Neural DSP Mesa Boogie Mark IIC+ | 80s - 90s Tonebuilding

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  • @MilianMalivukMusic
    @MilianMalivukMusic  ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey everyone! Thanks for all the additional tips for tonebuilding with the plugin! I think I wasn't quite clear what I meant with "journey" back to the 80s and 90s. I didn't want to replicate any specifics tones from these eras but rather create something "retro inspired" by these times, which I think is best represented in the intro song, that is supposed to be a PERSONAL INTERPRETATION of what used to be. These tones were created with the purpose of being put into a song and a mix context, which is why they might sound a bit odd on their own. Keep riffing♥️

  • @maartenvanhelden934
    @maartenvanhelden934 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    For a tight sound: volume, treble and mid all high. Bass and drive as low as possible. Shape the sound with the 5 band eq.

  • @luketylerguitar
    @luketylerguitar ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Intro piece is definitely worth making into a full song 👌

  • @itdwellswithin
    @itdwellswithin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Milian. Your review of the Mark IIC+ was the first one that came into my feed and the first one I watched. And immediately it got me hooked. Really great review and coverage. But what was even greater and really set this review off for me was: 1. The intro song: immensely refreshing with unique style, songwriting and the production really made it shine. Also, the song blends beautifully with the era and highlights a few, of very many, elements of the essence of the amp, which by its turn let its versatility be shown, 2. The pickups: I just can’t get enough of them (immediately recalled their super nice and special rich sound texture from your older videos). Really enjoyed this. Props to you my man :)

  • @MacMillerHD
    @MacMillerHD ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That song at the beginning is awesome!

  • @ghostoforion1745
    @ghostoforion1745 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great vid! The production never fails to impress

  • @talltale9760
    @talltale9760 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice to see you rocking the rg still. I’m finally about to get mine after waiting on Ibanez to ship it out for three months. Backorder must be crazy.

  • @TheSpineSplitter1990
    @TheSpineSplitter1990 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I can understand why some of you in the comments don't like this plug in, these amps are a bit difficult to dial in. They are even tricky in the Fractal units too, but if you keep the bass and mids low and add the "V" eq shape and add an overdrive to tighten it you can get a really nice tight rhythm tone.

    • @TheSpineSplitter1990
      @TheSpineSplitter1990 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ThornWithinReally? looks like they're dropping the ball on their own plug ins.. I'm on the Fractal FM3, and very happy using these Mark Series amps. I haven't used the Neural DSP stuff in a while since the Nameless Suite. I gotta check this one out soon.

    • @naegleriafowleri2230
      @naegleriafowleri2230 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheSpineSplitter1990 you cant compare these shitty plugins to a fractal lmao plugins are mainly for people without the means for a physical modeler.

    • @fedrek000
      @fedrek000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's not the amp's fault, every fucking guy on YT sets it up wrong, gives up and puts the overdrive in front. They should at least have bothered to read the official manual.

  • @broncoxy
    @broncoxy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    that intro song was fckn awesome!
    also I can't get enough of that gorgeous RG...

  • @彭麒任
    @彭麒任 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    holy shit the guitar tone with the synth sounds soooo rad!

  • @Patrick-rf7vx
    @Patrick-rf7vx ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I think your tones are a bit of a miss here. Way too much mids in all of them. That’s what the graphic eq is for.

    • @Musamaliii
      @Musamaliii ปีที่แล้ว

      There’s a reason why bass exists. He’s making the tone based on studio use. He’s said this before in older videos

  • @pramesh.gurung
    @pramesh.gurung ปีที่แล้ว

    are you using any synth?? sounds sick.

  • @demondrive147
    @demondrive147 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ..such a lonely day .. and it's mine.
    Mix and video are awesome obv

  • @zevik84
    @zevik84 ปีที่แล้ว

    What happened to the pearl pickguard?

  • @Jettblack98
    @Jettblack98 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man that was great. You sound like Tesseract might be an influence on your sound. Freaking awesome.

