It would be interesting if different emotions would give her different powers. Anger giving her the current power set. Love, jealousy, sadness, giving different powers.
You know Ernie... for some reason, this hit me harder than I thought. Maybe because I have a some fears-- for HER: The writers... let's hope the writers keep her on this track because I feel she could be the leader Xavier should have been. Because honestly... when I was growing up in the 80s I kinda hated her because of the grim reaper.
Honestly, feels like the last fifteen years has mostly served to separate her from Grim Reaper… aside from Chaos War. She’s got friends in Frenzy and is a mentor to characters like Oya and Bling! When you see her in stuff like the alpha flight comics in Acts of Vengeance, she’s having a blast without him.
Found out about this character from one of the Jordan Blok episodes of Cerebro. Nekra is iconic in many ways. Killing Dr Druid? I bet some avengers took her out for drinks. Making furniture out of the corpses of rapists and murderers? Dubious but I bet Selene would be into that. That fistfight with the second Vindicator? Love it. Nekra really is the Doja Cat of Marvel. Especially with her relationship to Grim Reaper. If you know why, you know why. I’m so glad that writers have her hang around people who aren’t either white supremacists or guys who want to use her like the Mandrill. The Mandrill is a character SOMEONE has to answer for. Much like how many writers mistake her for Albino even though her hair is black. Oh and the person that named her dad Buck and the Mandrill Jerome. If you know, then you know someone needs to be tried at the Haig. Not to mention Grim Reaper’s obsession over her. The point is that Nekra is one of the MESSIEST women in Marvel but I’m so happy that she’s getting better stories.
Sounds like Nekra needs a field trip with Auntie Roro and Uncle Max on Arrako. I feel like the Arraki culture and lifestyle would be the perfect environment for Nekra to Channel that Anger and Hatred into a Warriors conviction.
Glad to see some attention paid to an obscure Marvel character I've known about for a long time but no one paid attention to by yourself & the Marvel artists and writers who finally remembered she existed. Great video
She really didn't deserve the pit. They had more than enough room on the Hellions for her. Also do you happen to a Maggot video by chance I honestly want to know more about the character especially since he is black
Man I feel for Nekra I grew up in the Philippines in the provinces as a light skinned American kid and people definitely treat you a certain kind of way when you don't look like the majority.
Love your coverage of Nekra. I’ve been wanting her in the Xbooks for years! Can you please do videos on the following: LightBright and The BioGenes, Windshear, Pathway and Goblyn, Double Trouble, Ernest Scope, Radian and Tattoo, Angel S. , Bedlam Brothers. Midnight’s Fire and Silhouette, Fatale, Threnody, Derrick Beacon.
If I had a dime for every time a black girl has vampire feature that makes them look white, I would have two dimes which isn't a lot but it's weird it happen twice
Huh, ima a maroon and f around and find out is practically our national motto Yes we are actually legally a separate nation from the rest of Jamaica. It's kind of the same situation as Native American reservations.
Damn. Now let’s kinda want to know even more about Nekra. I’ve always been aware of her for years but didn’t even realize how deep down the well this goes. I’d be down to see her on a more proper team book cause I sure as hell don’t see enough unique characters of color like herself.
And I did love that she has other black women as friends, like Frenzy and Nekra. Only pointing that out because she’s been around guys like Grim Reaper for too long
I was delighted to see a video on Nekra, one of Marvel’s more interesting obscure characters, but we sure took ‘problematic’ out for a spin this week! Does the ‘angry black ….’ Stereotype count for someone who isn’t ’coded’ as black? You’d have to read the story to even know. One of Marvel’s most iconic characters gains his power from anger. Nekra, like Bruce Banner, has PLENTY of reasons for to be angry. Not a thought for WHY a black woman who’s experienced such rejection from black people might be gratified that ANYONE finds her attractive (although I agree with another commentator that most black Americans have a more nuanced view of color than is portrayed here. LOTS of us pass the ‘paper bag’ test! Maybe it was the fangs?)? That one panel of a little girl in tears was as heartrending a supervillain origin story as I’ve ever seen. What do you owe to people (most especially your parents) who have rejected you? I only find it ‘problematic’ that it’s never been explored more. I was delighted to see her return in ‘Sabertooth & the Marauders,’ especially since that story was one more nail in the whole concept of Krakoa. For her and Oki (a perfectly lovely girl) to end up in the Pitt, along with ANOTHER black character, Third Eye, whose ONLY crime was telling the truth? What a broken justice system. Walk free or go in the Pitt? I thought you also missed an opportunity to highlight something else that’s truly‘problematic’ in comics: Nekra is one of at least THREE black albinos in comics, along with Tombstone and DC’s Tobias Whale, and they’re ALL supervillains! Talk about stereotyping! Although Tombstone’s depiction in the PS4 Spider-Man game was actually pretty cool: he had true villainous virtues.’
