"6v6 won't save overwatch" Classic Overwatch is the most played gamemode in the last season, that's because there's only 29 heroes and things actually die unlike Overwatch 2 where Kiriko is the first problem
Yeah but would anyone care at this point? OW2 was doomed to die ever since they announced 5v5 and released the last 5 (terrible and boring) maps. It was just a matter of time
Nah, people say that every time a new game is released yet OW2 is still going. Even calling rivals devs passionate means nothing, they need to put effort in so the game isn't dead at launch 😂
A lot of those issues you addressed are the fault of the 5v5 format. The biggest one being the counterswap meta. That simply goes away when there are 2 tanks. You dont get nearly as much value from it. Tanks being overpowered is also a format issue that is solved in 6v6. Tanks dont need to be so good when there are 2 of them but when there is just 1 tank he need to be able to do the same roles as 2 so he needs to be good. You cant really say that overwatch has more problems than the format when the format causes half the problems you addressed.
The characters being unbalanced and poorly designed isn’t an issue of the format which was one of the main points of the video. The team making poor balancing decisions isn’t affected by 5v5 or 6v6.
At this point i just want them to re-release the last patch of OW1, release anniversary and winter skins, and otherwise don't touch the game Also, the biggest issue i have with the current 6v6 playtest is that they nerfed tankes into the ground, absolutely 0 fun to play, they should've just taken the open queue balancing and called it a day, that's everything it took, they overengineered a solution that ended up being the main problem Honestly pre-tank nerf open queue was the most fun i had since OW2 release, captured the OW1 spirit the best
The good thing is, it’s just a playtest so things are bound to change in a future 6v6 mode. I’d rather them not have the last patch of OW1 cuz the last thing we need is goats meta to be brought back. That would actually kill this game
Overbloat died when it became a literal slap fight with no one dying, Plus the facts they “balanced” every character so hard they are all boring to play. Or the fact the community was stupid toxic and trying to get into competitive was just asking to have ultra tryhards yell at you for dying 1 time. Game just turned bad
idk why i keep watchin' these given i haven't played since a year before overwatch 2 came out 💀 Perhaps I just like to see a game that has brought me pain on its knees begging, but you bring a good point at the end, communities for games do have a responsibility, especially the ones that feel... for lack of a better word entitled enough to believe they're solely above the dev team's opinions.
The reason i stopped playing ow is the same reason I stopped playing paladins and I loved playing both games, but they both somehow got more and more stale as the years went on and content became repetitive. Heck paladins just stopped releasing new characters entirely and the game is pretty much in maintenance mode now. I feel that soon OW2 wil start going down the same route. There's only so much content that devs can add to the game before they run out of ideas.
Some of the takes made in this video make me wonder if this guy even plays those games at an above the lowest skill level. Wym tanks and supports don’t do damage as much as DPS? I’m gold 2 now (above 90% of the player base btw) and I constantly have either one or multiple supports/tanks that outdamage all the dps in the game. Litereally solo tanked as Groot the last game and my damage was second to only like 2 ppl, while having 6 dps on both team combined. All that while having eating like 45k damage to the face. You used to have to work to dish out Gold damage as Zarya back in the day. Adam is literally a dps character with a revive. Sometimes, you press 1 button at a random ally just to heal them all and sometimes you press the other button just to buff all the other allied around you. 90% of his gameplay is shooting the enemy, no different from, let’s say, Hella. Mantis is literally a dps character. It’s in her kit. You have to damage buff yourself to heal and you have to attack enemies to be able to heal allies. Just a dps character with a support ult and some team buffs, unlike Mercy, who has to sustain her healing and damage buff in order to be effective. I’m also struggling to remember the last time Lucio, Orisa and Widow “fell out of the meta”. Was it 2020? Nah, this video has to be a troll.
I never said that tanks in OW NEVER do more damage or outperform dps in terms of damage in marvel rivals either. It’s pretty common for the tanks to do a similar amount of damage to them overall. But that’s not because the characters are designed to do so necessarily, that’s just how playing tank is a lot of the time since you’re in the front line making space for the rest of the team. I also never said, “Every support character is designed the same way in marvel rivals” either. I’m aware mantis and Adam both do lots of damage, but what I said still remains true. Neither of those characters are out damaging the dps on the team unless the dps are bad lmao. I’m Plat 3 in OW btw, since you were asking
6v6 is better but season 9 ruined the damn game. If players think it's bad, people are gonna complain about it. If this was any other product, it wouldn't be called unproductive to call that thing bad. Idk why we have this mindset of not hurting the devs feelings.
