Worth mentioning if you weren't aware, the white dragonspawn is currently visible in Retail. They are sometimes one of the Holiday Celebrants that spawn in the Anniversary hub. I personally took a screenshot because I had never seen a mob that looked like it in my whole WoW career but sure enough, it's real!
What a fascinating video! I’ve been tossing around the idea of running a Vanilla/Warcraft III-era tabletop campaign lately, and this video is the perfect inspiration for the plot - something centering on that lost, white Dragonflight sounds really compelling. Thanks for posting, and thanks for the inspiration!
@@MikeyPaper Turtle wow as a game and what they've done with the client is fantastic. the community though is mind numbing... world is just full of morons all trying to outdo eachother on who can say the most stupid sht, its far worse than anything else, its pathetic
6:22 That exact style of horn is actually in the dragon isles in Ohn'aran Plains. I wonder if that is an ANCIENT datamining reference, akin to how they made sure to work in the old emerald dream statues into the newer iterations of the area.
The lore you covered is amazing! Having a voice-over and a high density text makes it difficult to assimilate either though, because even if we pause to read, we then have a disconnected narration to caught up to, would be nice if you could incorporate the text into the voice-over. I really love your channel and your content! Cheers!
The Lion's Rest song at the end somehow fits perfectly for the story of the white dragonflight. A long lost dragonflight that may have existed without our character's knowledge and will never be seen.
Indeed! However the original Green Dragonspawn never made it into the game, it was replaced by another variant before the game released. Sorry for not being too clear on this
Grat video, I love it. A couple of clarifications, tho: - In the Dragon Isles from Dragonflight, white dragons do exist, can be seen around and can also be obtained as a customization for players' mounts. - Proto Whelps from Dragonflight can certainly be white and are multiple instances of them. - As @LordProteus also pointed out, a white dragonspawn (with the classic model) can be sometimes seen in the 20th anniversary grounds in Tanaris. I think they are considered just albinos and not a separate Flight. My personal opinion is that this skin was reserved for notable individuals to stand out (a reskin is cheaper than a new model, specially in vanilla times) or simply as a way to reflect that they were old.
I have an idea that the infinites were supposed to be the corrupted white dragonflight. Why do I think this? They look like inverted colors. Like a negative of a photo. If you reinvert them you get a white dragon with some bright orange flesh.
@@DarthCuddlefluff No, if you go into photoshop and invert the colors of a vanilla bronze dragon you get the colors of the infinite flight. They probably added black to make it more interesting. Given infinites were released in BC and have always had time powers, there's no way they intended two dragonflights to be guardians of time. Especially given they only existed in the caverns of time dungeon.
I never knew all that stuff from classic regarding dragonscale leatherworking, I only ever used the onyxia scale cloak to get that treasure in DF, and even then I resorted to buying one!
I really much prefer the unfinished Dragon Isles and Emerald Dream over what we got. The prototype look gives it that eerie and mysterious feeling that suits magical places that were never meant to be visited by most people. Instead, Dragon Isles was a rehash of old zones, albeit a good rehash, but nothing stood out like that giant octopus temple in the early prototype. Same with Emerald Dream, it was basically Val'Shara 2.0 instead of a weird, uncanny dream realm.
The albino drake was their placeholder for protodrake before Wrath release. It was recycled to a mount reward to kick up the hype about achievements, It's entirely possible the white models are just stock textures made in case of future developments. I'm not sure it's "missing" but rather "never used". The original story for the dragonflights always listed the 5 dragon flights from Day of the Dragon, so if there would have been a white dragon flight, it would have been an offshoot, a mutant flight, or something like that. Maybe the chromatics were white at some points ? It also never was explained where the gold dragon thing was from... The product of the Dragon Soul when used by Thrall and the aspects in Cataclysm. Draenor was proof that they may change direction a lot while designing the story, so I wouldn't be surprised all those colors are just leftovers of cut out or reskinned storylines.
@@rainerfrickanisce2485 "The Eon Rose is a magical flower. It has five petals of different hues; fiery red, emerald green, snowy silver, deep-sea blue and midnight black; surrounding a golden sphere in the center. " "Gold" would be the Bronze flight, but what would white be?
