Enneagram: Is Being A 4 Like Waking Up From The Matrix?

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  • @wildist
    @wildist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    I'd say it's more like the experience of Neo before he wakes up in the Matrix. Something's missing or wrong but you don't know what, so you're searching. Is it the world that's broken or is it me? Nobody else seems to be missing it, but you're longing for something - some truth or deeper, more meaningful experience, and envious of others who don't feel the way you do and can just enjoy life. Going beyond the analogy, you unconsciously hang onto longing and feeling different as an identity. You can't conform to the group/the masses because you'd lose what little identity you have created by being different.

    • @twlahue
      @twlahue  4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Great insight.

    • @annekruger1942
      @annekruger1942 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      This is how I felt since I was a child. Remembering situations in schoolbus to kindergarten, at the playground in school and now at the beach with my husband and child. I pause, walk away a few steps and feel that weird feeling of disconnection. Am I really here? Is that all real? Where else am I supposed to be?
      I always wondered, if I am the only humen beeing with feelings like that.

    • @vilesleftnostril.4704
      @vilesleftnostril.4704 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree

    • @beyondlimitationsvideo
      @beyondlimitationsvideo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Wow, I completely agree with what you wrote, Wildist!

    • @samo9900
      @samo9900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      thank you

  • @quietvalerie1
    @quietvalerie1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    As a 4w5 id agree. I spend so much time in a fantasy world and I have to constantly question my perceived reality. And almost no one can see the world like I see it.

  • @epscaling
    @epscaling 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    That’s exactly what it feels like!!! And I agree with the comment below it’s like we were born into the Matrix but free from it. Like we have the thumbprint of the memory of the real world we came from and were thrust into this shell of a reality. And it’s really hard to understand why we have to be plugged into it. It feels inauthentic and like we are constantly being pushed to live a lie. The only reason I would want to be plugged in is to help more people unplug.

    • @julielarotta9812
      @julielarotta9812 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I couldn’t agree more! It’s exactly how I feel too 😱😱

    • @samo9900
      @samo9900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thank you

    • @dDod2012
      @dDod2012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Free🎈 is the word.

  • @seanabunana963
    @seanabunana963 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I feel like fours are connected on an internal, very deep, and often, unconcious level to our origin story. Like we are the only ones to remember on some level what it was like to be forged in that perfect love, what it was like to feel agape love, to feel holy, untainted joy. We FEEL our humanity. Our mortal costume. We feel the weight of our fall from Eden more than any other type. It's not supposed to be like this, everyone seems ok with this, functioning under these parameters.. Why can't we? We have heaven's light gilded like a sliver lining on our backs. Intuitively, we remember, but can't see it or find it no matter how deeply we search, and that is a constant source of devastation.

    • @Emilia-hm4sv
      @Emilia-hm4sv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love what you wrote. Beautifully said.

    • @moonchild2140
      @moonchild2140 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you for this 🙏🏿

    • @dDod2012
      @dDod2012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Truthfully said

    • @dDod2012
      @dDod2012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i began to express this to my outside world " i feel i meant to be loved i was promised to be loved and happy and this isn't my reality " but still i enjoy life and find moment of love and joy .. i just can't understand hatful people.

    • @samanthajo5841
      @samanthajo5841 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is so true. 🥺

  • @sarahcouture24
    @sarahcouture24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Totally feel that way! Like you see the truth of reality and everyone else just is caught up in illusions. They can never see what you see, they prefer to be deceived. They don’t wanna look at the ugly truth, so they bury their heads in the sand. Us fours not only stared strait in the eye of the unpleasant reality, we painted an artists rendition of the emotional impact of this truth, created a portrait of it, and also wrote all about it in our journal with the most dramatic descriptive adjectives you will ever read lol

    • @princeofcrystal6573
      @princeofcrystal6573 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is sooo me as well xD

    • @sarahcouture24
      @sarahcouture24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@princeofcrystal6573 ah, my fellow 4 tribe! Hey 👋

  • @jaclynevans4869
    @jaclynevans4869 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    4w5, this is so dead on. I’ve felt this since a very young child.

    • @closepin
      @closepin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Feels beautiful to know we’re not alone

  • @bmav007
    @bmav007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    This resonates 1000% for me. Being a 4, I always felt I was “chosen” or “the one” in some way. Special and intelligent enough to see things no one else could see and think and few more deeply than anyone else. While everyone sat around chatting about nothing my mind was looking beyond trying to find the reason for it all and the greatness I am meant to achieve.

