An undercover FBI agent testified that he was the one that come up with the '1776 returns' plot and that Tarrio and teh proud boys didn't go along with it.
@the3dhermit that's is so not true. There were informants in the crowd that were just there on their own. Illegally . They were informants for other crimes and nothing to do with the insurrection. When their handler was made aware of the individuals, they were also prosecuted for that too. The reason why some of the people seem to be incarcerated without charges. Theirs will probably remain seal so as to not link back to the cases they are informants to.
@@jazhunt21 so, the FBI, who has been caught multiple times fabricating evidence, breaking laws, and otherwise violating basic human rights SAID that they had no clue informants who are known to work for them were there and participating, and you just assume it's true because they SAID they had no clue what was going on? as stupid as that sounds, it's an even worse argument if you take time to think about it, since being as generous as I can be to your idea here, this was a highly politicized event at a very tense time, at a very important location that has security regularly. your argument would have to be the FBI is so inept and incapable of doing its job that despite knowing about this event and the risk factor well in advance, did not employ resources to deal with or observe this. for the FBI director to take forever to even make statements (IIRC on how long it took to respond) that they had no assets there, and still not have a clue who these people were not only during the event but well after, that's a case as to why they should not exist at that point due to how useless they are. so taking all of that, you can either believe they are so inept and incompetent that they couldn't track their own assets, unable to look into it, didn't have people on site, and then failed to review the people they were dealing with, OR you can just assume they are lying to you for the millionth time.
The ignorance of the hosts and those commenting is astounding! Tim literally made a fool of himself and you guys are celebrating like he just did something when Luke clearly exposed Tim for just talking out of his ass 😂😂😂
ALL should be pardoned. Their constitutional rights have been severely violated. Due process and a right to a speedy trial have clearly been spelled out and violated.
@givaFlyingFiggz a speedy trial depends on what you mean. If you're found guilty, in that speedy trial, you're doing the time they give. You have time served after your sentencing
Here’s the problem, the National Defense Authorization Act allows for the government to detain people suspected of terrorism indefinitely without charging them. This means they can label American citizens as terrorists and then detain them without due process.
@@darunealbane I never said Luke Beasley destroyed Tim. Tim destroyed himself. Honestly, most left wing commentators suck, they correct a pointless x post by whatever conservative and then go off on a tangent that isn't even relevant to the initial post they covered. They also lack articulation when it's just them and the camera. Now when they do debate actual people they do perform better but they are too nice and not aggressive enough.
He destroyed Tim. All tim did was use surface level details, yelling and being performative. Stating things as if they are definitive when minutes later he googles the case (showing not only did Tim not know the full details but also confirmed that Luke's statements were verifiably true.). Simply stating that luke was scared and unprepared, only shows someone's lack of knowledge on the situation and that they are leading into this with a heavy bias.
@silvydb so you are admiting to have not watched the segment .. just clips Everything Luke said was false/fake .. the inly part that on the surface was true was later after further research by time was proven false
"if I don't know about a specific topic I will still answer in the moment to the best of my ability. " This is the antithesis of the reason why everybody shouldn't have a podcast. And don't worry I'm very confident that the majority of the people who stumbled upon this podcast know is the fact that you do not know Tim Pool personally, it's not something anyone was concerned with
It was proven. They did find it. Tim was initially insulting Luke for not knowing the case, and then Tim doesn’t even know what he is charged with? This is a hilariously embarrassing discussion for Tim. He said Luke didn’t care about the facts, then we look up the facts, and the facts then are on Luke’s side, and as it turns out, Tim didn’t know the facts. He confidently ranted, without knowing any of the facts. It was a tribal position.
Wrong. The very end of the clip Tim points out that wiki doesn't list a source. Wiki is leftist propaganda a lot of the time. List a source that they were there to overthrow the government. Show me where they said they were there to overthrow the three branches from the posts. You can't.
@@UndgnfiedWrshprin that same video these 3 stooges are watching they go over that. Unfortunately, these 3 stooges are mainly watching clips of only Tim Pool yelling wrong and loudly. They don’t want to know the truth, they just want to hear Tim Pool yell. But in that video, they eventually go to the wikipedia page, Tim Pool is proven wrong, then they say, “oh wikipedia has a Left bias”
Can yall watch the full segment. When Tim out of nowhere lost it on Beasley I knew it was for crop clipping or whatever the term is ... Beasley is 22 years old and sat there against 4 grown ass men who didnt know what the hell they were talking about and showed them how to act LIKE A BOSS.
