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Good, but glitches in the voiceover software could've been fixed in the editing stage. Example: the awkward pause in one of the last sentences, "Did [PAUSE] we leave out..." I think there were only half a dozen awkward pauses throughout, and they could've been fixed in under 5 minutes, greatly improving the quality of the video. 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯
I think "We Were Soldiers" portrayal the USA's first major battle in Vietnam and its first use of air assault tactics stood out as a war movie. The effects on the home front added to its realism.
You have forgotten naval war films like Sink the Bismark, Midway (2019), Tora Tora Tora, In Harm's Way, Mr Roberts, Das Boot, U-571, and The Enemy Below.
Very good additions. I'd also add the Battle of Britain, particularly the Finnish movie "Winter War" very accurate in all regards. My pet hate Hurt Locker (less, Navarone) it's ridiculous, & shouldnt be included. From rash bomb disposers to then become a diplomatic protection squad, then becoming a sniper team. Next brain surgery or rocket science? How did this get nominated let alone win even one Oscar?
The Eagle Has Landed, Von Ryan's Express, The Train, Cross Of Iron, Escape To Athena, Force 10 From Navarone, Night Of The Fox, Hanover Street, The Bridge At Remagen, Stalingrad, Female Agents, The Wild Geese, The Blue Max, and 633 Squadron.
And "When Trumpets Fade". I love that you included "Stalingrad" on your list. I thought it might just be that they're limiting their choices to American films, but It's odd to me that this list included a couple of less significant films, and then left out that one.
@@pickleballer1729 I'd bought about 200 DVDs of war movies for my collection, including "When Trumpets Fade" and those 25 out of 30 as listed by the host of this video. I don't have Grand Illusion (1937), Ran (1985), Grave of the Fireflies (1988) The Hurt Locker (2008), and Schindler's List (1993).
@@vincentyeo88 I do have "The Hurt Locker" and "Schindler's List". Is there anything special about the ones you don't have? Are they rare or hard to find?
@@pickleballer1729 I think I might have watched "The Hurt Locker" and "Schindler's List" on YT before they were taken down. As for the other three movies, I didn't know about them. My favorites are those movies produced in the 1960's and 1970's.
I saw saving private Ryan with my father in law a wwii veteran and I was the youngest guy in the theater by many years the people were silent and crying during the film and I must say that I was in awe and humbled by the people around me who fought in this war and lived through its horrors
I don't know if I would necessarily classify M&C as a war movie. It feels more like an adventure movie the same way Indiana Jones does. (Still a fantastic film)
Sorry, the idea that a character acted by R. Crowe could ever advance in the navy is beyond belief for me. The man exudes insubordination, it shows through in his M&C character among others.
I think the German made Downfall is the finest war film ever made. A total production. I could watch it a million times before I’ll watch apocalypse now again.
Yeah, Apocalypse was a great film, but I am with you.......maybe another viewing some years down the road, but maybe not. I have not seen Downfall, but would love to. I have not seen Come See, but would love to see that one too.
A Bridge Too Far was an excellent movie about Operation Market Garden in Holland. The cast was amazing - almost every A-list actor from the mid 70s was involved, and its ability to stay true to the non-fiction source material (Cornelius Ryan's book of the same name) is the standard to which all historical films should be held.
Agree completely with #1. But one thing. If you’re going to put Lean’s Dr. Zhivago and Bridge on the River Kwai on this list, you can’t omit his greatest: Lawrence of Arabia.
have several of them... The Great Escape, Battle of the Bulge, A Bridge Too Far, The Dirty Dozen, Pearl Harbor, Midway, Twelve O'Clock High and Gallipoli.
Oh, with all respect if you are referring to the 1965 movie Battle of the Bulge, that movie is full of inaccuracies to the point that Gen Dwight D. Eisenhauer came out of retirement to say it was “historically inaccurate”. Eisenhower criticized virtually everything about the film, from its setting to its equipment to its time-line. But I agree The Great Escape and A Bridge Too Far are included.
I was gonna say that Twelve O’Clock High is perhaps the single best war movie of all time. It addresses the stresses that leadership must endure and endure and keep on enduring. Great cast and script. I love this movie.
as a child i saw all quiet on the western front,the sadness of it haunted me ,all those young boys to the slaughter,its the ultimate expression of the sheer waste of life of that conflict and the one word that comes out of it.....why?to clutch a butterfly ........clutching at life itself as its torn from him.
Ok. I'm going to honorably mention: Valkyrie with Tom Cruise. Also, very important, Generation War. A German made film in 3 parts concerning a group of teenage friends in Berlin and their experiences through the war. Very, very good.
Ahhh, Gallipoli. The first time that I saw it, I was at friend's house in high school. When the scene near the end happens, when drops his gun to run faster and the other dude is yelling "run! Run like the wind!" I didn't realize it, but I had stood up and was leaning in towards the TV. That movie really drew me in, it was incredible.
I agree that it is one of the best movies ever made, but maybe it is not a "war movie" as it is more the villagers trying to resist a band of rouges rather than a war in itself. At least they did include "Ran".
G'day Thefamouspeopleus, I didn't. In fact, I think the whole film is 'yawnable' in it's improbability. The end scene is darn near nauseating. Just my opinion. Cheers, Bill H.
Movies like Inglorious Bastards, Where Eagles Dare and Kelly's Heroes don't belong on this list. They maybe grreat entertainment but they don't depict real war. Here are some other options: Waterloo Gettysburg The Enemy Below Enemy at the Gates Memphis Bell Hamburger Hill (a much more authentic film than Platoon) We Were Soldiers Porkchop Hill And the real #1 Das Boot.
Glad you made this comment, it was my first thought. If Inglorious Bastards is included, then why not Captain America? Das Boot should be in the top 5.
While I do take, and accept, your points!, there is so much about the madness, brutality, caprice and relentless intensities of war that a simple quasi-historical narrative will never come close. However, occasionally there are nuances - within all of the films mentioned above - that are so well portrayed that a 'brief candle' illuminates the experiences of those who endured them. Sometimes the use of fictional, or counterfactual, scenarios is the optimal or even the 'only' way of getting across those 'Realities of War'. And there are usually a swathe, if not a plethora!, of those experiential realities, as well as historical hat-tips, to be depicted within the 2 hours or so of cinema. The television programme juxtaposition of 'Flags of Our Fathers' and 'Letters from Iwo Jima' was inspired! Films like 'Come and See' and 'Sophie's Choice' will scar you. I am an Historian by training, occupation and inclination. I am only too aware of just what human beings have done to other human beings. As I have got older, I have found that the albeit fictionalised reinsertion of the human elements into the dry, 'facts and figures', intelligence reports, war diaries and so on that constitute primary source materials make them far more affecting. 'People are complicated' or 'What a piece of work is man...'? Yep. My all-time 'best War film' is still 'Cross of Iron'. My all-time favourite film is probably 'Fistful of Dynamite' aka 'Duck You Sucker', which I would classify as a war film, too, and both of which I first saw in the late 1970s.
Thank you. I was so caught up in the list on this video I had forgotten Gettysburg and We Were Soldiers......Memphis Belle was really good, but it was also too unrealistic and by that I mean that they added almost everything to the film that could possibly happen and still survive......just too much stuff for one mission. Enemy at the Gates was darned good too. The Enemy Below has the best last line of any war movie I've ever seen......."Oh I thin you will". Great line. Yes, I could not believe that they left out Das Boot.......but on the other hand, thank God they left out Dunkirk. (Where was the Luftwaffe? Where were all the men on the beach? Where were all the little boats? Man I was soooooo disappointed in that one.
I saw Apocalypse Now in the theater. At the end when the credits started, people got up to go and when the bombing started, everyone turned around and sat back down.
The video has so much to it that I will have to watch it several more times to really digest it all. Overall no profound arguments, that in itself speaks to the quality of your list. I must also confess that I have not seen all of the movies; however, your clips have produced a desire to seek some out.
