Thats one of the biggest problems in people's minds that we try and compare the West with Pakistan. You cannot compare the two. It isnt a fair comparison. The West is the West and Pakistan is Pakistan. Having spent a better part of my life here in the US and Canada (~40 yrs), I still say Pakistan with all its issues is still better for us Muslims. Allah SWT give us all a correct understanding. Ameen.
Very rightly said. I also believe that comparing a developed country with a developing one isn't necessarily the right thing to do. But in this case there is a caveat that we shifted from the latter to the former so a comparison is drawn naturally at times..👍
Jazakallah for sharing this video and all your other videos! I am born and raised in the US and planning on moving to Pakistan with my children. The small details you have shared have helped immensely. I am actually quite happy that you give the pros and cons comparison of Pakistan and the Western world because even though its like comparing oranges and apples, it is giving people like me an opportunity to take on such a huge step. Its not about comparing the 2 countries but more about preparing for the differences. Many of our ancestors left Pakistan for a better opportunity for the sake of their children and today we are faced with challenges and having to make tough decisions hoping to do whats best for our children. My children are a bit older and we are collectively nervous and excited for this new chapter in life. Sometimes even moving from one town to another can is tough. I appreciated the happiness vs time chart that you drew, its very simple but puts the basic into prospective. Ultimately, happiness is key! I pray Allah gives us all guidance to make the best of decisions!
Thanks again for your feedback and support. It really encourages us to see that the effort is helpful. We would agree with you 100%. Comparison is only for perspective here not in absolute terms so that people who are thinking about the move become more aware mentally regards the challenges they may face 🙂. At the end if the day its the brain that is the master👍 As far as the kids are concerned I would definitely advise that they should be taken on board slowly and steadily...so that the difference in perception is minimized
And one more thing, jis bachay ko parna hay wo kahin bhi parh lay ga. Whether it is in the top private school or in a barn yard. I myself have put my kids in both public schools as well as private schools and also islamic schools. Made no difference. What makes the most difference is we as parents have to take an active role in our kids education, both religious as well as secular. We do our part and leave the rest in Allah's hands. InShaaAllah all will work out. But i agree with some other comments on here, that kids will most definitely mimic what they see their parents doing. Those are the best life lessons. Do good and InShaaAllah good will come your way.
Brother, please can you comment on whether the pakistani schooling your children are receiving is very different to the U.K. ? Is it a 10kg school bag, children get tons of homework, you have to constantly tutor your children and help them with extreme pressure? Or have things changed?
School bag can be heavy on certain days as compared to others but we from the very beginning started using the trolley school bag because that eliminates the need to carry. Homework is given on a daily basis but is manageable and actually is helping with making them responsible. In this school children are not very strictly reprimanded for missing a homework ( the way it used to be in our times 😁). We are managing the tuition aspect ourselves and mostly happens around times of routine tests and examinations
The problem with sub continent is only good to visting but living parmannently is difficult and nono, In UK things are so simple because you don't have to pay school fees, and get student loans when in unvercity. The problem we are very sentimental. In Pakistan only money talks in every which way's. Lot of tempering gone with education book's and kid's are always complaining.
The reason why Im thinking to leave England and move to the country where majority is more Muslims because we Muslims these days specifically Pakistani British Muslims are facing a lot of racism over here in England, we don’t involve in any trouble, we work hard and follow every rule n regulation of England, I don’t want to leave from England I love England but because of situation is getting worse in the uk on us coloured people I just want me n my wife n kids safe.
@@sharykog4520 yes it is difficult to stay in this kind of situation... however, I would still advise you to keep assessing the situation for the next few months and see if things improve. On the other hand if you have decided to make the move then try and see if you have a financial plan like a remote job , business or local business...baqi Allah will Insha'Allah guide you 👍👍
It has been 2.5 years now.... actually a main hindrance against switching are the kids themselves because of their friendship with their class fellows...overall we are still satisfied so far
please move schooling tab and other section/topic tab slightly on top or middle of screen sometimes if we are watching on laptop with standard youtube size the topic gets lost plus if we put mouse on bottom edge of screen even then topic gets lost so good to have topic tab somewhere near top
I still don't get it that why we Pakistanis are always so overly concerned about their kids schooling. I live In Canada and often see fellow Pakistanis immigirating from Pakistan or Middle East always posting questions about schooling on our FB group. Their haven't even got on a plane yet but wants to know "what's best neighbourhood with best schools?". When you ask them to explain what do they mean by 'best' schools? They have nothing but some stupid explanation. If a kid is not good at studies, it's not always schools fault and it doesn't mean the kid is not bright. Not everybody is good at everything. I was not a good student either but I was good at other stuff, but Pakistani parents, unfortunately, treat their kids like they're in horse race. Where does it say that best schools produce the best students or best human beings? I had seen people studied from govt. schools in Pakistan and have been extremely successful and overall, been a better human being than lot of people studied in cambridge system. I understand that everyone has different opinions but in my opinion, we're trying to create humans who're book smart but not street smart. We're busy making them a money making machine. The sole reason of getting education is not to being educated, but how we can make more money and this is how we choose our careers. Not by interest, but by how much it pays.
