I suspect the reason why doom no longer gets a death note is because they could theoretically give town information from dead chat now that there’s a delay.
For those confused about the Seer interaction in game 1: Enchanter visited Pipe N2, making him appear as Coven to Seer results. Since 1 was Coven, that means that the Seer saw both of them as Coven, hence friends.
Also it's really tragic that Doom doesn't get their Death Note AND they don't get their Last Will since they leave town rather than dying. You killed 3 people basically in complete silence and mystery
Remembering the time i got vigilante and witched into an immume N1. Came out and told the town I was gonna take a hail mary N2, chose 15 after a few glimpses at the chat, and they were the witch. I then shot a poisoner the next day LOL
5:50 yes Seer sees two Doomsayers as friends (same NE), they see two Arsonists as friends (same NK), but a Doomsayer and an Executioner are enemies (both NE, but different roles). For Seer to see friends outside of the factions the role must match
from wiki Neutral Killing roles are only friendly to those that share their role. For example, if you compare two Serial Killers, you will find them to be friends, but if you compare a Werewolf with an Arsonist, you will find them to be enemies. Most Neutral Evil roles, and all Special roles (Vampire, Cursed Soul) behave the same way.
All Neutral Evils appear enemies with any role, not even the same roles because two *Doomsayer* don't technically win together but two *Serial Killer* will win together
@@voidfloof While you would think that, the way ToS2 works last I checked is that each different colored role counts as their own faction. So two different coven roles, both being purple, appear as friends. Same with NA, Bers and Baker, both being red, appear as friends. This also works with NK roles, as two SKs, both being blue, are found as friends. While you wouldn’t think that the same applies to NE roles, it actually does. Two Dooms can win together, although they are more often than not working against each other, and a Seer would find them as friends. It’s not who you win with that determines whether you are friends or enemies, but the faction that you belong to.
22:06 I was once targeted by the entire coven as spy for some reason One of them accused me of being arso on stand, the claimed the PM revealed me, then retrained into witch (impossible) and then died to arso The next day, the conj nuked me
Besides, in the end, whether you played "better" than someone else doesn't matter when they're in a winning position and you're not. They still played well enough to beat you.
I wonder about that CL who accepted the Admirer in the second game. Could they have retrained themselves as Medusa the night of the proposal and then stone them the following night?
Idk what happened with that seer but somehow i found a townie friends with coven for some unexplained reasons ;P Btw, there was no illusionist nor enchanter in the game
Hey Pipe and anyone else reading this comment just wanted to share a play I made today where as apoc I claimed solo baker d1 and when my famine transformed they quickly voted me and then him and the pb wiped the lobby.
5:14 What's my problem? Well, I want you to follow me down to the bottom Underneath the insane asylum Keep your wits about you while you got 'em 'Cause your wits are first to go while you're problem-solving And my problem? We glorify those, even more, when they My opinion Our culture can treat a loss Like it's a win and right before we turn on them We give them the highest of praise, and hang their banner from a ceiling Communicating, further engraving An earlier grave is an optional way No Neon gravestones try to call (Neon gravestones try to call) Neon gravestones try to call for my bones (neon gravestones try to call) Call (For my bones) Call, call, call (Call, call) Call Call (call) What's my problem? Don't get it twisted It's with the people we praise who may have assisted I could use the streams and extra conversations I could give up, and boost up my reputation I could go out with a bang They would know my name They would host and post a celebration My opinion will not be lenient My opinion, it's real convenient Our words are loud, but now I'm talking action We don't get enough love? Well, they get a fraction They say, "How could he go if he's got everything?" I'll mourn for a kid, but won't cry for a king Neon gravestones try to call (Neon gravestones try to call) Neon gravestones try to call for my bones (neon gravestones try to call) Call (For my bones) Call, call, call Promise me this (call, call) If I lose to myself You won't mourn a day And you'll move onto someone else Promise me this If I lose to myself You won't mourn a day And you'll move onto someone else Neon gravestones try to call (Neon gravestones try to call) Neon gravestones try to call for my bones Neon gravestones try to call (Neon gravestones try to call) Neon gravestones try to call for my bones But they won't get them No, they won't get them They won't get them But they won't get them Don't get me wrong The rise in awareness Is beating a stigma that no longer scares us But for sake of discussion In spirit of fairness Could we give this some room for a new point of view? And, could it be true that some could be tempted To use this mistake as a form of aggression? A form of succession? A form of a weapon? Thinking "I'll teach them" Well, I'm refusing the lesson It won't resonate in our minds I'm not disrespecting what was left behind Just pleading that "it" does not get glorified Maybe we swap out what it is that we hold so high Find your grandparents or someone of age Pay some respects for the path that they paved To life, they were dedicated Now, that should be celebrated
U sure death note updates in real time? The note check likely triggers during night time not day time, so it doesn't update if you change it afterwards.
(Spoiler of second game) I'll assume the VM wanted to do a mislynch N1, but when they couldn't do it, pass off as a failed Executioner and then go away like that? It honestly would make more sense if the CL did it because they have defense, but the VM makes honestly no sense at all
That enchanter was dumb because if they’d killed pipe they would have shown up as coven, proving 1 was coven in the seer will. Shoulda changed him to jester or something.