I have seen most of these films. As a french people, i have a preference for the french movies. La Grande Illusion which is part of your list But also : Week-end à Zuydcote (For french soldiers arrive in Dunkerque, the hero tries to embark for England) Les Croix de Bois (one of the most realistic films on the trench war during WW1) La vie et rien d'autre (The quest for missing soldiers after the First World War) Capitaine Conan. ( The exploits of the free corps, trench cleaners and the rigidity of high command on the orient front, WW1) L'armée des ombres (during the occupation, the war of the resistance) 317ème section. (A platoon of french soldiers tries to reach their lines during the Indochine war) Au revoir la-haut (A war memorial scam carried out by two soldiers after the war) La chambre des officiers (An officer injured in the face at the very beginning of the war is taken care of by a surgeon who attempts facial reconstructions.) La bataille du rail (the resistance of French railway workers). Un taxi pour Tobrouk (A french commando lost in the desert, take a german prisonner and tries to come back to his lines in the middle of the africa corps retreat.)
@@Kalemnos Thank you for those recommendations, I read French fairly well and can speak/understand French - after a fashion, anyway! - so your list has certainly piqued my interest!
I would add Battleground, 12 O'clock High, In Harm's Way, The Big Red One, Mr. Robert's, and possibly The Caine Mutiny. Hon Mentions: McArthur, The Darkest Hour, Anzio, Greyhound, and To Hell and Back
This is a very good list. I'm very into war movies, especially WW2. As they went by I keep wondering where Apocalypse Now was ranked. At #1 was perfect as it's one of my favorite movies of all time.
I could watch every Vietnam movie without even thinking about watching apocalypse now, for some reason I never liked that movie, its always has been my least favorite Vietnam war movie.
It's Ok Jason. You have the right to be wrong. Perhaps it is the operatic style, or the unhidden moralizing, both of which I happen to embrace. You never need to hop on board with another's opinion. Respect.
My Top 10: 1) Catch 22 2) The Pianist 3) Paths of Glory 4) Saving Private Ryan 5) The Great Escape 6) Fury 7) Run Silent Run Deep 8) Cold Mountain 9) Full Metal Jacket 10) Patton
You also forgot Battle of Britain, Dambusters, the siege of Jadotville, a bridge too far, they amethyst incident, we dive at dawn, to name but a few....
Gentlemen, this is the best examination of a genre of film, as well as the most brilliant and reasoned list of great films I have ever encountered, ANYWHERE! I would only quibble by placing "Come and See" as the #2 war film of all time. Otherwise, I delighted in every one of the 34 minutes that you masterfully assembled. As primarily a pacifist, I have seen nearly every film you highlighted--and now have a list of MUST SEE "war movies", being the ones you listed that I have yet to see. If only more compendiums of this type conducted itself with the thoroughness and intellectual rigor and reserve that you have. Based on this video alone, I am becoming a subscriber now. Thank you!!!
An excellent selection. Of course you cannot include all the great war films, there are just too many. Audie Murphy's auto biographical 'To Hell and Back', 'Breaker Morant', 'The Battle of Austerlitz', 'The King of Hearts' are first rate additions, and like the opening scene in 'Private Ryan', the opening scene in 'Three Kings' is ultra realistic and disturbing. Another person noted the lack of naval greats, but again there are so many worthy inclusions that this would have become a ten hour video of way more than 30 selections. Thanks, this was definitely worth watching, and I will check out the seven of them that are new to me. 😀
Das Boot, Master and Commander, Bridge too Far, Twelve O'Clock High, The Lost Battalion, War Hunt, Pork Chop Hill, and Stalag 17 . I do like your list. Apocalypse Now was amazing in the movie theater. I was 12 and it was a powerful movie to see.
Some great movies there & a few I haven’t seen but for me #1 is All Quiet on the Western Front 2022 shows just how mad war is better than anything I’ve seen
Guess maybe you didn't catch,"Catch 22". It was the first R rated movie I ever saw, I was with a buddy who was a direct decendent of Edgar Allen Poe, as was his dad. He took me and my buddy to his cabin in the Catoctin Mts, and let us shoot his M1 carbine, to break glass powerline insulators... was a wild weekend, circa 1970
Of all the Vietnam movies, one of my favourites remains Hamburger Hill. It has some cheesy dialogue( as isn't uncommon in the genre)here and there, and didn't have the big budget, - it has a dated production style, - yet some of the characters and dialogue are great, and the battle sequences are pretty tight.Because it has no claim to being any "big statement" or attempt at cinematic artistry, it's authentic and direct on a different level.Almost documentary like.This is not to say that it doesn't have some truly beautiful and professionally well handled moments. I'd definitely argue with the veracity of many of these choices.Good war films are as statistically rare as good horror movies , - which is ironic,- because the concepts with the easiest natural quantity of drama commonly aren't as thoughtfully treated.A good war movie should give you some idea of what it's like to be there, not just serve as a history lesson; that's the hard part. War is an abstraction to most Westerners; we have opinions about Gaza, or the Ukraine without understanding the critical and fundamental human suffering involved.There is a danger in this, in having these disaffected opinions, in not being able to even imagine.
I saw "All Quiet on the Western Front" when I was 11 years old. Changed my life. When I was in the hospital a few years back and almost died one night, I had a hallucination of the whole movie but with muppets in the cast (the scene at the end in the crater was especially memorable) and with a 70's rock opera soundtrack. There was some weird sub-plot about one of the Brit's noble houses using the codes from another "lost" noble house to create propaganda about the war going better than it was, and one of the other houses figuring it out and having to prove it to everyone before they destroyed Brittain's international credibility. I don't know man, I was dying and that shit got super weird.
@@vincentyeo88 Oh yes - I didn't see it until I was quite far along in life. A work colleague of mine found out I hadn't, and the next day he showed up with a DVD and pretty much forced it on me. I loved it right away. It was like a strange mash-up of a standard war film and a MASH-atmosphere war film. And Oddball will forever be my fave and just defines Donald Sutherland for me. 🙂 How could you NOT just totally love that guy?
30 Glory (1989) 29 Full Metal Jacket (1987) 28 The Pianist (2002) 27 Paths of Glory (1957) 26 From Here to Eternity (a953) 25 Gallipoli (1981) 24 Sergeant York (1941) 23 Black Hawk Down (2001) 22 The Deer Hunter (1978) 21 Cross of Iron (a977) 20 Lawrence of Arabia (1062) 19 Platoon (1986) 18 The Hurt Locker (2008) 17 The Longest Day (1962) 16 The Bridge on the River Kwai (1957) 15 Cruel Sea (1953) 14 Battle of Britain (1969) 13 The Thin Red Line (1998) 12 Saving Private Ryan (1998) 11 Stalingrad (1993) 10 Flags of our Father (2006) 09 Defiance (2008) 08 Downfall (2004) 07 Apocalypse Now (1979) 06 Twelve O'Clock High (1949) 05 We Were Soldiers (2002) 04 Letters from Iwo Jima (2006) 03 Das Boot (1981) 02 Come and See (1985) 01 All Quiet on the Western Front (1930)
DRUMS ALONG THE MOHAWK, LAST OF THE MOHICANS, NORTHWEST PASSAGE etc. etc. etc. to name a few MORE GREAT MOVIES you all missed (?) - By the way I'm NOT MAD - I just love WAR MOVIES and I'm an OLD MAN who's seen a lot of WAR MOVIES (How about - IS PARIS BURNING ) ??
Everyone has their own list of the best war films of all time. Many of those mentioned here are undoubtedly included. But also: "Das Boot" (The Boat), "Der Untergang" (Downfall), "Many Wars Ago" (Uomino contri), "Stalingrad" (Stalingrad) from 1993, "Hacksaw Ridge" and "Captain Conan" (Capitaine Conan).