7:25 again...really stupid. If 2 people do a crime and they aren't the same crime then why should they get the same punishment???? You want to live in a world where a baby killer and a shop lifter are treated the same? Yeah that's not for me. That's super illogical
that's the stupidest part of the legal system when you look at digital piracy. you can go to jail for 20+ years for mass piracy or hosting pirated content, which is NOT damaging to the owner directly, but just making them unable to earn a (potential) sale (Unrealized gain) meanwhile you have a serial killer getting like, 10 years in prison, less with good behavior. courts are messed up.
Have you seen the Jury pool? The D.C population votes blue at a 92% clip.. it’s highly likely your peers would be viewing this with a biased lens. On top of the fact those same agencies that are located there.. staffed by people who mostly live there.. are the ones investigating and prosecuting the crimes. I don’t think it’s a reach to believe there’s an underlying bias..
11:50 i mean its pretty simple. If you're honest and have strong morals and care about facts then you'll answer regardless of if people hate on you for it or not. If you give an emotional response then there's more grey area for sure. But I understand what you're saying but good honest people being scared to give a good honest reaction to the "bad" things they see or hear hurts our society almost(not exactly of course) as much as the people doing the "bad" thing.
Honestly, you all should get out of politics and commentary on politics if this is how you proceed. You state you dont lnow the case, you proceed to state that he doesnt know the case. You then also assert details as solid facts..... AFTER ADMITTING YOU DONT KNOW THE CASE. If you dont understand the topics and are asked a question, either admit you dont know and move on; or look up the information and learn. All i saw was prediction without knowledge of the situation. I would love to talk to yall to see why you are like this and why you assert what you do.
You need to watch the whole thing. The kid killed them. When they finally let the kid talk, he gave them facts that they had to look up. When they did, they found that the kid was 100% right. They literally read it on air, proving themselves wrong. Then, when they got to the debt that trump created, again they looked up the actual pre-pandemic numbers, the kid was right again. They quickly took the bar graph off the screen. You're being biased and just listening to the yelling and thinking the loudest person was winning. This kid liked them. You're looking for justification for your beliefs. Enrique developed a plan to attack the Winter Kindom. Or whatever it was called. Please play what the kid said and the host looking at the facts and having to swallow his words. Then the host says, "Let me look at another source. after the host saw the same information, he changed the subject. Play the entire segment!
@@dabdab4208 which information specifically was wrong. That their was more debt under trump? You heard what you wanted to hear. You believed what you chose to believe. You didn't accept the reality.
@rainoffire24 bingo! I've seen multiple reviews of this show. When you put the pompoms down, ignore the yelling and rude behavior of the host. When allowed to complete a statement of thought, they could not dispute the facts. I was surprised that they actually pulled up the data on air and showed it. You can't get any more truthful than that. The kid just sat back and let them digest the public information. It wasn't that he was scared. When you're winning, you shut up. Watch them spin, deflect, and try to split hairs. The host kept trying to get the kid to argue a negative. He wouldn't fall for the trick. "What's your definition of my false statement ?" You can't define it, so I'm right. Stupid debating tricks.
Wow it's like almost as if people who have no business talking about a topic are literally trying to change the topic of what their subject title line specifies😊 and start talking about bands podcast because they have no idea what they're talking about LOL
5:50 100s were jailed iirc. But to be clear...it isn't a numbers game. The blm protests are different than the riot that was Jan 6. The overwhelming majority of the blm protests weren't riots, and were peaceful. Jan 6 was a riot in and of itself. So playing the numbers game here when the 2 aren't really that analogous is bad thinking. It's what tim does because he goes off of feels and vibes, and with that he's usually wrong on this kind of stuff. Tim is un-American and he is anti establishment.
Are you serious??? BILLIONS of dollars in damages is called peaceful protest?? Antifa and blm destroyed multiple neighborhoods in this country during 2020, nothing peaceful about it lol
14:40 yeah thats why you think tim pool is winning here haha. He's wrong with basaically everything he's posing but yeah he's saying it like he's right. Such a loser take. Be right before being boastful. Be reasonable before being prideful.
Early on in the review.....do yoyr research y'all thats how tim and people like him win. They rely on people not willing to fact check to support them. Because if you did you'd see most of his claims are incorrect. Most of his assertions are ill informed. Hopefully you guys course correct through this video im only about 3 minutes in
What don't y'all understand in that clip? Proud boys had informants in the group. Do more research if y'all go speak on it. Dude to the right didn't get it at all. Luke was right
I watched the whole video already though I enjoyed it more watching Destiny's commentary on it. I'm actually so sick of misinformation coming from right wing sources I'm trying to find a maga person to do a podcast with so I can articulatly and with drama/conflict showcase the truth dismantling their lies.