I agree with many if your points but as far as we are concerned...the definition of the best school is one that is able to assess the aptitude of our child and gives him confidence in pursuing that track while at the same time giving them basics of our culture and religion 🙂
Your children have been going to Westminster School for one year. After taking into account the points that you have raised, would you still send them to the same School? I visited Westminster School a couple of weeks ago to do some on the ground research but because students had gone home, I only got to see tbe facilities.
I think given the progress that has happened...on average I would still send them to Westminster...there are adminstrative areas where I feel they can definitely improve but curriculum and cultural orientation wise it is still providing a good balance between liberalism and conservativeness while still being an international school. Mostly importantly the kids are happy so far...👍
Insha Allah i am working on plan to move. But outcome of ur discussion, base for education is very important, and souds luke u saying that u could have stayed for uk school to do Primary school. 😀
Not me, it's Nida's view. I think coming after primary would pose more of a challenge given that the kids would need to adjust on many fronts as opposed to coming earlier if possible 👍
Bhai ,how is your experience so far in unfriendly pakistan? I am a british citizen and I have moved back 15 months ago from England and I see most people here are unfriendly . How you see it?
@@drteeka7883 yes, I have a video on an experience I had when going for a bill correction 😁...this is is real and hits you quite a bit in the beginning when you relocate but overtime you manage your expectations... that is what I did...👍
@@hassanrafiquebrother, what I understood is that " time is a great healer" 😄 since I am here, I didn't even open a bank account nor have phone SIM in my name, and don't have any plans to buy any property here, that includes any vehicles. It's because I don't want to have any contacts with anyone, it can bring unnecessary stress. On a side note, I have not driven a car any single time since I am here. I am comfortable riding a motorbike because by now I have learnt all the badtamiziyan how to filter bad traffic.
@@drteeka7883 😁 yes, the reality is that the more quickly you learn to adjust yourself instead of fight the system the faster will you get used to it...of course deep down you still are not satisfied but at least perfection is not in your mind all the time
Hassan how can i connect with you ? A linkedin profile can help as well. As a gikian i want to discuss few things with uou regarding relocating to uk as my company is planning to start its operations in uk. Let me know if i can connect with yoh,m
@@hassanrafique good for you. Whenever i go back to Lahore i just cannot adjust to the weather, lack of public services, corruption and everything requiring some sort of sifarish.
@@venlafaxinedomperidone8377 woh maslay tau hain...end main one has to decide k woh kahan khush hay ziada...best case is k one has business dealing abroad while they stay in Pakistan (in case they are happy otherwise..like me)...warna day to day dealing main the issues you mentioned can be extremely discouraging and disappointing 👍
@@hassanrafique True! I feel more relaxed and comfortable in the UK. I feel I get everything modern here environment, consumer goods, efficient govt services, safety, cleanliness, tolerant society. But all this comes at a cost. Can't get everythign but if you have money and a reasonable social circle, there is nothing like UK. Pak is good too if you have money but you will struggle with a lot many comforts i mentioned above. Some people will talk about the comforts of Pakistan and their whole point of argument is that you have house help available but they can't negate the above mentioned points
Not yet Bro 😁...on a serious note so far so good but yes UK quality of life comparisons are becoming more common but I don't think we are regretting it 👍
@@BasitAmjad yes it would make sense to see how the current landscape changes in the next 3 - 4 years in your case...by that time they would be done with university too 👍
Nice videos 🌹. First of all with all respect Just sharing my views Plzz never compare Pakistan level with any other countries You all r very lucky that you have come back on right time Still late but ok I have notice mother is not that happy to be back from UK Kids n u r quite happy n trying ur best to adjust keep everything goes right n adjust fully n healthy living , Uk passport n living Was whatever u all were n will be second citizen When u both went n settled was a good time Now it's very hard n further things r going to be very very insulting n Hard for all Muslims in western Countries , Rest u know it very well Don't compare. But be thankful To ALLAH. That u have come back In right time ,. Father u r great n very understandable But mother is quite. Imature comparing the level When things in western will rise high for hating Muslims N they will attack n insult Muslims then compare level n remember your country n then u all will rushing back to ur country , Very sad to see this video U both shouldn't compare the level of Pakistan , Mother need n wants to go back With this comparing method u can never adjust n can't brought up kids or adjust them properly Every western country is going to be unsafe n second citizen for ur kids U have spend ur lives It's not ur time , focus on politics n condition of world Its Ur kids time - Rest u know. It's just my point ofview thanxs 🌹
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Thats one of the biggest problems in people's minds that we try and compare the West with Pakistan. You cannot compare the two. It isnt a fair comparison. The West is the West and Pakistan is Pakistan. Having spent a better part of my life here in the US and Canada (~40 yrs), I still say Pakistan with all its issues is still better for us Muslims. Allah SWT give us all a correct understanding. Ameen.