    • @daniellesdocuments4154
      @daniellesdocuments4154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What’s wrong with us?

    • @LMNNT
      @LMNNT 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@daniellesdocuments4154yeah what's wrong with us?

  • @motionless333
    @motionless333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Yes, it does absolutely feel like you're waking up from The Matrix. Especially if you've had emotional trauma in the past and now are on the path to integration.

  • @tracicoxcocchi2904
    @tracicoxcocchi2904 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    The "noticing what's missing" instinct in 4's does sorta connect with the Matrix theme.
    Makes me think of the song "My friends are Robots" by Arrested Youth...
    Personally the Matrix screams 9 to me. 😜 They have such a conflicted fight within themselves, a push/pull to "sleep or not to sleep"...
    4's were never born in the Matrix I mean, just sticking with the analogy,...
    From some of my earliest childhood memories, I recall lying in my bed as a child by myself, intensely staring at the details of the patterns of the wood frame so hard that it almost looked like they were swirling and moving, and wondering to myself, "Am I really real? Why am I "ME" ...and NOT somebody else?"...
    I describe it to my family and friends that it's like we're emotionally autistic. Our emotions are like huge heavy boulders that sit on our chest,...over our heart, but they are alive. They are living breathing taskmasters,...and they DEMAND to be addressed. Like taskmasters. This is why 4's many times feel ENSLAVED to their emotions. Like they must dutifully submit to acknowledging, addressing, processing and serving their emotions until they are appeased. So they can move on. 4's most definitely wish to move on. They definitely would love to accomplish and be good citizens. Must their heavy, weighing emotions, (especially if they are processing grief or trauma) demand and bully the 4 to 'pay penance' and dutifully serve the emotion until it settles. This is why I've talked with many 4's who many times described feeling paralyzed. Almost like 6's have panic attacks of fear. 4's have shame attacks. We can be literally frozen into emotional paralysis when facing situations that require confidence, a measure of trust in our own competency, etc.
    I would say there are movies that represent 4'ness 😛 for lack of a better word, and Matrix sort of holds an idea, but I mostly think it more closely represents being a 9. 9's yearn to wake up and FACE their own aliveness. And in the Matrix there were NPC's that were trying to force everyone to go back to sleep so to speak and I feel that 9's face that internally. The desire to not face reality, to go back to sleep.
    The Truman Show speaks to me as a 4. His sense that everything around him was staged. Not real. And to choose his own life. To not live a fake life for the sake of or for the entertainment of others. But to find his own way, his own meaning,...and his persistence and determination is admirable and heroic to many 4's who despise their own lack of confidence to find their own way that is meaningful to them.
    The Wizard of Oz also paints a picture of a girl being trapped in a dream that holds her back from reality, whilst having the keys "to wake up" all along. Her search for the Emerald City, is like a 4's search for their Significant Identity... The evil witch who condemned her, the inept wizard who was incompetent and failed her, the curious and wandering/scattered dog who distracted her, these were parts of her own inner self she projected in her nightmare and it was when she realized her own competency could she wake up and realize she was Home all along...

    • @twlahue
      @twlahue  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is great insight. I might use that Truman show idea in a video. Thanks.

    • @zachselin5257
      @zachselin5257 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yea I feel this is really accurate as a type 4. I definitely agree that us 4's don't have anxiety attacks like 6's and the like, we are paralyzed when we are bombarded with shame of past mistakes or a situation we don't know how to deal with.
      Also agreed on the Truman show, I related to that so much watching it.
      The part about questioning reality and related - I feel that it was on my mind so constantly (or at least similar questions about why I'm different, what's this world for, etc) at such young ages that I've already thought through it all. It doesn't give me any worry anymore. Whenever some friends of mine struggle with those questions, I can't quite relate because I'm so used to being so far past that. They get anxiety from thosr questions and want to change the subject, where I'm very comfortable and calm exploring things they find extremely disturbing.

    • @Jaseynth
      @Jaseynth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Damn girl, that was a great post, i like what you said about the Truman show especially in the sense of seeing through the facade of mundane life, it was especially painful as a youth to have no understanding or desire to participate in what seemed so pointless and obviously contrived, and usually for their own selfish gain. So yeah, 4's are always portrayed as elitists but when all the chatter over things which strike us as petty or superficial and choose not to participate, then we are stormy and dramatic. However as i got older i did finally learn the value in things like small talk and simple compliments, they open the door to a conversation and unfolding of a relationship. I think one thing about 4's in general is we are typically so starved to connect with someone on a deep level especially if they seem like they could go as deep as you like to swim, then we rush into it and it's way too fast for other types. So slowing down and not having to make every interaction an intense, deep and personal one, no matter how much effort went into getting out and interacting with the world that day, is definitely worth it.