I think it’s mostly because it’s not the devs making the bad decisions for the game. (At least I hope so).Everyone believes that it’s blizzard making the game worse and id much rather shit on stupid company execs instead of a group of devs who are probably just doing their best in a shitty situation
@@Deventerous Devs who didn't want this to happen got fired or left, Devs who are not actually Devs but activists are the ones actively participating in killing those games.
@ that’s not true at all. I just used marvel as an example to show how OW can do certain things better. I even said that OW is still a good game at the end of the video.
@Deventerous But your points were awful. You use Adam's warlocks ult to compare it to mercy's old ult, there's a reasons it's old. Then you compare it to current Rez and say it's better because downsides. Adam warlocks ult is stupid. He rezzes a team, they are invulnerable for a few seconds, then he heals them back up to full. So the ult is risky when the Adam warlock doesn't have his full heals. Mercy's can't move in rez, and it has a cast time, and it's single target. Both these abilities are ass for different reasons
"6v6 won't save overwatch"
Classic Overwatch is the most played gamemode in the last season, that's because there's only 29 heroes and things actually die unlike Overwatch 2 where Kiriko is the first problem
nothing can save OW2 now since marvel rivals actually showed us what a passionate development team really is
I disagree, there’s plenty of chances for them to fix everything
@@Deventerous copium
Yeah but would anyone care at this point? OW2 was doomed to die ever since they announced 5v5 and released the last 5 (terrible and boring) maps. It was just a matter of time
Nah, people say that every time a new game is released yet OW2 is still going. Even calling rivals devs passionate means nothing, they need to put effort in so the game isn't dead at launch 😂
@@Deventerousand they're not using them because they're not passionate
This guy stinks
hey stop lookin in the mirror
Agreed, sucks at anatomy too
A lot of those issues you addressed are the fault of the 5v5 format. The biggest one being the counterswap meta. That simply goes away when there are 2 tanks. You dont get nearly as much value from it. Tanks being overpowered is also a format issue that is solved in 6v6. Tanks dont need to be so good when there are 2 of them but when there is just 1 tank he need to be able to do the same roles as 2 so he needs to be good. You cant really say that overwatch has more problems than the format when the format causes half the problems you addressed.
The characters being unbalanced and poorly designed isn’t an issue of the format which was one of the main points of the video. The team making poor balancing decisions isn’t affected by 5v5 or 6v6.
bro did not list one issue that going from 5v5 to 6v6 wouldn't solve or at least improve upon.
6v6 won’t change fundamentally broken character design and the roster being unbalanced. Pretty sure I said that in the video
At this point i just want them to re-release the last patch of OW1, release anniversary and winter skins, and otherwise don't touch the game
Also, the biggest issue i have with the current 6v6 playtest is that they nerfed tankes into the ground, absolutely 0 fun to play, they should've just taken the open queue balancing and called it a day, that's everything it took, they overengineered a solution that ended up being the main problem
Honestly pre-tank nerf open queue was the most fun i had since OW2 release, captured the OW1 spirit the best
The good thing is, it’s just a playtest so things are bound to change in a future 6v6 mode. I’d rather them not have the last patch of OW1 cuz the last thing we need is goats meta to be brought back. That would actually kill this game
terrible take omg please stop
You want goats meta to come back??
@@Deventerous He wants double shield meta back.
YOOOO NEW VIDEO DROP BEFORE GTA6
hero design ruined the game and so did 5v5. 6v6 will mostly save it.
Overbloat died when it became a literal slap fight with no one dying,
Plus the facts they “balanced” every character so hard they are all boring to play.
Or the fact the community was stupid toxic and trying to get into competitive was just asking to have ultra tryhards yell at you for dying 1 time. Game just turned bad
As long as Kiriko, Bap, Mauga, Orisa, Brig are in the game, the game won't be fun
I won’t argue with that 🫡
Finally Jesus Christ I thought I'd graduate before you upload again
Don’t worry. GTA 6 is still on the way so that’s my next benchmark
The buck bumble song is a crazy deep cut
You know ball
Bro's alive!
YESSIRR
yeah iff roudhog stays this usless in it
idk why i keep watchin' these given i haven't played since a year before overwatch 2 came out 💀
Perhaps I just like to see a game that has brought me pain on its knees begging, but you bring a good point at the end, communities for games do have a responsibility, especially the ones that feel... for lack of a better word entitled enough to believe they're solely above the dev team's opinions.