With Nekra, it’s more that she feeds off of anger and hatred, hers and other people’s for her strength… which has meant that she’s been enslaved by the mandrill and been in a relationship with Grim Reaper. Unlike Tombstone and Tobias whale, she’s not albino in the traditional sense. It only affects her skin and eyes, bleaching them chalk white and leaves the hair. It’s not really an absence of melanin. More like a chemical bleaching but it has meant that writers mistake her for such.
This feels like good timing. There’s a video going around about a young woman identifying herself as a “quatrain” and getting ROASTED by the delegation.
They should lean into Nekra being a psychic-vampire, she "feeds off of"/manipulates other people's emotions for different effects, she can still draw power from her own emotions too. Hate makes Nekra super strong, fear makes her feral (claws and fangs) and despair makes her cloak or limited invisibility, happiness can make her weightless so limited flight or super leaping, love can heal here injuries. It could work in tandem with her voodoo magical abilities and further distinguish Nekra from other mutant vampires like Selen.
Her not being an albino is not the worst problem. Lots of white looking children are born from Black parents. happens. My dad is black and my grandma was white. I have white cousins, children of my black aunt. Ancestry plays a part in all of it. Children can take after their grandparents. Genetics are all over the place sometimes and that's okay
Unfortunately, artists haven’t been great with her. Literally, when he was writing the Sabretooth books, Victor Lavelle specifically reiterated to the artists that Nekra needs to have black facial features.
They should just say the emotion thing was a psychological thing from the situation that activated her x Gene. Give her some character growth and control over power.
@@damonpatterson8293 good point. That superstitious behavior over there might stem from some past situation but as far as American blacks, we embrace our Albino children
I think it’s better clarified later on in Sabretooth after it’s been made clear that Nekra isn’t Albino; her skin was insanely bleached from birth. Heck, her dad never thought she was his and he’d abuse both her and the mum.
Black people and voodoo is problematic to me. In 70's blaxploitation movies, it was very prevalent in many of those movies. It always made me feel uncomfortable.
Heck, Ann Nocentti did an interview a few years ago and, after leaving Marvel after stuff like her Daredevil run, she moved to Haiti to teach at a university on the island. And, since then, she’s witnessed several ceremonies. And it made her realise how misinformed so many people are and how easily widespread the misinformation is.
I think the podcast, Cerebro, put it best; Mandrill was based around awful stereotypes of black people that white people had. Meanwhile, Nekra was based on what white people thought were stereotypes of white people in the eyes of black people.
Thought Mandrill was MORE problematic....the man sociopathically views women as property and pleasure objects....sick as it was, Grim Reaper did LOVE her....say have you had Nightshade? Feel she is woefully underused and underestimated
It also doesn’t help that the Mandrill in the Daredevil issues, despite being white but born with black skin and eventually mutating a monkey head, refers to himself as a “white-black man”, And that the metaphor is pushed onto him in that story a lot where his mutation was a monkey head and the ability to enslave women via pheromones.
Please call people from India their correct name. I find it wild that we have to cater to others that become insulted by a term used for an incorrect group of people and now an ENTIRE country of millions "must" have an extra direction added so as not to offend. India was India and Indians were Indians before Indigenous people of the Americas were mistaken for them. Call us Indian!!!!
Being BORN different is literally what makes you a mutant, and she was born with her powers. A ‘mutate,’ like Spider-Man or the Fantastic Four is a baseline human who gains powers later. I remember her describes as ‘mutant’ even in the seventies.
@@jonbodhi Honestly, got to agree. It’s like how Fenris, despite having In utero x gene placement, they are still considered mutants. Nekra just has this activated at birth because of an extra thing.
