What Makes LeBron Different from MJ and Can Luka Doncic Catch Up?
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- Paul George explains why the GOAT debate between Michael Jordan and LeBron James doesn’t hold up.
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Glad PG came out with this podcast, he's highly intelligent
Facts
The first
Its crazy how luka is already being mentioned along the greats. He is definitely a generational talent along with MJ, & Lebron. The league is in great hands
PG's take on the GOAT is exactly what Wilt said when asked about Kareem and Jordan. His main reason was "If I knew my records couldve been broken I woulda tried to actually get them up even higher"
Wilt thought he was the GOAT because of stat accumulation. Who cares. He didn't win enough. Making your team as good as possible is all that matters.
@@MrKT410so Bill Russell the GOAT then by your logic
@OGItachii I didn't say winning the most Championships. I said making your team as good as possible. Those aren't the same thing.
@@MrKT410 surely a player making their team as good as possible = being the best, which is winning… no? Logic is flawed all im saying bro
@OGItachii no. A team winning alone isn't evidence a single player is contributing to the winning. For example Steve Kerr and Robert Horry have 5 and 7 Championships. Are they the biggest reason their teams won? Of course not. They were good role players but won because they played with all time great talent. In the case of Russell, he certainly made his team better but joined a team that had already been to Finals and had multiple HOFers. He was arguably the best player of the 60s while also playing for the best organization & coach.
Not only hearing a nba player perspective but a actual good one who’s one of the best players in the league hearing his point of view is validated
Waiting on that episode 2🔥
Imagine if Bron was like 84-86% from the line his whole career... hahaha. Honestly I'm shocked that's the one thing he really never got better at. I think 78% was his best which is really impressive bc he played 81 games that year and took about 9 a game. Gonna really be missed when he retires
Yeah free throws are really really hard to improve on because it's not a talent thing. It's a mental thing.
MJ actually did know about LeBron before Bron was even out of high school. He was on the court with him and saw it live.
Just now seeing Paul’s response on this discussion of the Goat. I totally agree
I don’t like this topic too, MJ and LJ play in the different time with different medical system. We cannot say one is better than other, that is unfair.
I think what determines the 🐐 is a combination of stats, advanced metrics, accolades, eye test, winning etc.
So Jordan yes
you gotta throw in personal preferences as well imo
@@rodrigoatta9625 there’s a difference between “greatest” and “favorite”
@@dcballen4115 no its lebron lil bro stop glazing
@@duck0023 bro called me little bro than 🤣used the word glazing. Kid lebron might not even be better than Duncan Kareem or Kobe how would he be better than Jordan?
I think Lebron will hold his record for a very long long long time. These days player is so weak. Due to load management, player only play 60-65 games in single season. Assuming lebron will finish around 40k points, a player should average more than 30 points for 20+ season to beat the records. Basically you talk about a player with Jordan's ppg number having Lebron's physical fitness.
Until now, no player tick both criterias.
Bron would of had more points but his assist total is crazy too he's 4th all time only pure point guards in front of him he passed Kareem and magic in the same year and they were teammates let that sink in John kidd and Chris the only ones ahead of him
@@anthonyhooper2270 who is john kidd and chris
@@danielharyanto6713John Stockton, Jason Kidd and Chris Paul
I like his podcast but I really need to hear him talk about what’s up with Kawhi.
Thank you PG
Before goat became overused you’d be called the Jordan of
Before Bron took over 😂😂 notice how when bron was in HS they said “the next Jordan” now they’re saying is Luka/Victor Wemby/etc. “the next lebron”
And? Nobody is called the Jordan of since Bron game outta that 2016 finals
Lebron is the Jordan of basketball
Hey pg, im going to your game tomorrow against the raptors. Im your huge korean fan and cant wait to see you play in person! May i please get to say hi to you in person after the game? It’s would be my dream come true ❤
hope u ended up meeting him
@@kelechinwaeze671 he ignored me :(
Have better dreams.
