This is a really good video. After watching this video and others, and preforming the procedure on my 2011 Sienna with 124,000 miles, I have a few comments to share. When I first drained the fluid I got out about 2 quarts 10 ounces and refilled the same and checked the level according the all the procedures, which resulted in my conclusion that the original level was overfilled by about 15 ounces. After the doing the 2nd drain and fill about 2,000 miles later, I noted that the fluid didn't seem much clearer I decided to pull the pan to see if there was much sludge, and I changed the filter at the same time. When I pulled the pan, I got another quart plus10 ounces out. The way the pan is designed to accommodate the measuring straw, the pan holds a lot of fluid even when the plug and straw is removed. There was not much sludge and the two magnets where not bad. When I removed the filter I got almost another quart out The Long and short, is I put a full gallon back in and drained out less than 2 ounces after following the procedure of getting the pan to 115 degrees and removing the plug while the vehicle was running in park. Removing the pan and changing the filter greatly increases the amount of old fluid swapped out for new. The cost for the gasket and filter was about 25 bucks on Amazon. The pan is easy to remove with the exception of one bolt that requires a thin 10 mil box end wrench and some patients. Hope this additional info helps.
@@JD-nu1fwCheck out Valley mechanic, he unscrewed transmission mount and lifted it in order to access that bolt. th-cam.com/video/XnonHIgodwg/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for the video. I drain 2.5 Liters from my Camry and add back exactly 2.5 Liters. I do not advise getting under a running car. My transmission shifts fine. I have preformed this procedure several times.
Thanks for the video. Lesson learned: Always use the IR thermometer near the FRONT of the trans fluid pan. This seems to be the hottest part of the pan-hence probably the torque converter outlet.
I want a Million Mile 2010 Avalon XLS so I’ll change my trans fluid thank you. I’m at 86K miles currently but I figured I’ll be driving for at least another 30 years hopefully 🤞. 😊
One may come to the conclusion that with the engine running the temperature change alone increases the level of oil over the plastic dip tube, but also consider that when the vehicle is running it suspends much of the oil up in the torque converter components, and that is the reason the engine needs to be running, and then when at temperature (still running) you allow the excessive oil to come out over the top of the plastic dip tube by removing the drain plug. If you don't have any excess oil to drain out, you can't tell if you have put in enough oil for this reason consider refilling an additional 4 to 6 ounces than you take out. I also noted that if you let the old oil drain overnight, you get more oil out to replace, as it seems to keep dripping very slowly, but continuous.
This procedure is more likely result in under filling the trans with fluid. The correct procedure is to replace the old fluid with exactly the same amount of new fluid. Do the procedure when the trans is cold. In the factory they fill each trans with a certain amount of fluid. If you try to replace the fluid of a hot trans, the volume of the hot fluid is slightly more than the cold fluid but not that much. You may calculate it using the thermal expansion coefficient. One table spoon more or less than the actual volume of replaced fluid is not going to damage the trans. Underfilling is going to harm it in the long run.
I did this to my 2011 Sienna a couple of years ago. I just replaced exactly what was drained and skipped the temp reading. The pan was overfilled to begin with so it most likely can handle being overfilled a little bit still. My car has had no reported issues since replacing with the same amount of fluid.
Was it shifting funny before replaced? At times mine will downshift from 3rd. Very random. It once thrown a pressure control code but trying the fluid change first.
Thank you for this easy to follow video. UnfortunatelyI ended up stripping 6mm hex on the drain plug. I need to figure out how to remove it and go buy a new plug.
Rusted nuts are very common in Northern states. Such a small hex hole in the center of a rusted nut can easily get stripped. Instead, spray liquid wrench first, wait 10 minutes before using a locking wrench to loose the nut. That's what I just did and it served me well.
I know this is kinda old but just wanted to thank you for the video and the comments, answered all my questions except one - Just to clarify, you do two changes close together (like 2,000mi apart) right? And then like every 60k after? Makes sense, almost like a flush without worrying about damage. Anyways thanks again!