I am a Vietnam Era Veteran, which means that I volunteered for the Army during the time off conflict but was not sent to Vietnam. This may inform some of my picks. Not on any watch list for me from your list would be The Deer Hunter, The Hurt Locker, Full Metal Jacket and Apocalypse Now. There is a trend there for the curious. I am heartened to see some of my favorite movies here. Especially high marks for Grave of the Fireflies. Glory was fabulous but may have been better still if the focus was more on Morgan Freeman and less on Matthew Broderick. A few of my favorites perhaps someone else will find a good choice. The Longest Month, Lawrence of Arabia, Empire of the Sun and too many to list films set in Iraq and Afghanistan. Just this week I saw Devotion and Fury. Emotions they evoked will require further viewing. I will close with two wholehearted recommendations for King of Hearts and Foyles War. The later is not a movie, but simply must mention it.
I agree with you except for Apocalypse now, which was never intended to be realistic. It is more like a bad acid trip recollection of outright madness.
From David A. Wood: In my opinion, your list is woefully incomplete as I think that there are four films that really should have ideally made your list of 30 Greatest War Films. The first one you have forgotten was Sam Peckinpah's only war film, the singularly violent, yet emotionally compelling masterpiece, 1977's "Cross of Iron." "Cross of Iron" was about two important topics. One, this, again, singularly violent film was about the eventually lethal, personality conflict between two distinctly different, World War 2 German Army soldiers. The first character being a war weary, yet indomitably capable Sergeant named Steiner who uses his acquired skills as a thoroughly battle-hardened veteran to keep the equally battle-hardened men in his squad alive, as much as he possibly can, as they are all progressively and thoroughly "put through the ringer" of the excessively brutal, wartime combat that occurred within the.mercilessly unforgiving Eastern Front of World War 2. Sergeant Steiner's ultimate foe would be his immediate military superior, an inexperienced, yet unabashedly arrogant, born-and-reared member of the august Prussian Nobility, German Army Captain Stransky. The insufferably arrogant and consistently self-serving Stransky is an entirely self-entitled man who will amorally do absolutely anything to "earn" Nazi Germany's highest military award, the vaunted Iron Cross, to reflexively maintain his "precious" family's supposedly honorable tradition of German Military service. Number two, "Cross of Iron" is also cinematically depicting the spectacularly violent, no-holds-barred combat that took place on the Eastern Front in 1943 as the increasingly outmanned German Army was steadily in the tragic progress of dangerously losing its epically conducted war against the USSR's numerically larger and martially resurgent Red Army. Finally, "Cross of Iron" was an unusual film in that the soldiers of the German Army were the main characters of the movie whereas in most movies about World War 2, the Allied Soldiers (usually British and/or American) are always the the protagonists and therefore the heroes. As such, the combat of Western Europe is always the venue shown in these particular movies because that was where those particular stories took place instead of Eastern Europe. Eastern Europe was where the majority of the German Army of World War 2 happened to have been engaged. Two, another 1977 film that should have made your lengthy list was the mostly historically accurate and intellectually thoughtful film helmed by British director/actor Richard Attenborough. This momentous film was about the doomed "Operation: Market Garden" campaign that took in the Netherlands in September 1944. I am referring to the star-studded film, "A Bridge Too Far." If you were going to pick a World War 2 film about a military campaign that actually occurred, "A Bridge Too Far" should have been on your list instead of the somewhat hammy and cinematically bloated "The Longest Day." While "The Longest Day" required three international directors to create the film, "A Bridge Too Far," which was just as complex an undertaking, required merely one very talented director. Granted, the film was told by a mostly British perspective, thereby showing the British characters somewhat realistically while the American characters, on the other hand, were shown as stereotypically shallow "American" characters, the film still works. By the way, " A Bridge Too Far" is my fourth favorite War Film. What film happens to be my all-time favorite War Film? That would undeniably have to be Sam Peckinpah's previously mentioned "Cross of Iron!" Two other memorable World War 2 films about the harrowing experiences of being a Prisoner of War (POW) also should have made your extensive list. They were director Billy Wilder's 1953 Comedy Drama classic, "Stalag 17" and the 1965 British dramatic film, "King Rat" which starred American actor George Segal. Compared to the more famous 1963 Action/Adventure-oriented, World War 2 POW film " The Great Escape," which still does hold up as a great film to watch, both "Stalag 17" and "King Rat" seem to be more humbly realistic in their storytelling and therefore are both more compelling to watch. The reasons why I thought that "Stalag 17" and "King Rat" should have at least both made the list alongside "The Great Escape" if not actually replaced that film on your list is because of their realistic lack of glamour and also more realistic characters. One film (Stalag 17) was alternately both a thoroughly entertaining "Black Humor" comedy detailing the daily lives of American POWs imprisoned in a World War 2 German Military POW camp and a compelling War Drama of slowly unmasking a POW traitor (USAAF Sergeant Price) while also gradually telling a story of eventual Personal Redemption of the film's main character, the initially detested, angrily cynical, yet ultimately heroic POW Camp "Black Marketeering Wheeler-Dealer," imprisoned USAAF Sergeant Sefton. Sefton eventually saves the recently captured and ingeniously hidden USAAF Bomber pilot, Lt. Dunbar from being a permanent POW by taking him along in an escape from Stalag 17. This was an escape that was successfully facilitated by the ingeniously sinister distraction created by Sefton's fellow American POWs when they vengefully shoved the eventually unmasked and ideally bound Price out of his prison barracks to be successfully shot to death by the POW camp's vigilant German guards, i.e. his own side! I first saw " Stalag 17" in its entirety on the night of Friday, December 3, 1976. Just so that the reader will know, this was exactly a week before my 13th Birthday. The 1965 movie, "King Rat" is an equally riveting story that, like the earlier mentioned "Stalag 17," was shot in stark Black-and-White film. " King Rat" is about one, the lengths (either rightfully or wrongly) an enterprising POW (US Army Corporal King) is willing to go to in order to survive intact while imprisoned in a POW camp that was brutally run by the Imperial Japanese Army (IJA). Two, "King Rat" is also about the deep, yet seemingly unlikely friendship (King and British Royal Air Force Flight Lt. Marlowe) that can occur under those dismal conditions. Third, "King Rat" is about Military Styled-Social Class Conflict as Corporal King, a US Army enlisted man, is seen, albeit momentarily, as the top POW in an IJA prison camp populated by mostly British/British Empire POWs who were mostly all Commissioned Military Officers. King's somewhat morally dubious, yet rigorously hard-earned personal status as the most important POW due to his being an expert "Black Marketeering-type Prison Scrounger" thoroughly upsets the angrily jealous POW who also functions as the POW Camp Provost Officer, British Army Lt. Gray. Then lastly, the movie "King Rat" is about Irony, specifically portraying the quietly hostile King-Gray relationship. US Army Corporal King, who would normally be seen in any normal POW movie as a traitorous "Bad Guy" because of his flagrant and seemingly amoral collaboration with the IJA soldiers officiously running the camp, who by the way the movie-viewing audience never actually sees until the final section of the film, is actually portrayed as an entirely charming and intelligently resourceful man who ably alternates his necessary activity of "wheeling-and-dealing" with the enemy while unselfishly taking care of his fellow POWs, especially close friend RAF Flight Lieutenant Marlowe, while, on the other hand, the equally imprisoned British Army Lt./POW Camp Provost Officer Gray is portrayed as a power hungry/cruelly domineering man who, while he does not actually collaborate with the Japanese the way that King obviously does, uses his position of relative authority to forthrightly bully his fellow POW Military Officers, many of whom would normally militarily outrank Gray. All that having been said, these four films (Cross of Iron, A Bridge Too Far, Stalag 17, and King Rat) should have easily made your list of "Top Thirty War Films. Nuff Said and Peace Out from Kettering, Ohio, everybody. ☮️🇺🇲😃👋✌️👍
When I was with an Armored Cavalry unit in Germany in 1972 I remember the NCOs had a comeback line if the troopers asked too many questions after the orders were already given. They'd say, "Why do you ask, you writing a book?" After reading the lengthy comment above I was reminded of our Staff Sergeant who previously served in the Polish Army. He had an accent. He would ask, "You write-um boook?" Ha Ha
Battle of the Bulge, Battle of Britain, The Enemy Below, Sahara 1943, Objective Burma, A Bridge Too Far, Pork Chop Hill, Green Beret's, The Bridge at Remagen, Dunkirk, 1917.
