this is one of my all time favorite matches. Jeremy accepts team member role at the last minute, comes in and plays with utter grit and determination, coming with hero shots and anchoring run-outs. In my opinion the time foul controversy adds yet another layer of intrigue cementing this match as a true classic imo...Although I was upset to see JJ lose because of it.
Great match but shame it ended that way... Jeremy Jones played a blinder and deserved the win which he no doubt would of got without his clock error... Even the Europeans felt bad for the big fella!
I guess rules are rules but I think ref courtesy could had been “friendly reminder, clock doesn’t stop and no extension, are u sure want to proceed? Tik tok”
With that thin cut on the six he wanted to slow roll it and if there was a bad contact he would have missed the shot so cleaning the cb makes sense. He actually looks at the clock right before he asked. He must have forgot he used his extension. Brutal way to lose.
JJ was so strong to step up due to Earl Strickland contracting covid, sad to see the clock foul after the stellar all time best back and fourth safety battle in the last game that I have ever seen in Mosconi play. It still burns me as I'm sure as it does JJ. Must Watch this match again and again. Bravo
When he asked for it to be cleaned the ref should have told him. He couldn’t clean it in time. It’s just common sense. Having said that…….he should have known.
The ref followed the rules. Marcel wasn't allowed to refuse or state the clock wasn't going to stop. He cleaned it in record time which should of been an indication lol.. but it was too late anyway at the point. Whether one likes it is up to them. But there rules are rules.
Im excited to the fedor gorst playing on the american team this year coming. The european crowd is gonna think of him as a traitor because he is russian born but he is an american citizen now. Team us needs a monster player like gorst. Svb, woodward, thorpe, gorst, four powerhouses.
hah.. yeah.. if only he hadnt already been representing team Europe it wouldnt even come up.. since Russia isnt Europe .. somehow mosconi cup is effectively treated like usa against the world (minus asia) .. not fully fair for usa.. so in this case when something like this favors usa.. its good.. it evens the playing field.. my fingers are crossed for europe to win .. but my rational guesstimate tells me it will go to usa this year.. ultimately I hope we will all be entertained and watch some good pool .. and we all win!
The "audience participation" element of this is absolutely embarrassing. I grew up watching snooker, and this push for pool to move in the direction of darts just feels cringe worthy. At least we've moved on from Syd Wadel though.
JJ asked the ref to clean the CB. It was down to 10 seconds just as ref started to clean, so he said "10 seconds". The timer doesn't stop for CB cleaning if the request is from the player.
I blame the referee. The referee is european. A good ref would have said the clock doesnt stop and there was no beeping like normal when the clock is running down. Why would it not beep? Just seems like bullshit to me.
U can't call for cleaning that cue ball on 10 second left remaining without extension. Many lucky chance he did but in the end he throw that all. That is why u need young people in the tournament
Good referee would have said the clock doesnt stop. Period, or asked if he wanted an extension. That referee is trash, i have seen him make alot of mistakes.
it's ridiculous for him to not only not know that from being a player and captain, even conceptually, players would want the ball cleaned every shot so they could get more time. It'd be very abusable.
@@Cupoforangejuice15i just wonder why the ref didn't say anything. A simple ( the clock doesn't stop) why didn't his team say something. Even alcaide looked shocked, almost as if alcaide didn't know the clock doesn't stop either.
@@andrewverrett568 the referee isn't supposed to interfere like that in any capacity. The ref needs to be completely unbiased. Also there's a strong chance alcaide knows the proper rule, most pro players SHOULD know the clock doesn't stop cause it never has
I'm an American pool player. Jones effed up. 100% his fault. He even still had 3 whole seconds to call an extension after he realized the clock was still going. He got paid to throw the match. No one is that dumb
@@lukeriley1892 oh shoot you're right. That last game was so long that I forgot he had taken one! He def shouldn't have called for the ball to be cleaned. It was a fairly simple runout anyways
Didn’t know Jeremy was that damn good unlucky I’d only assume the clock would stop as well kinda bs nice to see Europe showing respects to emafterwards too
if the clock stopped every time you wanted the ball to clean, they would want the ball cleaned every single shot so they'd get extra time. Also JJ is a captain and a player, he should know how shot clocks work.