    • @appletree6898
      @appletree6898 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm a 4, and the childhood experience you describe at the beginning of this passage is so similar to my own that it genuinely shocked me.

    • @Selam-fr4lf
      @Selam-fr4lf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Holy sh!t... I’ve had a form of that thought repeating my ENTIRE life, why am I me and not someone else? This is too uncanny...

  • @julielarotta9812
    @julielarotta9812 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You nailed it right here! I’m a 4w5 and maybe that’s why I’ve been on the path of following the white rabbit and going down a rabbit hole with ease even if it has not been easy. This finally helped me understand the world from a different perspective and why I didn’t fit in. So yes, The Matrix movie is something I can definitely identify with

  • @j.robertson9025
    @j.robertson9025 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is a very interesting way of putting it. My earliest memory is one that I believe might be from infancy (just my mother's face looking down at me in my cradle). My next earliest memory is one of me writing my name for the first time in preschool, and the uncanny feeling that it wasn't really my name and that I wasn't really the little girl writing it. The only way I can describe it is like lucid dreaming. I felt like I was dreaming, I *knew* that I was dreaming, but just decided to go along with it. Every so often, I get the same feeling as I did in that memory and I think, "Why am I still here? Why haven't I woken up yet? This has all been going on a long time." Perhaps that's why 4s can sometimes be obsessed with death. Death is the ultimate "waking up" experience.

    • @miacarter8740
      @miacarter8740 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same! I feel like I’m an actor playing a character except I have no idea who the actor underneath is and I don’t know why I’m playing a character

  • @emanuelaneagu1260
    @emanuelaneagu1260 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Spot on! The Matrix is my favorite film. So much of our world doesn’t make sense - capitalism, religion, etc. We’ve created ideologies and societal rules that have trapped us. As a 4, it can drive you mad to watch it all and feel outside of it yet depressed that you’re part of it. The recent Joker also spoke to me. Very different circumstances and plot than Neo’s but similar themes.

  • @mrs.reysolo2601
    @mrs.reysolo2601 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is amazing! I have recently realized that Matrix closely resonates with my own story and then I found this video and Im a type 4. I feel the universe is lining up for me to have a personal transformation.

  • @annamariemadai3381
    @annamariemadai3381 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    🤣 I just saw the title and started dying laughing! Such a good comparison as a 4!
    What I’ve found helpful is staying true to myself and my extra awareness and I’m honest with my friends about what I feel and experience and see 😳 and it’s actually made those relationships stronger 🥰
    Kinda just took a leap of faith and accepted that’s who I am and if I want close friendships I need to be me 🤷‍♀️

  • @jaclynevans4869
    @jaclynevans4869 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    My husband is a two and all my best friends have been 2’s. I think I appreciate they in their health can go to the emotional depths with me and I don’t feel “weird” with them, I feel more seen

  • @jessicakugler1394
    @jessicakugler1394 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    For me, I'm a four, it's totally the truth. I have the feeling that fours see humans and the world more objectively, outside the matrix. And from this perspective you see what you call the "darker side" too, the dark feelings and aspects of human. Because of the conditioning we lost the connection to the soul and therefor the darker sides begins to exist. It's not bad, it's just the natural result of the lost from expressing the soul. So when I ignore this side, I split myself. So for me it's the right way to see this side and working on this dark aspects of life, to find the soul potential behind it. When I just compensate this or ignore it, I ignore myself. So I have no fear going there but I think fours tend to hang on this side to much, as an illusion to get to the soul. The right way is in my opinion to be energetically completely naked, so I see myself hole and objectively, that is important so we can work on our base and soul expression instead of compensate this darker emotions, what follows when we ignore them. So for me it's not bad and free from condemnation, more necessarily to wake up from the matrix.

  • @richardbaer711
    @richardbaer711 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm a four and I would say that it's more like realizing that we live in a simulation.

  • @shuajogrove7758
    @shuajogrove7758 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this is hilarious! the matrix is probably my favorite movie of all time. it was life changing for me in so many ways. opened me up to a lot of world views, cultures, religions etc. alice in wonderland the original animated is a favorite as well. and yes i deeply deeply felt like i related to neo and alice

  • @allisona9490
    @allisona9490 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great analogy. I was a really sensitive kid. I had a decent amount of friends until my parents got divorced. I did mostly feel not as good as a lot of people and would lose friends from acting in regards to those feelings.

