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  • @seanpeacock4290
    @seanpeacock4290 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4381

    Hey when you make a new character you need to make an entrance. And when a character dies it should be memorable. He did both in 5min.

    • @Player-si5rx
      @Player-si5rx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +226

      in fact it was probably like 15 seconds, even better.

    • @bocatadeclavos1274
      @bocatadeclavos1274 4 ปีที่แล้ว +268

      The madlad speedran d&d in his first game

    • @master0fthearts894
      @master0fthearts894 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Zee accomplished the impossible...

    • @beep3038
      @beep3038 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Maybe that's why he didn't make neither an entrance or a menorable death. It was a short character

    • @benkayvfalsifier3817
      @benkayvfalsifier3817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@beep3038 No, the halfling rogue was a short character. 🤣

  • @Keaggan
    @Keaggan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +815

    "I was playing with people that introduced me to a world were I wasn't the main character." - Best Quote Ever

  • @scienceface8884
    @scienceface8884 5 ปีที่แล้ว +775

    >First character was a half-angel half-demon edgelord dressed like a final fantasy protagonist who died of edge overdose before the game even started.
    Holy crap, are you me?!?

    • @kaleidoslug7777
      @kaleidoslug7777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@goldfish6525 that sounds like getting stabbed with extra steps

    • @ogrefeet6077
      @ogrefeet6077 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      +2 blade of sharpness over here

  • @danielpage1429
    @danielpage1429 6 ปีที่แล้ว +362

    I like how the DM handled it... instead of just saying "No." He let the character do what he said... then applied the consequences.

    • @chadbrochill19
      @chadbrochill19 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Always say, 'yes'! It's a good DM move, again there are always consequences. If you're unsure, use the rule of cool and make a ruling. Check it later and establish the rule so if it ever comes up, go with that.

    • @Hebdomad7
      @Hebdomad7 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@willumsmith1177 The best adventures are made from the worst decisions.

    • @danielpage1429
      @danielpage1429 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sometimes there are consequences for small things. Like reading a book and two characters die due to explosive runes.

    • @rushthefox2732
      @rushthefox2732 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I kinda don’t like the consequences thing dms do cause consequences can be fair to put right ridiculous

    • @rushthefox2732
      @rushthefox2732 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also the dm should always ask what he wants to do with players characters first hand

  • @hershmergersh6733
    @hershmergersh6733 3 ปีที่แล้ว +818

    2 and a half years later and we're still waiting for the Tiberius episode...I don't think it's gonna happen folks

    • @Andrew-ih2gz
      @Andrew-ih2gz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Truly the tragedy of our lifetimes.

    • @d4s0n282
      @d4s0n282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      it sounds like it would be awesome sadg

    • @kappaross6124
      @kappaross6124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Any day now

    • @mrsalmon3791
      @mrsalmon3791 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I think he said in a stream that he didnt want to make it without the player's permission but since he hasn't seen him in years it's unlikely

    • @TheJanitorIsIn
      @TheJanitorIsIn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      C'mon I can still hope
      It's still in the hearts and minds of us Gygaxian-brains out here

  • @TheeGlobFather
    @TheeGlobFather 6 ปีที่แล้ว +367

    "you take 359 damage from the fall, and you die."
    yup. pretty much.

    • @Unclaimed_Username
      @Unclaimed_Username 6 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Having them roll a listen check to see if anyone could hear the faint chords of heavy metal as he passed by would've been great.

    • @TheeGlobFather
      @TheeGlobFather 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@burnkern yes.

  • @thelegend8570
    @thelegend8570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    the fact that he actually rolled damage for that instead of just "you die" is absolutely amazing, i wouldn't even be mad tbh

  • @mobi2289
    @mobi2289 4 ปีที่แล้ว +366

    I'm sad we still haven't gotten an episode on Tiberius

    • @MyCharacterGreyHeart
      @MyCharacterGreyHeart 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      We NEED that episode though!

    • @meteor1422
      @meteor1422 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I was going to say this, too. (Im)patiently waiting for the Tiberius episode!

    • @neog8029
      @neog8029 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Transmutation is the key, my boys!! Transmutation is the key!!!

  • @mobiust708
    @mobiust708 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    5 years ago, and we still don't have a video dedicated to Tiberius and his player. One day it will happen!

    • @dqflynn
      @dqflynn ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Still waiting two weeks from this comment. C'mon...

    • @boumazzamouad6001
      @boumazzamouad6001 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      we want Tiberius video

    • @329link
      @329link 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The dude sounds like he was a godlike player just from that small snippet we got.

  • @charliemelville456
    @charliemelville456 3 ปีที่แล้ว +228

    Two years later, and I'm still looking forward to that Tiberius video. The nostalgia you talked about him with? Man, I'd love to see you talk about him more.

  • @Zerphses
    @Zerphses 6 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    Please do a Tiberius Episode! That’d be awesome! It’d be an awesome guide to roleplaying a character correctly.

  • @justafaniv1097
    @justafaniv1097 6 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    "We're basically gods!".
    .
    .
    .
    Thud.

    • @ShireNomad
      @ShireNomad 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Justafan IV "This is too many dice for me to roll."