@@Ogre6972 it really doesn't... it has everything connected to human emotions throughout. Humor being one I remember most. In a setting where heartache, terror and anger is prevalent the little bit of funny antics seems to be amplified.
What about Battle of the Bulg, Battleground, A Bridge Too Far, Band of Brothers, The Pacific , The Sands of Iwo Jima, the Flying Leathernecks, The Bridge at Toko Ri , Fury ???
Some other great war movies are The 7th dawn, lost command, Gung ho, Darby 's Rangers, anxious, the bridge at remaggen, A bridge too far, Lawrence of Arabia, the horse soldiers, the green berets, first to fight, custers last stand, the red badge of courage, run silent run deep, in harms way, midway, MacArthur, the Victor's, the devils brigade, von Ryan's express, the battle of Britain, none but the brave, cast a giant shadow, Shenandoah, the mountain road, she wore a yellow ribbon, the battle of the bulge, battle ground, the bridges at toko ri, flight of the intruder, the final countdown, and my favorite, To Hell and Back. B tw, I knew an airforce lt colonel the was in left stalag 3 where the movie The great escape happen. He was there a few months after that escape and successfully escaped himself. He went on to serve in Korea and Vietnam as a master navigator with 23 year's of service.
"From Here to Eternity" A postwar movie, "Best Days of Our Lives" is an even more powerful movie in that it depicts the post war affects on people's lives.
The Battle of Britain, The Odd Angry Shot, Danger Close, The Lighthorsemen, Run Silent Run Deep, and Das Boot could all take there place here. But it’s a pretty good list. 👍🏻
How about Enemy at the Gates and A Bridge too far and Battle of the Bulge? Guess you should have made it top 50 and separated services. In the good and should be watched (obscure catagory) Dieppe!
When I saw Apocalypse Now in the theater, Coppola was my favorite director, and I thought he had outdone Cimino and Stone for directing the best Vietnam War movie of all time...and I thought The Deer Hunter and Platoon were outstanding, very well-made movies. Then I saw Full Metal Jacket and transferred the mantle to Kubrick. I think it is underrated, especially the scene near the end where Joker struggles with the mercy killing and his comrades misinterpret his actions. Apocalypse Now still makes my top 5 for this list. Schindler's List is my favorite movie and I think the best ever made in any genre, although if it is evaluated strictly on the basis of being a war movie, I can see it as low as it is. Das Boot is conspicuously missing and must be a top 10 selection on this list. Like Schindler's List, we can question whether Downfall is a war movie, but if it is, it deserves a spot here as well.
I'm surprised you don't have Band of Brothers in there. I do agree Apocalypse Now is #1. Favorite scene: Captain Willard was asked if where they were going is going to be "hairy." And, do you like it hairy? Capt. Willard's response: "You never know who you are working in some factory in Ohio."
"When Trumpets Fade", "Gettysburg" and many more, but _most of all_ , "Stalingrad", are way better than some of the ones on this list. Personally, the number 1 choice is horrible. "Apocalypse Now"? No way.
I was a Ranger in Black Hawk Down. I flew in BlackHawks and repealed down a rope to the ground . We thought it would just be a few hours , but it turned out to be much ,longer. It was a sick attack. The “Skinny’s “ were a bit sick with what they would do if they found a dead solider they would treat it like a rag doll. That’s one reason our motto was “No man gets left behind.” They had the real names of the men who passed. Who Aid the Ultimate sacrifice! It really was hell Lisa friends are brothers getting shot about 10 feet away from us. The movie here has a few funny parts. We had to try to make light of things when we could just stop us from going crazy that’s the same any war..
Stanley Kubrick has 2 films on this list, both masterpieces. Two wonderful films not on this list, the 2017 British production Journey's End, and 2019 also British production 2017. The German 2022 production of All Quiet on The Western Front is superb.
Excellent list; 30 is not enough. Without taking to the air, Zulu, 300, and Breaker Morant come to mind. However, the only war movie poster gracing my den's walls is a 4' x 5' French-version film poster of *Apocalypse Now* . .
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Do a review about: The Dirty Dozen: the fatal Mission (1988).
Good, but glitches in the voiceover software could've been fixed in the editing stage. Example: the awkward pause in one of the last sentences, "Did [PAUSE] we leave out..."
I think there were only half a dozen awkward pauses throughout, and they could've been fixed in under 5 minutes, greatly improving the quality of the video.
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I think "We Were Soldiers" portrayal the USA's first major battle in Vietnam and its first use of air assault tactics stood out as a war movie. The effects on the home front added to its realism.
You have forgotten naval war films like Sink the Bismark, Midway (2019), Tora Tora Tora, In Harm's Way, Mr Roberts, Das Boot, U-571, and The Enemy Below.
Master and Commander also missing
Don't forget the movie "they were expendable"
Very good additions. I'd also add the Battle of Britain, particularly the Finnish movie "Winter War" very accurate in all regards. My pet hate Hurt Locker (less, Navarone) it's ridiculous, & shouldnt be included. From rash bomb disposers to then become a diplomatic protection squad, then becoming a sniper team. Next brain surgery or rocket science? How did this get nominated let alone win even one Oscar?
Das Boot! One of my all time favorites.
@@prof_kaos9341 because it was directed by a female. that's the only reason.
Twelve O'Clock High Hands down the Best of the best war movies. It's leadership lesson is second to none.
My personal favorite is "We Were Soldiers"
My friend was in the Big Red One in Vietnam. He says that movie is Accurate.
Fun stuff, thanks for sharing! Which movie comes in at second place?
@@FactsVerse Probably American Sniper.
Exactly
...and Hamburger Hill.
The Eagle Has Landed, Von Ryan's Express, The Train, Cross Of Iron, Escape To Athena, Force 10 From Navarone, Night Of The Fox, Hanover Street, The Bridge At Remagen, Stalingrad, Female Agents, The Wild Geese, The Blue Max, and 633 Squadron.
Oh yes! Cross of Iron.
And "When Trumpets Fade". I love that you included "Stalingrad" on your list. I thought it might just be that they're limiting their choices to American films, but It's odd to me that this list included a couple of less significant films, and then left out that one.
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I'd bought about 200 DVDs of war movies for my collection, including "When Trumpets Fade" and those 25 out of 30 as listed by the host of this video.
I don't have Grand Illusion (1937), Ran (1985), Grave of the Fireflies (1988)
The Hurt Locker (2008), and Schindler's List (1993).
@@vincentyeo88 I do have "The Hurt Locker" and "Schindler's List". Is there anything special about the ones you don't have? Are they rare or hard to find?
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I think I might have watched "The Hurt Locker" and "Schindler's List" on YT before they were taken down.
As for the other three movies, I didn't know about them. My favorites are those movies produced in the 1960's and 1970's.
I saw saving private Ryan with my father in law a wwii veteran and I was the youngest guy in the theater by many years the people were silent and crying during the film and I must say that I was in awe and humbled by the people around me who fought in this war and lived through its horrors
How in the world could you include Kelly's Heros, Inglorious Bastards and The Longest Day and leave out Das Boot, Stalag 17 and Master and Commander.
Solid choices.I was surprised at how good M&C really was.
Kelly's Heroes liberated the gold in France for the common soldiers.
I don't know if I would necessarily classify M&C as a war movie. It feels more like an adventure movie the same way Indiana Jones does.
(Still a fantastic film)
@@timtheskeptic1147 It did take place during an actual war; it's just not a more modern, conventional format.
Sorry, the idea that a character acted by R. Crowe could ever advance in the navy is beyond belief for me. The man exudes insubordination, it shows through in his M&C character among others.
"All Quiet on the Western Front" is indeed a masterpiece (The original version not the two modern versions)
yes even as a child it had a great influence and sadness upon me
I much prefer the 2022 German version to the original ... a wonderful film
Alsolutely!
I think the German made Downfall is the finest war film ever made. A total production. I could watch it a million times before I’ll watch apocalypse now again.
Yeah, Apocalypse was a great film, but I am with you.......maybe another viewing some years down the road, but maybe not. I have not seen Downfall, but would love to. I have not seen Come See, but would love to see that one too.