I was thinking, if I use a soft tune to siphon out the remaining fluid in the transmission pan through the drain hole, I would probably get around 1 quart more old fluid out? In all the videos that I watched, no one seems to do this though.
Hi Hao, The transmission pan crush washer part number is 90430-12008 The transmission fill plug crush washer part number is 90430-18008 AOIT 10 Pcs Aluminum Transmission Fluid Drain Plug Crush Washer Seal Fits for Toyota Prius Corolla Tacoma Camry, Replacement for The Part# 90430-18008 www.amazon.com/dp/B072627HB9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_Oi1nHjAlTagQT TOYOTA Genuine Parts - Gasket (90430-12008) www.amazon.com/dp/B00TNYHYTO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_R359BWTP7F8MS86ZV162 I hope this help. 🙏
Hi there! When you drain the old fluid, does the temperature is at 113F already or is it cold? I notice that the old fluid is draining when you remove the oil plug. It means the old fluid is above the level of the RED PLUG If the temperature of the fluid is cold? Thanks.
My had 100K in the video, but I’ve done it on other vehicles from anywhere around 60k to 120k range. If towing with your vehicle then 60K is a good number based on Toyota manual’s schedule.
Hello. My 2011 drained 1 and half quart but started overflowing with only 1 quart in. I suspect red tube but dare not tighten it anymore as I am afraid it will break. Is this normal to have such difference or do you still suspect it is red tube not all the way in?
Few things to consider: 1- is it on level ground? 2-was the engine running? The red tube won’t break. You will be able to feel it when it just stop and won’t go anymore. Just take your time but if it is still turning then you just keep going. It will have a hard stop and you know it is all the way in. Hope this help.
I bought a temp gun and checked the temperature of the ATF pan after commute back from work. It was showing 140 fahrenheit. I was expecting 113 fahrenheit like in your video. Is my ATF bad and causing overheating or is this normal? Thank you!
@weekend camper normal operating temp rangers from 150-185F. That is the reason you need a temp gun so you are not working with higher temperatures of 113F. Because it will expand more the higher temperature it gets. So more will drain out of hotter. Hope this helps.
Can I remove the old fluid, and check the temperature and match it with the new fluid going back inside the transmission? Do I need jack stands to jack up the vehicle?
Vehicle needs to be leveled. No sure about the temperature match. There was a comment on this video previously and I think it’s a good idea. I will try that on my next video. He said he just drain the fluid then measures old fluid that came out and then puts back the same amount of new fluid. This way there is not need to start the engine. This method assumes the fluid is at the right amount to begin with. Please be careful and try all things at your own risk 🙏 Thanks for checking the channel. God bless!
Leave the new fluid in the trunk over night and do it in the morning. Everything will be at the same temperature. 2.5L = 2.5 L. Reach under the car from the drivers side to get to the plug. If you don’t get under the car I don’t think you need jack stands. If you want to get under any car then yes. Safety first!
The crush washer can be flattened on sand paper and it is new again. Or you can wrap it with a little Teflon tape. It is soft and can hold 300F degree heat. Guarantee no leak . Because I am a hydraulic test technician. This can hold 10000 PSI.
You don't. You have to replace it since there's no dipstick for this model. Then you pour the old oil into the oil pan and pour it into a empty transmission fluid to get the exact amount of what you need.
I haven’t work on a luceda estima yet. Those are hard to find now. I haven’t seen one in a long time. I hope their are other videos out there for you. Sorry my friend. I hope you find a good one. 👍🏽
This fluid change was to create content. I had changed it the previous week before I had the idea of creating the video. I do agree with you. This change was my lost in order to help others. Thanks for stopping by.