@@DIEGhostfish it would be neat if we had a silver flight that somehow connected to the twisting nether, but with their unwillingness to expand on that i assume that it was cut.. i have a whole crackpot theory on how death was supposed to work in warcraft, as the shadowlands werent mentioned ever until right before the release. even up until bfa, people would be threatening to kill you with "i'll send you to the twisting nether!" and even illidan comments on it in the dh starting zone. perhaps they would have a connection to the spirits of azeroth.. wouldnt that have been cool?
@@lychenthrope The shadowlands were mentioned a long time ago, as early as Wotlk when DKs step into the shadowlands to get their horse in the starter zone, and even earlier in Zul'Farak where it mentions Mueh'zala in the shadowlands. The Twisting Nether has canonically been the place where demons go when they die for a long time, which would apply to Demon Hunters as well which is probably what Illidan was mentioning. That said, the Twisting Nether might have also been used as a generic afterlife in old lore, back before Blizzard thought this stuff through, but I can't recall. The dragonflight that most closely connects to the spirits of Azeroth would be the Green Dragonflight via the Emerald Dream.
How does this tie in with the white/silver slytherdrakes found by Wrathion and Sabellian in the quest line that leads up to us getting the Winding Slyther Drake mount? I've also found it very odd that when you are standing on the ground floor of the Seat of the Aspects, there are 6 doors(?) on the sides. On one side there are doors for the black, blue and green flights, on the opposite sides for the red and bronze flights. In between those two are two white banners, with the colours of all 5 flights. I kind of sort of hoped that all the efforts of the players/dragons would lead to an amalgamation of all the flights, resulting in a white (or silver, with all the Tyr stuff) dragon type, that was uncorrupted and untainted by past events and spearheading the future for all dragonkind. I didn't mind getting the white options for my existing dragons, but somehow it felt like there was meant to be more.
The slitherdrakes were experiments from Deathwing, not dragons. They were some kind of wind serpent before he altered them. As well as in flavor text for items like the white scales and I think the albino drake, Alexstrasza is quoted to say "How different would things be if the titans chose to elevate one more dragonflight." Prior to the aspects and the designated flights, dragons came in all colors of the rainbow. They did however shoot themselves in the foot with the Aspects, as there was the potential for 6 aspects--7 considering Eonar blessed both Ysera and Alexstasza-- but I think there was no rational role to give them, such as Life, Magic, Earth etc.
copied from another reply of mine, but it would be neat if we had a silver flight that somehow connected to the twisting nether, but with their unwillingness to expand on that i assume that it was cut.. i have a whole crackpot theory on how death was supposed to work in warcraft, as the shadowlands werent mentioned ever until right before the release. even up until bfa, people would be threatening to kill you with "i'll send you to the twisting nether!" and even illidan comments on it in the dh starting zone. perhaps they would have a connection to the spirits of azeroth, helping them either to the twisting nether to be reincarnated or working with the spriit healers to aid those with eternal souls to resurrect.
Dude, you superimpose text and images and then remove them way too fast. Especially when you flash multiple things on the same screen. And I know some wise guy going to say, just pause the video, not all of us can. I watch on mobile using voice controls. There is no pause option, and even if there was an option by the Time the command would activate the image would be gone anyway. Besides, that would be a good reason to lengthen your video and get more ad revenue
They are on screen long enough to read. Maybe you need some practice. At least be a bit more polite to someone who is making a video for your entertainment
@Ben79k I said nothing rude unlike you. I guarantee I read much more than you do. It seems like you're unable to figure out why that is, but maybe if you try really really hard you just might be able to come up with the solution. Regardless, other viewers have commented the same. If anything it sounds like you need more practice interacting with other human beings
we also have the albino dragon mount - it always made me think that there was a silver dragonflight that was out there somewhere - the fact that there's a dragonspawn out there with no other flight.. hmm. "white" dragonflight doesnt sound as fantastical to me, so ive always called it "silver" lol. perhaps they were originally going to be the arcane dragons but that got moved to blue with their cut?
Well.... tbh fair they might have had someideas of that during war3 devs times during which wow was developed at the same time were novel day of the dragons came out and made it that there was 5 dragonflights instead of one were before that alexstrasza ruled overall dragonflight and deathwing was just her strongest child driven into insanity by orcs cruelty during second war. ysera, nozdormu and malygos weren't even a thing before day of the dragons and war3 during boths dev and writting WoW was made. so calling it a missing is a strech rather than cut idea dragonflight. chromatic was experiments infusing all 5 and infinite was corrupted version of bronze dragonflight added to that technically there is a nightmare dragonflight which is corrupted green dragons, twilight dragons fusions and experiments of sinesthra and void dragons from BfA.