  • @Nummue
    @Nummue ปีที่แล้ว

    what VST drum do you use 0:08

    • @MilianMalivukMusic
      @MilianMalivukMusic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      GGD one kit wonder metal shells and perfect drums cymbals

  • @digital360
    @digital360 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm literally coming to Luxembourg to steal that Ibanez from you. Not literally, but I do want it. 🤘😁

  • @non-continuum
    @non-continuum ปีที่แล้ว

    I am more interested in the guitar I must say. Also have an RG550, but how are you tuning it to Drop G#? What strings are you using? I never managed to get that low while still maintaining decent intonation. Thanks

    • @MilianMalivukMusic
      @MilianMalivukMusic  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It has the Baritone Slinky's from Ernie Ball. Intonation is okay-ish, I definitely need to finetune that.

    • @naegleriafowleri2230
      @naegleriafowleri2230 ปีที่แล้ว

      This guitar is not suited for that lmao

  • @alex.keylmk
    @alex.keylmk ปีที่แล้ว

    Please tell me, what model your guitar? Thanks for your reply.

    • @MilianMalivukMusic
      @MilianMalivukMusic  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ibanez RG550 with Legendary Siren Pickups

    • @alex.keylmk
      @alex.keylmk ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MilianMalivukMusic Thanks 🙏🏻

  • @TheH.W.
    @TheH.W. ปีที่แล้ว

    Milian, forgot to mention, i want that intro track on bandcamp, thx ;)

  • @thekramer1097
    @thekramer1097 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man this song was sooo sick. Is from any of your bands?

    • @MilianMalivukMusic
      @MilianMalivukMusic  ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually just wrote it for demonstration purposes, it was quite inspiring working with the plugin!

  • @TheDeedeeFiles
    @TheDeedeeFiles ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds good man

  • @vulgrim
    @vulgrim ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome riffs 🎉

  • @samasking6877
    @samasking6877 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice

  • @ruhrpottflo2249
    @ruhrpottflo2249 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Kleiner und wichtiger Tipp. Ein Mesa Boogie der Mark Serie kann nicht so eingestellt werden wie ein 5150, JVM oder MT15 Amp. Der EQ (Middle, Treble und Bass) muss ganz anders eingestellt werden. Treble : Dient der Gain Struktur. Hier kannst du den Gain Faktor höher oder niedriger einstellen.
    Bass : Runter auf 0 ! Sonst matscht es wie im Video.
    Mid : 10 Uhr.
    Der 5 Band EQ ganz rechts ist der Haupt EQ. Hier kannst du Bass wieder reinknallen. Der Rest erklärt sich dann selbst. Bei den Mark Amps wird ist das alles etwas anders . Ich besitze selbst einen Mark V und ich kann ich genauso muddy klingen lassen wenn ich ihn einstelle wie einen „normalen“ Amp.

    • @Rouwiinator
      @Rouwiinator ปีที่แล้ว

      Stimmt. Ich glaube das die erste eq sektion von dem Amp noch vor der gain stage sitzt und somit nicht an der gleichen stelle vom Signal sitzt wie bei anderen Amps. Ich glaube man kann sich das ganze so ähnlich wie ein "eq pedal" vor dem Amp vorstellen.

    • @ruhrpottflo2249
      @ruhrpottflo2249 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Rouwiinator ja so ist es. Deswegen kommen viele Leute mit den Boogies nicht so zurecht weil man eben die traditionellen Settings gewohnt ist.

    • @Rouwiinator
      @Rouwiinator ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ruhrpottflo2249 Ich finde ja gerade das macht die mark serie besonders. Ich konnte nie verstehen weshalb leute rectifier spielen wenn man einen mark hätte haben können.

    • @ruhrpottflo2249
      @ruhrpottflo2249 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Rouwiinator Ja das denke ich mir auch. Ich liebe meinen Mark V.