  • @sistercookies
    @sistercookies 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    YES. I was just telling my friend today that i feel like this voice in my head is speaking to me about architecting a new “reality bubble” that is a wholly new reality. I keep hearing “wake up!” It feels to me like there’s a reality just beyond my ability to grasp that is calling for me, waiting for me to flesh it out. It can feel like losing a grip on this reality but can also feel like a courageous leap into the unknown, a willingness to let go of the familiar in order to experience something transcendent. This was before breakfast. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @WackadoodleMalarkey
      @WackadoodleMalarkey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Unsolicited book recommendation because I feel it's most apropos: Loserthink by Scott Adams. Fairest warning you'll get. Either your experience immediacy fizzles into an overcooked nothingburger served up by a straight-up-crank, or you're in for quite a ride if my humble 594 experience has been any indication. 😸 *Disembodied Chesire Cat laughter intensifies*

  • @melzius1111
    @melzius1111 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Absolutely waking up from the matrix! As a child and young adult I couldnt really connect on a deeper level with other people. I really longed for deeper connection but most people were not on that level with me. It made ne feel different and lonely. I even got burned out and depressed at some moment because i was trying to fit in with being ordinay and mundane like everyone else. My burn out was a blessing because I had a profound experiance that change my whole perception of me and all humans on this planet. When I told other people about my experiances they would find it awkward and even say it is bullshit and dousn't exist. Im so glad my own curiousity was much stronger than what every body else thougt what was right and truth. I became my own sceintist and engineer. Investigating myself. Who am i. What makes that I feel and see things so different than most people i am in contact with. What does it mean to be a human on this planet. How does a human being operate. Why do i do things and act the way i do. Observing thougts and feelings and playing with my mind and challenging my perception of things. For me doing these things makes life very interesting and even magical some times when i discover new things! That is deep material for many people and many people just cant see abd understand things from my level of perception. Its not ordinary conversation. Not many people do these things. That makes me extra ordinary in relating to most people i know. By diving this deep within myself i learned much and with the knowledge i gained i now connect much easyer with other people than before. Although they still can find me awkward and different. So yess, i can exsperience my life like waking up from the matrix, just like the movie. But that is ok!

    • @omokok1877
      @omokok1877 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's your instinct variant?

  • @greenbean97
    @greenbean97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm a 9 and I feel this way, which probably makes sense since we kind of live in your own minds most of the time. I see life as a grid of green numbers most of the time, whereas most people have gotten used to ignoring the code.

  • @ecoyoshimi
    @ecoyoshimi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dr. Tom! You are definitely on to something with the matrix analogy (and loved your character analysis of Elsa in Frozen!!!! Love and relate to her so much- her world just didn't understand 😂😂)

  • @Salvador_S
    @Salvador_S 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4w3. Oh yeah
    This is the best analogy I've heard and it helps me to understand my experiences

  • @andreaaguilar1295
    @andreaaguilar1295 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It does feel like that. Part of a challenge that I have going on for me is trying to "integrate" within that fakeness to be productive and do the things that I want. Break that bubble of alienation that I tend to create for myself. It's an ongoing process. Of learning to be flexible but also staying true to myself.

  • @larsdrakblod240
    @larsdrakblod240 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Yes, i totally agree with your 4-friend, the feeling of being an freak/outsider for sure is relatable with the Matrix, being able to see through peoples games and shallowness...
    /4w5-SO/INFP-T

  • @tove_and_war
    @tove_and_war 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    yes i cannot express just how good of an analogy that is. as a 4 during social situations, sometimes im able to disconnect and see the room and all these people having fun, and suddenly as im gone i feel the world leaving me, like i tapped back into my own head and can no longer enjoy the present. Like its missing, im sort of waiting for a deep conversation with someone to be able to say "okay so im not the only one"

  • @JonasAnandaKristiansson
    @JonasAnandaKristiansson 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Couldn't resonate with me more as a 4w5 or 5w4!

    • @deelight4183
      @deelight4183 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      same here being a type 4w3 this analogy hit home for me.

  • @DrydenMontessori
    @DrydenMontessori 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yes, it’s a spot-on analogy. I’m a 4w5; Matrix occurs to me as an accurate documentary. ; )

  • @mn5900
    @mn5900 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    to fit in means not to understand the TRUTH and at the same time to understand the Four-type person. thats why we hate it when everyone fits in this shallow society. it hurts us not to be understood by anyone. we lack connection to the point that it kills us. like a child disconnected from a mother. sometimes death seems like a less painful option .