@@andrewverrett568 we cant pin this on the ref.. he did everything perfect.. it is not up to the ref to handle time management for the players.. and how could he.. some players are faster than others.. there was 6 seconds to shoot after the very fast ball cleaning.. if it was up to the ref to call this it would only muddy the game with less freedom for the players to excel or err.. and potential questionable decisions.. what if the ref refused to clean it and there was a skid on the following shot.
this is one of my all time favorite matches. Jeremy accepts team member role at the last minute, comes in and plays with utter grit and determination, coming with hero shots and anchoring run-outs. In my opinion the time foul controversy adds yet another layer of intrigue cementing this match as a true classic imo...Although I was upset to see JJ lose because of it.
Great match but shame it ended that way... Jeremy Jones played a blinder and deserved the win which he no doubt would of got without his clock error...
Even the Europeans felt bad for the big fella!
@27:30 What a nice out from Jeremy, great to watch, awesome commentary from Kelly as well
*playing shape for the carom is really instructive
hay
Jeromy the shot from the 2 to the 3 was awesome my man
What an amazing result! I also used to think the clock will stop during the cleaning time as well. Unlucky for USA.
Who is know the name off the song as started in 9:40
Gala - freed from desire
I guess rules are rules but I think ref courtesy could had been “friendly reminder, clock doesn’t stop and no extension, are u sure want to proceed? Tik tok”
Jeremy is already won the game.
This crowd is absolutely insuferable. Marcel is an absolute English fruitcake for letting that mess go on.
Hopefully, this year they added a requirement that the refs refuse to clean if there is not enough time or no extension.
With that thin cut on the six he wanted to slow roll it and if there was a bad contact he would have missed the shot so cleaning the cb makes sense. He actually looks at the clock right before he asked. He must have forgot he used his extension. Brutal way to lose.
The infamous time clock violation
Shit way to lose. But jj is a beast. His knowledge and kick game are on point like a v neck. Thats the nature of the beast.
JJ was so strong to step up due to Earl Strickland contracting covid, sad to see the clock foul after the stellar all time best back and fourth safety battle in the last game that I have ever seen in Mosconi play. It still burns me as I'm sure as it does JJ. Must Watch this match again and again. Bravo
Good luck USA 🇺🇸🇺🇲🎱
USA you got this 🎱🇺🇲🇺🇸🇺🇲🎱🇺🇲🇺🇸
We can take the whole thing 🇺🇸🇺🇲🎱🇺🇸🇺🇲🎱
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When he asked for it to be cleaned the ref should have told him. He couldn’t clean it in time. It’s just common sense. Having said that…….he should have known.
The ref followed the rules. Marcel wasn't allowed to refuse or state the clock wasn't going to stop. He cleaned it in record time which should of been an indication lol.. but it was too late anyway at the point. Whether one likes it is up to them. But there rules are rules.
@@edwardborgiasthe ref is allowed to say the clock won't stop.
Why are all these videos a year old
Cos this is last year's Mosconi Cup
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He should have just taken the shot…he was “doing the most” for asking the ball to be cleaned anyway.
Realy live?
Nah
look at the title
Let's go USA 🎱🇺🇲🇺🇸
Im excited to the fedor gorst playing on the american team this year coming. The european crowd is gonna think of him as a traitor because he is russian born but he is an american citizen now. Team us needs a monster player like gorst. Svb, woodward, thorpe, gorst, four powerhouses.
hah.. yeah.. if only he hadnt already been representing team Europe it wouldnt even come up.. since Russia isnt Europe .. somehow mosconi cup is effectively treated like usa against the world (minus asia) .. not fully fair for usa.. so in this case when something like this favors usa.. its good.. it evens the playing field.. my fingers are crossed for europe to win .. but my rational guesstimate tells me it will go to usa this year.. ultimately I hope we will all be entertained and watch some good pool .. and we all win!
The "audience participation" element of this is absolutely embarrassing. I grew up watching snooker, and this push for pool to move in the direction of darts just feels cringe worthy. At least we've moved on from Syd Wadel though.
jj plays so much better than svb. he is just a little rusty. unlucky to lose due to carelessness
Svb is the world champion. What are you talking about😂
Didn’t Ask To Clean The Ball The Whole Game But Wanna Ask Now Is 🙅🏽♂️Beyond Me 🤦🏽♂️🤣😆😅🥱
Jeremy😢
Youre best jeremy ❤
Didn't he said "extenstion" ? Or i'm the only one hearing it ? Exactly when the referee started to clean the cue ball
@@bhdrbjk96 hmm could be
He didnt have an extension available, already used it earlier on
@@jonesijones but the ref pointed another history?