It would be interesting if different emotions would give her different powers. Anger giving her the current power set. Love, jealousy, sadness, giving different powers.
That would be very cool.
I agree 👍🏿 💯
Indeed!
Think that’s what is happening in the Sabretooth books
that could be really fun!
You know Ernie... for some reason, this hit me harder than I thought. Maybe because I have a some fears-- for HER:
The writers... let's hope the writers keep her on this track because I feel she could be the leader Xavier should have been. Because honestly... when I was growing up in the 80s I kinda hated her because of the grim reaper.
Honestly, feels like the last fifteen years has mostly served to separate her from Grim Reaper… aside from Chaos War.
She’s got friends in Frenzy and is a mentor to characters like Oya and Bling! When you see her in stuff like the alpha flight comics in Acts of Vengeance, she’s having a blast without him.
Found out about this character from one of the Jordan Blok episodes of Cerebro. Nekra is iconic in many ways. Killing Dr Druid? I bet some avengers took her out for drinks.
Making furniture out of the corpses of rapists and murderers? Dubious but I bet Selene would be into that.
That fistfight with the second Vindicator? Love it.
Nekra really is the Doja Cat of Marvel. Especially with her relationship to Grim Reaper. If you know why, you know why.
I’m so glad that writers have her hang around people who aren’t either white supremacists or guys who want to use her like the Mandrill.
The Mandrill is a character SOMEONE has to answer for. Much like how many writers mistake her for Albino even though her hair is black. Oh and the person that named her dad Buck and the Mandrill Jerome. If you know, then you know someone needs to be tried at the Haig. Not to mention Grim Reaper’s obsession over her.
The point is that Nekra is one of the MESSIEST women in Marvel but I’m so happy that she’s getting better stories.
Sounds like Nekra needs a field trip with Auntie Roro and Uncle Max on Arrako.
I feel like the Arraki culture and lifestyle would be the perfect environment for Nekra to Channel that Anger and Hatred into a Warriors conviction.
Also, based on the Sabretooth comics, I am so happy that she has a friend group with Frenzy, Oya and Bling!
Glad to see some attention paid to an obscure Marvel character I've known about for a long time but no one paid attention to by yourself & the Marvel artists and writers who finally remembered she existed. Great video
I discovered her through the podcast Cerebro and she is… messy but more fun now.
The beginning reminded me of that story about the origins of “The White Devil”…
Glad she was able to find peace and a positive community
She really didn't deserve the pit. They had more than enough room on the Hellions for her. Also do you happen to a Maggot video by chance I honestly want to know more about the character especially since he is black
Man I feel for Nekra I grew up in the Philippines in the provinces as a light skinned American kid and people definitely treat you a certain kind of way when you don't look like the majority.
Love your coverage of Nekra. I’ve been wanting her in the Xbooks for years! Can you please do videos on the following: LightBright and The BioGenes, Windshear, Pathway and Goblyn, Double Trouble, Ernest Scope, Radian and Tattoo, Angel S. , Bedlam Brothers. Midnight’s Fire and Silhouette, Fatale, Threnody, Derrick Beacon.
If I had a dime for every time a black girl has vampire feature that makes them look white, I would have two dimes which isn't a lot but it's weird it happen twice
Yeah. I think she should still have afro textured hair at least.
Love these explainer vids!
Huh, ima a maroon and f around and find out is practically our national motto Yes we are actually legally a separate nation from the rest of Jamaica. It's kind of the same situation as Native American reservations.
Yup we under undrip adrip and ilo 169 I’m a American maroon myself bless up all maroons in the americas and world wide
Big up yourself Maroon.
Damn. Now let’s kinda want to know even more about Nekra. I’ve always been aware of her for years but didn’t even realize how deep down the well this goes.
I’d be down to see her on a more proper team book cause I sure as hell don’t see enough unique characters of color like herself.
She’s been in the Sabretooth books with Krakoan prisoners that have become the Exiles.
Lol, watching “wft, angry black woman trope much?” Then you said it!
Would be nice to see a series with Nekra and the pit Exiles onboard Jeffries Madison.
I kind of liked her dynamic with Oya in Sabretooth.
IMO, she got her just due in that series.
And I did love that she has other black women as friends, like Frenzy and Nekra.