    • @dDod2012
      @dDod2012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ' to fit in means not to understand the TRUTH ' well said

  • @crazeekids9744
    @crazeekids9744 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I grew up in the 80’s and 90’s when your whole entire world revolves around conformity. We all dressed the same, did our hair the same way, talked about the same things, had the same hobbies......For me, as a type 4, it was ruuuuuuuf. My oldest child is a type 4 and I am so happy for them that they live in a time where individually is being more embraced by culture and society as a whole.

  • @africanzungu7350
    @africanzungu7350 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'd say it's closest to gnosticism, where you have these constant revelations about the underlying nature of reality and you see how most of what occurs is in this sphere of culture/illusion. I don't see that sphere as useless and empty though, it's just a different way of being and integrating that "gnosis" into a open minded community is one of the best things about having that form of awareness

    • @SpiderDiscord
      @SpiderDiscord 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As a 4 - and believer in Gnostic Christianity - I can deeply relate.

  • @heleneverheyen1640
    @heleneverheyen1640 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve always felt this way I can’t believe you just put it into words

  • @cattomeowempire
    @cattomeowempire ปีที่แล้ว

    Guys, missing piece is unconditional love and acceptance of our parents. You all know deep down

  • @cherylwilliams4793
    @cherylwilliams4793 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of my all-time favourite movies. And yes, totally resonates for me!

  • @kerrikrizer
    @kerrikrizer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think that’s exactly what it feels like for 4s that have delved into the process of individuation/integration… I totally agree with Wildist in that my life completely felt like Neo’s before he woke up from the matrix for most of my life. Its been a continual process of “waking up” from the programming of feeling that something is missing or wrong. I have learned that those heavy feelings also possess many gifts, should we chose to use them as fuel for self actualization. They help us to see beyond the limits of our current paradigm or societal structure, to create new systems. I think the quote by Rumi “the wound is where the light enters” is a beautiful summation of the journey of the 4 ❤️

  • @slesfitch
    @slesfitch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    YES. It resonates! I think Baudrillard said something like, Disney World is more real, than what we think of as real, because at least it knows it's pretending. That always resonated me, and now that I know I'm a 4 it could be because 4's strongly desire authenticity.

    • @twlahue
      @twlahue  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the comment.

  • @cherishtheday2223
    @cherishtheday2223 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I actually have woken up from the Matrix. I feel different because I have gone through breakdowns and healing which has caused me to realize that we all have worth just from existing. I began just existing and doing what I wanted until I became depressed again. I felt like I was so separated from the majority because I saw how people are buzzing around like busy bees trying to, on a base level, achieve things that are baseless, surface level, and completely unnecessary. I had to find a way to integrate back into society because I felt disconnected. I realized that I would rather do something with my life and be useful than to just exist, because where’s the fun in that? Also buttressed by some beliefs that we can all impact the world and contribute to change. That’s the space that I’m functioning from now.

  • @charlottefrank2677
    @charlottefrank2677 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes it definitely resonates! 😁That's how I feel oftentimes, like I am living in a different universe (guess I am 4w3, self-preservation). Thanks for your work!

  • @recreateyoulifecoachingand3874
    @recreateyoulifecoachingand3874 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes totally resonates with me. I was like a square peg trying to force myself into a round hole. People around me wear masks to fit in and don't care about meaning or purpose. Pursuit of meaning and purpose helps you find your shape in the world. I since developed my own model of coaching called the SHAPE UP model

  • @veronicapatino7184
    @veronicapatino7184 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Accurate description of E4.

  • @iWaveKatie
    @iWaveKatie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel as though I commented when I first read this -- it blew my mind the second time again. Yes -- exactly what it's like to be a 4.

  • @karinjahn-walter5846
    @karinjahn-walter5846 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I (4w3) do so much agree with the statement of Lisa Zoria: "I think they (4s) feel more outside of society rather than outside of reality.".On the one hand, I sometimes wish for nothing more than simply being able to be in the normal life of others. Basically, I don't judge "normal life" negatively, that's probably because I've become a lot gracious in the past few years. Only then I
    think it could still be optimized and more meaningful. That's why I then try to get my "suggestions for improvement" closer to others .... Overall, I tend to suffer from my intense feelings and yet I often turn deeper. it's pretty ambivalent.
    If I would name a film person with whom I could identify when my feelings become realy strange , it would be Karen Blixen from "Out of Africa" in the scene, when she dances on the beach with Denys Finch Hatton before they seperate and she says something like: "If it already hurts unbearably, then I go a little bit further to experience that I can take it too "

  • @soleahrayne
    @soleahrayne 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes, that is a good analogy for me as a Four.