Very rightly said. I also believe that comparing a developed country with a developing one isn't necessarily the right thing to do. But in this case there is a caveat that we shifted from the latter to the former so a comparison is drawn naturally at times..👍
Jazakallah for sharing this video and all your other videos! I am born and raised in the US and planning on moving to Pakistan with my children. The small details you have shared have helped immensely. I am actually quite happy that you give the pros and cons comparison of Pakistan and the Western world because even though its like comparing oranges and apples, it is giving people like me an opportunity to take on such a huge step. Its not about comparing the 2 countries but more about preparing for the differences. Many of our ancestors left Pakistan for a better opportunity for the sake of their children and today we are faced with challenges and having to make tough decisions hoping to do whats best for our children. My children are a bit older and we are collectively nervous and excited for this new chapter in life. Sometimes even moving from one town to another can is tough.
I appreciated the happiness vs time chart that you drew, its very simple but puts the basic into prospective. Ultimately, happiness is key!
I pray Allah gives us all guidance to make the best of decisions!
Thanks again for your feedback and support. It really encourages us to see that the effort is helpful. We would agree with you 100%. Comparison is only for perspective here not in absolute terms so that people who are thinking about the move become more aware mentally regards the challenges they may face 🙂. At the end if the day its the brain that is the master👍
As far as the kids are concerned I would definitely advise that they should be taken on board slowly and steadily...so that the difference in perception is minimized
Where is the happiness vs time chart?
Thanks for the review videos - some great honest information from both you and your wife's perspective. All the best!
Thanks for your appreciation 👍
I appreciate that the content isn't rehearsed and it's a genuine debate.
Thank you for your appreciation 👍. That is generally my motto and it is very motivating to see viewers acknowledging that aspect
Thanks for sharing my brother Allah Pak apko apki family ko slmt rkhy 🤲 always
Great to see you are still enjoying. Wish you another successful and joyful year in Pakistan
Thanks a lot Masood. I am hopeful for the same too 👍
And one more thing, jis bachay ko parna hay wo kahin bhi parh lay ga. Whether it is in the top private school or in a barn yard. I myself have put my kids in both public schools as well as private schools and also islamic schools. Made no difference. What makes the most difference is we as parents have to take an active role in our kids education, both religious as well as secular. We do our part and leave the rest in Allah's hands. InShaaAllah all will work out. But i agree with some other comments on here, that kids will most definitely mimic what they see their parents doing. Those are the best life lessons. Do good and InShaaAllah good will come your way.
We are a family in UK, i am pak origin, my wife is Russian. We also want to relocate to Pakistan,
Plan it out, especially financially. It is less stressful that way 👍
Ap ki baatain bht informative hai differences hain ljin pakistan best hy deen ky liye to pakistan best hy we are also planning to relocating pakistan
Thank you for your appreciation 👍
Brother, please can you comment on whether the pakistani schooling your children are receiving is very different to the U.K.
?
Is it a 10kg school bag, children get tons of homework, you have to constantly tutor your children and help them with extreme pressure?
Or have things changed?
School bag can be heavy on certain days as compared to others but we from the very beginning started using the trolley school bag because that eliminates the need to carry. Homework is given on a daily basis but is manageable and actually is helping with making them responsible. In this school children are not very strictly reprimanded for missing a homework ( the way it used to be in our times 😁). We are managing the tuition aspect ourselves and mostly happens around times of routine tests and examinations
The problem with sub continent is only good to visting but living parmannently is difficult and nono,
In UK things are so simple because you don't have to pay school fees, and get student loans when in unvercity.
The problem we are very sentimental.
In Pakistan only money talks in every which way's.
Lot of tempering gone with education book's and kid's are always complaining.
It’s not about being sentimental.everyone has different priorities .