Im a 8 yrs Master Toyota Technician please do not change this oil or touch it its a lifetime oil factory filled, do touch it if its not giving u problems, Thank you
You are not a good technician. Nothing can be a lifetime. You want to make money after the warranty. But I want the car never to go to the shop. Oil is cheap but the mechanic charger is not cheap.
I've seen many Siennas with broken transmissions for sale on FB. You're not going to see many people bring their car into a dealership for transmission repair.
Today’s automatic transmissions run around 175 degrees Fahrenheit. That causes oil to break down. A good synthetic may hold up to 150,000 miles if you don’t do a lot of city driving or trailering. To have a good lasting transmission I changed mine at 60,000 miles. To me, no matter what the mileage is, when it loses the red color and starts looking dark, that is varnish. I changed the oil on mine before it gets serious and deposits that on the discs and solenoids. In my opinion, the “filled-for-life” is an advertising ploy to get me to buy another car sooner, assuming it won’t last more than 150,000 miles. The fill-for-life tests for different manufacturers are between 125,000 and 150,000 miles. I plan for my vehicle to last half a million miles or more. A Toyota vehicle is capable of that with the proper care.
@@ishowudo5636 it’s capable of 300k on the factory fluid, on top of that if you get the level wrong it will ruin your trans. Best to leave them alone. I’m a 10 year master Toyota tech.
First and foremost, Thank you for watching the video. Now to your comments. 300K miles before a fluid change is due. That is questionable, but more reasonable than your first comment. I’ll keep changing mine every 60K miles. Like Benjamin Franklin once said “An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.”
@@ishowudo5636 - let Jeffrey do what he wants. We will change our fluids and maintain our cars not having to take them in. Two Toyota’s over 16 years and I have never brought them in for any service. I prefer to maintain them myself. This procedure costs $15-20 tops. I will continue doing it. Thanks for the great video.
This is a really good video. After watching this video and others, and preforming the procedure on my 2011 Sienna with 124,000 miles, I have a few comments to share. When I first drained the fluid I got out about 2 quarts 10 ounces and refilled the same and checked the level according the all the procedures, which resulted in my conclusion that the original level was overfilled by about 15 ounces. After the doing the 2nd drain and fill about 2,000 miles later, I noted that the fluid didn't seem much clearer I decided to pull the pan to see if there was much sludge, and I changed the filter at the same time. When I pulled the pan, I got another quart plus10 ounces out. The way the pan is designed to accommodate the measuring straw, the pan holds a lot of fluid even when the plug and straw is removed. There was not much sludge and the two magnets where not bad. When I removed the filter I got almost another quart out The Long and short, is I put a full gallon back in and drained out less than 2 ounces after following the procedure of getting the pan to 115 degrees and removing the plug while the vehicle was running in park. Removing the pan and changing the filter greatly increases the amount of old fluid swapped out for new. The cost for the gasket and filter was about 25 bucks on Amazon. The pan is easy to remove with the exception of one bolt that requires a thin 10 mil box end wrench and some patients. Hope this additional info helps.
Really curious how you got those two bolts out for that drain pan. Apparently I need to buy some special super thin end wrenches.
@@JD-nu1fwCheck out Valley mechanic, he unscrewed transmission mount and lifted it in order to access that bolt. th-cam.com/video/XnonHIgodwg/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for the video. I drain 2.5 Liters from my Camry and add back exactly 2.5 Liters. I do not advise getting under a running car. My transmission shifts fine. I have preformed this procedure several times.
Thanks for the video. Lesson learned: Always use the IR thermometer near the FRONT of the trans fluid pan. This seems to be the hottest part of the pan-hence probably the torque converter outlet.