  • @joyshokes4786
    @joyshokes4786 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Noooooo, Reality is rich and deep. Hard and beautiful. But, I long, as a believer, for Naria!! I think the dream life may occupy a younger or less healthy. However, in an uncomfortable or boring conversation I sometimes have to decide, is it appropriate to checkout or tell someone ( family or loved one) , that I’m struggling to pay attention. Sometimes I’ll have them repeat a sentence, sometimes I need to apologize, but with awareness of my propensity for tendency, I can hold on to a conversation for more time. I have a neurological factor ( irregular brain wave pattern). I’m sure it contributes. But , being able to acknowledge , hey I’m starting to loose track( because I’m stuck on something they mentioned earlier or became side tracked) is huge growth for me.

  • @tazmrm0373
    @tazmrm0373 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes 🙌
    Absolutely 💯. I wish to have a party to celebrate 4s-how awesome that would be to hang out together and make it a real event where we could commiserate

    • @twlahue
      @twlahue  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sounds great!

  • @lisazoria2709
    @lisazoria2709 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Actually, I think type 5 relates more to the "waking up from the matrix" feeling, especially 5w4. At least, I can speak from my own experience as a five with a four wing. Maybe primary fours feel that way too, but my objective nature as a five makes me feel more detached, sometimes so completely outside the world that reality itself becomes surreal and abstract, more concept than construct. I'm not sure most fours detach from reality as completely as fives do, I think they feel more outside of society rather than outside of reality.

    • @twlahue
      @twlahue  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good point. wow...

    • @zachselin5257
      @zachselin5257 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea, I think you have to have 5w4 or 4w5 to have this. But I've also seen a lot of type 5's that put so much faith and pride into "facts" that they really aren't questioning things manner that we're talking about. They're collectors of facts and tidbits, to attempt to secure themselves, but they don't really question fundamental things because "science has already proved X", or whatever they cling onto for faith.

    • @sarah-anneperry6932
      @sarah-anneperry6932 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I am a 4w5 and I totally agree with what you are saying. But on the other side, since my 4 is dominant, the reason I also tend to detach is because of the amount of things I feel. When I look around me, the way people are behaving is indicating me that they don't seem to pick up sensory information as much as I do with their anthenas. So yeah, the feeling of being part of the matrix can be activated in both ways.

    • @JonasAnandaKristiansson
      @JonasAnandaKristiansson 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This comment!! Totally relate, but I wouldn't be sure even till this day if it's 4w5 or 5w4 for me. Seems like 5w4 at least for a while now, and this couldn't be more true.

    • @JonasAnandaKristiansson
      @JonasAnandaKristiansson 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sarah-anneperry6932 OMG, yes!!!

  • @parkerbarhorst856
    @parkerbarhorst856 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    4w5… 13 on.. I started seeing things a bit differently. Pretty good way to compare it!

  • @Aliacesatori
    @Aliacesatori 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bro yes. this is exactly what its like. I constantly feel like im walking through a sea of faceless people who don't know who they are or what life is. Because I have a rampant existencial interest in metaphysics, life origins, and the fabric of reality, I tend to have unique perspective (as every four does) on life. because of this however, I both feel extremely special to have such an awareness, but so misunderstood, unseen, and somewhat alienated by the general consensus of the population.
    In layman's terms I feel like im Neo and im the only one who knows its the matrix and everyones so deep in it.

    • @twlahue
      @twlahue  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's great to connect with someone who shares such deep thoughts and perspectives on life.

  • @kathrynpotter7574
    @kathrynpotter7574 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, it is for this type 4. Conformity is repulsive. (Not to be confused with loving cooperation.) Attempts at manipulation are highlighted when it hits the radar.

  • @latoyiab79
    @latoyiab79 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm sick of being a 4 tbh. 40 yrs not sure how much more I can deal.