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there's definitely a missing white dragonflight- WHITE whelps exist in the files too
Yeah, thats right! Added to the gamefiles in Dragonflight - only to be left out, just like the dragonspawn
Well we got a new aspect that is ice base. So keep hope alive.
Worth mentioning if you weren't aware, the white dragonspawn is currently visible in Retail. They are sometimes one of the Holiday Celebrants that spawn in the Anniversary hub. I personally took a screenshot because I had never seen a mob that looked like it in my whole WoW career but sure enough, it's real!
retail isn't actually canon they keep adding weird fanfic characters like the lothar girl
@@grom4818 WoW isnt cannon, warcraft ended with Warcraft 3: Frozen throne
@@09jorgewords09 Real Warcraft ended in Warcraft 2 tho.
@@grom4818 how many times you've deleted and rewrote "black" before finally writing "lothar"? lol
@@sidionysos oh that reminds me what they did to blood elves, what a rainbow poop parade
I like how that White Dragonspawn has a chance to appear at the 20th anniversary event.
wheeereee?
What a fascinating video! I’ve been tossing around the idea of running a Vanilla/Warcraft III-era tabletop campaign lately, and this video is the perfect inspiration for the plot - something centering on that lost, white Dragonflight sounds really compelling. Thanks for posting, and thanks for the inspiration!
Happy you like it, good luck!
Tbh I never realised there were any mentions of white dragons, I only knew of the albino drake, but ye, albino.
pass this down to the guys at turtle wow, they'll know what to do
Turtle wow is good. Turtle wow is life.
@@MikeyPaper Turtle wow as a game and what they've done with the client is fantastic. the community though is mind numbing... world is just full of morons all trying to outdo eachother on who can say the most stupid sht, its far worse than anything else, its pathetic
I came here to hear about white dragon, only to get 1/2 the video talking about onxyia's scales crafting
On a scale of 1 to 10 I liked it
6:22 That exact style of horn is actually in the dragon isles in Ohn'aran Plains. I wonder if that is an ANCIENT datamining reference, akin to how they made sure to work in the old emerald dream statues into the newer iterations of the area.
It's in a few centaur areas in kalimdpr iirc
@@DIEGhostfish yeah, one is definitely around the entrance to Maraudon
The lore you covered is amazing! Having a voice-over and a high density text makes it difficult to assimilate either though, because even if we pause to read, we then have a disconnected narration to caught up to, would be nice if you could incorporate the text into the voice-over. I really love your channel and your content! Cheers!
Glad you enjoyed it! I will keep this in the mind for the future, thanks for letting me know :)
The Lion's Rest song at the end somehow fits perfectly for the story of the white dragonflight. A long lost dragonflight that may have existed without our character's knowledge and will never be seen.
This was a very well done review, with plenty of information provided, in an organized fashion.
You did a good job.
Green Dragonspawns did make it into the game, there's plenty in the Swamp of Sorrows.
I'm pretty sure there are Blue Dragonspawn in Mazthoril, the large cave in Winterspring, as well
Indeed! However the original Green Dragonspawn never made it into the game, it was replaced by another variant before the game released. Sorry for not being too clear on this
@@jamsie1994 azure
Grat video, I love it. A couple of clarifications, tho:
- In the Dragon Isles from Dragonflight, white dragons do exist, can be seen around and can also be obtained as a customization for players' mounts.
- Proto Whelps from Dragonflight can certainly be white and are multiple instances of them.
- As @LordProteus also pointed out, a white dragonspawn (with the classic model) can be sometimes seen in the 20th anniversary grounds in Tanaris.
I think they are considered just albinos and not a separate Flight. My personal opinion is that this skin was reserved for notable individuals to stand out (a reskin is cheaper than a new model, specially in vanilla times) or simply as a way to reflect that they were old.
I have made a fortune 20 years ago farming black dragonscale, and a smaller fortune with blue dragonscale :)
I love your vids, I'm not sure why but it fascinates me to learn about this kind of details concerning early wow development. Thanks for your upload
If only DF allowed us to have the dragonkin as a playalbe allied race.