    • @Grey_Shard
      @Grey_Shard 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      had to upvote for the critical role ref.

    • @ohwowitsthatguy9154
      @ohwowitsthatguy9154 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      "Did you just say we're Gods? Why would you even tempt that shit?"

  • @catoticneutral
    @catoticneutral 6 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    Legends say that every 1000 animated spellbooks the mighty Edgelord Fenris is reborn in the heavens only to majestly face-plummet into the earth and die. Clearly the most metal man in existence but he doesn't accomplish much.

    • @Bluecho4
      @Bluecho4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      He's too metal for this sinful world, and expires on contact. At terminal velocity.

    • @chongwillson972
      @chongwillson972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      the world will know pain when he learns feather fall...

  • @majickman
    @majickman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    I like to imagine he has the ability to reincarnate but every time he does he just falls from the sky again, barely having enough time to say "not again" before he splats on the ground.

    • @oliviawallace3636
      @oliviawallace3636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hitchhiker's guide, cute

    • @wf1675
      @wf1675 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      a large colony of goblins live around the site feasting on the remains of the ever increasing pile of angel's defending themselves with all of the looted gear and offering sacrifices to it

    • @hariodinio
      @hariodinio 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've been falling for 8 hours

  • @probablythedm1669
    @probablythedm1669 6 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Sounds like the DM saved you from becoming "that guy", in a rather brutal fashion. I like it! Though I don't think I'd let your initial character into my game at all. :P

    • @chongwillson972
      @chongwillson972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      although he DID fall from the skies at level 1

  • @shockzone4595
    @shockzone4595 6 ปีที่แล้ว +270

    Zee: my character falls from the sky like a comet
    DM: *welp, here we go.*

  • @trappleton
    @trappleton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +202

    I would *absolutely* advocate for doing this in a modern game. And then ask the player what the hell they had done to warrant getting booted off Mount Olympus.

    • @leahbeah1585
      @leahbeah1585 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      sure sure, but I would also say if this were to happen in your game there were some MAJOR communication issues with character creation, you should know as the DM if one of your characters wants to introduce their character by making them fall from the sky. Those communication issues could be the fault of the DM or the player or both but they are issues nonetheless.

    • @vincejester7558
      @vincejester7558 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@leahbeah1585 Spoken like a true 5e kid.

    • @leahbeah1585
      @leahbeah1585 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@vincejester7558 if wanting open communication between player and dm makes me a 5e kid I gladly accept

    • @catbiscuits4424
      @catbiscuits4424 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm the kind of player who likes it that rough but as for whether I'd advocate for it... It depends on the type of players, scene, DM and game and in a way, that is a matter of communication and reading the room.
      Its context that's key in this case.
      "Spoken like a true 5e kid"... Yeah there's more ways then one to be a gooby edge lord bud.
      High and close communication can be good but it's also a lot of extra work in comparison to the older style of just focussing on running the setting, letting the dice roll where they may.
      It's up to players and DM's alike to find their people, I don't think any play style is inherently bad and so wish you luck finding the group that's right for you.

    • @benjaminc924
      @benjaminc924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Imagine that becoming PART of the campaign! A major celestial figure perishing after being tossed from the heavens, that'd attract some attention. A race to get your hands on the powerful gear or celestial blood for rituals and whatnot, or a bunch of other different things.

  • @Ozymandias7066
    @Ozymandias7066 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    "Gygaxian motherfuckers"
    I'm going to use that

  • @unboundsoul3582
    @unboundsoul3582 6 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    In addition to more of the old guard, can we get some episodes on those key differences between modern players and those "Gygaxian motherfuckers"?

    • @kevinkorenke3569
      @kevinkorenke3569 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Eli Stauffenecker I am one of those Gygaxians. My favorite character was the most useful one in the party simply because he had a boat. Being the center of attention in a campaign is not as much fun as simply being a fun challenging character that his part of the world.
      I think that too many new players are cutting their teeth on pod casts from acquisitions incorporated and the like, giving them a false impression of what kind of characters work in a weekly game.

    • @lordmurderkitten6098
      @lordmurderkitten6098 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's the beard.
      I still have not been granted those luxurious chin locks but I know if I hone my craft and continue to roll the dice as my forefathers intended then ONE DAY mayhaps the Gods of the Blessed Icosagon will grant upon my jaw the mane of a TRUE Gygaxian.

  • @ChrissieBear
    @ChrissieBear 6 ปีที่แล้ว +465

    You *should* do this in a modern game. If you don't cut off an edgelord from session 1 they will ruin your game.

    • @littleratfella6857
      @littleratfella6857 5 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      He means doing it in an adult way and not just slamming your character against the earth.

    • @ganondorf5573
      @ganondorf5573 5 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      @@littleratfella6857 The DM didn't slam his character against the earth. He did it to himself and the DM was like... ok... you die then... idk why you did that.

    • @funnyblog100
      @funnyblog100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      When I do it it’s funny.
      Player: So if you’re from the shadowfell do you drink blood?
      My shadow sorcerer: I’m not a vampire.
      Another player: Are you undead?
      Shadow sorcerer: No just very pale looking. It’s a skin condition jerk!