Roles of people in 2nd game 1Admirer 2Trapper 3Investigator 4Sheriff 5Voodoo Master 6Seer 7Bodyguard 8Vigilante 9Admirer 10Soul Collector 11Necromancer 12Retriboutonist 13Spy 14Coven leader 15Sheriff I got this from info xd pls like it took over 3 hours😢 Town 11 Coven 3 NA 1
I suspect the reason why doom no longer gets a death note is because they could theoretically give town information from dead chat now that there’s a delay.
They should allow you a death note, but only allow you to write it before you leave town
Yeah that would make a lot of sense
You can still give town info by whispering if somebody died that night
Death notes can no longer be altered after dying (I think) so that shouldn't be a problem.
@@niquel5831I think u still can I thought I saw a vid of pipe doing this recently (coulda been old vid I watched though)
Admirer, the worst they can say is no, the doom.......
new video idea for pipetron fr
Admirer: "haha I'm in danger"
"We silenced you n1 and attacked you n2, wasting our time, BUT HOW DARE YOU DO THAT TO US" 😂
also they would 100% have conjured him d3 xD
They also wasted more time going for 15 who was already doomed lol
For those confused about the Seer interaction in game 1:
Enchanter visited Pipe N2, making him appear as Coven to Seer results. Since 1 was Coven, that means that the Seer saw both of them as Coven, hence friends.
Yup. I forgot to remind 1 though, so they thought 5 was fake ;_;
Are all of his games taken from the streams?
Yea@@MightyMorphinWillyWhacker
Also it's really tragic that Doom doesn't get their Death Note AND they don't get their Last Will since they leave town rather than dying. You killed 3 people basically in complete silence and mystery
Remembering the time i got vigilante and witched into an immume N1.
Came out and told the town I was gonna take a hail mary N2, chose 15 after a few glimpses at the chat, and they were the witch. I then shot a poisoner the next day LOL
YO WAIT I WAS IN THAT GAME
did they. not think to roleblock you.
@@six-winged-juni stupidity is a common trait nowadays
@@scp096butreallife No way
5:50 yes Seer sees two Doomsayers as friends (same NE), they see two Arsonists as friends (same NK), but a Doomsayer and an Executioner are enemies (both NE, but different roles). For Seer to see friends outside of the factions the role must match
Weird.... they must of changed it then? I remember being friends with a Pirate as a Jester. Then again that was a very long time ago.
Weird, since two doomsayers or executioners aren't really friends, as they don't win together like a pair of arsonists or serial killers
NEs are enemies no matter what. Even if they’re the same ones.
Reminds me of that one Pinkaboo video 😂
from wiki
Neutral Killing roles are only friendly to those that share their role. For example, if you compare two Serial Killers, you will find them to be friends, but if you compare a Werewolf with an Arsonist, you will find them to be enemies.
Most Neutral Evil roles, and all Special roles (Vampire, Cursed Soul) behave the same way.
"N2: Doomsayer. Flummerying my pants." Dude doesn't even realise he's a top tier comedian.
the conj deathnote was actually hilarious
Pinkaboo got hung as fake seer in one of your live stream games because Doom and Doom were found as enemies when they actually appear as friends.
All Neutral Evils appear enemies with any role, not even the same roles because two *Doomsayer* don't technically win together but two *Serial Killer* will win together
Neutral Evils have no faction and cannot be found friends with anyone, not even people with the same role
@@voidfloof While you would think that, the way ToS2 works last I checked is that each different colored role counts as their own faction. So two different coven roles, both being purple, appear as friends. Same with NA, Bers and Baker, both being red, appear as friends. This also works with NK roles, as two SKs, both being blue, are found as friends. While you wouldn’t think that the same applies to NE roles, it actually does. Two Dooms can win together, although they are more often than not working against each other, and a Seer would find them as friends. It’s not who you win with that determines whether you are friends or enemies, but the faction that you belong to.
@@pheonix1916 the wiki page says that the same role neutral evils do appear friends. even if it doesn't make sense
When doomsayer NIGHT 2 pays off BIG TIME. You will have enough money to MOVE to TAHITI.
Doomsayer: "Just stick to the plan, Admiror."
Coven: "You're always talking about that plan, Doom! Be quiet!"
Doomsayer N2: "This one's a juicy one."
22:06 I was once targeted by the entire coven as spy for some reason
One of them accused me of being arso on stand, the claimed the PM revealed me, then retrained into witch (impossible) and then died to arso
The next day, the conj nuked me
"I played better though :("
Should've won then :)
Besides, in the end, whether you played "better" than someone else doesn't matter when they're in a winning position and you're not. They still played well enough to beat you.
I just ran a doom game and asked a coven what roles were for roles and a random wilding just messages me roles for free
There were like twelve people and Pipe managed to pick out the single one that he could’ve shot night 2
Pause-explanations are GOLDEN in these videos.
I wonder about that CL who accepted the Admirer in the second game. Could they have retrained themselves as Medusa the night of the proposal and then stone them the following night?