I have an idea that the infinites were supposed to be the corrupted white dragonflight. Why do I think this? They look like inverted colors. Like a negative of a photo. If you reinvert them you get a white dragon with some bright orange flesh.
they're the opposite of the bronze flight . orange hues inverted are blue. white inverted is black. so they black,blue and white
@@plumtucker9514 Right but if they were inverted bronze they would look different.
@@DarthCuddlefluff No, if you go into photoshop and invert the colors of a vanilla bronze dragon you get the colors of the infinite flight. They probably added black to make it more interesting. Given infinites were released in BC and have always had time powers, there's no way they intended two dragonflights to be guardians of time. Especially given they only existed in the caverns of time dungeon.
@@Just_Java_Kitty I don't think that they did intend for two dragonflights to be the guardians of time. idk where you are getting that.
They did end up using the dragon isles structure model underwater when Vashjir came out, however it was scaled down a lot.
I never knew all that stuff from classic regarding dragonscale leatherworking, I only ever used the onyxia scale cloak to get that treasure in DF, and even then I resorted to buying one!
man your videos are so good,keep them coming!!!
I really much prefer the unfinished Dragon Isles and Emerald Dream over what we got. The prototype look gives it that eerie and mysterious feeling that suits magical places that were never meant to be visited by most people. Instead, Dragon Isles was a rehash of old zones, albeit a good rehash, but nothing stood out like that giant octopus temple in the early prototype. Same with Emerald Dream, it was basically Val'Shara 2.0 instead of a weird, uncanny dream realm.
Good content but you gotta give us more time to read stuff you add on, or speak on it
Pause?
Im literally under 2 seconds in to this video and can tell this dude is danish
edit: further in to the video now, he is VERY danish
Great video, but you need to leave the text up longer!
The albino drake was their placeholder for protodrake before Wrath release. It was recycled to a mount reward to kick up the hype about achievements,
It's entirely possible the white models are just stock textures made in case of future developments. I'm not sure it's "missing" but rather "never used".
The original story for the dragonflights always listed the 5 dragon flights from Day of the Dragon, so if there would have been a white dragon flight, it would have been an offshoot, a mutant flight, or something like that.
Maybe the chromatics were white at some points ?
It also never was explained where the gold dragon thing was from... The product of the Dragon Soul when used by Thrall and the aspects in Cataclysm. Draenor was proof that they may change direction a lot while designing the story, so I wouldn't be surprised all those colors are just leftovers of cut out or reskinned storylines.
There was a final color on the flower from Day of thr Dragon wasn't there?
@@DIEGhostfish Oh? Can you find the quote? I'm curious now too.
@@rainerfrickanisce2485 "The Eon Rose is a magical flower. It has five petals of different hues; fiery red, emerald green, snowy silver, deep-sea blue and midnight black; surrounding a golden sphere in the center. "
"Gold" would be the Bronze flight, but what would white be?
@@DIEGhostfish it would be neat if we had a silver flight that somehow connected to the twisting nether, but with their unwillingness to expand on that i assume that it was cut.. i have a whole crackpot theory on how death was supposed to work in warcraft, as the shadowlands werent mentioned ever until right before the release. even up until bfa, people would be threatening to kill you with "i'll send you to the twisting nether!" and even illidan comments on it in the dh starting zone. perhaps they would have a connection to the spirits of azeroth.. wouldnt that have been cool?
@@lychenthrope The shadowlands were mentioned a long time ago, as early as Wotlk when DKs step into the shadowlands to get their horse in the starter zone, and even earlier in Zul'Farak where it mentions Mueh'zala in the shadowlands. The Twisting Nether has canonically been the place where demons go when they die for a long time, which would apply to Demon Hunters as well which is probably what Illidan was mentioning. That said, the Twisting Nether might have also been used as a generic afterlife in old lore, back before Blizzard thought this stuff through, but I can't recall. The dragonflight that most closely connects to the spirits of Azeroth would be the Green Dragonflight via the Emerald Dream.
How does this tie in with the white/silver slytherdrakes found by Wrathion and Sabellian in the quest line that leads up to us getting the Winding Slyther Drake mount?