    • @Da_Shark
      @Da_Shark 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hey an full edgey campaign is actually fun stop gate keeping and try a purposely over edge game practice your best (or worst depending on how much comedy you want) and have fun with it
      For example do a goth human who thinks he's waaaaaayyyyy more powerful than he actually is will he grow into his attitude by actually being that powerful? Will his edge dull and gain modesty and realistic ideas after being proven wrong? Or will you not change and play him like that eternally and laugh your ass off each session

    • @schippai3308
      @schippai3308 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@Da_Shark guy, it's not that it CAN'T be fun, and it's not that edgy characters are bad in general, it is that there is a time and place for them, just like everything else. Gimmicky characters can be fun, and they are when done well, with the right people.

  • @bf7592
    @bf7592 5 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    DM handled that like a boss. Killed your character how you described it so he didn't have to go after your character, was ready to go with a new character and no hard feelings, and eliminated the marysue character before you could get SO INVESTED in it.

  • @otakon17
    @otakon17 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    >Gygaxian Motherfuckers
    I love this phrase.

  • @MrBoltstrike
    @MrBoltstrike 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I can never remember the name of this video, but I am glad that I can find it by typing in "Gygaxian motherfuckers."

    • @octapusxft
      @octapusxft ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If D&D had not been defanged in the recent decade, I would say that this would need to be the name of a faction in the game

  • @roamkitsune2644
    @roamkitsune2644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Sounds a lot like when I joined my first campaign
    DM introducing me to the group: "you hear a rustling in the bushes..."
    My friend who brought me to the campaign in the first place: "I stabbed the bushes!"
    DM: "roll to hit."
    My friend: "20!"
    Me a squishy wizard in the bushes: "oh God why!"
    It is at this point that I rolled a second character

    • @eyoshinthemaximum
      @eyoshinthemaximum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thats an amazing friend right there, no joke

    • @vincejester7558
      @vincejester7558 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "O God, Why!" :)

    • @jonathanwells223
      @jonathanwells223 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your first mistake was attempting to sneak up on a professional murderer

    • @shishsjxnsnzns
      @shishsjxnsnzns หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@eyoshinthemaximum why?

  • @DavidTanisDreams
    @DavidTanisDreams 4 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    When are we getting that video on Tiberius?

  • @anthonypeterson8325
    @anthonypeterson8325 3 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    WHERE IS MY TIBERIUS EPISODE

    • @MaraWoodworks
      @MaraWoodworks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes, please! Tiberius episode!

    • @roibenblitz6863
      @roibenblitz6863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I second the notion!

    • @Thalanox
      @Thalanox 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@roibenblitz6863 I fourth the notion!

    • @RedJohnO22
      @RedJohnO22 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fifth and I subscribed as of this day

  • @crimson-foxtwitch2581
    @crimson-foxtwitch2581 6 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    “Transmutation is the key, my boys! Transmutation is the key!”
    Next Episode: (animated) Tiberius

  • @Rio..o7..
    @Rio..o7.. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Idk we could all use a little dose of "in this world you are not the main character."

  • @Tsuusetsu
    @Tsuusetsu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Waiting on the Tiberius episode. Would watch.

    • @mrsalmon3791
      @mrsalmon3791 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think he said in a stream that he didn't want to do it without the player's permission and since he hasn't seen him in years it's unlikely. It's a pity

  • @VisonsofFalseTruths
    @VisonsofFalseTruths 4 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    Gygaxian. What an adjective.

  • @DoomDutch
    @DoomDutch ปีที่แล้ว +77

    To this day, I still want to hear more about this group and Tiberius.

    • @vicentterraneo306
      @vicentterraneo306 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I was gonna say where is that Tiberius video

  • @BigDeetz
    @BigDeetz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    **Slaps roof of character**.
    This bad boy can fit so many belts on it.

  • @l.o.b.2433
    @l.o.b.2433 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Still patiently waiting for that Tiberius episode

    • @Giganfan2k1
      @Giganfan2k1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I want to be Tiberius evil twin. A sorcerer who is trying to turn gold into lead.

    • @Giganfan2k1
      @Giganfan2k1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      "Nuclear fission by good man. It all starts with fission!"

  • @ASquared544
    @ASquared544 4 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    This actually gives me an idea for a character. Hype up this really edgy cool character, have their hubris kill them immediately before they even get to say a word, & then introduce my actual character

    • @emilygordbort7300
      @emilygordbort7300 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      YES

    • @shaderax_storm6165
      @shaderax_storm6165 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I found out a weird Samurai fact a while ago about Nodachis and how the weapon was used in combat, part of the whole intrigue was how the guys drew a 4-5 foot sword without looking like a idiot! Turns out they didn't draw the sword, they threw the scabbard backwards OR had a dude pull it off off for them.
      I have always wanted to be that guy in a DND game, the pack mule support!
      Spend ages describing the lordly clothes and stuff, and be the guy that shines his shoes.
      That or the Bobby "the Brain" Heenan hype man, barded it up by telling everyone how kewl the main man is coz he drinks his milk, says his prayers and does his exercise

    • @danielmiller3596
      @danielmiller3596 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So, I had a young ‘I love gimmicks’ group, and they seemed to take over the asylum at one game’s beginning. I had them all make their most edgy and min- maxed characters and be as psychotic as possible.
      I just didn’t tell them it was a one shot, prequel. They basically ran straight into the maw of the goblin army, with no mechanics, no tactics, no teamwork. At the end, I told them to hand their character sheet to the person to their right, (skipping me). Kept the XP. These were the villagers that WATCHED all of them just ride past, straight into death. Each of them looked at the personality stuff and adjusted slightly into being able to play with others.