I want a Million Mile 2010 Avalon XLS so I’ll change my trans fluid thank you. I’m at 86K miles currently but I figured I’ll be driving for at least another 30 years hopefully 🤞. 😊
One may come to the conclusion that with the engine running the temperature change alone increases the level of oil over the plastic dip tube, but also consider that when the vehicle is running it suspends much of the oil up in the torque converter components, and that is the reason the engine needs to be running, and then when at temperature (still running) you allow the excessive oil to come out over the top of the plastic dip tube by removing the drain plug. If you don't have any excess oil to drain out, you can't tell if you have put in enough oil for this reason consider refilling an additional 4 to 6 ounces than you take out. I also noted that if you let the old oil drain overnight, you get more oil out to replace, as it seems to keep dripping very slowly, but continuous.
This procedure is more likely result in under filling the trans with fluid. The correct procedure is to replace the old fluid with exactly the same amount of new fluid. Do the procedure when the trans is cold. In the factory they fill each trans with a certain amount of fluid. If you try to replace the fluid of a hot trans, the volume of the hot fluid is slightly more than the cold fluid but not that much. You may calculate it using the thermal expansion coefficient. One table spoon more or less than the actual volume of replaced fluid is not going to damage the trans. Underfilling is going to harm it in the long run.
You have no idea about changing ATF in these transmissions
@@AlexV-pf3io No, he's actually right.
@@Thylacine1 Then both of you are wrong
I did this to my 2011 Sienna a couple of years ago. I just replaced exactly what was drained and skipped the temp reading. The pan was overfilled to begin with so it most likely can handle being overfilled a little bit still. My car has had no reported issues since replacing with the same amount of fluid.
Was it shifting funny before replaced? At times mine will downshift from 3rd. Very random. It once thrown a pressure control code but trying the fluid change first.
No shifting issues ever. Car still runs great and has over 125k mile on it now,@@brucehester888
Thanks dude, crystal clear, doing mine on the weekend, cheers
Thank you for this easy to follow video. UnfortunatelyI ended up stripping 6mm hex on the drain plug. I need to figure out how to remove it and go buy a new plug.
Rusted nuts are very common in Northern states. Such a small hex hole in the center of a rusted nut can easily get stripped. Instead, spray liquid wrench first, wait 10 minutes before using a locking wrench to loose the nut. That's what I just did and it served me well.
Thank you for the easy instructions. God bless you too!
I know this is kinda old but just wanted to thank you for the video and the comments, answered all my questions except one - Just to clarify, you do two changes close together (like 2,000mi apart) right? And then like every 60k after? Makes sense, almost like a flush without worrying about damage. Anyways thanks again!
Thanks for the nice video. When i do the second drain while the engine is running, should i keep the shift lever at P or N?
Your fluid looks clean. Looks like you have been maintaining your van. Lol
Thank you for posting this
Hi Thank you but how are you Started the engine to made speed changing then you put on the 24 mm screw.
This guy goes😮 by the book
Very well done! Thank you, sir 👍👍
Any idea why my rpm fluctuates when i let go off the gas it only do this ones i reach 2500 rpm. It happened after i changed the atf on my sienna.
Thanks for the help!
Missing 2 things:
- purge old oil from transmission cooler
- replace oil filter in the pan
Thank you boss , well explained with the details
I was thinking, if I use a soft tune to siphon out the remaining fluid in the transmission pan through the drain hole, I would probably get around 1 quart more old fluid out? In all the videos that I watched, no one seems to do this though.
We are thinking about the same thing. Pump out the fluid and put in the same amount. I did this to my 2005 Camry but it is not a sealed transmission
오 좋은 영상 만들어 줘서 고마워.. 다음달에 아마 나도 너의 영상처럼 교환해 볼 예정이야..
나의 차는 2013 시에나 ~~
Thank you for the video. Do the drain plug and fill plugs use the same type of crush washers? What is the part number?
Hi Hao,
The transmission pan crush washer part number is 90430-12008
The transmission fill plug crush washer part number is 90430-18008
AOIT 10 Pcs Aluminum Transmission Fluid Drain Plug Crush Washer Seal Fits for Toyota Prius Corolla Tacoma Camry, Replacement for The Part# 90430-18008 www.amazon.com/dp/B072627HB9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_Oi1nHjAlTagQT
TOYOTA Genuine Parts - Gasket (90430-12008) www.amazon.com/dp/B00TNYHYTO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_R359BWTP7F8MS86ZV162
I hope this help. 🙏
@@ishowudo5636 Than you! Really appreciate the information!