  • @some_g333
    @some_g333 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Looks like you don't know how to set a Mesa Mark series amp. The tone stack is pre gain so you have to cut bass and mid drastically before the graphic eq. Try bass at 0-1, mids at 3-5, treble at 8, then a v-shape for the graphic eq. This is how you get a good tone from Mark series amp, and it's well known. Should have done your research.

    • @mcbacau9315
      @mcbacau9315 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, and he call it ,,modern tone'' if he take down the bass from 5 to 4. I am going back home straight to my studio pre trough the dc5 return

    • @giosundance5643
      @giosundance5643 ปีที่แล้ว

      “Looks like you don’t know” bro humble yourself…you’re the reason why the guitar community is toxic

    • @Kupferhans
      @Kupferhans ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Looks like you don't know how to communicate in a constructive way.
      It's called Nonviolent Communication and it's a well known concept to formulate criticism in a way that doesn't feel downgrading for the other and therefore has the best chance to succeed. You should have researched it before commenting.

    • @GabiLotcu
      @GabiLotcu ปีที่แล้ว

      100% agree with you @Some_G

    • @justaamateur6533
      @justaamateur6533 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why shoud you have to do research before dialing in amp tone? Your tips seem useful but saying "Looks like you dont know how to dial a mesa mark" and "shoud have done your research" just sounds a little bit condescending lol

  • @haydenmufc725
    @haydenmufc725 ปีที่แล้ว

    fuck yes

  • @amitreznik2846
    @amitreznik2846 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a lonley day???:D

  • @bobwalters9151
    @bobwalters9151 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the video on this! I gotta say, not a fan....

  • @ivanglushko4232
    @ivanglushko4232 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job, but nothing similar with 80s-90s guitar tone🤷‍♂️ Nevertheless it’s a nice video though.

  • @6oundStudio
    @6oundStudio ปีที่แล้ว +4

    thank god we don't need to spend money on this lol

    • @shredcase
      @shredcase ปีที่แล้ว

      I still might 🤣

    • @6oundStudio
      @6oundStudio ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shredcase have you checked the trial? what are your thoughts?

    • @janschepenaar
      @janschepenaar ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You have to know how to dail in a mark series amp. With all respect, if you don't know how, it's gonna sound flubby, and harsh at the same time.

    • @shredcase
      @shredcase ปีที่แล้ว

      @@6oundStudio I'm currently doing a demo of Clairvoyant, I'm checking this out and demoing it this weekend though. My thoughts hearing other demos is that it has it's own flavor. I'm excited to give it a go and see if it inspires me to buy it.

  • @monsithomassi9269
    @monsithomassi9269 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That "Nu Metal" tone isn't anywhere near what i would have liked to have back then, sorry. It's just midmud.

  • @NO-TALK-GuitarPlugin
    @NO-TALK-GuitarPlugin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t underhand how Mesa Boogie could accept to put their name in such a bad sounding plugin… I mean Soldano already had bad experience with it… I can tell you those amp DO sound just one million time better I real life. Don’t make your judgment on MCII+ one this plugin

    • @SessionGold
      @SessionGold ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's your opinion. I have heard many good stories about the SLO100 plugin and really ALL their plugins. Personally I really like the Soldano plugin and I'm happy that I bought it.

    • @naegleriafowleri2230
      @naegleriafowleri2230 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      These plugins will never sound even close to the real thing and not even as good a fractal or their quadcortex is literally a business that profit from people who can’t afford a physical modeler lmao expensive ass plugins you might as well save and buy a quad cortex or fm3

    • @GabiLotcu
      @GabiLotcu ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@naegleriafowleri2230 I agree. Even the AX8 sound much better and you still feel the dynamic. I found that in standalone mode the only plugins that have a ,,real natural response" is the Universal audio with uad audio interface.

    • @fedrek000
      @fedrek000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This plugin sounds like Mesa Boogie, try to dial it not like that guy on the video. Amplitube and ToneX ones are official from Mesa and sound horrible, this one at least holds up to the real thing in many comparisons.