A list like this, omitting "Der Untergang", is just pathetic. Great movie and possibly the best actor performance I have ever seen, by Bruno Ganz.
A masterpiece!
A Bridge Too Far was an excellent movie about Operation Market Garden in Holland. The cast was amazing - almost every A-list actor from the mid 70s was involved, and its ability to stay true to the non-fiction source material (Cornelius Ryan's book of the same name) is the standard to which all historical films should be held.
Fun stuff, thanks for sharing this info about A Bridge Too Far! We'll try to watch it during the weekend.
Agree completely with #1. But one thing. If you’re going to put Lean’s Dr. Zhivago and Bridge on the River Kwai on this list, you can’t omit his greatest: Lawrence of Arabia.
You are right Lawrence of Arabia, fantastic, the war and the politics the filming
I really enjoy watching Russian WW2 movies with english subtitles
have several of them... The Great Escape, Battle of the Bulge, A Bridge Too Far, The Dirty Dozen, Pearl Harbor, Midway, Twelve O'Clock High and Gallipoli.
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Ew not Pearl Harbor Tora Tora Tora, the movie you should watch
Battle of Britain, the Winter War (Finnish). Dump Hurt Locker, a silly story that is shallow & comic book thin.
Oh, with all respect if you are referring to the 1965 movie Battle of the Bulge, that movie is full of inaccuracies to the point that Gen Dwight D. Eisenhauer came out of retirement to say it was “historically inaccurate”. Eisenhower criticized virtually everything about the film, from its setting to its equipment to its time-line. But I agree The Great Escape and A Bridge Too Far are included.
I was gonna say that Twelve O’Clock High is perhaps the single best war movie of all time. It addresses the stresses that leadership must endure and endure and keep on enduring. Great cast and script. I love this movie.
as a child i saw all quiet on the western front,the sadness of it haunted me ,all those young boys to the slaughter,its the ultimate expression of the sheer waste of life of that conflict and the one word that comes out of it.....why?to clutch a butterfly ........clutching at life itself as its torn from him.
Ok. I'm going to honorably mention:
Valkyrie with Tom Cruise. Also, very important, Generation War. A German made film in 3 parts concerning a group of teenage friends in Berlin and their experiences through the war. Very, very good.
Ahhh, Gallipoli. The first time that I saw it, I was at friend's house in high school. When the scene near the end happens, when drops his gun to run faster and the other dude is yelling "run! Run like the wind!" I didn't realize it, but I had stood up and was leaning in towards the TV. That movie really drew me in, it was incredible.
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For me Kurosawa's Seven Samurai is the the greatest war movie.
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Indeed and I liked "Dreams" as well especially "The Tunnel"
I agree that it is one of the best movies ever made, but maybe it is not a "war movie" as it is more the villagers trying to resist a band of rouges rather than a war in itself. At least they did include "Ran".
Did anyone else find the Russian Roulette scenes in "The Deer Hunter" absolutely gripping?
It was phoney, played by a phoney deniro.
@@9az56t82 I dont't wonder why you have it in for DeNiro. Could it be politically motivated?
Indeed I did. That may be why I haven't watched it in decades. I will correct that.
G'day Thefamouspeopleus, I didn't. In fact, I think the whole film is 'yawnable' in it's improbability. The end scene is darn near nauseating. Just my opinion. Cheers, Bill H.
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The Great Escape,The Dirty Dozen, The Big Red One, The Green Berets are epically AWESOME 👍
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Movies like Inglorious Bastards, Where Eagles Dare and Kelly's Heroes don't belong on this list. They maybe grreat entertainment but they don't depict real war. Here are some other options:
Waterloo
Gettysburg
The Enemy Below
Enemy at the Gates
Memphis Bell
Hamburger Hill (a much more authentic film than Platoon)
We Were Soldiers
Porkchop Hill
And the real #1 Das Boot.
My thoughts exactly, there are so many rubbish films on the list
Glad you made this comment, it was my first thought. If Inglorious Bastards is included, then why not Captain America? Das Boot should be in the top 5.
I'm surprised they didn't add 300 to this as well...
While I do take, and accept, your points!, there is so much about the madness, brutality, caprice and relentless intensities of war that a simple quasi-historical narrative will never come close.
However, occasionally there are nuances - within all of the films mentioned above - that are so well portrayed that a 'brief candle' illuminates the experiences of those who endured them.
Sometimes the use of fictional, or counterfactual, scenarios is the optimal or even the 'only' way of getting across those 'Realities of War'.
And there are usually a swathe, if not a plethora!, of those experiential realities, as well as historical hat-tips, to be depicted within the 2 hours or so of cinema.
The television programme juxtaposition of 'Flags of Our Fathers' and 'Letters from Iwo Jima' was inspired!
Films like 'Come and See' and 'Sophie's Choice' will scar you.
I am an Historian by training, occupation and inclination.
I am only too aware of just what human beings have done to other human beings. As I have got older, I have found that the albeit fictionalised reinsertion of the human elements into the dry, 'facts and figures', intelligence reports, war diaries and so on that constitute primary source materials make them far more affecting. 'People are complicated' or 'What a piece of work is man...'?
Yep.
My all-time 'best War film' is still 'Cross of Iron'. My all-time favourite film is probably 'Fistful of Dynamite' aka 'Duck You Sucker', which I would classify as a war film, too, and both of which I first saw in the late 1970s.
Thank you. I was so caught up in the list on this video I had forgotten Gettysburg and We Were Soldiers......Memphis Belle was really good, but it was also too unrealistic and by that I mean that they added almost everything to the film that could possibly happen and still survive......just too much stuff for one mission. Enemy at the Gates was darned good too. The Enemy Below has the best last line of any war movie I've ever seen......."Oh I thin you will". Great line. Yes, I could not believe that they left out Das Boot.......but on the other hand, thank God they left out Dunkirk. (Where was the Luftwaffe? Where were all the men on the beach? Where were all the little boats? Man I was soooooo disappointed in that one.
Extraordinarily well-compiled. Bravo.
How about Midway 1976, Battle of Britain and A Bridge to Far. It was a good list, I have watched 25 of them!
Huh? No mention of "The Blue Max". What a great pix. With a drop-dead gorgeous Ursula Andress in her prime, what more could a poor boy ask for?
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I totally agree Chum. 👍
Battle of Britain - without this one none of the others would have taken place.
....... and we would all be in labor camps speaking German !
@@bogtrottername7001 Except those deemed as ''subhuman'' by Nazi ideology, as they would have been murdered
I saw Apocalypse Now in the theater. At the end when the credits started, people got up to go and when the bombing started, everyone turned around and sat back down.
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I would like to have seen The Bridge included in this list.
Great list, I think you nailed it.
The video has so much to it that I will have to watch it several more times to really digest it all. Overall no profound arguments, that in itself speaks to the quality of your list. I must also confess that I have not seen all of the movies; however, your clips have produced a desire to seek some out.
I have seen most of these films. As a french people, i have a preference for the french movies.
La Grande Illusion which is part of your list
But also : Week-end à Zuydcote (For french soldiers arrive in Dunkerque, the hero tries to embark for England)
Les Croix de Bois (one of the most realistic films on the trench war during WW1)
La vie et rien d'autre (The quest for missing soldiers after the First World War)
Capitaine Conan. ( The exploits of the free corps, trench cleaners and the rigidity of high command on the orient front, WW1)
L'armée des ombres (during the occupation, the war of the resistance)
317ème section. (A platoon of french soldiers tries to reach their lines during the Indochine war)
Au revoir la-haut (A war memorial scam carried out by two soldiers after the war)
La chambre des officiers (An officer injured in the face at the very beginning of the war is taken care of by a surgeon who attempts facial reconstructions.)
La bataille du rail (the resistance of French railway workers).
Un taxi pour Tobrouk (A french commando lost in the desert, take a german prisonner and tries to come back to his lines in the middle of the africa corps retreat.)
Thank you. I will add these to my watch list.