  • @stankdelicious6479
    @stankdelicious6479 6 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    “Gygaxian mutherfuckers!” 👏🤣👏🤣👏😂🤓

  • @nutwit1630
    @nutwit1630 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I would make these guys keep falling from the sky every now and then and write a little sidequest about figuring out what the fuck is going on with them

  • @crowsenpai5625
    @crowsenpai5625 6 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Could the next episode be all about Tiberius. You could spin it about the importance of role playing with your characters by reciting his creative antics.

  • @jackderricourt84
    @jackderricourt84 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    "Gygaxian motherfuckers" is my new favourite pronunciation of 'grognard'.

  • @AvatarofBragi
    @AvatarofBragi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Oh hell no. The game has changed, you're right, but your first DM did right, regardless of edition. Imagine an alternate scenario where your angsty edge-lord character keeps trying to be the mega-awesome center of attention, hogging all the glory from the rest of the PC's? Imagine when your infallible god misses in combat half the GD time because you're playing 2nd edition at best and a THAC0 of 20 against a goblin with AC 10 means you're still hitting only 50% of the time. Picture in your mind the mounting feelings of mutual frustration around that table as the more seasoned players slowly lose their patience with you.
    Your DM was a goddamn genius.

  • @HubiKoshi
    @HubiKoshi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Wow, that superhero landing really IS bad for the knees.

  • @ccggenius
    @ccggenius 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Man, I'd talk with the DM in advance so I could roll up my ACTUAL character in secret, but show up to the table with the cringiest, edge-lordiest thing I could come up with, just to do THIS, for the luls.

    • @oz_jones
      @oz_jones 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If I ever dm, I hope we get to play together, this is funny

  • @inigmianstudios2771
    @inigmianstudios2771 5 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    WHAT A FUCKING INTRODUCTION
    Honestly i relate to this so much. My first character was introduced as such- "A flaming red Tiefling emerges from a portal from the nine hells, with Devil arms grasping around him trying to pull him back"
    Okay make a Dex save
    Crit fail
    Your character gets pulled back into the portal as it closes. Roll another character

    • @nathankurtz8045
      @nathankurtz8045 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Demons? In the nine hells?

    • @inigmianstudios2771
      @inigmianstudios2771 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@nathankurtz8045 ah I almost for got. Thanks for correcting me

    • @godturkey4098
      @godturkey4098 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nathankurtz8045 The Blood War rages on.

  • @AJPickett
    @AJPickett 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Reminds me of a ninja character of mine who was killed by a shopkeeper because he asked if there were any ninja weapons for sale. The shopkeeper screamed "NINJA!" and stabbed him directly through the heart.

    • @HaloInverse
      @HaloInverse 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The first rule of Ninja Club is that you do _not_ talk about Ninja Club.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I was pretty salty about it for years, now, I can see the funny side.

    • @gnarlestongnu637
      @gnarlestongnu637 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You broke the first rule of being a ninja - you were seen.

  • @mobiust708
    @mobiust708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Nearly 4 years later, still have no other details on Tiberious.

  • @thartmann9284
    @thartmann9284 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    Just occurred to me that a stillborn aasimar/similar godlike creature plummeting from the heavens dead on arrival could be a sick plot hook. The Atropals are kinda that to an extreme.

  • @Boosttackle
    @Boosttackle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    That was a good reality check, wish my DM did that to my edgelord character

  • @thisiscoral
    @thisiscoral 3 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    for a kid, you were a pretty good sport about it.

    • @YasaiTsume
      @YasaiTsume 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Ehh I can see it.
      It depends on how you were raise more or less.
      Kids raised around older people or hanging around older people actually come to realise very quick that everything is in fact not about them.

    • @hak1111111
      @hak1111111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      or so we were told

  • @nyankers
    @nyankers 6 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    good wisdom is to never say no to another player.
    your DM didn't actually say no to you, in fact he gave you exactly what you wanted!

    • @giladpellaeon1691
      @giladpellaeon1691 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Gave plenty of rope and pointed out a tree with good strong branches. lol

    • @gnarlestongnu637
      @gnarlestongnu637 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You've clearly never had a player at the table who tried abusing the never-no convention. Now my players get a no when it's no, a yes if it's yes, if there's any debate there's a roll. At the end of the day, it's always best to be honest and play the game properly.

    • @lordmurderkitten6098
      @lordmurderkitten6098 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I respect your opinion but seriously sometimes "no" is the best way to go forward with players.
      I mean, yes I guess your players might accuse you of being a "tyrant" or enacting the dreaded "railroading", but as a player I'd rather like to know why I can't play a bard (my GM had a bad run in with a previous group and now hates 5e bards with a passion) than feeling shafted because a perfectly elf shaped rock landed on my fiddle playing figure without so much as a Dex save.
      In this case though props for the DM, like you said, for giving Zee EXACTLY what he wanted.