I've also found it very odd that when you are standing on the ground floor of the Seat of the Aspects, there are 6 doors(?) on the sides. On one side there are doors for the black, blue and green flights, on the opposite sides for the red and bronze flights. In between those two are two white banners, with the colours of all 5 flights. I kind of sort of hoped that all the efforts of the players/dragons would lead to an amalgamation of all the flights, resulting in a white (or silver, with all the Tyr stuff) dragon type, that was uncorrupted and untainted by past events and spearheading the future for all dragonkind. I didn't mind getting the white options for my existing dragons, but somehow it felt like there was meant to be more.
The slitherdrakes were experiments from Deathwing, not dragons. They were some kind of wind serpent before he altered them. As well as in flavor text for items like the white scales and I think the albino drake, Alexstrasza is quoted to say "How different would things be if the titans chose to elevate one more dragonflight." Prior to the aspects and the designated flights, dragons came in all colors of the rainbow. They did however shoot themselves in the foot with the Aspects, as there was the potential for 6 aspects--7 considering Eonar blessed both Ysera and Alexstasza-- but I think there was no rational role to give them, such as Life, Magic, Earth etc.
copied from another reply of mine, but it would be neat if we had a silver flight that somehow connected to the twisting nether, but with their unwillingness to expand on that i assume that it was cut.. i have a whole crackpot theory on how death was supposed to work in warcraft, as the shadowlands werent mentioned ever until right before the release. even up until bfa, people would be threatening to kill you with "i'll send you to the twisting nether!" and even illidan comments on it in the dh starting zone. perhaps they would have a connection to the spirits of azeroth, helping them either to the twisting nether to be reincarnated or working with the spriit healers to aid those with eternal souls to resurrect.
Hear me out what if the white dragon flight is on the other side off azeroth and they have to do with the empire
Great vid!
Dude, you superimpose text and images and then remove them way too fast. Especially when you flash multiple things on the same screen. And I know some wise guy going to say, just pause the video, not all of us can. I watch on mobile using voice controls. There is no pause option, and even if there was an option by the Time the command would activate the image would be gone anyway. Besides, that would be a good reason to lengthen your video and get more ad revenue
They are on screen long enough to read. Maybe you need some practice. At least be a bit more polite to someone who is making a video for your entertainment
@Ben79k I said nothing rude unlike you. I guarantee I read much more than you do. It seems like you're unable to figure out why that is, but maybe if you try really really hard you just might be able to come up with the solution. Regardless, other viewers have commented the same. If anything it sounds like you need more practice interacting with other human beings
we also have the albino dragon mount - it always made me think that there was a silver dragonflight that was out there somewhere - the fact that there's a dragonspawn out there with no other flight.. hmm. "white" dragonflight doesnt sound as fantastical to me, so ive always called it "silver" lol. perhaps they were originally going to be the arcane dragons but that got moved to blue with their cut?
Still wanting for my flight to return. White dragons. Dracthyr here
And dracthyr were part of the game long ago they were not just thought up by the recent devs..
They were called greater whelps.
yaay a new video
Welcome back!
Well, if I would design such a game/world I would make these white dragons ice dragons with a mix of light blue and white.
Well.... tbh fair they might have had someideas of that during war3 devs times during which wow was developed at the same time were novel day of the dragons came out and made it that there was 5 dragonflights instead of one were before that alexstrasza ruled overall dragonflight and deathwing was just her strongest child driven into insanity by orcs cruelty during second war. ysera, nozdormu and malygos weren't even a thing before day of the dragons and war3 during boths dev and writting WoW was made.
so calling it a missing is a strech rather than cut idea dragonflight.
chromatic was experiments infusing all 5 and infinite was corrupted version of bronze dragonflight added to that technically there is a nightmare dragonflight which is corrupted green dragons, twilight dragons fusions and experiments of sinesthra and void dragons from BfA.
Did the video get accidentally uploaded at 2x speed?
I think we were supposed to fight Neltharion in Hyjal
finally a new vid
Good vid ❤
7 minutes vid on the missing dragon flight. 5 minutes in. No missing dragon flight.
didnt know about the onyxia breastplate
I love this stuff
Funny how we both got the Dragon Isles AND a 6th Dragonflight now that is mostly whiteish...
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oh nick shun. never heard it pronounced that way It doesnt even have an n at the end lmao
Oh-nix-e-uh
Your slides are so fast and full of so much text it's hard to read
First comment! 🎉
Blizz: let's name the dragons after colors!
Also Blizz: instead of Yellow let's say 'bronze' 🤡
Måske snakke lidt langsommere 😁