This podcast is pretty solid
I need that jacket that Dallas is wearing
“…fellas, fellas” 😂
This is the question. What is the GOAT. This is a common problem in communication. The same word means many different things to different people. For me, all stats and accomplishments aside, the GOAT is the one who could do the most amazing stuff I’ve ever seen. In any sport or anything. The greatest ever is like Neo in the matrix. So far, for me, MJ is the GOAT. Lbj is one of the greats and probably the most statistically accomplished. But for me, never the GOAT. Best in his generation? I’d agree with that too. But there’s only one GOAT. Somethings MJ did LBJ physically can’t do. Nothing that LBJ does is something MJ couldn’t have done. If you wanna define a difference, that’s it. 48” vert. 4.2 40 yard dash. Played almost every game. Didn’t flop n overact fouls. Probably the most competitive mf’er to ever exist. Giant ass catchers mitts for hands. He’s the best that’s ever been 🤷♂️ It just is. Mostly only the younger generation that grew up watching LBJ think he’s best. He’s the best they saw. I’ve watched both careers in full. And LBJ is a great. But not the greatest ever.
This!
LeBron is not even the best small forward to ever play the game.
The 🐐 debate is just a collective feeling
Paul George really Rates Luka..
To answer their question...it's not 1 particular thing to be the greatest. It's actually a combination of things----winning (will-to-win), clutch (shooting, rebounding, passing, FTs, defense, etc), accolades, accomplishments, domination, stats, bball IQ, leadership, scoring (ball-in-hand, catch & shoot, transition, FT, inside, etc), passing, rebounding, defense (man-to-man, passing lanes, help, steals, blocks), efficiency, fundamentals, footwork, athleticism, speed, quickness, go-to move, post game, endurance, stamina, body control, agility, hands, creativity, handles, strength, hang time, move w/o ball, great off hand, play well through sickness/injury, etc, etc, etc.
There's only been 1 player that can fit into all of those categories (and more).
Literally NO player has ever fit your description and never will...because it's impossible. THE Goat doesn't exist. It makes no sense to compare era's and theorize what player X would do in era Y.
The closest you can come to such a discussion is different GOHT (Greatest of his/her time). And that would be Bill Russel, Kareem, Magic, MJ, Kobe/Duncan, Bron.
@@X5J2UY No, there is one player that fit into all of that. There were also a couple of players that fit into most of those.
@@jtremaine23 Again, no player has ever fit all those things. Not LeBron, no MJ, not Kareem.
@@X5J2UY This particular player wasn't a perfect player and I would never claim that but they do fit all of what I included above in their absolute prime.
Scoring
---catch & shoot th-cam.com/video/_-YuLyX4ZoI/w-d-xo.html
---ball-in-hand th-cam.com/video/cbK1VpQf7XM/w-d-xo.html
---against double teams th-cam.com/video/m_nt21y8Xy0/w-d-xo.html
---free throws th-cam.com/video/_JUjbpL9X7I/w-d-xo.html
---post game th-cam.com/video/vU3blg2JaWw/w-d-xo.html
Rebounding th-cam.com/video/Q2QnZgESL3c/w-d-xo.html
Passing th-cam.com/video/YbaqbclM08c/w-d-xo.html
Defense (steals / blocks / man-to-man / help / passing lanes) th-cam.com/video/f4gigN2zMU4/w-d-xo.html
Strength th-cam.com/video/wKaxaAsG6hQ/w-d-xo.html
Speed th-cam.com/video/CAwQjDQUs6c/w-d-xo.html
Quickness/agility th-cam.com/video/D_Z22PZhF10/w-d-xo.html
Off hand (left hand) th-cam.com/video/pr2G8Vg5dfM/w-d-xo.html
Go-to moves
(OUTSIDE) th-cam.com/video/uj1Hw4xgC_Q/w-d-xo.html
(INSIDE) th-cam.com/video/7vBc395dSg4/w-d-xo.html
Leadership th-cam.com/video/2Ehy3WT5D9k/w-d-xo.html & th-cam.com/video/gWcv2sJUEVw/w-d-xo.html
Basketball IQ th-cam.com/video/Xh_Y_dYNlVM/w-d-xo.html
Handles th-cam.com/video/IErL0fs8GxU/w-d-xo.html (legal crossover)
Moving w/o the ball th-cam.com/video/eM2X5QlJCHk/w-d-xo.html