    • @nyankers
      @nyankers 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I could see the advice falling flat if only a single person decided to follow it, and that person happened to also be the GM.
      It's also not really about specific rules questions or whether something fits the game, setting, or group. In an ideal world, players will already magically know those yes or no questions without having to ask, but we don't live in one of those, so instead communication (like the bard thing) is key.
      It's more about being open to what other players want, and trying to fit their goals into the game, whether you're the GM or just another player.
      See, here's the thing. From a certain perspective, the GM is just another player, albeit playing many more roles than anyone else. This advice applies to them as well. If the GM has a scenario they want to run, and they set out the bait for your characters to go after it, providing they took the time to make sure they get the right bait, it'd be a bit rude to refuse, no?

    • @nyankers
      @nyankers 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Also, I forgot to add, but this is key. Never saying no is not quite the same as always saying yes. In that aforementioned ideal world, not only would you never say no, you'd also never say yes! Silly but true!
      Instead, it's more in the spirit of compromise, or finding conditions, complications, even introducing consequences.
      In this video, the consequence was 300+ damage, but it sounded fucking awesome, got the whole table laughing, and made for a great story, so... worth it!

  • @Aranesque
    @Aranesque 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Still waiting for that Tiberius episode! This is one of my favorite videos to rewatch from you! 😁

  • @merlintym1928
    @merlintym1928 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    We patiently await the Tiberius episode

    • @CrimsonKamina
      @CrimsonKamina ปีที่แล้ว

      Careful we might get a video on a different Tiberius instead

  • @Xavier_Breum_Deodorus
    @Xavier_Breum_Deodorus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Gigaxian Motherfuckers is a phrase I'm going to use from now onwards.

  • @vikingshark2634
    @vikingshark2634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I got my first box set in 1982 and I'm still in 'The Old Guard'. When I make my characters they aren't the main character; I don't choose exotic races or characters with backstories that monopolize playing time. I don't make edgelords or brooding loners (anymore). But my latest group is younger people/newer players and most of our party is some version of that character we've all had in the past that fulfills some kind of need to be unique, interesting or noticed, or make some statement with their characters about who the player is (or wants to be) as a real-life person.
    I've had to re-learn to appreciate the energy and enthusiasm that new and/or younger players bring to the table even if I have to suppress my Old-Guard-eyeroll every time the tiefling dramatically pushes back the hood of her cloak for the "Look at me, I'm a beautiful half-demon girl with purple eyes!" shock value. Let the kids have their 'falling out of the sky' moments, let them have the captivating stare moments, let them get some edgelordiness out of their systems. Some of these kids really need to not be shit on for a few hours every other weekend.
    Any social gathering like dnd is going to a least a little bit reflect zeitgeist and the values of the people in the group you're playing with. The world is not the same as in 1982 and neither is dnd; we (the Old Guard) are playing in a new playground now and we're not the gatekeepers.

    • @ellie8272
      @ellie8272 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Absolutely. I always find it silly when *dnd players* call other people lame or cringe, like they weren't made fun of for the same thing when they were younger.
      I think it's just a different style. People want to play characters that mean something to them. Gone are the days where the main characters of fantasies were nobodies from random villages.
      When I make a character, I want to feel attached. I'm gonna be spending hours with them, it's pretty important that I like them

    • @janschievink1586
      @janschievink1586 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Viking Shark Old Guard my ass your Formal Old Guard a storytelling clown for people like Ellie in the comments down here.
      Ellie Not only would you be crying you're entitled eyes out if you tried sitting down to an old school meat grinder game I doubt you'd even last with a middle of the road DM like me.
      You want to be the main character by all means, but you're not entitled to be Hercules you don't get handed the mantle of Achilles because "oowh my character special I say so" you could maybe be Guts from Berserk if you manage RP and combat encounters well enough to not get your head ripped off by the actual demigods of the world but you won't you won't earn it you don't have the patience for anything enjoy your instant gratification the hell away from my table.

    • @Kaotiqua
      @Kaotiqua 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ellie8272 Have you ever played a nobody from a random village? You might find there's value in it, especially in taking that humble nobody, and turning them into an epic hero. I'm old guard, but coming around to the new eras. At this point, I'm trying to get my players to find a balance between the weird and the humble. Because honestly, how "unique and special" is your half-angel half-demon really, in a world where everyone was born on another plane, has hooves and rainbow eyes, and wings, and purple hair?

    • @CrizzyEyes
      @CrizzyEyes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I never played those characters when I was new to RPGs because I was not confident enough to roleplay them (and I was conscious of the "cringiness" of emo stereotypes at a young age, having been a teenager through the peak of that trend). Instead my problem, for a little while at least, was making boring characters that were too normal.
      Now that I've grown and studied history and mythology a lot, not to mention played a lot of RPGs, I tend to roll my characters randomly, and then come up with the concept after the fact. It takes a lot of time out of the conceptualization phase of character creation and it keeps the roleplaying experience fresh and challenging. The last character I rolled, I got extremely lucky with a human noble. Now the whole campaign is about his ambitions for grabbing land, but the other characters do more to further than those ambitions than mine does.