@@Kalemnos Thank you for those recommendations, I read French fairly well and can speak/understand French - after a fashion, anyway! - so your list has certainly piqued my interest!
We Were Soldiers was really good too. I did like Tora! Tora! Tora!
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I would add Battleground, 12 O'clock High, In Harm's Way, The Big Red One, Mr. Robert's, and possibly The Caine Mutiny. Hon Mentions: McArthur, The Darkest Hour, Anzio, Greyhound, and To Hell and Back
This is a very good list. I'm very into war movies, especially WW2. As they went by I keep wondering where Apocalypse Now was ranked. At #1 was perfect as it's one of my favorite movies of all time.
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"Gettysburg". The most consequential battle ever fought in the Western Hemisphere. A well done film. Criminal that it was not even mentioned.
I could watch every Vietnam movie without even thinking about watching apocalypse now, for some reason I never liked that movie, its always has been my least favorite Vietnam war movie.
It's Ok Jason. You have the right to be wrong. Perhaps it is the operatic style, or the unhidden moralizing, both of which I happen to embrace. You never need to hop on board with another's opinion. Respect.
My Top 10:
1) Catch 22
2) The Pianist
3) Paths of Glory
4) Saving Private Ryan
5) The Great Escape
6) Fury
7) Run Silent Run Deep
8) Cold Mountain
9) Full Metal Jacket
10) Patton
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@@FactsVerse Favorite Actor: Robert Duvall.🏆👍
You also forgot Battle of Britain, Dambusters, the siege of Jadotville, a bridge too far, they amethyst incident, we dive at dawn, to name but a few....
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Gettysburg, Zulu, Midway, Lord of the Rings, Kingdom of Heaven, Gallant Hours, 12 O'Clock High, Memphis Belle, Master & Commander, Enemy at the Gates
excellent list
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@@FactsVerse can't answer that, just can't. sling blade? titanic? sharkula? *grin*
Gentlemen, this is the best examination of a genre of film, as well as the most brilliant and reasoned list of great films I have ever encountered, ANYWHERE! I would only quibble by placing "Come and See" as the #2 war film of all time. Otherwise, I delighted in every one of the 34 minutes that you masterfully assembled. As primarily a pacifist, I have seen nearly every film you highlighted--and now have a list of MUST SEE "war movies", being the ones you listed that I have yet to see. If only more compendiums of this type conducted itself with the thoroughness and intellectual rigor and reserve that you have. Based on this video alone, I am becoming a subscriber now. Thank you!!!
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The Lost Battalion with Rick Schroder about US Troops in WW1 should be on this list!
Awesome video! Thank you; I have some film watching to do, lol, so many good movies, and none of them advocate war, which is a good thing.
An excellent selection. Of course you cannot include all the great war films, there are just too many. Audie Murphy's auto biographical 'To Hell and Back', 'Breaker Morant', 'The Battle of Austerlitz', 'The King of Hearts' are first rate additions, and like the opening scene in 'Private Ryan', the opening scene in 'Three Kings' is ultra realistic and disturbing.
Another person noted the lack of naval greats, but again there are so many worthy inclusions that this would have become a ten hour video of way more than 30 selections.
Thanks, this was definitely worth watching, and I will check out the seven of them that are new to me. 😀
I do not see either Hamburger Hill or When Trumpets Fade on the list and yet I would put both of those ahead of some of these on the list.
When Trumpets Fade is a highly under rated film.
When trumpets fade was better than several on this list, to me.
Das Boot, Master and Commander, Bridge too Far, Twelve O'Clock High, The Lost Battalion, War Hunt, Pork Chop Hill, and Stalag 17 . I do like your list. Apocalypse Now was amazing in the movie theater. I was 12 and it was a powerful movie to see.
One of my favorite war (cold war) films is The Bedford Incident, (1965) with Richard Widmark, Sidney Poitier, and Eric Portman.
I'm impressed!
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@@FactsVerse Do a tribute to Kris Kristofferson? I would really like to see what you come up with. Thank you.
Some great movies there & a few I haven’t seen but for me #1 is All Quiet on the Western Front 2022 shows just how mad war is better than anything I’ve seen
Guess maybe you didn't catch,"Catch 22". It was the first R rated movie I ever saw, I was with a buddy who was a direct decendent of Edgar Allen Poe, as was his dad. He took me and my buddy to his cabin in the Catoctin Mts, and let us shoot his M1 carbine, to break glass powerline insulators... was a wild weekend, circa 1970
Catch 22......great movie, great book.
Of all the Vietnam movies, one of my favourites remains Hamburger Hill.
It has some cheesy dialogue( as isn't uncommon in the genre)here and there, and didn't have the big budget, - it has a dated production style, - yet some of the characters and dialogue are great, and the battle sequences are pretty tight.Because it has no claim to being any "big statement" or attempt at cinematic artistry, it's authentic and direct on a different level.Almost documentary like.This is not to say that it doesn't have some truly beautiful and professionally well handled moments.
I'd definitely argue with the veracity of many of these choices.Good war films are as statistically rare as good horror movies , - which is ironic,- because the concepts with the easiest natural quantity of drama commonly aren't as thoughtfully treated.A good war movie should give you some idea of what it's like to be there, not just serve as a history lesson; that's the hard part.
War is an abstraction to most Westerners; we have opinions about Gaza, or the Ukraine without understanding the critical and fundamental human suffering involved.There is a danger in this, in having these disaffected opinions, in not being able to even imagine.
"The Big Red One" is a great one also
I saw "All Quiet on the Western Front" when I was 11 years old. Changed my life. When I was in the hospital a few years back and almost died one night, I had a hallucination of the whole movie but with muppets in the cast (the scene at the end in the crater was especially memorable) and with a 70's rock opera soundtrack. There was some weird sub-plot about one of the Brit's noble houses using the codes from another "lost" noble house to create propaganda about the war going better than it was, and one of the other houses figuring it out and having to prove it to everyone before they destroyed Brittain's international credibility. I don't know man, I was dying and that shit got super weird.
Fascinating!!!!
I don't think the Muppets will ever make a war movie !
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@@FactsVerse The same craftsmanship and care devoted to other great themes in fims.
@@bogtrottername7001 But then, no one expected the Spanish Inquisition!
No Stalag 17? It clearly belongs on this list.
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TWELVE O'CLOCK HIGH
FROM HERE TO ETERNITY
THE BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES
I saw no mention of In Which We Serve, Battleground, A Walk In the Sun, Hamburger Hill.
I'm really, REALLY glad you included Kelly's Heroes.
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Excellent movie!
Kelly's Heroes liberated gold for the common soldiers. 🙃🤣
@@vincentyeo88 Oh yes - I didn't see it until I was quite far along in life. A work colleague of mine found out I hadn't, and the next day he showed up with a DVD and pretty much forced it on me. I loved it right away. It was like a strange mash-up of a standard war film and a MASH-atmosphere war film. And Oddball will forever be my fave and just defines Donald Sutherland for me. 🙂 How could you NOT just totally love that guy?
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Excellent!
Thank you for the interesting information.
30 Glory (1989)
29 Full Metal Jacket (1987)
28 The Pianist (2002)
27 Paths of Glory (1957)
26 From Here to Eternity (a953)
25 Gallipoli (1981)
24 Sergeant York (1941)
23 Black Hawk Down (2001)
22 The Deer Hunter (1978)
21 Cross of Iron (a977)
20 Lawrence of Arabia (1062)
19 Platoon (1986)
18 The Hurt Locker (2008)
17 The Longest Day (1962)
16 The Bridge on the River Kwai (1957)
15 Cruel Sea (1953)
14 Battle of Britain (1969)
13 The Thin Red Line (1998)
12 Saving Private Ryan (1998)
11 Stalingrad (1993)
10 Flags of our Father (2006)
09 Defiance (2008)
08 Downfall (2004)
07 Apocalypse Now (1979)
06 Twelve O'Clock High (1949)
05 We Were Soldiers (2002)
04 Letters from Iwo Jima (2006)
03 Das Boot (1981)
02 Come and See (1985)
01 All Quiet on the Western Front (1930)
Great list. I mentioned “Battleground.” Do you think it could be squeezed in there, maybe 6a?
