Internal vs External Water Pumps
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ค. 2013
- This is a video where I talk about the basic differences between external and internal water pumps used in an aquarium. This video is intended to be a basic introduction to water pumps and the advantages of external vs internal pumps.
Good job Jay
Very good video. Thanks.
Before I did the saltwater tank I used to do the cichlids as well, really liked the electric blues. With both the saltwater and freshwater systems I have had both internal and external return pumps and both work fine. You are right that space in the sump is far more of an issue with saltwater systems and keeping the water cooler is always a battle. I would say if your in sump return pump is working fine stick with it, there is always other places you can spend your money. :)
Thanks I was debating which style pump i should get. Looks like external it is!
Thanks for the video. everyone loves info in this hobby.
Does the blue line pump work off a float like regular sumps? I need a back up sump pump but my sump hole is so small only the one in it right now will fit. I was hoping to use an above ground pump with a float that just sat down in the sump hole. Good video!
Thanks for the informative vid sir. I've been planing to buy a external pump.
Like my external pumps but I will probably switch to an internal DC pump on my new build but I will use my externals for my new saltwater mixing station.
I'll probably try your external set up cause im planning to make a pond. hehe.
Thanks for the video! It seems to me that the main benefits of external pumps are less heat in water and more space in the sump... so external may be the way to go with saltwater systems (where the fish prefer cooler water and there may be lots of components in the sump). I have a sump for a freshwater tank with South American cichlids... so after watching your video, I think I'll stay with an internal sump pump (warmer water is good for SA cichlids, and I have room in my sump). Thoughts?
Are these extrrnal pumps self priming or you have to have water in the pipe all the time?
Less plumbing and less noise for sure but in regards to energy it really just depends, you have to compare one to another. I have found that my external pumps last longer than my internal but they better because they cost a lot more.
does a internal pond pump have to be submerged, i have a 600gph that i want to use in a diy filter system for a 55g
Can't tell you on that one. Some of the internal water pumps can be run either internal or external while others have to be internal. I would check out the manufactures website to find out how you can use your pump.
Thanks for the response, I found the instruction label for and mine must be submerged or it will burn out in 30mins.
Ok thanks! :)
I do have a question for you regarding internal vs. external water pumps, but in a real small application...
Basically a small water fountion, circulating maybe only one or two gallons of water.
Just about all fountains I've looked at, come with internal pumps. And I've looked at indoor tabletop types, on up to larger outdoor garden fountains.
I know these internal pumps require more maintenance, and are probably 'only used' for economic reasons.
These ultra small pumps are probably imported by the 'boatload', at a cost of 'maybe' a couple dollars a piece.
I'm trying to design and build something on my own, (not really available on the market), and would like to ask your opinion and feedback on this.
I will also be incorporating an aquarium chiller into this project of mine, so your input may be very useful.
But how do I contact you? I'm not a user of facebook, twitter, or any of that other stuff... just e-mail.
I don't know if it would be proper, (or a good idea), for me to leave my e-mail address 'here', and I don't know if you would be able to respond to this feedback, and get ahold of me, through leaving this feedback, (I do hope so!).
In all my years, this is the first time I've tried something like this...
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where do you get the magline pump? I can't find any info on them...
92HondaEX Not sure if they even sell them anymore. I have bought some in the past at Fosters and Smith.
hi jay, please could you help me before I do a wrong move....I have a seastar hx-2160 pump (15W h.max:0.8m q.max:800L/H), and a resun submersible sp-500D pump (5W hmax:0.6m qmax:200L/H) and as I'm an absolute beginner just starting out I have no idea how to set them up properly & what they're both capable of?? I bought them brand new but from a guy who's selling up to move house (didn't tell me much except that they've not even been used yet but supposed to be v.good), all I know so far is that they both work out of water (don't seem to be very powerful though?), and the resun 500D submersible also works in a bucket of water but also didn't seem to be very powerful, am I doing something wrong? and can the seastar HX-2160 also go in the water?? I'm very keen to get on with things so would be extremely grateful for any advise as I cannot find any websites with these exact same pumps on?.......aaaarrrrgghh can anyone please help me quickly?? thanks. Adie 'The Desperado'.
Not sure i can be much help since I don't have any experience with the pumps your referred to. One thing based on the wattage of the pumps 5w and 15w I would expect them to move much water unless they are DC pumps (they require less power). It seems that the direction of return pumps are headed to DC pumps instead of the old AC pumps like I had in my video. The new DC pumps will allow you to vary the output flow to your needs and they use far less power. I think I would try and look up your pumps on the manufactures website to see if they will meet your needs. Sorry I can't be more help.
Good
Can i use an external pump for my waterfall
Don't know why you couldn't.
what was the manufacters name of the one in the middle.the 50 60 dollar one
07eaglejuice That was an older Danner Mag Drive pump. Not sure if they even make those anymore.
can this pump be used in a 150gallons fish pond?
My thought would be yes but I have never had a fish pond. You may want to call an aquarium store that sells these pumps and ask them.
jayhawkscott
ok i will do
thanks
Thanks.informative
Plan to buy an e.p.
I have used many different pumps and external is the way to go. Mag pumps are cheap toy pumps that add alot of heat to your tank. A mag 7 I had raised the temp of my 300 gallon from 80 to 88 degrees. I pulled that pump and used a Panworld 200 and temps went back to 80.
For external - Iwaki, Panworld, Little Giant or Reeflo (for 3000+ gph)
Internal - Eheim better than mag for heat transfer.
Most people go with internal due to cost. Lil giants and Panworlds are a pretty good bang for the dollar and last for years. My lil giants ran 8 years 24/7 and still work. Never even cleaned them.
Hard to argue with anything you have said here. I think the old saying holds true when it comes to aquariums "you tend to get what you pay for" and with water pumps if you get a pump for cheap then you probably got a cheap pump.
Thanks for watching!!!
how much does it cost to run those pumps?
dumpster baby Cost really varies. You need to look at the watts that the pumps require and you can do the calculation. One thing to consider is that if the pump is submersible that it will create heat and you may have to do something to help keep the heat down in your tank which will require more cost.
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heat is not big issue im hearing it 1st time , it has no effect on temp its very minute and when you drop water from few inches it balances it like from small waterfall or outlet thats raised 1 or 2 inches above water level , other thing can be done is adding air tube some pumps come with it , submerged are energy efficient if u calculate watts and g/h
i just have both and have no problem and in fact i have the most clean water ever
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i prefer internal pump, less energy used, less noise. less plumping. less rust! that's just me.. lol