JJ asked the ref to clean the CB. It was down to 10 seconds just as ref started to clean, so he said "10 seconds". The timer doesn't stop for CB cleaning if the request is from the player.
@@bhdrbjk96 don't comment again for as long as you live. That was the dumbest answer I've ever heard and now my life is ruined and I'm giving up pool.
I blame the referee. The referee is european. A good ref would have said the clock doesnt stop and there was no beeping like normal when the clock is running down. Why would it not beep? Just seems like bullshit to me.
What? Is this a replay?
Duh title says 2021
i also thought this, Jeremy did the same thing before. Clock doesn't stop.
Chanting whole time he’s down on the 9. 🥴🥴🥴
U can't call for cleaning that cue ball on 10 second left remaining without extension. Many lucky chance he did but in the end he throw that all. That is why u need young people in the tournament
Captain should know the rules.
Good referee would have said the clock doesnt stop. Period, or asked if he wanted an extension. That referee is trash, i have seen him make alot of mistakes.
Exciting game .
to be honest, as a captain and player, he should've known that the clock doesn't stop
And old head trying to be smart a$$
it's ridiculous for him to not only not know that from being a player and captain, even conceptually, players would want the ball cleaned every shot so they could get more time. It'd be very abusable.
@@Cupoforangejuice15i just wonder why the ref didn't say anything. A simple ( the clock doesn't stop) why didn't his team say something. Even alcaide looked shocked, almost as if alcaide didn't know the clock doesn't stop either.
@@andrewverrett568 the referee isn't supposed to interfere like that in any capacity. The ref needs to be completely unbiased. Also there's a strong chance alcaide knows the proper rule, most pro players SHOULD know the clock doesn't stop cause it never has
Lost all bcz he didn't know ball-cleaning doesn't kill the clock. :/
so unlucky for JJ to lose, can't wait for 2023 Mosconi
I think on Hill Hill games they should lag again for break.
Kicking Strickland out for being a 'covid' case in November 2022 is a sick joke
Congratulations to Jeremy Jones, being named Team Europe's MVP of the match for 2021! 🤦♂️😔💯👍
I could do without all the hyenas braying from the peanut gallery. They sound like a bunch of drunken hooligans at a soccer game.
Took a dive!
Why do the Brit’s act like it’s a dam soccer game or something? It’s annoying..
That was injustice, no way
I'm an American pool player. Jones effed up. 100% his fault. He even still had 3 whole seconds to call an extension after he realized the clock was still going. He got paid to throw the match. No one is that dumb
Rules are rules you have to follow them. This is a greenhorn mistake.
@@jeffreysmith7473 Jones couldn't call for an extension because he'd already used it
@@lukeriley1892 oh shoot you're right. That last game was so long that I forgot he had taken one! He def shouldn't have called for the ball to be cleaned. It was a fairly simple runout anyways
Didn’t know Jeremy was that damn good unlucky I’d only assume the clock would stop as well kinda bs nice to see Europe showing respects to emafterwards too
if the clock stopped every time you wanted the ball to clean, they would want the ball cleaned every single shot so they'd get extra time. Also JJ is a captain and a player, he should know how shot clocks work.
@@Cupoforangejuice15the ref should have told him he couldn't clean the ball in time for the clock then he'd have asked for extension. Referees fault
@@andrewverrett568 we cant pin this on the ref.. he did everything perfect.. it is not up to the ref to handle time management for the players.. and how could he.. some players are faster than others.. there was 6 seconds to shoot after the very fast ball cleaning.. if it was up to the ref to call this it would only muddy the game with less freedom for the players to excel or err.. and potential questionable decisions.. what if the ref refused to clean it and there was a skid on the following shot.
How many times are yall gonna play this sht over and over
Fake..this is last year one
wdym?
The title literally says "Mosconi Cup 2021". Are you blind or are you blind?
It is last year's mosconi cup match. Certainly not fake
The old head trying to be a smart a$$ instead of just playing and he got punished for it