@asdharleychuck123 destiny cool. This is misinformation at its finest. I can see how ole dude to the right don't understand what's going on. He's not listening to what's being said, nor did he look it up to educate himself
An undercover FBI agent testified that he was the one that come up with the '1776 returns' plot and that Tarrio and teh proud boys didn't go along with it.
Link to the video please
Was also the Feds in black bloc who broke the windows. And the local police pushing people inside. And the local police escorting folks around inside.
@the3dhermit that's is so not true. There were informants in the crowd that were just there on their own. Illegally .
They were informants for other crimes and nothing to do with the insurrection. When their handler was made aware of the individuals, they were also prosecuted for that too. The reason why some of the people seem to be incarcerated without charges. Theirs will probably remain seal so as to not link back to the cases they are informants to.
@@jazhunt21 so, the FBI, who has been caught multiple times fabricating evidence, breaking laws, and otherwise violating basic human rights SAID that they had no clue informants who are known to work for them were there and participating, and you just assume it's true because they SAID they had no clue what was going on?
as stupid as that sounds, it's an even worse argument if you take time to think about it, since being as generous as I can be to your idea here, this was a highly politicized event at a very tense time, at a very important location that has security regularly. your argument would have to be the FBI is so inept and incapable of doing its job that despite knowing about this event and the risk factor well in advance, did not employ resources to deal with or observe this.
for the FBI director to take forever to even make statements (IIRC on how long it took to respond) that they had no assets there, and still not have a clue who these people were not only during the event but well after, that's a case as to why they should not exist at that point due to how useless they are.
so taking all of that, you can either believe they are so inept and incompetent that they couldn't track their own assets, unable to look into it, didn't have people on site, and then failed to review the people they were dealing with, OR you can just assume they are lying to you for the millionth time.
The ignorance of the hosts and those commenting is astounding! Tim literally made a fool of himself and you guys are celebrating like he just did something when Luke clearly exposed Tim for just talking out of his ass 😂😂😂
20 years? A guy got 20 years and he was in a different state when it happened!! No. Every single person charged needs to be pardoned!! Immediately
ALL should be pardoned. Their constitutional rights have been severely violated. Due process and a right to a speedy trial have clearly been spelled out and violated.
@@givaFlyingFiggz doesn't work like that. Conspiracy is a crime.
@@krazkeelo9032 You still have the right to a speedy trial, you still have due process of law.
@givaFlyingFiggz yea. Nobody's saying they don't. I'm saying, he was indicated on actual lawful charges. Do you agree?
@givaFlyingFiggz a speedy trial depends on what you mean. If you're found guilty, in that speedy trial, you're doing the time they give. You have time served after your sentencing
@@givaFlyingFiggz how was his right to due process violated, he went to court right? That's due process
6:31
St johns church was after they tried to firebomb the WH
Here’s the problem, the National Defense Authorization Act allows for the government to detain people suspected of terrorism indefinitely without charging them. This means they can label American citizens as terrorists and then detain them without due process.
This kid is a TRUE BLUE NPC and actually has no idea that he is the fascist.
@@ArtisticTomahawk and Tim has never read the indictments of any of the January 6th defendants.
@asdharleychuck123 He obviously has. He mentioned some in that episode...
@@ArtisticTomahawkI watch Tim Pool daily and he has never read through the indictment nor the memo. I swear as God is my witness.
@@asdharleychuck123he's actually gone into them at lengte multiple times
Republicans are abusrd. You call the democrats faschists and you call them communists at the same time.
Love the ppl that obviously did not watch this show but says the kid "destroyed" tim
@@darunealbane I never said Luke Beasley destroyed Tim. Tim destroyed himself. Honestly, most left wing commentators suck, they correct a pointless x post by whatever conservative and then go off on a tangent that isn't even relevant to the initial post they covered. They also lack articulation when it's just them and the camera. Now when they do debate actual people they do perform better but they are too nice and not aggressive enough.
He destroyed Tim. All tim did was use surface level details, yelling and being performative. Stating things as if they are definitive when minutes later he googles the case (showing not only did Tim not know the full details but also confirmed that Luke's statements were verifiably true.). Simply stating that luke was scared and unprepared, only shows someone's lack of knowledge on the situation and that they are leading into this with a heavy bias.
@silvydb so you are admiting to have not watched the segment .. just clips
Everything Luke said was false/fake .. the inly part that on the surface was true was later after further research by time was proven false
Because he clearly did
@theminiification not even close
1+1 doesn't equal 2 when im not confident! I learned something today.