Hi there! When you drain the old fluid, does the temperature is at 113F already or is it cold? I notice that the old fluid is draining when you remove the oil plug. It means the old fluid is above the level of the RED PLUG If the temperature of the fluid is cold? Thanks.
If Sienna is turn off then the fluid will drain out. You have to have it running for the fluid to be set a proper level.
Good catch Joni. I would think with the engine cold and the proper quantity of fluid in the trans no fluid should come out. Good video.
Te falto cambiar el filtro que va a dentro y la junta del carter aperte esas cajas llevan 6.5 litros de aceite atf ws
ATF quiere decir "Automatic Transmission Fluid" ósea "Fluido de Transmission Automatica"
thank you for the posting, help me save money
how many miles did your van have when you changed it..i have a 2015 and planning to change it soon..
My had 100K in the video, but I’ve done it on other vehicles from anywhere around 60k to 120k range. If towing with your vehicle then 60K is a good number based on Toyota manual’s schedule.
hi, thanks for this info. great video
Hello. My 2011 drained 1 and half quart but started overflowing with only 1 quart in. I suspect red tube but dare not tighten it anymore as I am afraid it will break. Is this normal to have such difference or do you still suspect it is red tube not all the way in?
Few things to consider: 1- is it on level ground? 2-was the engine running?
The red tube won’t break. You will be able to feel it when it just stop and won’t go anymore. Just take your time but if it is still turning then you just keep going. It will have a hard stop and you know it is all the way in. Hope this help.
How much for infrared thermometer? Thanks 🙏
$23 on Amazon
Toyota Sienna 2011 how many liters do I need
I bought a temp gun and checked the temperature of the ATF pan after commute back from work. It was showing 140 fahrenheit. I was expecting 113 fahrenheit like in your video. Is my ATF bad and causing overheating or is this normal? Thank you!
@weekend camper normal operating temp rangers from 150-185F. That is the reason you need a temp gun so you are not working with higher temperatures of 113F. Because it will expand more the higher temperature it gets. So more will drain out of hotter. Hope this helps.
How many quarts fluid I have to added for sienna 4 cylinder 2012
Excellent video. Thanks.
Can I remove the old fluid, and check the temperature and match it with the new fluid going back inside the transmission? Do I need jack stands to jack up the vehicle?
Vehicle needs to be leveled. No sure about the temperature match.
There was a comment on this video previously and I think it’s a good idea. I will try that on my next video. He said he just drain the fluid then measures old fluid that came out and then puts back the same amount of new fluid. This way there is not need to start the engine. This method assumes the fluid is at the right amount to begin with.
Please be careful and try all things at your own risk 🙏
Thanks for checking the channel. God bless!
Leave the new fluid in the trunk over night and do it in the morning. Everything will be at the same temperature. 2.5L = 2.5 L. Reach under the car from the drivers side to get to the plug. If you don’t get under the car I don’t think you need jack stands. If you want to get under any car then yes. Safety first!
Thank you 🙏🏽 it was much help GOD bless you too!
Well done thanx 👍
the plug looks good why need to be replaced? can you re use them?
Hi, did not replace the plugs(bolts). Only the washer.
You dont need to replace the washers...unless it makes you feel good. Mine hold up just fine no leaks.
The crush washer can be flattened on sand paper and it is new again. Or you can wrap it with a little Teflon tape. It is soft and can hold 300F degree heat. Guarantee no leak . Because I am a hydraulic test technician. This can hold 10000 PSI.
Where do you buy the yellow fill tube? Thx
I just got it at AutoZone. Like $5 or under $5. It comes with a funnel. I think. Can’t remember now.