    • @watchm4ker
      @watchm4ker ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@janschievink1586 There's something you're overlooking: You're not special, either. If you just want to run a crunchy dungeon crawler with interchangeable, assembly-line adventurers, you're competing against games that do it far more efficiently.
      That's why the game changed to a more narrative play style. Because people wanting the relentless, grinding, low-fantasy, numbers-go-up dungeon crawls could just play Dark Souls. And they do.

  • @JLPicard1648
    @JLPicard1648 5 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    Still waiting on that Tiberius episode

    • @JEL625
      @JEL625 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      yes yes transmutation is the key

    • @lightning_rocket9790
      @lightning_rocket9790 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know right

  • @mindbound
    @mindbound 5 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    I absolutely would advocate doing this in a modern game.

    • @ryanestes7331
      @ryanestes7331 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I hope to never be in this situation as a DM. I'll help them craft a backstory

    • @shishsjxnsnzns
      @shishsjxnsnzns หลายเดือนก่อน

      there are a million mature ways you could handle the situation, don't do this

  • @Reddotzebra
    @Reddotzebra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    The Gygaxxian school of RP: Where you roll a stack of character sheets, for when your previous character dies from fall damage, or starves to death, or freezes to death, or gets crushed to death by boulders, or walks into a goblin ambush, or walks into a kobold trap, or fails to roll high enough before touching a door, or ends up on the same plane of existence as rot grubs...

    • @nrais76
      @nrais76 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And then by the time you get to the bottom of the stack, you've learned the skills.

  • @KumoKumiko
    @KumoKumiko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    would still love to see a Tiberius episode lol
    "Transmutation is the Key!!"

  • @FatalKitsune
    @FatalKitsune 6 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    The best part is that you were cool with having your edgelord turned into meat pudding. I guarantee there are a number of stories that begin like that; some dude rolling up to a new game with his edgy character he thinks is hot shit, only to get demolished within moments. But where I bet MOST of those tales end with the edgemaster getting upset and storming off because he can't be Hot Topic Mary Sue, YOU were awesome and laughed it off and played along with it like a cool dude.

    • @gnarlestongnu637
      @gnarlestongnu637 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think the peer pressure of being a teenager surrounded by 30somethings, plus being a novice playing with seasoned veterans, probably contributed too.

  • @skydude7682
    @skydude7682 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    When they investigated the crater of the half angel half demon did they find the halfling looting the corpse?

  • @weaselwolf
    @weaselwolf 6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    "Gygaxian Motherfuckers" is now my favorite adjecive

  • @dualblade14
    @dualblade14 6 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    "I could probably do a whole episode on Tiberius" ... Do it. Do Tiberius justice.

  • @gobokinje9183
    @gobokinje9183 6 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    "I do the thing! All epic like!"
    *DM rolls dice*
    "No you don't."
    lmao
    Absolutely brilliant XD

    • @datdabdoe1417
      @datdabdoe1417 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He still did it all epic like, he was just a bit more liquid than he had predicted by the end

  • @dreadgrave3379
    @dreadgrave3379 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Too many D&D horror stories have taught me this might have been the best course of action, no matter the time, place or people.

  • @Brunhidden
    @Brunhidden 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    the 'gygaxian' mindset is so wild. you werent certainly werent beowulf, you werent even bilbo, you were someschmuck the pungent because if you die the world goes on and boy howdy was it time to get dying. if i recall standard procedure for gygaxian era was each player finds three hirelings to use the doors first and the ten foot pole was your mvp

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And you had at LEAST three other character sheets ready for the inevitable death(s).

  • @BobSmith-tm2kj
    @BobSmith-tm2kj 6 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    When you said "I could do a whole episode on him" I said "Please do" out loud XD

  • @Digi_Palm
    @Digi_Palm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    boy do i remember my first campaign. a glint of wonder in my eye as i was expecting perilous battles and glorious riches. we sold honey at a festival. that was the whole session. wasn’t the most glamorous session but it taught me a valuable lesson, the freedom you get in a ttrpg far surpasses that of a videogame

    • @braddotson3429
      @braddotson3429 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Oh dude. I ran AD&D's Temple Of Elemental Evil and had the same kind of thing happen.
      Most party members were elven or half elven, so I needed some excuse to get them out of Elf Land & into greyhawk territory.
      Decided there were some elven beekeepers who needed some guards while shipping their elven honey to greyhawk.
      That elven honey was more jealously guarded than any magic item I've ever seen before... strange, those players are.. but it was a hilarious session
      Edit: thinking back, it's probably because I had stressed to them how important henchmen were in old school, and I remember I'd told them that the elven honey was so damn good that it would give your henchmen a perfect morale score on any day they've eaten it

    • @TheEncouragementKid
      @TheEncouragementKid หลายเดือนก่อน

      big time

  • @thatpedanticcommenter5847
    @thatpedanticcommenter5847 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    That was just great. It's also great that though you were an edgelord teenager, you were still mature enough back then to laugh that off, or that could've gotten awkward FAST!

  • @austinzohner4220
    @austinzohner4220 6 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    So that Tiberius dude...Lets hear it.

  • @Ribula1
    @Ribula1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Where is the Tiberius video?