  • @IslandKidsYoga
    @IslandKidsYoga 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Yes!!!!! Definitely

  • @ElectroDrives
    @ElectroDrives ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a 4w5, it definitely feels that way. However, I think every type has a sense of being in The Matrix. But most other type are okay with taking the blue pill and being a part of the "rat race". Whereas, as a 4 taking a blue pill inherently feels like distancing ourselves from within just to adhere to society's way of living.
    Every type is a smart individual who realise this reality, but for them that sense of individuality isn't that important, hence the red pill seems like a pointlessly kamikaze approach to live an endlessly solitary life, because most wouldn't take this route, so why be lonely in the process.
    Until recently, I used to think no one was seeing this reality. But this year I have been practicing to be an observer of myself within society from a bird's eye view. And this helps me to see everyone's movements objectively, including myself. I think everyone knows they are stuck in the matrix, but they are okay with that. 4's struggle with the idea of being stuck, especially in a routine that does not feed the soul. That eternal soul-searching. Tbh, I think a vagabond, traveller lifestyle is the best way for a 4 to live.
    Idk, I'm rambling, but this is my perspective haha

  • @paulam5864
    @paulam5864 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes- one of my FAVORITE movies- I am a 4 and I do feel like we live in The Matrix😬

  • @Thewatermystic
    @Thewatermystic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I resonate with type 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 8. That's why I don't really get the enneagram/think it's accurate. I grew up with an emotionally immature parent, who I also suspect was a narc (type 3/1 core wounds). I was parentified (type 2 core wound) and had childhood emotional neglect (5,8,6 core wounds). Then. I'm an HSP,(highly sensitive person) so I resonate with 1, 4,, 5, and 6.

  • @cassidyfix2708
    @cassidyfix2708 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have recently gotten into this, as I am a type 4 and interested in learning more about myself. The people I tell say, "saying youre simply a type 4 just puts you in a box." Does anyone have a comment on this? How much can we base on our result to guide us???

  • @burnbabylonburn78
    @burnbabylonburn78 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Short answer: Yes.
    Long answer: Yyyyyeeeessss!!!!

  • @RavingElectron
    @RavingElectron 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you don't like that colour personally, I'd suggest that you repaint your wall. Teal's a very odd colour to have it painted on the wall.

  • @akpenguin1859
    @akpenguin1859 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes I have literally thought about people ‘they’ve chosen to take the blue pill (or whichever one)’ and live sort of in ignorance but not necessarily in a bad way, just not what I would choose. I’m a 4w5

    • @akpenguin1859
      @akpenguin1859 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And this is why the Matrix had always been one of my favorite movies

  • @gregoryritchie7852
    @gregoryritchie7852 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is "matrix" concept same as the term I've seen: "maladaptive daydreaming", a form of dissociation? Similarities and differences?

  • @morgyndanaewellness
    @morgyndanaewellness 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely but I can only speak for myself. There's a constant awareness and seeing through situations and people as well as looking at things from a very different angle than what is expected or agreed upon by The Matrix. But maybe other enneagrams also experience this.

    • @twlahue
      @twlahue  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks

  • @compulsiverambler1352
    @compulsiverambler1352 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Haha, I think this video got recommended to me because I watch Enneagram videos and I listen to the song The Matrix by Mother Mother, quite a lot, and it's funny, the song IS about that kind of feeling, and Four has always been my top guess for the songwriter of the band, from interviews, behind the scenes videos and various lyrics. MAYBE a Six.

  • @JTL2884
    @JTL2884 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Plato is the poster boy for type 4 not type 1

  • @romemem1256
    @romemem1256 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect comparison

  • @freedove.gabrielle
    @freedove.gabrielle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oui c'est exactement ça ! Parfait, tu essaie de percer le mystère de la Matrice pour te libérer et atteindre le Vrai. :)

  • @peterkaramazov6586
    @peterkaramazov6586 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    854 as a treetype,and i resonate with much of that,especially in my childhood. Still do at this moment.

  • @lakehairdontcare3398
    @lakehairdontcare3398 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Geez spot on 4W5 🎉❤

    • @twlahue
      @twlahue  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the shoutout! Good to know you're enjoying the content.

  • @Daeva83B
    @Daeva83B 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I replied to a another video of yours.
    There i said that i felt that everybody else around me (most people anyway) are lost.. to say it crude and rude (i know you are a Christian and i like to tease :p) They are believing in 'false' gods :p
    Think brands, careers, being popular and etc... i feel like a lot of people put that first in their lives. Me, i put those thinks last or.. its not even on my list of what i find valuable to pursue. Being Christian (a spiritual journey) makes more sense to me, even though i despise religion in general. (Believe what you will, i do the same ;) )

  • @MsChristianD
    @MsChristianD 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Resonates big time!

  • @Loenthall88
    @Loenthall88 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In short: yes, it is.

  • @m.s9146
    @m.s9146 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes. But it’s ok. I wouldn’t be any other way. But I’m also an INTP so must be wing 5. Big secret of INTPs is their ability to feel deeply and profoundlythen put those feelings aside.