A fairly good list, but think 'Zulu' a glaring omision and probably deserving of a top 5 placement.
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Get rid of Kelly's Heroes and replace it with Catch-22. Exquisite photography and surreal dark comedy. Best War Movie ever.🏆👎👍🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
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There are at least two movies that should be added: "Das Boot" by Wolfgang Pedersen, and "Dien Bien Phu" by Pierre Schoendoerffer.
Gettysburg; it's why we're still here!
I agree and it is superb film
Big Red One. When the crazy guy in the nut house picks up a machine gun and starts shooting people and says" look at me, I'm sane, I'm sane".
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DRUMS ALONG THE MOHAWK, LAST OF THE MOHICANS, NORTHWEST PASSAGE etc. etc. etc. to name a few MORE GREAT MOVIES you all missed (?) - By the way I'm NOT MAD - I just love WAR MOVIES and I'm an OLD MAN who's seen a lot of WAR MOVIES (How about - IS PARIS BURNING ) ??
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the cruel sea, above us the waves, run silent run deep(probably the best sub picture ever made)
Everyone has their own list of the best war films of all time. Many of those mentioned here are undoubtedly included. But also: "Das Boot" (The Boat), "Der Untergang" (Downfall), "Many Wars Ago" (Uomino contri), "Stalingrad" (Stalingrad) from 1993, "Hacksaw Ridge" and "Captain Conan" (Capitaine Conan).
How in the hell is We Were Soldiers and Gettysburg not on this list???
Gettysburg was AWFUL.👎
@@linjicakonikon7666 you're in a very small minority group that didn't then.
I am a Vietnam Era Veteran, which means that I volunteered for the Army during the time off conflict but was not sent to Vietnam. This may inform some of my picks.
Not on any watch list for me from your list would be The Deer Hunter, The Hurt Locker, Full Metal Jacket and Apocalypse Now. There is a trend there for the curious.
I am heartened to see some of my favorite movies here. Especially high marks for Grave of the Fireflies. Glory was fabulous but may have been better still if the focus was more on Morgan Freeman and less on Matthew Broderick.
A few of my favorites perhaps someone else will find a good choice.
The Longest Month, Lawrence of Arabia, Empire of the Sun and too many to list films set in Iraq and Afghanistan. Just this week I saw Devotion and Fury. Emotions they evoked will require further viewing.
I will close with two wholehearted recommendations for King of Hearts and Foyles War. The later is not a movie, but simply must mention it.
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I agree with you except for Apocalypse now, which was never intended to be realistic. It is more like a bad acid trip recollection of outright madness.
From David A. Wood: In my opinion, your list is woefully incomplete as I think that there are four films that really should have ideally made your list of 30 Greatest War Films. The first one you have forgotten was Sam Peckinpah's only war film, the singularly violent, yet emotionally compelling masterpiece, 1977's "Cross of Iron." "Cross of Iron" was about two important topics. One, this, again, singularly violent film was about the eventually lethal, personality conflict between two distinctly different, World War 2 German Army soldiers. The first character being a war weary, yet indomitably capable Sergeant named Steiner who uses his acquired skills as a thoroughly battle-hardened veteran to keep the equally battle-hardened men in his squad alive, as much as he possibly can, as they are all progressively and thoroughly "put through the ringer" of the excessively brutal, wartime combat that occurred within the.mercilessly unforgiving Eastern Front of World War 2. Sergeant Steiner's ultimate foe would be his immediate military superior, an inexperienced, yet unabashedly arrogant, born-and-reared member of the august Prussian Nobility, German Army Captain Stransky. The insufferably arrogant and consistently self-serving Stransky is an entirely self-entitled man who will amorally do absolutely anything to "earn" Nazi Germany's highest military award, the vaunted Iron Cross, to reflexively maintain his "precious" family's supposedly honorable tradition of German Military service. Number two, "Cross of Iron" is also cinematically depicting the spectacularly violent, no-holds-barred combat that took place on the Eastern Front in 1943 as the increasingly outmanned German Army was steadily in the tragic progress of dangerously losing its epically conducted war against the USSR's numerically larger and martially resurgent Red Army. Finally, "Cross of Iron" was an unusual film in that the soldiers of the German Army were the main characters of the movie whereas in most movies about World War 2, the Allied Soldiers (usually British and/or American) are always the the protagonists and therefore the heroes. As such, the combat of Western Europe is always the venue shown in these particular movies because that was where those particular stories took place instead of Eastern Europe. Eastern Europe was where the majority of the German Army of World War 2 happened to have been engaged.
Two, another 1977 film that should have made your lengthy list was the mostly historically accurate and intellectually thoughtful film helmed by British director/actor Richard Attenborough. This momentous film was about the doomed "Operation: Market Garden" campaign that took in the Netherlands in September 1944. I am referring to the star-studded film, "A Bridge Too Far." If you were going to pick a World War 2 film about a military campaign that actually occurred, "A Bridge Too Far" should have been on your list instead of the somewhat hammy and cinematically bloated "The Longest Day." While "The Longest Day" required three international directors to create the film, "A Bridge Too Far," which was just as complex an undertaking, required merely one very talented director. Granted, the film was told by a mostly British perspective, thereby showing the British characters somewhat realistically while the American characters, on the other hand, were shown as stereotypically shallow "American" characters, the film still works. By the way, " A Bridge Too Far" is my fourth favorite War Film. What film happens to be my all-time favorite War Film? That would undeniably have to be Sam Peckinpah's previously mentioned "Cross of Iron!"
Two other memorable World War 2 films about the harrowing experiences of being a Prisoner of War (POW) also should have made your extensive list. They were director Billy Wilder's 1953 Comedy Drama classic, "Stalag 17" and the 1965 British dramatic film, "King Rat" which starred American actor George Segal. Compared to the more famous 1963 Action/Adventure-oriented, World War 2 POW film " The Great Escape," which still does hold up as a great film to watch, both "Stalag 17" and "King Rat" seem to be more humbly realistic in their storytelling and therefore are both more compelling to watch. The reasons why I thought that "Stalag 17" and "King Rat" should have at least both made the list alongside "The Great Escape" if not actually replaced that film on your list is because of their realistic lack of glamour and also more realistic characters. One film (Stalag 17) was alternately both a thoroughly entertaining "Black Humor" comedy detailing the daily lives of American POWs imprisoned in a World War 2 German Military POW camp and a compelling War Drama of slowly unmasking a POW traitor (USAAF Sergeant Price) while also gradually telling a story of eventual Personal Redemption of the film's main character, the initially detested, angrily cynical, yet ultimately heroic POW Camp "Black Marketeering Wheeler-Dealer," imprisoned USAAF Sergeant Sefton. Sefton eventually saves the recently captured and ingeniously hidden USAAF Bomber pilot, Lt. Dunbar from being a permanent POW by taking him along in an escape from Stalag 17. This was an escape that was successfully facilitated by the ingeniously sinister distraction created by Sefton's fellow American POWs when they vengefully shoved the eventually unmasked and ideally bound Price out of his prison barracks to be successfully shot to death by the POW camp's vigilant German guards, i.e. his own side! I first saw " Stalag 17" in its entirety on the night of Friday, December 3, 1976. Just so that the reader will know, this was exactly a week before my 13th Birthday.