  • @MrMolotow97
    @MrMolotow97 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    My first character was a hardcore edgelord as well. Luckily we had a great GM who would poke fun at me by describing how awesome my character was at everything he did, then explaining to the rest of the group how awkward I looked to them.

  • @refinedbrass
    @refinedbrass 5 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    can you really do that episode on tiberius plz

    • @nogum9763
      @nogum9763 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      seems cool

  • @gnarlestongnu637
    @gnarlestongnu637 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I wonder if maybe these old Garys planned to kill you off first thing all along, to test you to make sure you weren't going to be a crybaby. Then you roll up with the most obnoxious character ever and DM is like, "...yes. This is what is meant to happen." Then you pass the test like a cool dude and everyone knows you're that cool assed dude who can get killed and still have a good time. I wouldn't ever do this, or recommend it, but its the grognardiest, gygaxiest thing I can think of.

  • @ethancampbell7773
    @ethancampbell7773 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Where's the Tiberius episode??
    That guy sounds awesome!

    • @crispinsday
      @crispinsday 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes please gib

  • @pizzapharmer
    @pizzapharmer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Really wish more DMs would do this, I've lost count of the times where I've been sitting at a table with a guy who thinks he's playing the chosen one with 4 supporting characters.

  • @dakedres
    @dakedres 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    With a character that edgy, I see no issue, even in modern D&D

    • @janehrahan5116
      @janehrahan5116 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Implying that edgelords are more acceptable In the more gritty, less mmo like, older editions. You might have it backwards kiddo :)

  • @ClubbingSealCub
    @ClubbingSealCub 6 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    You should do a whole episode on Tiberius, actually.

  • @buboniccraig896
    @buboniccraig896 5 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    please do a tyberious video

  • @mingchen7704
    @mingchen7704 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    i love it. 359 falling damage, and dies. that my friend is how you make an entrance.

  • @benkayvfalsifier3817
    @benkayvfalsifier3817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    We're still waiting for that episode on Tiberius. Take your time. We will be here...still waiting.

  • @KappaKiller108
    @KappaKiller108 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I have little patience for players who think "we are basically gods"
    Fall damage us such a mundane way to get hurt, it's really a great wake-up call. My other go-to is to have a runaway wagon hit somebody. Everyone acts more cautious in a dungeon when they were almost crippled by a food cart the morning before

  • @FireRevanShadow
    @FireRevanShadow 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    That was beautiful. Superhero landings are horrible on the knees.

  • @InsanoRider777
    @InsanoRider777 5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Y'know, the more I think about it, the DM didn't actually plan to kill Zee's character at all; he just followed the fall damage rules and... Zee fell from a great height. If Zee hadn't gone for the badass edgelord entrance, that character would've joined that group. So really, Zee would have had nobody to blame but himself for over 370 points of damage and instant, messy death.

    • @RDeathmark
      @RDeathmark 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm not so convinced on that, the fact that he had a pre-rolled character ready to go tells me that he probably was going to do something like this very early on at least

    • @InsanoRider777
      @InsanoRider777 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@RDeathmark I'm a DM and I have like ten prerolls ready to go at any point. It's not a sign that I'm planning an early end to an edgelord's life, just that I have extra characters ready and raring to go. It's just a thing a good DM has handy.

    • @datdabdoe1417
      @datdabdoe1417 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RDeathmark You realize the PHB actually supplies Pregen characters.

    • @Pantjay
      @Pantjay 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RDeathmark You misunderstand, this was Gygaxian D&D everyone there had a 50% chance of dying at all times. Just consuming 2 different kinds of potions too close together could literally make you explode. Shit was intense.

  • @Slyslug
    @Slyslug 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    STILL WAITING FOR THE VIDEO ABOUT THE GOLD GUY

    • @_The_Dumbass_
      @_The_Dumbass_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      TRANSMUTATION IS THE KEY BOYS, TRANSMUTATION IS THE KEY

  • @StuartofAutumn
    @StuartofAutumn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Would you kindly do an entire episode on Tiberius.

  • @angryyogbuscus1578
    @angryyogbuscus1578 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    "Covered in belts and filled with angst"
    That more or less confirms that we are about to see a Final Fantasy villain.

  • @trentglasgow7114
    @trentglasgow7114 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    TRANSMUTAION IS THE KEY MY BOYS, TRANSMUTAION IS THE KEY!

  • @malign3158
    @malign3158 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Still waiting on that Tiberius episode

  • @dragoknight589
    @dragoknight589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Alright, time for me to hop on the bandwagon of asking for a Tiberius video.

  • @shadowdagger2
    @shadowdagger2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Can you please do an entire episode on Tiberius?

  • @eb4305
    @eb4305 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    That mentality is still valuable, gotta keep it light-hearted. Good lesson for a youngster.

  • @GhoulSlayer_
    @GhoulSlayer_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    That...that got me! “They introduced into a world where I wasn’t the main character...with a bang.” 359 damage! But yeah, funny how we sometimes grow as individuals through funny ways, like some tabletop game.