The reason why Im thinking to leave England and move to the country where majority is more Muslims because we Muslims these days specifically Pakistani British Muslims are facing a lot of racism over here in England, we don’t involve in any trouble, we work hard and follow every rule n regulation of England, I don’t want to leave from England I love England but because of situation is getting worse in the uk on us coloured people I just want me n my wife n kids safe.
@@sharykog4520 yes it is difficult to stay in this kind of situation... however, I would still advise you to keep assessing the situation for the next few months and see if things improve. On the other hand if you have decided to make the move then try and see if you have a financial plan like a remote job , business or local business...baqi Allah will Insha'Allah guide you 👍👍
You guys speak perfect urdu with heavy accent in English what make you come to pakistan
I agree with Hassan. What he is saying makes more sense to me. I don't think not taking children to trips are detrimental.
Good information
Thank you for your feedback 👍
Now that it's been one year, would you consider changing school to Roots or Ace Academy etc?
It has been 2.5 years now.... actually a main hindrance against switching are the kids themselves because of their friendship with their class fellows...overall we are still satisfied so far
please move schooling tab and other section/topic tab slightly on top or middle of screen sometimes if we are watching on laptop with standard youtube size the topic gets lost plus if we put mouse on bottom edge of screen even then topic gets lost so good to have topic
tab somewhere near top
Thanks for your feedback. I will keep this in mind for future videos. Will see if I can add subtitle for this one which shows topic of discussion 👍👍
I still don't get it that why we Pakistanis are always so overly concerned about their kids schooling. I live In Canada and often see fellow Pakistanis immigirating from Pakistan or Middle East always posting questions about schooling on our FB group. Their haven't even got on a plane yet but wants to know "what's best neighbourhood with best schools?".
When you ask them to explain what do they mean by 'best' schools? They have nothing but some stupid explanation. If a kid is not good at studies, it's not always schools fault and it doesn't mean the kid is not bright. Not everybody is good at everything. I was not a good student either but I was good at other stuff, but Pakistani parents, unfortunately, treat their kids like they're in horse race.
Where does it say that best schools produce the best students or best human beings? I had seen people studied from govt. schools in Pakistan and have been extremely successful and overall, been a better human being than lot of people studied in cambridge system.
I understand that everyone has different opinions but in my opinion, we're trying to create humans who're book smart but not street smart. We're busy making them a money making machine. The sole reason of getting education is not to being educated, but how we can make more money and this is how we choose our careers. Not by interest, but by how much it pays.
I agree with many if your points but as far as we are concerned...the definition of the best school is one that is able to assess the aptitude of our child and gives him confidence in pursuing that track while at the same time giving them basics of our culture and religion 🙂
Well said brother
Watching again to make sure I have not missed any points.
Your children have been going to Westminster School for one year. After taking into account the points that you have raised, would you still send them to the same School? I visited Westminster School a couple of weeks ago to do some on the ground research but because students had gone home, I only got to see tbe facilities.
I think given the progress that has happened...on average I would still send them to Westminster...there are adminstrative areas where I feel they can definitely improve but curriculum and cultural orientation wise it is still providing a good balance between liberalism and conservativeness while still being an international school. Mostly importantly the kids are happy so far...👍
Insha Allah i am working on plan to move. But outcome of ur discussion, base for education is very important, and souds luke u saying that u could have stayed for uk school to do Primary school. 😀
Not me, it's Nida's view. I think coming after primary would pose more of a challenge given that the kids would need to adjust on many fronts as opposed to coming earlier if possible 👍
Brother can you do a 2024 school update? How do u feel now?
I will try and do so Brother
Bhai ,how is your experience so far in unfriendly pakistan? I am a british citizen and I have moved back 15 months ago from England and I see most people here are unfriendly . How you see it?
Thanks for your question Brother. What do you refer to as bein unfriendly? Is it customer service you are talking about?
@@hassanrafique yes , customer services in government sector specially, even in private sector I experience lack of professionalism
@@drteeka7883 yes, I have a video on an experience I had when going for a bill correction 😁...this is is real and hits you quite a bit in the beginning when you relocate but overtime you manage your expectations... that is what I did...👍
@@hassanrafiquebrother, what I understood is that " time is a great healer" 😄 since I am here, I didn't even open a bank account nor have phone SIM in my name, and don't have any plans to buy any property here, that includes any vehicles. It's because I don't want to have any contacts with anyone, it can bring unnecessary stress. On a side note, I have not driven a car any single time since I am here. I am comfortable riding a motorbike because by now I have learnt all the badtamiziyan how to filter bad traffic.