Hands th-cam.com/video/EjoLldIW4hc/w-d-xo.html
Hang Time th-cam.com/video/PdZ1PR1q_G0/w-d-xo.html
Footwork th-cam.com/video/heuU4SGRfF0/w-d-xo.html
Fundamentals th-cam.com/video/Bw8GZnbUTtM/w-d-xo.html
Body control th-cam.com/video/8n_aNAX4WZA/w-d-xo.html
Creativity th-cam.com/video/j1FsD9Y7NfY/w-d-xo.html
Stamina/Endurance th-cam.com/video/Buaf4NWIikw/w-d-xo.html
Clutch Free Throws th-cam.com/video/3wrvyy5cs4s/w-d-xo.html 8:49 (other moments too)
Clutch passer
--- th-cam.com/video/bZLt2dz5YEk/w-d-xo.html
--- th-cam.com/video/6GT78Q7wzFw/w-d-xo.html
--- th-cam.com/video/7nLzQN25bSE/w-d-xo.html
--- th-cam.com/video/EdyyBE5sn8E/w-d-xo.html
Clutch defender
--- th-cam.com/video/zLToUmL3-KI/w-d-xo.html @12:02 & 12:57
--- th-cam.com/video/C9621DUTvB/w-d-xo.html @1:44
Clutch shooter th-cam.com/video/vzRl2v9-OAU/w-d-xo.html
Clutch rebounder th-cam.com/video/Q2QnZgESL3c/w-d-xo.html (a few in here)
Playing through injury th-cam.com/video/Ve_1x1fEFwM/w-d-xo.html
The will-to-win th-cam.com/video/PrxK-DzqNEA/w-d-xo.html
Let me know if I missed something. There were others I didn’t mention that I could also include like being a 2-way player, 2-type leaper, hitting shots at end of various clocks, playmaking, competitive drive, etc. I don't think I need to list out his accolades, accomplishments, league domination and stats. Most people know those.
Sounds like me😅
nice to hear from current nba player, but,
i still think that "goat" title should be divided into 5 spots or categories.
bcs both lebron n jordan didnt even win one match in the finals by 1 vs 5.
now i want to hear from PG what happen to kawhi
We gotta stop saying "dominant" , stat padding is not dominant, all those numbers were empty against Denver lol
Mj Knew. No excuses nobody said retire 3xs when you’re the best player. The GOAT is whoever you want it to be but the better have slowed dominance n a lot of skill n will like Bron Mj Kobe Duncan etc
Jordan shoes are horrible to actually hoop in tho. That’s the difference. We buy Jordan’s to wear casually and to flex on the next
That's why Mike's feet were actually bleeding after certain games.
Ask me to start a team between MJ and LJ to try to win a championship and I take MJ EVERY TIME
Take mj off the bulls and put him in Cleveland they don’t even make the finals put lebron on the bulls with Phil Jackson Scottie pippen Horace grant, Dennis Rodman and Lebron has more success than mj. Lebron can just do so much more independent of who’s around him and has a greater influence on getting the most out of his teammates. Mj isn’t going anywhere with drew gooden, zdrunas ilgauskus and boobie Gibson lol much less the nba finals as a 22 year old
MJ isnt carrying the bums Lebron did to a chip, let alone a finals
He did he met Bron when he was like 15
Bron & MJ my Co GOAT and BOTH Mount Rushmore of all ATHLETES in ALL SPORTS! Seen them both 51/53x live center court row 9/11/13 and love them both!
Anyone acting like it’s not debatable and both are not God tier is a non objective Stan!
Y'all gotta stop leaving kobe out of these debates. Don't be like the media sheep.
Facts the media training dese mfs to leave Bean out real mfs know 💯💯
I hate how people talk about off the field shit
Jordan is Iconic ❤ that’s a better version of the GOAT 🐐
man Luka owned George inplayoffs
That's a bad excuse for Jordan, if you really don't think playing longer and making sure you really are untouchable in this debate over ALL TIME then how are you the greatest player of all TIME?
No man..
Imagine this, 2 students was compared with each other.
1 has the record of being the top for 6 yrs.
The other 1 has more higher score in quizzes because he went to school a long lot longer than the accomplished one.
That's just stupid.
Participation trophies are not same against the TOP award. (Champ)
@@DruMUSIC06 Dumbest analogy ive seen....quizzes are individual and not team orientated in the typical scheme of things.