The 1965 movie, "King Rat" is an equally riveting story that, like the earlier mentioned "Stalag 17," was shot in stark Black-and-White film. " King Rat" is about one, the lengths (either rightfully or wrongly) an enterprising POW (US Army Corporal King) is willing to go to in order to survive intact while imprisoned in a POW camp that was brutally run by the Imperial Japanese Army (IJA). Two, "King Rat" is also about the deep, yet seemingly unlikely friendship (King and British Royal Air Force Flight Lt. Marlowe) that can occur under those dismal conditions. Third, "King Rat" is about Military Styled-Social Class Conflict as Corporal King, a US Army enlisted man, is seen, albeit momentarily, as the top POW in an IJA prison camp populated by mostly British/British Empire POWs who were mostly all Commissioned Military Officers. King's somewhat morally dubious, yet rigorously hard-earned personal status as the most important POW due to his being an expert "Black Marketeering-type Prison Scrounger" thoroughly upsets the angrily jealous POW who also functions as the POW Camp Provost Officer, British Army Lt. Gray. Then lastly, the movie "King Rat" is about Irony, specifically portraying the quietly hostile King-Gray relationship. US Army Corporal King, who would normally be seen in any normal POW movie as a traitorous "Bad Guy" because of his flagrant and seemingly amoral collaboration with the IJA soldiers officiously running the camp, who by the way the movie-viewing audience never actually sees until the final section of the film, is actually portrayed as an entirely charming and intelligently resourceful man who ably alternates his necessary activity of "wheeling-and-dealing" with the enemy while unselfishly taking care of his fellow POWs, especially close friend RAF Flight Lieutenant Marlowe, while, on the other hand, the equally imprisoned British Army Lt./POW Camp Provost Officer Gray is portrayed as a power hungry/cruelly domineering man who, while he does not actually collaborate with the Japanese the way that King obviously does, uses his position of relative authority to forthrightly bully his fellow POW Military Officers, many of whom would normally militarily outrank Gray. All that having been said, these four films (Cross of Iron, A Bridge Too Far, Stalag 17, and King Rat) should have easily made your list of "Top Thirty War Films. Nuff Said and Peace Out from Kettering, Ohio, everybody. ☮️🇺🇲😃👋✌️👍
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When I was with an Armored Cavalry unit in Germany in 1972 I remember the NCOs had a comeback line if the troopers asked too many questions after the orders were already given. They'd say, "Why do you ask, you writing a book?" After reading the lengthy comment above I was reminded of our Staff Sergeant who previously served in the Polish Army. He had an accent. He would ask, "You write-um boook?" Ha Ha
Battle of the Bulge, Battle of Britain, The Enemy Below, Sahara 1943, Objective Burma, A Bridge Too Far, Pork Chop Hill, Green Beret's, The Bridge at Remagen, Dunkirk, 1917.
The Boys of Company C. Enjoyed that one as well.
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That film doesn't get nearly enough love, IMO.
@@Ogre6972 it really doesn't... it has everything connected to human emotions throughout. Humor being one I remember most. In a setting where heartache, terror and anger is prevalent the little bit of funny antics seems to be amplified.
What about Battle of the Bulg, Battleground, A Bridge Too Far, Band of Brothers, The Pacific , The Sands of Iwo Jima, the Flying Leathernecks, The Bridge at Toko Ri , Fury ???
Some other great war movies are The 7th dawn, lost command, Gung ho, Darby 's Rangers, anxious, the bridge at remaggen, A bridge too far, Lawrence of Arabia, the horse soldiers, the green berets, first to fight, custers last stand, the red badge of courage, run silent run deep, in harms way, midway, MacArthur, the Victor's, the devils brigade, von Ryan's express, the battle of Britain, none but the brave, cast a giant shadow, Shenandoah, the mountain road, she wore a yellow ribbon, the battle of the bulge, battle ground, the bridges at toko ri, flight of the intruder, the final countdown, and my favorite, To Hell and Back. B tw, I knew an airforce lt colonel the was in left stalag 3 where the movie The great escape happen. He was there a few months after that escape and successfully escaped himself. He went on to serve in Korea and Vietnam as a master navigator with 23 year's of service.
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Lawrence of Arabia is amazing!
"From Here to Eternity"
A postwar movie, "Best Days of Our Lives" is an even more powerful movie in that it depicts the post war affects on people's lives.
Doctor Zhivago was the first film I ever viewed on laser disk. Love Story was the second.
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The Battle of Britain, The Odd Angry Shot, Danger Close, The Lighthorsemen, Run Silent Run Deep, and Das Boot could all take there place here. But it’s a pretty good list. 👍🏻
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I'm not surprised that "das Boot" is not on the list. It's in a class of its own though.
No Catch 22?
How about Enemy at the Gates and A Bridge too far and Battle of the Bulge? Guess you should have made it top 50 and separated services. In the good and should be watched (obscure catagory) Dieppe!
Left out The Big Read One, the story of the 1st Infantry through two wars and three theaters.
Yes! I can't understand why The Big Red One is almost always overlooked. Perhaps the studio (for some reason) didn't get behind it enough?
For whom the bell tolls, they were expendable,Alamo,midway, pork chop hill, charge of the light brigade, Zulu.
Apocalypse Now is my favorite, but M.A.S.H. was iconic in showing Humanity vs. War. It's a US based view. Your choices are very respectable. 👍
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When I saw Apocalypse Now in the theater, Coppola was my favorite director, and I thought he had outdone Cimino and Stone for directing the best Vietnam War movie of all time...and I thought The Deer Hunter and Platoon were outstanding, very well-made movies. Then I saw Full Metal Jacket and transferred the mantle to Kubrick. I think it is underrated, especially the scene near the end where Joker struggles with the mercy killing and his comrades misinterpret his actions. Apocalypse Now still makes my top 5 for this list.
Schindler's List is my favorite movie and I think the best ever made in any genre, although if it is evaluated strictly on the basis of being a war movie, I can see it as low as it is.
Das Boot is conspicuously missing and must be a top 10 selection on this list. Like Schindler's List, we can question whether Downfall is a war movie, but if it is, it deserves a spot here as well.
The Iron Cross ... great portrayal of the horrors on the Eastern Front
No "Battle of Midway (1976)"? In my opinion, the best war movie ever.
I have to disagree with so many choices in the top 20.. so many better movies
They missed A Bridge Too Far. definite top 10
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I'm surprised you don't have Band of Brothers in there.
I do agree Apocalypse Now is #1. Favorite scene: Captain Willard was asked if where they were going is going to be "hairy." And, do you like it hairy?
Capt. Willard's response: "You never know who you are working in some factory in Ohio."
"When Trumpets Fade", "Gettysburg" and many more, but _most of all_ , "Stalingrad", are way better than some of the ones on this list.
Personally, the number 1 choice is horrible. "Apocalypse Now"? No way.
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I thought Stalingrad should have high on this list .. superb German production of the horrors of the battle of Stalingrad ..
@@ianchisholm9260 Absolutely. But the list is essentially American, and we Americans are notoriously bad at seeing things from the eyes of others.
"Enemy at the Gates" is nearly as intense in its opening sequence as "Saving Private Ryan."
Anyone mention Go Tell the Spartans - Burt Lancaster movie?
A fair list. I would include Das Boot and 12 O'clock High.....Oh! And Catch 22.
I was a Ranger in Black Hawk Down. I flew in BlackHawks and repealed down a rope to the ground . We thought it would just be a few hours , but it turned out to be much ,longer. It was a sick attack. The “Skinny’s “ were a bit sick with what they would do if they found a dead solider they would treat it like a rag doll. That’s one reason our motto was “No man gets left behind.” They had the real names of the men who passed. Who
Aid the Ultimate sacrifice! It really was hell Lisa friends are brothers getting shot about 10 feet away from us. The movie here has a few funny parts. We had to try to make light of things when we could just stop us from going crazy that’s the same any war..
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Well you can’t please everyone, but Das Boot deserves a spot.
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Agree with #1. But Breaker Morant should be in the list.
It left out one of the greatest war films -- Das Boot. This German movie is clearly greater than third-quarters of films on this list.
Gettysburg.
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Stanley Kubrick has 2 films on this list, both masterpieces. Two wonderful films not on this list, the 2017 British production Journey's End, and 2019 also British production 2017. The German 2022 production of All Quiet on The Western Front is superb.
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No way, A N is number 1. Too many great classics left out.
Excellent list; 30 is not enough. Without taking to the air, Zulu, 300, and Breaker Morant come to mind. However, the only war movie poster gracing my den's walls is a 4' x 5' French-version film poster of *Apocalypse Now* .
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To me, "Schindlers List" is not a war movie at all.
And next, where is "Das Boot" and "Master and Comander"?