Luke isnt worth the fake paper hes printed on
"if I don't know about a specific topic I will still answer in the moment to the best of my ability. " This is the antithesis of the reason why everybody shouldn't have a podcast. And don't worry I'm very confident that the majority of the people who stumbled upon this podcast know is the fact that you do not know Tim Pool personally, it's not something anyone was concerned with
No one considered searching for the name of the man unfairly imprisoned for three years?
So the claim a man has been locked up for 3 years with no charges is false.
It was proven. They did find it. Tim was initially insulting Luke for not knowing the case, and then Tim doesn’t even know what he is charged with? This is a hilariously embarrassing discussion for Tim. He said Luke didn’t care about the facts, then we look up the facts, and the facts then are on Luke’s side, and as it turns out, Tim didn’t know the facts. He confidently ranted, without knowing any of the facts. It was a tribal position.
Wrong. The very end of the clip Tim points out that wiki doesn't list a source. Wiki is leftist propaganda a lot of the time. List a source that they were there to overthrow the government. Show me where they said they were there to overthrow the three branches from the posts. You can't.
That’s bs and you know it.
@ oh, so it’s feelings over facts now?
@@jweezy101491 post the exact quote of them calling to overthrow the government, or else you're the one going on feelings and not facts.
@@UndgnfiedWrshprin that same video these 3 stooges are watching they go over that. Unfortunately, these 3 stooges are mainly watching clips of only Tim Pool yelling wrong and loudly. They don’t want to know the truth, they just want to hear Tim Pool yell. But in that video, they eventually go to the wikipedia page, Tim Pool is proven wrong, then they say, “oh wikipedia has a Left bias”
Tim is a bit of a tool... but he is on pint with this subject
18:40
Later, after a deeper dive, the "memo" was not real
@@darunealbane wait, what? Which memo. My bad, it didn't notify me
@@darunealbane let's do this. You can send which section you read that said it wasn't real, with proof, it wasn't real
@@darunealbane don't even send the proof, just send the section
@krazkeelo9032 that was the main "evidence" that the whole case was based on/around acourding to wiki and news sources
It never existed
@@darunealbane show me proof it didn't. I read the memo. Now you have to prove it's fake
Can yall watch the full segment.
When Tim out of nowhere lost it on Beasley I knew it was for crop clipping or whatever the term is ... Beasley is 22 years old and sat there against 4 grown ass men who didnt know what the hell they were talking about and showed them how to act LIKE A BOSS.
If he came prepared, he would end up agreeing with Tim. The only way you can have an opposing view of the J6'ers is to be ignorant.
7:25 again...really stupid. If 2 people do a crime and they aren't the same crime then why should they get the same punishment???? You want to live in a world where a baby killer and a shop lifter are treated the same? Yeah that's not for me. That's super illogical
that's the stupidest part of the legal system when you look at digital piracy. you can go to jail for 20+ years for mass piracy or hosting pirated content, which is NOT damaging to the owner directly, but just making them unable to earn a (potential) sale (Unrealized gain)
meanwhile you have a serial killer getting like, 10 years in prison, less with good behavior.
courts are messed up.
Tim is informed and logical.
Tim is ridiculous and out of control.
Last comment from me. The case is public information now. The plan is detailed there. The kid is right. The jury agreed and found Enrique guilty.
the fact is that Luke Beasley is the only one that came prepared for this. Tim Pool looked like a dumb, loud, a-hole.
Have you seen the Jury pool?
The D.C population votes blue at a 92% clip.. it’s highly likely your peers would be viewing this with a biased lens.
On top of the fact those same agencies that are located there.. staffed by people who mostly live there.. are the ones investigating and prosecuting the crimes.
I don’t think it’s a reach to believe there’s an underlying bias..
Bro what?😂 so you agree with fascism..got it ok, cool.
@@raviolijesus6181 are liberals faschists or communists. Make up your mind.
@@raviolijesus6181 you're a great example of republicans that grasp onto buzz words without knowing what they actually mean.
11:50 i mean its pretty simple. If you're honest and have strong morals and care about facts then you'll answer regardless of if people hate on you for it or not. If you give an emotional response then there's more grey area for sure. But I understand what you're saying but good honest people being scared to give a good honest reaction to the "bad" things they see or hear hurts our society almost(not exactly of course) as much as the people doing the "bad" thing.
Honestly, you all should get out of politics and commentary on politics if this is how you proceed. You state you dont lnow the case, you proceed to state that he doesnt know the case. You then also assert details as solid facts..... AFTER ADMITTING YOU DONT KNOW THE CASE. If you dont understand the topics and are asked a question, either admit you dont know and move on; or look up the information and learn.