Only pointing that out because she’s been around guys like Grim Reaper for too long
Nekra was someone I'd heard of but didn't pay attention to so thanks for covering this minor but no less important part of Marvel history
I heavily recommend the episode on her from the podcast Cerebro. It’s hilarious.
I was happy to see Nekra return
I was delighted to see a video on Nekra, one of Marvel’s more interesting obscure characters, but we sure took ‘problematic’ out for a spin this week!
Does the ‘angry black ….’ Stereotype count for someone who isn’t ’coded’ as black? You’d have to read the story to even know. One of Marvel’s most iconic characters gains his power from anger. Nekra, like Bruce Banner, has PLENTY of reasons for to be angry.
Not a thought for WHY a black woman who’s experienced such rejection from black people might be gratified that ANYONE finds her attractive (although I agree with another commentator that most black Americans have a more nuanced view of color than is portrayed here. LOTS of us pass the ‘paper bag’ test! Maybe it was the fangs?)?
That one panel of a little girl in tears was as heartrending a supervillain origin story as I’ve ever seen. What do you owe to people (most especially your parents) who have rejected you? I only find it ‘problematic’ that it’s never been explored more. I was delighted to see her return in ‘Sabertooth & the Marauders,’ especially since that story was one more nail in the whole concept of Krakoa.
For her and Oki (a perfectly lovely girl) to end up in the Pitt, along with ANOTHER black character, Third Eye, whose ONLY crime was telling the truth? What a broken justice system. Walk free or go in the Pitt?
I thought you also missed an opportunity to highlight something else that’s truly‘problematic’ in comics: Nekra is one of at least THREE black albinos in comics, along with Tombstone and DC’s Tobias Whale, and they’re ALL supervillains! Talk about stereotyping! Although Tombstone’s depiction in the PS4 Spider-Man game was actually pretty cool: he had true villainous virtues.’
With Nekra, it’s more that she feeds off of anger and hatred, hers and other people’s for her strength… which has meant that she’s been enslaved by the mandrill and been in a relationship with Grim Reaper.
Unlike Tombstone and Tobias whale, she’s not albino in the traditional sense. It only affects her skin and eyes, bleaching them chalk white and leaves the hair. It’s not really an absence of melanin. More like a chemical bleaching but it has meant that writers mistake her for such.
Perfect timing!
This feels like good timing. There’s a video going around about a young woman identifying herself as a “quatrain” and getting ROASTED by the delegation.
It’s 10 years old and the word is quadroon. It’s just now going viral
Lol not "wHHite!" 😅 that took me out
Thanks 4 monday banger chief.
They should lean into Nekra being a psychic-vampire, she "feeds off of"/manipulates other people's emotions for different effects, she can still draw power from her own emotions too. Hate makes Nekra super strong, fear makes her feral (claws and fangs) and despair makes her cloak or limited invisibility, happiness can make her weightless so limited flight or super leaping, love can heal here injuries. It could work in tandem with her voodoo magical abilities and further distinguish Nekra from other mutant vampires like Selen.
Hype for this. Thank you.
Her not being an albino is not the worst problem. Lots of white looking children are born from Black parents. happens. My dad is black and my grandma was white. I have white cousins, children of my black aunt. Ancestry plays a part in all of it. Children can take after their grandparents. Genetics are all over the place sometimes and that's okay
Always had a great look
Will Isca the Unbeaten be considered black?
Let’s go!!!!
Her hair is hella relaxed…gives the illusion she is white
I've known about Nekra since I was 14. From Spider Woman #16. Now I'm 56. But I didn't know she was a black woman until later...
Thank you so much
I first saw Nekra in Spider-woman #16. She looked as white as Jessica Drew and even her features were white.
Unfortunately, artists haven’t been great with her.
Literally, when he was writing the Sabretooth books, Victor Lavelle specifically reiterated to the artists that Nekra needs to have black facial features.
I always thought her white features were the result from the X-gene.
Some people speculate The Hulk is also a metaphor for black rage
I understand her skin being like that, but what about her hair? She should still have kinky hair so at least she'd still look somewhat black.
She is a sale out for life with being with grim reaper
I actually forgot Nekra had Black parents! Thanks, Ernie!
The name of her dad is… just feels wrong.
I'm confused. How is being an angry black woman worse than being an angry black person?