The true analogy is 1 student is a part of a 10+ team member presentation and they take turns speaking and win a competition 6 times together.
The other student and his presentation team goes up against the most prestigious presentation team of all time and loses, but the student keeps getting the highest score on his part every competition. On top of that, student 2 takes all of the notes and creates the PowerPoint from scratch and takes several wins against the most prestigious presentation team.
So it’s his fault medicine wasn’t as it is today? If lebron played back then he wouldn’t have the longetivity he has now
If jordan came after lebron Jordan would basically have more 6 rings if he were to keep his prime for as long as lebron
So you saying Mike didn’t leave it all on the court? Luka can catch bron in stats? What is the show
i mean jordan leaves it all on the court when he plays... but yknow, he retired and came back on the wizards... i think Paul George was saying if MJ knew about lebron or played against bron, he mightve played more.
He didn't say luka can catch lebron... he was giving luka a compliment but saying you need to do it for 20 years straight. Paul George is a smart with his words... He was saying lebron is so great, Luka would need to do what hes doing not for one season, but 20 seasons. Paul George aint gonna talk bad about Luka so he's not gonna say "luka can't do that".... yknow?
Luka can’t catch Bron. It’s not easy doing this shyt Every yr. Taxing asl
If I needed to win 1 game for the fate of the universe I take Jordan no question. If I am an NBA owner for a franchise, I'd draft Lebron all day. You're putting people in stands for 20 straight years with a chance to win every year. That's a no brainer.
But Lebron never won more than 2 rings for a franchise. Jordan brought 6. If you own like 3 franchises and you can trade Lebron between your franchises it makes sense, but if you have one franchise and pick between Jordan and Lebron, I think it should be Jordan.
@@hsdonn664 That's because Jordan was apart of one of the greatest teams ever assembled. You give LeBron that same squad? he's doing just as well if not BETTER. LeBron is the best basketball PLAYER. He's better than Jordan all around. It's just how it is. This ring argument for jordan makes no fucking sense, because if that's the case, then Bill Russell is the actual goat using that same logic.
@@Westbrook__ It took MJ and Bulls 7 years to build the team that won the rings. It was not assembled in a day. Assemble is the word that you would use for Lebron, who literally assembled the big 3 in Miami, after having failed to get a ring in his 7 years in Cleveland. I watched MJ when I was a teenager, he gave me the impression that he would win whatever it takes. It was simply difficult to think that he would lose. I myself consider Lebron as one of the greatest, he achieved things that no one has ever done (even MJ), but I never felt that killer instinct in Lebron. That's why I take MJ over Lebron any day. Two are different but if I have to pick one between MJ and Lebron, MJ everyday and any day.
@@hsdonn664 what the fuck did you want lebron to do with that cavs team? Please go look at the starting lineup he dragged with that first cavs finals team. There is no winning with that, and also guess who assembled a superteam IN THE FIRST PLACE to stop early cavs lebron... the celtics... with KG, paul pierce, rondo, and ray allen. They started that assembling shit in the first place, so what do you want lebron to do? Waste more years on a cavs team that clearly wasn't doing shit to take advantage of his talent and build around him properly? Hell no.
@@hsdonn664 To be clear, I am not saying Lebrons the better player, I am saying his longevity at the level of excellence he plays at, is a much better investment for a franchise. He makes so many players better, you save money everywhere. Heck, you even save money on a coach.
What makes Lebron the GOAT is what he does off the court n etc
They were both asked to win 😂
first billionaire on the court LMFAO now thats fucking hilarious when you say it like that, im just imaging a bunch of CEO's balling tf out in suits and ties
MJ the 🐐
What’s a goat? 6 rings, 6 FMVPs, 5 MVPs, and 10 scoring titles. That’s a goat. 10 god damn scoring titles
Brons a better scorer 🤷🏾♂️
@@trevoranderson9624 Its longevity stat lil bro
@@Kanye_east2000 10 scoring is a longevity stat idiot 🤦🏿♂️😂😂
The disrespect 🐍🕊️
Criteria to be the GOAT of NBA. Name be either MJ or LeBron. Simple as that.