  • @ZetruH
    @ZetruH 4 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    That's one way to shut down an edgelord, well played DM

  • @weezact7
    @weezact7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I had the pleasure of playing with someone like Tiberius. He was a half-orc paladin named Utak (please mentally add the umlaut over the u). His player was SO good at playing up both his strengths and weaknesses. Utak was a firm believer in justice and helping (most) other people, but he was also rather full of himself and more than a little overconfident in his own abilities and qualifications for being The Law. So, it was, on the surface, a VERY cliche Paladin character, but the guy brought it to life so well that it never felt that way, probably because he also never failed to roleplay Utak's shortcomings.
    Utak was NOT very bright and he knew that. He was "wise enough to know he's stupid", I believe is the way his player described him. So, he often deferred to others when it came to thinking. He was also VERY trusting of others because he knew he wasn't smart enough to really be able to tell when they were lying. So, he really had no choice but to go along with what others said, but he was always kind of hesitant about it because he wasn't smart enough to determine if they were manipulating him or not. He did make it clear that if anyone ever abused that trust, he'd beat the ever-living daylights out of them, though. I believe he mentioned he'd rather they just outright tell him to fuck off rather than lie to him and pretend to help. But he was very trusting of his companions. Therefore, he never questioned the other characters, even when he, the player, KNEW they were doing shit behind Utak's back that Utak would not approve of because they assured him they weren't. After they defeated (but didn't kill) a treacherous former party member (his player moved away), who we'll call Rogue1, Utak left the room and the rest of the party healed Rogue1 up so they could kill him again (they really didn't like him) and take his stuff. As far as Utak knows, Rogue1 is still alive out there somewhere and it became a running gag that one of the other characters would "accidentally" bring up how Rogue2 dealt the killing blow only for Utak to be like "What? What do you mean? Rogue1's still alive...RIGHT?" and then the rest of the party to change the topic.
    Finally, the last little cherry on top was how often Utak went on his rants about the things he hated. He had a list. 1. Evil Genies. 2. Evil wizards. 3 Poor people. (The genies and wizards may have been the other way around, idk). I'm not sure how poor people got on that list. I wasn't there for that, but I assume it was a joke that got carried away. Either way, Utak hated magic and everyone who cast it. He only ever used his spell slots for SMITE. The one time, near the end of the game, that he finally had to cast a heal spell (instead of Lay on Hands) caused him to have an identity crisis because he'd become the thing he hated.
    It was such a rare combination of both hilarious, consistent, and relevant. He advanced the plot, stayed in character, made his character believable and consistent (if a bit eccentric) and still made it hilarious. One of the, if not the single, best roleplayers I've ever had the pleasure of playing with.

  • @troxidex7933
    @troxidex7933 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    where Tiberius?

    • @GhostRat__
      @GhostRat__ ปีที่แล้ว

      I think we all know where Tiberius is *orc salute*

  • @davidedgar5923
    @davidedgar5923 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    This is still the most appropriate way to deal with edge lords.

  • @LairdDrake125
    @LairdDrake125 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Still waiting on that Tiberius episode

    • @master0fthearts894
      @master0fthearts894 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was going to comment this, but I see you have already.

  • @kahlorquiver1744
    @kahlorquiver1744 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Still waiting on that Tiberius video that man seems like a delight

    • @ad982347
      @ad982347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Only reason I'm subscribed

  • @TheOneMegaMaster
    @TheOneMegaMaster 6 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    “You take 359 damage from the fall and you die.”
    That part killed me.

    • @quaaludes9145
      @quaaludes9145 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Killed him too.

    • @tanith117
      @tanith117 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Also killed his Character.

    • @Verbose_Mode
      @Verbose_Mode 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I saw that coming from a mile away and I’m so glad I was right.

    • @nirobu
      @nirobu 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      only 4 away from Critical Role's 363 falling damage courtesy of Marisha "We're Gods" Ray

  • @federicopalacios7439
    @federicopalacios7439 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    The reason we don't do this anymore nowadays is because you're meant to talk to your DM before the game starts, you cant just arrive at the table with a character.

    • @copsuicide
      @copsuicide ปีที่แล้ว +1

      when i played back in high school it was kind of like that; people were barely cognizant of there even being different editions of D&D, so people would constantly bring characters that only made sense in their homebrew game into someone else's game and just start using all their magic equipment to kill NPCs and act like the protagonist, etc. a dark time indeed but fondly remembered.

  • @salt-emoji
    @salt-emoji 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Where is our video on Tiberius?

  • @waffletimesama145
    @waffletimesama145 6 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    OH MY GOD YOUR THE GUY THAT TOOK THE FALL DAMAGE! My ex's brother was the dm and he told me that story of how a person died at the very start, we still play dungeons and dragons but hell I never I'd see you on youtube ^-^ congrats and thabks to you I know most of the uses for spells and more

    • @zeebashew
      @zeebashew  6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Do you have any contact info for him?

    • @waffletimesama145
      @waffletimesama145 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@zeebashew yes

    • @waffletimesama145
      @waffletimesama145 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But we only talk on discord

    • @zeebashew
      @zeebashew  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@waffletimesama145 oh awesome! I'm Zee0001 on discord. If you wouldn't mind could you DM me his details?

    • @TKDragon75
      @TKDragon75 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had a player who jumped out of a 5 story window and nearly kill himself.