Both games you found 11 evil because they claimed tp out of nowhere.
Well that explanes the meatball.
I actually love watching these videos now and seeing people I played games with
Idk what happened with that seer but somehow i found a townie friends with coven for some unexplained reasons ;P
Btw, there was no illusionist nor enchanter in the game
Maybe there was one but got retrained?
5:52 this is the moment I realize 9 is fake, but fail to tell 1, losing us the game ;_;
Hey Pipe and anyone else reading this comment just wanted to share a play I made today where as apoc I claimed solo baker d1 and when my famine transformed they quickly voted me and then him and the pb wiped the lobby.
"who's gonna get for the spy over the seer"
Apparently,, the shroud
I'm rooting for 15 to win, go Lopunny!
Noo! They got doomed day two, after being a retributionist as 15 so they had the worst luck. The poor Bunny Pokemon!
Correction Pipton, Trapper is useless if they DISCONNECT! It's to counter the indestructible trap bug.
5:14
What's my problem?
Well, I want you to follow me down to the bottom
Underneath the insane asylum
Keep your wits about you while you got 'em
'Cause your wits are first to go while you're problem-solving
And my problem?
We glorify those, even more, when they
My opinion
Our culture can treat a loss
Like it's a win and right before we turn on them
We give them the highest of praise, and hang their banner from a ceiling
Communicating, further engraving
An earlier grave is an optional way
No
Neon gravestones try to call
(Neon gravestones try to call)
Neon gravestones try to call for my bones (neon gravestones try to call)
Call (For my bones)
Call, call, call
(Call, call)
Call
Call (call)
What's my problem?
Don't get it twisted
It's with the people we praise who may have assisted
I could use the streams and extra conversations
I could give up, and boost up my reputation
I could go out with a bang
They would know my name
They would host and post a celebration
My opinion will not be lenient
My opinion, it's real convenient
Our words are loud, but now I'm talking action
We don't get enough love?
Well, they get a fraction
They say, "How could he go if he's got everything?"
I'll mourn for a kid, but won't cry for a king
Neon gravestones try to call
(Neon gravestones try to call)
Neon gravestones try to call for my bones (neon gravestones try to call)
Call (For my bones)
Call, call, call
Promise me this (call, call)
If I lose to myself
You won't mourn a day
And you'll move onto someone else
Promise me this
If I lose to myself
You won't mourn a day
And you'll move onto someone else
Neon gravestones try to call
(Neon gravestones try to call)
Neon gravestones try to call for my bones
Neon gravestones try to call
(Neon gravestones try to call)
Neon gravestones try to call for my bones
But they won't get them
No, they won't get them
They won't get them
But they won't get them
Don't get me wrong
The rise in awareness
Is beating a stigma that no longer scares us
But for sake of discussion
In spirit of fairness
Could we give this some room for a new point of view?
And, could it be true that some could be tempted
To use this mistake as a form of aggression?
A form of succession?
A form of a weapon?
Thinking "I'll teach them"
Well, I'm refusing the lesson
It won't resonate in our minds
I'm not disrespecting what was left behind
Just pleading that "it" does not get glorified
Maybe we swap out what it is that we hold so high
Find your grandparents or someone of age
Pay some respects for the path that they paved
To life, they were dedicated
Now, that should be celebrated
6:46 also fits that song
I have no idea what any of the words mean, but the video is cool
VM wanting to be demoted to illu is crazy
Ah... Morning video of Pipetron
Wp on that solo apoc pb win
Hmm, I could have guessed 11 as coven and would have seen 15 as ret but I wouldn't have been able to guess that admirer
That was the worst case scenario for an admirer.
U sure death note updates in real time? The note check likely triggers during night time not day time, so it doesn't update if you change it afterwards.
Yo I got in a pipton video, I’m 3 in the first game
Hey look! My friend is in a pipetron video!
What the fudge was that second game? I could keep up but I couldn’t understand any of they “plays”
(Spoiler of second game)
I'll assume the VM wanted to do a mislynch N1, but when they couldn't do it, pass off as a failed Executioner and then go away like that?
It honestly would make more sense if the CL did it because they have defense, but the VM makes honestly no sense at all
Amne needs to pick a role as a day ability. Random remembering makes the role completely pointless and stupid
That enchanter was dumb because if they’d killed pipe they would have shown up as coven, proving 1 was coven in the seer will. Shoulda changed him to jester or something.
Pip doesn't say Doomsayer gaming time... The whole video is ruined.. 😭
GG Great video as always :)
Neat! A New One!
Admirers will made me cackle
Poor Admirer
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Roles of people in 2nd game
1Admirer
2Trapper
3Investigator
4Sheriff
5Voodoo Master
6Seer
7Bodyguard
8Vigilante
9Admirer
10Soul Collector
11Necromancer
12Retriboutonist
13Spy
14Coven leader
15Sheriff
I got this from info xd pls like it took over 3 hours😢
Town 11
Coven 3
NA 1
Did doomsayer got nerfed?
love oyur videos!
What is Inno?
Short for Innocent
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NGL, doom sayer's color is too similar to town, when I was watching TOS 2 for the first time, I thought DS is townie
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