Lebron not even better than Kobe , why do we keep doing this. Bron a top 10, NOT a top 2
MJ knew bro.. he was destroyed on his camp.. Lebron was there and they play 1 v 1 but the file is deleted fast for MJ's legacy
A good Lebron story or a good story of a good night of his sponsored by NBA players??
Nobody kids asking for lebrons for Christmas 😂 they rather have Jordans for Christmas 😂 so how is Lebron this generation’s goat?
Join russ. Have fun
What his done for the league is ruin competition. Control the narrative and media to assist with his goat debate and use players to take blame for his failures
He’s never done any of that but go off 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
@Sageof Olympus then your to ignorant to realize it
The only player that really ruined comp was kd lets be real LeBron only won 2 chips with miami they weren't the gods like gs
@Dillon Sparks he did it cause of lebron sorry giving thus guy excuses dam its right in yall faces
@@bellzo5 so your telling me just because LeBron wanted to leave Cleveland to play with his friends he ruined the league ok buddy it's a different time hell im sure kobe would have left to play with someone if Pau didn't get traded to him and lets be real the only the Celtics getting that gift of kg by McHale is what kinda made LeBron leave to miami
Now shoes elevate you goat status lol
pg took the easy way out
pick one player from any era to start your team. thats your goat. no debate needed. I got Bron
Didnt even Mentioned Kobe in the Goat debate smh How you a kobe guy but dont mentioned him? Cmon Paul George you falling into the media bs. Kobe is in the goat debate realistically as well. Atleast Mention him
If you're picking teams 5 on 5 of all the greatest players ever, it's going MJ 1 Kobe 2
@@joshlewis575 straight up 💯
Feels like kobe gets overlooked because he copied MJ's game so therefore he doesn't come up on goat talks even tho hes one of the best ever
@@flydontcare791 kobe is 6 all time my opinion alot is because some people view him as a clone not his own thing
The best ever Lebron James 🐐🦍
That is stupid that they say MJ would’ve gone as lo by as Bron went. Bro MJ quit 3 times!!! He wasnt watching how long somebody went. MJ would’ve never reached this recird
Record
what are you on about? mj scored 32k points in only 15 seasons. 5 more seasons and he wouldn't break the record? He was averaging 30 ppg playing all 82 games every season
@@adityalahiri4529 like what 🤦🏾♂️😭😭
Bron is top 4 in assist. If he dont pass like mj he would be top 1 in scoring earlier.
@Jamie-gu7ib mj was all defence 10 times. If he didn't spend so much energy on defence, he could focus even more on scoring...
MJ never lose to role player😂😂😂😂😂🎉
He did
Jordan and Lebron are 1A and 1B ! They have earn the right to not be ranked behind anybody else !
Saying Jordan is 1A and Lebron is 1B is the same thing as saying Jordan is 1 and Lebron is 2 lol. Personally, I think there's a distance between Jordan and Bron. I also think there is a distance between Lebron and everyone else but that's just my opinion. You're awesome though and I love your movies lol!!
I just put them as co goats at this point
All I know is that if they face each other off in a basketball court, Lebron would get starstrucked and MJ would just dominate him everytime he gets the chance.
Its the killer mentality that separates Jordan to everybody else. Kobe comes close and probably today, Giannis.
How does Giannis have killer mentality but no bron that don’t even make since
@@UFunnyLowe Because Giannis wants to kill his opponent every single time. In other words, he is constantly in attack mode. Lebron is a greater player, but oftentimes he defers to his teammates looking to make the right play. Lebron can be passive at times, in moments where Giannis or MJ would be in attack mode.
@@jpokeezy002 bro every person has said LeBron has magics mentality he plays luke magic that damn killer shit should not be a factor because it's playstyle
@@jpokeezy002 Lebron passes the ball more then those guys, obviously he seems passive but he’s probably the biggest “killer” of them all, since he knows all your plays and is easily able to adjust and outmaneuver his opponents
Luka will definitely crack the 30k points checkpoint, but I don't think any player will ever compete at that level for as long as LeBron has. It's impossible.
Luka barely in shape now it ain’t guaranteed he gone play 15 years
@@aaotrey106he even not in shape since he was NBA. He IQ Is what make him like this. And i think if he want he can play for 20years.