The reason i stopped playing ow is the same reason I stopped playing paladins and I loved playing both games, but they both somehow got more and more stale as the years went on and content became repetitive. Heck paladins just stopped releasing new characters entirely and the game is pretty much in maintenance mode now. I feel that soon OW2 wil start going down the same route. There's only so much content that devs can add to the game before they run out of ideas.
Some of the takes made in this video make me wonder if this guy even plays those games at an above the lowest skill level. Wym tanks and supports don’t do damage as much as DPS? I’m gold 2 now (above 90% of the player base btw) and I constantly have either one or multiple supports/tanks that outdamage all the dps in the game. Litereally solo tanked as Groot the last game and my damage was second to only like 2 ppl, while having 6 dps on both team combined. All that while having eating like 45k damage to the face. You used to have to work to dish out Gold damage as Zarya back in the day. Adam is literally a dps character with a revive. Sometimes, you press 1 button at a random ally just to heal them all and sometimes you press the other button just to buff all the other allied around you. 90% of his gameplay is shooting the enemy, no different from, let’s say, Hella. Mantis is literally a dps character. It’s in her kit. You have to damage buff yourself to heal and you have to attack enemies to be able to heal allies. Just a dps character with a support ult and some team buffs, unlike Mercy, who has to sustain her healing and damage buff in order to be effective.
I’m also struggling to remember the last time Lucio, Orisa and Widow “fell out of the meta”. Was it 2020?
Nah, this video has to be a troll.
I never said that tanks in OW NEVER do more damage or outperform dps in terms of damage in marvel rivals either. It’s pretty common for the tanks to do a similar amount of damage to them overall. But that’s not because the characters are designed to do so necessarily, that’s just how playing tank is a lot of the time since you’re in the front line making space for the rest of the team. I also never said, “Every support character is designed the same way in marvel rivals” either. I’m aware mantis and Adam both do lots of damage, but what I said still remains true. Neither of those characters are out damaging the dps on the team unless the dps are bad lmao. I’m Plat 3 in OW btw, since you were asking
6v6 is better but season 9 ruined the damn game. If players think it's bad, people are gonna complain about it. If this was any other product, it wouldn't be called unproductive to call that thing bad. Idk why we have this mindset of not hurting the devs feelings.
I think it’s mostly because it’s not the devs making the bad decisions for the game. (At least I hope so).Everyone believes that it’s blizzard making the game worse and id much rather shit on stupid company execs instead of a group of devs who are probably just doing their best in a shitty situation
@@Deventerous Devs who didn't want this to happen got fired or left, Devs who are not actually Devs but activists are the ones actively participating in killing those games.
@@Deventerous stuff like season 9 changes are made by devs not by blizzard
It reeks here
It sure does. Playing marvel with my friends after playing Overwatch solo for a while felt like taking a nice hot shower
Bro finally remembered to make a video 🙏
TRUE
Wokism + Nerfed Mei + Auto-Regen + Braindead Gameplay + 5v5 + Buffed Stats + Broken Balance + Removal of Defense Class = Game with a Terminal Cancer
Huh?
take your meds and stay off the computer
@@polar6066 Like a wise meme once said: "Wokes, Wokes everywhere."
-> Woke up in the morning
->*Woke*
-> Day Ruined, cannot enjoy morning.
9 hours and 76 views!?! Bro fell off (I just subscribed and have no idea what I’m talking about)
Thank you for subbing lol
Marvel rivals is just teammate rng
That’s every team shooter though
The legend will never die
HE'S SO BACK
How can they fix a game when no one is playing it😂 I love OW but everyone literally left for MR and only Asian servers keeping it alive
The hypocricy of this video is insane to me. Overwatch bad, MR good. Such a bad faith video
Please show me where I said this
@Deventerous You didn't say 'Overwatch bad, MR good'. That's essentially what the video is
@ that’s not true at all. I just used marvel as an example to show how OW can do certain things better. I even said that OW is still a good game at the end of the video.
@Deventerous But your points were awful. You use Adam's warlocks ult to compare it to mercy's old ult, there's a reasons it's old. Then you compare it to current Rez and say it's better because downsides. Adam warlocks ult is stupid. He rezzes a team, they are invulnerable for a few seconds, then he heals them back up to full. So the ult is risky when the Adam warlock doesn't have his full heals. Mercy's can't move in rez, and it has a cast time, and it's single target. Both these abilities are ass for different reasons
the copium is strong in this one, lil bro let go of ow already move on its already deadd