Great Video.
friends, my recommendation is that this type of transmission takes a good professional to do that service
so the fill plug on the side of the transmission. when it is full the fluid slowly drips?
No, the red straw inside the drain plug is for keeping the right amount of fluid inside. That is the reason it needs to be parked in level ground.
How do you know if the fluid level is low or high?
You don't. You have to replace it since there's no dipstick for this model. Then you pour the old oil into the oil pan and pour it into a empty transmission fluid to get the exact amount of what you need.
Does it matter what temp when you first do the drain ?
Hi there, I don’t think so. But it will take longer to reach the desire temperature if you drain it when cold.
Not at all. I drain mine when cold typically but it does not matter. Some people might say do it hit because it flows better but I don’t see any need
If you do drain it after running the vehicle, just watch out cause the fluid will be hot enough to burn your skin.
seems very easy!
Good job
Toyota luceda estima I'm asking sir how many ATF Fluid oil. I hope you help me
I haven’t work on a luceda estima yet. Those are hard to find now. I haven’t seen one in a long time. I hope their are other videos out there for you. Sorry my friend. I hope you find a good one. 👍🏽
Why didn't you change the transmission filter?🤔👀😯🤭😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
God bless u!
Where you buy you inflared termó
I got mine at Lowe’s. It cost around $15. 👍🏽
I couldn't fit without lifting the van
Id say go to valvoline its like 100 bucks
Old oil looks good status. Your replacement is just a "Waste of Money".
This fluid change was to create content. I had changed it the previous week before I had the idea of creating the video. I do agree with you. This change was my lost in order to help others. Thanks for stopping by.
Im a 8 yrs Master Toyota Technician please do not change this oil or touch it its a lifetime oil factory filled, do touch it if its not giving u problems, Thank you
Lifetime marketed fluids are just a marketing Scam! You can pay for my new transmission lol 😂
@@roadglide1142 no manufacturers knows what they doing
You are not a good technician. Nothing can be a lifetime. You want to make money after the warranty. But I want the car never to go to the shop. Oil is cheap but the mechanic charger is not cheap.
@@pewpew9040 well its proven liftetime 360k miles on 2011 sienna trans fluid never been touched still runing well
I've seen many Siennas with broken transmissions for sale on FB. You're not going to see many people bring their car into a dealership for transmission repair.
This fluid doesn’t need to be changed.
Today’s automatic transmissions run around 175 degrees Fahrenheit. That causes oil to break down. A good synthetic may hold up to 150,000 miles if you don’t do a lot of city driving or trailering.
To have a good lasting transmission I changed mine at 60,000 miles.
To me, no matter what the mileage is, when it loses the red color and starts looking dark, that is varnish. I changed the oil on mine before it gets serious and deposits that on the discs and solenoids.
In my opinion, the “filled-for-life” is an advertising ploy to get me to buy another car sooner, assuming it won’t last more than 150,000 miles. The fill-for-life tests for different manufacturers are between 125,000 and 150,000 miles.
I plan for my vehicle to last half a million miles or more. A Toyota vehicle is capable of that with the proper care.
@@ishowudo5636 it’s capable of 300k on the factory fluid, on top of that if you get the level wrong it will ruin your trans. Best to leave them alone. I’m a 10 year master Toyota tech.
First and foremost, Thank you for watching the video.
Now to your comments. 300K miles before a fluid change is due. That is questionable, but more reasonable than your first comment.
I’ll keep changing mine every 60K miles.
Like Benjamin Franklin once said “An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.”
@@ishowudo5636 you are wasting your money.
@@ishowudo5636 - let Jeffrey do what he wants. We will change our fluids and maintain our cars not having to take them in. Two Toyota’s over 16 years and I have never brought them in for any service. I prefer to maintain them myself. This procedure costs $15-20 tops. I will continue doing it. Thanks for the great video.
Great video