All i saw was prediction without knowledge of the situation. I would love to talk to yall to see why you are like this and why you assert what you do.
If i asked you to solve a math equation without giving you the full equation, would you give me an answer?
You need to watch the whole thing. The kid killed them.
When they finally let the kid talk, he gave them facts that they had to look up. When they did, they found that the kid was 100% right. They literally read it on air, proving themselves wrong.
Then, when they got to the debt that trump created, again they looked up the actual pre-pandemic numbers, the kid was right again. They quickly took the bar graph off the screen.
You're being biased and just listening to the yelling and thinking the loudest person was winning. This kid liked them. You're looking for justification for your beliefs.
Enrique developed a plan to attack the Winter Kindom. Or whatever it was called. Please play what the kid said and the host looking at the facts and having to swallow his words. Then the host says, "Let me look at another source. after the host saw the same information, he changed the subject. Play the entire segment!
I watched the whole thing. Kid was wrong and had 50% of the information correct.
@@dabdab4208 which information specifically was wrong. That their was more debt under trump? You heard what you wanted to hear. You believed what you chose to believe. You didn't accept the reality.
@rainoffire24 bingo! I've seen multiple reviews of this show. When you put the pompoms down, ignore the yelling and rude behavior of the host. When allowed to complete a statement of thought, they could not dispute the facts. I was surprised that they actually pulled up the data on air and showed it. You can't get any more truthful than that. The kid just sat back and let them digest the public information. It wasn't that he was scared. When you're winning, you shut up. Watch them spin, deflect, and try to split hairs.
The host kept trying to get the kid to argue a negative. He wouldn't fall for the trick. "What's your definition of my false statement ?" You can't define it, so I'm right. Stupid debating tricks.
@@jazhunt21 Time has yet to learn what an argument in good faith is. He makes a living off of bad faith arguments and russian rubles.
Sorry but you guys are so off. You are unaware of the lies Tim spews.
Where was the lie? Like Tim said "Give me some fucking data".
@@dabdab4208 their "fucking data" is probably a wall street post article "showing" what happened.
Wow it's like almost as if people who have no business talking about a topic are literally trying to change the topic of what their subject title line specifies😊 and start talking about bands podcast because they have no idea what they're talking about LOL
Nah. I like tim but made a fool of himself in this segment.
Lol watch the full thing. Tim pulled up the facts and the kid was right. Yall look idiotic
Guilty by association
Unless you get a pardon like Hunter
2:43 yeah the guy tim was talking about was charged. So tim was wrong about that. He was wrong about most of what he brought up
5:50 100s were jailed iirc. But to be clear...it isn't a numbers game. The blm protests are different than the riot that was Jan 6. The overwhelming majority of the blm protests weren't riots, and were peaceful. Jan 6 was a riot in and of itself. So playing the numbers game here when the 2 aren't really that analogous is bad thinking. It's what tim does because he goes off of feels and vibes, and with that he's usually wrong on this kind of stuff. Tim is un-American and he is anti establishment.
Are you serious??? BILLIONS of dollars in damages is called peaceful protest?? Antifa and blm destroyed multiple neighborhoods in this country during 2020, nothing peaceful about it lol
This is pathetic on your part. Luke cooked that Russian asset
14:40 yeah thats why you think tim pool is winning here haha. He's wrong with basaically everything he's posing but yeah he's saying it like he's right. Such a loser take. Be right before being boastful. Be reasonable before being prideful.
Early on in the review.....do yoyr research y'all thats how tim and people like him win. They rely on people not willing to fact check to support them. Because if you did you'd see most of his claims are incorrect. Most of his assertions are ill informed. Hopefully you guys course correct through this video im only about 3 minutes in
What don't y'all understand in that clip? Proud boys had informants in the group. Do more research if y'all go speak on it. Dude to the right didn't get it at all. Luke was right
Luke should have told Tim to read the indictments for everyone he brought up.
@asdharleychuck123 yea, he messed that one moment up, but if you watch a few more minutes of it, Luke does explain it a little better.
@asdharleychuck123 Luke is just too nice, he holds back because he doesn't want confrontation, I guess
I watched the whole video already though I enjoyed it more watching Destiny's commentary on it.
I'm actually so sick of misinformation coming from right wing sources I'm trying to find a maga person to do a podcast with so I can articulatly and with drama/conflict showcase the truth dismantling their lies.
@asdharleychuck123 destiny cool. This is misinformation at its finest. I can see how ole dude to the right don't understand what's going on. He's not listening to what's being said, nor did he look it up to educate himself