wish I could live life as you do 😂
As a Spurs fan, I won't to win this game for a chance to get 4th place. I couldn't care less about Arsenal or what they do.
They're forgetting that Villa have already laid down to City. Tottenham will do the same tomorrow
Utd laid down for arsenal too
Spurs will have an excuse if they lose so psychologically its not the same.
Spurs fans have correct mentality.
If barca were in 3rd position, while madrid and atletico fight for the title, barca fans would happily accept the defeat.
it really just proves that Tottenham will forever be in our shadows . nothing more to say about it
The players will go for it, the fans hmmm not so much 😆🤣
Neville is spot on. Anyone who thinks that spurs will want to lose to city has serious issues.
But arsenal winning spurs isn't an issue ...u dey smoke well
Man city should play Scott Carson in goal they will still win the title arsenal don't get me wrong will always find a way to bottle it. City just play the kids against Spurs with Carson in goal you will still win it.
Spurs wanting to lose so bad might haunt them in the future when they want to win so bad. Karma will haunt them
Trust me, the players are going to throw the game 😂😂😂
Rivalry means a lot more to the fans.
Why would you want to hand your biggest rivals the league just for extra chamipions league money when spurs arent going to do anything in it. They may as well stop arsenal winning the league for UEL. That way the'll grow as a squad
Pretty sure match fixing is deeply frowned upon
Leeds beat Arsenal as well in 99 to hand United the title.
Corrupt Premier League which is basically deciding who wins. That was reason for the introduction of V.A.R.
Players definently do not care, they will play to win. Fans is a different story but irrelevant.
"UNBELIEVABLE" - GARY NEVILLE.😂.
Neville doesn't understand why Spurs fans dont want to hand the advantage to their neighbours and never will. Im glad Tottenham lost, they wouldn't have lost to City if they had beaten Arsenal at home, thus ending their title charge.
Tottenham might try and might score too, but they’ll be booed if they do and that’s gonna be hilarious if it happens. If City score I can see Spurs fans celebrating it
😂😂
They did.
Tottenham do have to throw the game. Just play their normal football and City will win easily
It’s truth tho
The Spursy thg to do would be to not show up and give man city a game…and after all there IS a reason the adjective exists…
but it makes sense when it comes to Tottenham 😊
Spurs could still qualify for the champions league, why wouldnt they try to win? Its absolute garbage to think theyd not turn up
Well Villa just need a point against palace. 😂Spurs not finishing higher than 5th so why let your rivals win
0-4…
I hope MC get beat.... Not a spurs fan but buying the PL is not on.... Tony cuenca
Don't worry City already bought the Title 115 times 🤔
I be playing Fifa FUT champs, I have completed my goal of rewards I can possibly get. So I enter a game that doesn’t matter, I still play to win and actually peeved if I don’t win. Tottenham will have top 4 goal on their minds tomorrow
I will tell you about one
In 2016 european championships
Italy allowed ireland to beat them 1-0, so that the irish fans would support them against spain
Thats because spain at that time had the hoodoo over italy, and italians wanted irish fans to support them against the spanish
Its worked
By the way, at end of the game italians celebrated with irish team, even though ireland had just won.
Italy went onto to break there hoodoo on spain, and beat them in first time in years
So do not say teams do not intentionally lose if it benefits them in other ways, as they do.
ie the italians made the irish fans happy, so that irish fans would support the italians playing against spain, as spain had the hoodoo over the italians, and the italians wanted the irish fans to support them against spain
It worked out for both
It does happen, i do not care about these games, just saying games are lost by teams for purposes unknown to most for reasons that benefits both
I stopped watching arsenal in 2002, and i just laugh at football today, but i just wanted to write on how football is not always what you think it is. I do not care, it makes me laugh about this, and what people are saying, and how players are denying it happens.
Never rely on spurs 😢
Did I just hear Neville say this league has integrity 😂😂 yes sure mate, the integrity of this league was over after the second match with the incompetent officiating and VAR
Incompetence doesn't equate to lack of Integrity.
@@ordenax
It does when you don’t do anything about it. If the incompetence is so bad but you don’t do anything about it - your integrity is gone. You’re complicit at the point, in my opinion.
Spurs are in top four race this arsenal nonsense must stop
QPR let City win.
Liverpool threw a massive spanner in the works & beat Blackburn,shame Manchester United couldn't win at Upton Park.
Surely Spurs won't roll over for City or will they,🤔 "come on Spurs."
Manchester United fan.👹🔰
Only fans want Spurs to lose, players are not die hard loyalists if they get more money elsewhere they will abandon the shirt