@@aaotrey106quit listening to the media brainwash y’all Luka still drop and average 30/8/8 easy every night
@@eglo53 nobody said he’s not but playing at bron level for 10 let alone 20 years not guaranteed tmac Derrick rose Brandon Roy superstar careers ain’t promised to last as long as bron Kd Steph’s ain’t got shit to do with no media watch out
@@regiyanto9553 he gotta do it for 10 and 15 first 3 years in I could’ve said the same for rose tmac a lot of guys
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Lebron goes everywhere and wins... 20 year of excellence and still have a few good great years
Why couldn’t he win with Cleveland the first time around then? Why did it take him joining 2 prime franchise players to finally get a chip? Why didn’t he even make the playoffs when he came out West before AD?
Naw Jordan is the goat 🐐 we know who the goat is stop 🧢 period
My eyes seen MJ in his prime, no way LeBron was ever as dominating as that dude.
I feel you bro. Same
Clearly you haven't seen Celtics Game 6
I hate when people say MJ would’ve done this or that if he knew…. But he didn’t. Nobody gives LeBron that courtesy in the conversation.
luka will never be on the top 5 all time no matter what he do! even if he win a clean 7/7 and top everything jordan did cause first is aint american he european white thats the only thing they need to use just like pacquiao he aint gonna be top 3 all time cause he asian he filipino not black 🤷🏽♂
I CREDIT Lebron for his longevity. He has done wonders because of God given talent, mentality, discipline, excellence and above all, his body.
But Jordan is the clear goat. And I wonder…damn Imagine what Jordan would have done if God gave him Lebron’s body or the ability to form superteams like Lebron did. just sayin.
And for Lebron’s case, imagine if Lebron had the stability of a great organization or coach for 1 team for most of his career. Despite the stupidity of the Bulls’ front office, they were great at getting MJ what he needed. HoF level player personnel moves. Shit if Lebron had that in Cleveland, would’ve never had to leave in the first place .
Lebron James is his generation of magic johnson. You have to compare Kobe to Jordan and Lebron to Magic. So if you think Lebron better than kobe then you think magic is better than michael.
This is so dumb . Lebron is a mix of mj and magic, he can get buckets from anywhere just like Jordan, he is a natural scorer too ppl underestimate him
@@prajakommera9440 he ain't no MJ...bro isn't clutch,
@@kobbyacquah7655 Most playoff buzzer beaters in the history of basketball ,He ain’t clutch? Most clutch time points in the history of nba, not clutch?
@@prajakommera9440 not game winners buzzer beaters and only because he’s played way longer…nothing impressive about that longevity stat
@@kobbyacquah7655 he’s clutch
@ 1:55 he says if MJ knew Lebron was coming he wouldn’t have taken years off 😩😭😭
MJ didn’t even score enough points to surpass Karl Malone who played in his ERA. Grown men still acting like Jordan has magical powers 😂😂 stop watching Space Jam❗️😂😂😂
LeBron is not even the greatest small forward to ever play. No, he’s not the GOAT.
If Jordan was like LeBron he would have another 3peat by joining the Shaq/Kobe Lakers after saying he would only play for Phil Jackson but he's too competitive. LeBron's true legacy is being the leader of the Boy-Banding Generation of NBA superstars. If the NBA allows high schoolers again of course there will be another over 20 years career player. Load Management LeBron took advantage of the softening of the game with no Band Checking since his 2nd season. GOAT is NOT a longevity aka Participation Trophy.
Superteams have been a thing for years ain’t nobody trying to hear that
@@UFunnyLowe Superteams were created before by teams making trades. Players choose to get married now THAT is the difference. That's why I call it Boy-Banding. Music producers user to put talent together, now talents pick each other. THAT is why the players' choices come with consequences & repercussions of their own actions. Michael Jordan famously was at war with his GM who never listened to Mike and the GM traded away his BFF Oakley. Do your homework and watch The Last Dance. You should know what you are talking about before making statements otherwise you expose yourself as ignorant and for Poser behavior.
Since you must be too young to remember that let me remind you that those consequences and repercussions are valid criticisms aka what the mentally softer younger generations call "Hate".