@@drteeka7883 😁 yes, the reality is that the more quickly you learn to adjust yourself instead of fight the system the faster will you get used to it...of course deep down you still are not satisfied but at least perfection is not in your mind all the time
I wonder in pakistan students go till university, but in foreign countries student leave after school 🤔
Yes, it is Very common for Students in Pakistan to complete university in search of a better future ( aim is generally to go abroad) 👍
@@hassanrafique
Then being pakistan is more good,
Good call 🤙
Brother slmt rhyn ap 🤲 always
Thanks a lot for your wish 👍
Why did you can back from UK to Pak reason?
I have a video explaining that.. Thanks 👍
Pls link sharing that
@@dataworld-information th-cam.com/video/Rs-sGRZX2KM/w-d-xo.html here is the link to that video. Many Thanks 👍
Make video about UK, how was.your experience with family.
@@dataworld-information thanks that is a good topic. Will plan something 👍
Bhai saman kaisay move kya household crockey pls guide kardain
Meri kuch videos already hain is topic pe... hopefully aapko useful hongi
Thanks Bhai link bhe share kardain
@@Mghanabro here is the link th-cam.com/video/mcF_-Qj4iEQ/w-d-xo.html Thanks
Hassan how can i connect with you ? A linkedin profile can help as well. As a gikian i want to discuss few things with uou regarding relocating to uk as my company is planning to start its operations in uk. Let me know if i can connect with yoh,m
Here is my linkedIn Brother www.linkedin.com/in/syed-hassan-usman-rafique-228021104
@@hassanrafique thanks
Thori dair mein tang aa kar aap wapis a jayein
Umeed hay k aysa na ho... filhaal tau sab theek hay Allah ka Shukar...agay time k saath saath we will assess the situation 👍
I hope NOT
@@hassanrafique good for you. Whenever i go back to Lahore i just cannot adjust to the weather, lack of public services, corruption and everything requiring some sort of sifarish.
@@venlafaxinedomperidone8377 woh maslay tau hain...end main one has to decide k woh kahan khush hay ziada...best case is k one has business dealing abroad while they stay in Pakistan (in case they are happy otherwise..like me)...warna day to day dealing main the issues you mentioned can be extremely discouraging and disappointing 👍
@@hassanrafique True! I feel more relaxed and comfortable in the UK. I feel I get everything modern here environment, consumer goods, efficient govt services, safety, cleanliness, tolerant society. But all this comes at a cost. Can't get everythign but if you have money and a reasonable social circle, there is nothing like UK. Pak is good too if you have money but you will struggle with a lot many comforts i mentioned above. Some people will talk about the comforts of Pakistan and their whole point of argument is that you have house help available but they can't negate the above mentioned points
Guys you are regretting going back to Pakistan. It is evident from your body language
Not yet Bro 😁...on a serious note so far so good but yes UK quality of life comparisons are becoming more common but I don't think we are regretting it 👍
@@hassanrafique I am trying to convince myself not to come back :-) so trying to hear it from you guys LOL. one of my kids is about to go to uni so
@@BasitAmjad yes it would make sense to see how the current landscape changes in the next 3 - 4 years in your case...by that time they would be done with university too 👍
Nice videos 🌹. First of all with all respect
Just sharing my views
Plzz never compare Pakistan level with any other countries
You all r very lucky that you have come back on right time
Still late but ok
I have notice mother is not that happy to be back from UK
Kids n u r quite happy n trying ur best to adjust keep everything goes right n adjust fully n healthy living ,
Uk passport n living
Was whatever u all were n will be second citizen
When u both went n settled was a good time
Now it's very hard n further things r going to be very very insulting n
Hard for all Muslims in western
Countries ,
Rest u know it very well
Don't compare. But be thankful
To ALLAH. That u have come back
In right time ,.
Father u r great n very understandable
But mother is quite. Imature comparing the level
When things in western will rise high for hating Muslims
N they will attack n insult Muslims then compare level n remember your country n then u all will rushing back to ur country ,
Very sad to see this video
U both shouldn't compare the level of Pakistan ,
Mother need n wants to go back
With this comparing method u can never adjust n can't brought up kids or adjust them properly
Every western country is going to be unsafe n second citizen for ur kids
U have spend ur lives
It's not ur time , focus on politics n condition of world
Its
Ur kids time -
Rest u know.
It's just my point ofview thanxs 🌹
I think you have completely missed the point of the video and his target audience! 🤦♂
re-watch the video bro . you seem confused
Urdu bolo bhai jan or baji jii english bolne say admi koi bera ni hota