    • @rimoumamari7346
      @rimoumamari7346 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was wondering whether my brother was an infp or intp but I kind of dismissed the T because I know he can feel things quite deeply... But he did not match with being an infp. So you guys can be 4's!

  • @mollyfreeman1674
    @mollyfreeman1674 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spot on and im 4w3

  • @RebeccaErlewein
    @RebeccaErlewein 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could you please add an ENGLISH transcript? Because the auto-generated one is in Italian, which is a load of gibberish, because you weren't speaking Italian...

    • @twlahue
      @twlahue  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow, didn't know that...

  • @phillyssanangelo4582
    @phillyssanangelo4582 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    4w3 Amen to comparison w/ Matrix

  • @TheRealJaded
    @TheRealJaded 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Feels like I'm surrounded by NPCs most of the time.

  • @Nick_Taylor.
    @Nick_Taylor. 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Neo's "tritype" is the truth-teller -- the 468

  • @larrycheek3588
    @larrycheek3588 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gurdjeiff explains it 🥳

  • @healingmycreativity
    @healingmycreativity 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So much so.

  • @MsCrown_Jules
    @MsCrown_Jules 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yup... precisely...

  • @bugjustine
    @bugjustine 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    HELL, yes. (4w5)

  • @marciaburgee9171
    @marciaburgee9171 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely

  • @positive1027
    @positive1027 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Agreed 4w5.

  • @nothingisnotbad5877
    @nothingisnotbad5877 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Movie Matrix is definitely documentary.
    It is not a science fiction😅

  • @danab172
    @danab172 ปีที่แล้ว

    REALLY.

  • @cl8045
    @cl8045 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe 5’s feel this way too?

  • @AceHardy
    @AceHardy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    💻📱

  • @ashleyching3166
    @ashleyching3166 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    4w3, and this analogy just doesn't make sense for my experience.

    • @ashleyching3166
      @ashleyching3166 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmm, maybe it could if I see society's structure as inefficient and unnecessary...

  • @runningupthathill7
    @runningupthathill7 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is your type? Im 6

    • @twlahue
      @twlahue  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      At 6, it's all about having fun and making friends! What do you like in a buddy?

    • @runningupthathill7
      @runningupthathill7 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@twlahue you haven't answered me XD

  • @karinjahn-walter5846
    @karinjahn-walter5846 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    4 times so sorry..

  • @manifest2963
    @manifest2963 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a 9w4 and I've always felt like this. I thought it was normal growing up but now that I'm older it's kind of obvious that the majority do not.

    • @twlahue
      @twlahue  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly.

    • @kc201310
      @kc201310 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can't be a 9 with a 4 wing 9s only have 8 and 1 wings

  • @lothekitty1327
    @lothekitty1327 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m a 4w5, ermm, my opinion on this is that this is just the 4 wanting to be special, feeling different & ‘not fitting in’. Come on. I think this sort of 4 needs to wake up, this is real life, not a movie. & all of you 4s, including me, need to stop focusing on ‘feeling different’, because are you really that different though? We all have common basic needs, need to eat, sleep, socialise. Wake up 4, you need to integrate with community, remember to add value & spend less time in your head. Stop wanting to be special.

    • @SPdisneypinsmerchfood
      @SPdisneypinsmerchfood 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I definitely feel that way but idk if it's because I'm a 4. I long to take the blue pill for blissful ignorance because I feel so alone but then I find it cool that I took the red pill and am awake. Who knows?

  • @karinjahn-walter5846
    @karinjahn-walter5846 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I (4w3) do so much agree with the statement of Lisa Zoria: "I think they (4s) feel more outside of society rather than outside of reality.".On the one hand, I sometimes wish for nothing more than simply being able to be in the normal life of others. Basically, I don't judge "normal life" negatively, that's probably because I've become a lot gracious in the past few years. Only then I
    think it could still be optimized and more meaningful. That's why I then try to get my "suggestions for improvement" closer to others .... Overall, I tend to suffer from my intense feelings and yet I often turn deeper. it's pretty ambivalent.
    If I would name a film person with whom I could identify when my feelings become realy strange , it would be Karen Blixen from "Out of Africa" in the scene, when she dances on the beach with Denys Finch Hatton before they seperate and she says something like: "If it already hurts unbearably, then I go a little bit further to experience that I can take it too "

  • @karinjahn-walter5846
    @karinjahn-walter5846 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4 times so sorry..