They should just say the emotion thing was a psychological thing from the situation that activated her x Gene. Give her some character growth and control over power.
I've never seen any black people have problems with albino people because of their complexion
Except in Tanzania, I believe. I think it has something to do with superstitions.
@@damonpatterson8293 good point. That superstitious behavior over there might stem from some past situation but as far as American blacks, we embrace our Albino children
@@B1salaam yup. That's true. I know a guy with an albino son. It's never been a problem over here in the U.S. as far as I know.
I think it’s better clarified later on in Sabretooth after it’s been made clear that Nekra isn’t Albino; her skin was insanely bleached from birth.
Heck, her dad never thought she was his and he’d abuse both her and the mum.
She was always drawn Black... but with white skin
Why did you make this comment?
THE PRIESTESS OF HATE!!!
White with a WHA 😂😂😂😂😂
nope plus mandrill NOPE NOPE NOPE
Mandrill and Nekra’s relationship with Grim Reaper… they’re both a big yikes.
Black people and voodoo is problematic to me. In 70's blaxploitation movies, it was very prevalent in many of those movies. It always made me feel uncomfortable.
Heck, Ann Nocentti did an interview a few years ago and, after leaving Marvel after stuff like her Daredevil run, she moved to Haiti to teach at a university on the island.
And, since then, she’s witnessed several ceremonies.
And it made her realise how misinformed so many people are and how easily widespread the misinformation is.
CRACKER BARREL WHITE......🤣, how is that not a paint at Home Depot
Ok😊
I thought she was based on the “White Devil” trope all of this time 😂
I believe Nekra is an albino, (hence her being “Cracker Barrel” white iirc), Don’t ask about her creepy brother The Mandrill
I think the podcast, Cerebro, put it best; Mandrill was based around awful stereotypes of black people that white people had. Meanwhile, Nekra was based on what white people thought were stereotypes of white people in the eyes of black people.
@@christopherbennett5858 that kinda makes sense. Mandrill also has an ability similar to Purple Man for hypnosis (hence why I called him Creepy)
@@christopherbennett5858That makes a lot of sense, I thought Cerebro hair looks like locs 😂
@@SuiteVII Fair. The Podcast is done by a guy since lockdown under the tagline “The show where a homo and his friends talk about Homo Superior”.
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So... Bugs Bunny was additionally problematic for saying, "What a Maroon¹" pejoratively.
¹ Spelling?
Sooooo? What point are you trying to make?
Maroon now means stupid or moron
She’s albino and loved a racist in Scarlet Witch & Vision second volume
Nekra is on bleaching like Beyonce and Nicky minaj
Nekra is cool
Ok
Thought Mandrill was MORE problematic....the man sociopathically views women as property and pleasure objects....sick as it was, Grim Reaper did LOVE her....say have you had Nightshade? Feel she is woefully underused and underestimated
It also doesn’t help that the Mandrill in the Daredevil issues, despite being white but born with black skin and eventually mutating a monkey head, refers to himself as a “white-black man”,
And that the metaphor is pushed onto him in that story a lot where his mutation was a monkey head and the ability to enslave women via pheromones.
Please call people from India their correct name. I find it wild that we have to cater to others that become insulted by a term used for an incorrect group of people and now an ENTIRE country of millions "must" have an extra direction added so as not to offend. India was India and Indians were Indians before Indigenous people of the Americas were mistaken for them. Call us Indian!!!!
Maaan shut yo lame a$$ up and watch the video or don't
Hey !! Fatality is not black, she's an alien, aliens are not white , Black nor asian
She wasn't originally a mutant, she's technically a mutate.
She’s from the time when the mutations were because of nuclear science and the like so that checks out.
Being BORN different is literally what makes you a mutant, and she was born with her powers. A ‘mutate,’ like Spider-Man or the Fantastic Four is a baseline human who gains powers later. I remember her describes as ‘mutant’ even in the seventies.
@@jonbodhi Honestly, got to agree.
It’s like how Fenris, despite having In utero x gene placement, they are still considered mutants.
Nekra just has this activated at birth because of an extra thing.
@jonbodhi if that's the case, Franklin Richards would be considered a mutant.
@@cosmicghost811 I think we need a stiff drink before getting into Franklin again
Shes black?!?! She was my favorite character, well until now😢