The league is way different. This is what they were talking about in the video and why comparing them is stupid; teams used to be married to players and now they are not Same goes for the NFL. Jordan would have had to swap teams eventually. It wouldn't make sense for him to stay with a team if they were getting rid of all the talent around him, especially if he is a super max player, which he is obviously.
And y'all old heads need to stop with this "the league was more physical point" acting like players of today, who are more skilled AND more athletic couldn't make it in that era. Lanky ass Reggie Miller and John Stockton could play in that era but not guys like Steph and Lebron? Stop it.
Celtics started it tbh big 3
Kobe the goat
Yes
Yessir
The ball boy?
How?
Snapple fact
Ngl these arguments get so old. Jordan would've this, Jordan would've that... He didn't. Jordan was the best ever when he retired. Now it's LeBron. That's fine, it doesn't make Jordan any less amazing. In 30 years there will probably be someone better than LeBron too. That's life.
Outside of longevity, how is Lebron a better player than Jordan?
@@jpokeezy002 Competition, versatility, stats, clutch shots, overall shooting percentage, size, passing, rebounding, IQ, etc....
@@cartershane339 for me the only 2 things Mike was better at was ft and defensive that's it but that's just me
@@dillonsparks115he is a better scorer literally avgs more points. So he better on scoring ( offense) and defense.
@@cartershane339 Did you just say bron is better clutch shooter??? Brah please pass me some of this shit I have to try it!!!
Kobe's overrated
PLAYERS HAD SIGNATURE SNEAKERS WAY BEFORE JORDAN EVEN CAME INTO THE LEAGUE...
Yea but he kicked the Dore down and made them poplar and a signature thing
They had sneaker endorsements. I don't think any of them actually had a shoe named after them, though.
Come PG let's not wile out. Everyone know MJ the GOAT. Championships, scoring titles, defensive titles, no final loses, competitive spirit, the oh yeah you won MVP, ima show you mentality. Bron good too but there's no comparison here.
jordan is a media creation in a watered down league. that being said ... there are no goats in TEAM sports!
Jordan is at best Jason Tatum now LOL. Wasn't highschool lebron cooking all NBA players including Jordan in a secret scrim? Tom Haraway came into the league criss crossing jordan , tf you think steph and kyrie doing to him. Are you telling me that Isiah T and Charles Barkely was is harder competition than all these NBA stars today? Like every sport, the sport evolves and becomes better. If were talking about who is the best compared to their generation its Jordan. But can we stop acting like all sports don't evolve and just get overall better. Can you imagine what the NBA will look like in 15 years when all the kids watching Steph do all this shit are grown? Go watch any nba final in the 90s and tell me that shit will pass today.
For me greatness is how big of an impact a person can make. If Lebron swapped teams with MJ and played in the same era, can he get those same 6 rings the answer is DEFINITELY. Now if anyone on the history of basketball swapped teams with Lebron could they achieve the same thing that Lebron achieved? DEBATABLE.
Lebron is the GOAT
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MJ is great, but I don’t think we understand the 90s media agenda to push basketball and throw accolades at Jordan to push him forward. Like they literally call him the greatest player of all time before his career even end and everything.
My GOAT will forever be LeBron, you will never change that, but that doesn’t mean Jordan isn’t great or as great. He just doesn’t resonate with me. I hate selfish ball hog bastard, doesn’t mean he isn’t great, I just don’t like that type of player.
No one talks about this.
lol MJ is a shooting guard that averaged 6 assists for his career and had multiple games of double digit assists and even averaged double digits assists in his first finals, and won 6 rings in a team sport and you call him a selfish ball hog bastard lol throwing accolades at MJ like he didnt have the stats to back up why he got them ?
its okay if he doesnt resonate with you but the reasons are disingenuous
such a corny take......he just said Lebron is better but only bc Jordan didn't know how good Lebron would be. Lame. LeBron is the best player weve ever seen
Put Prime MJ in lebron Era , i think he can't get 6 ring.. 🤔
LeBron is bigger, faster, stronger, more athletic he can do everything Michael Jordan can do but better
Jordan is way more athletic than lebron, Jordan is more skilled, and has done more than lebron in 13 season than lebron has done in 20 seasons, you just don't know basketball
It’s KOBE FIRST
At bricks 🧱
@@skywalker2676 you slow much?
Kobe is not even top 10