It feels like an intern was put in charge of this portion of design and had not actually played this game because it may be the worst platforming section in any game ever it wasn't built to have to have these precise movements and it has no forgiveness even though it knows it is garbage in a very good game
I've just finished the whole challenge and I can confirm, it's annoying as hell. Bad camera angles, slips very easily and on the third stage even when you have enough height you can miss the platform. The last part you are going to suffer if you don't know what to do, I tried many times but when I understood how to climb I did it on a second try. You have to kind of walk to the outside of the platform and perform the double jump, if you try to double jump below the platform above you either are going to hit your head or won't have enough height if you jump left then right, you need to walk out side and immediately make the double jump so you go almost straight up and reach the platform above.
Bro this just saved my life 4 years later on the very very last part. Never realized that was a thing. Almost impossible to fail using this and dropkick on that part. Love you from 4 years later xD
Thanks! Your tips using the flykick for aircontrol and pause was invaluable and probably wouldve extended my torment with another hour or two. Btw at the part with the 3 floors with disappearing tiles you can just jump and glide over half of it and then again over the other half for all 3 floors. Just normal running and jumping, if you do it youll always land on safe tiles (saved me alot of time realizing that) ;)
if anyone has problems with the first jumping part- I did it by jumping, spreading wings and once i am above the platform I hit basic attack (with strife) - this way you will fall in a vertical manner on the platform :)
This entire section is literal cancer, at least let us have like a red or orange shadow beneath us. You’re literally trying to jump on dark purple things with a black shadow, this game was not built for platforming like this. I’m currently on the second part of the puzzle & it’s just ridiculous with the hit or miss depth perception
yeah I' stuck on P2 too, can't get those last two tiny jumps to get onto what's effectively the last platform, if I could just get those I'd be able to get to part 3... and spend like a week stuck at that crap too... Edit:and an hour and a half or so after this I finally got through part 2. This is hell.
@@wrexonus Especially part 3, many invisible walls and bugs. If you bump into something or misstep only once, it guarantees falling to death. The wall run, also, can show how bad the game mechanics are. If I played Mario, I'd be sure that the climb is very easy but not in this game since you gotta prey your character to run or fall down as the control is so unstable. It's not challenging but so unfair. I can say goodbye to darksiders series and fuxx the retarded devs.
@@Bianconeri83TH bro, what the hell. Nobody says you have to do this segment. It's just for people who like this sort of stuff. The main game is the meat.
@@voiavictor I just gave my opinions about this section, mate. I enjoy the game as long as it's difficult but fair. For the 1st part, I tried about 4 hours till I passed because I knew that it was I who made mistakes. For the 2nd, it's more frustrating due to the perspective but I'm okay with it. However, the 3rd is full of bad coding, such as invisble walls, inappropriate control for wall jumping, and etc. I got stuck at the disappearing platform not because I suck, but the game didn't allow my character to jump on the isolate platform between the row because of the invisible wall or just my tip of the feet didn't get on it. I'm very sure that if this platform was in another good game like Super Mario, it would be very easy to get through. All in all, Darksiders genesis mechanics, controls and perspective ain't compatible with the leviathan's maze.
Police: "Why did you kill your business partner?" Developer: "He suggested to make an isometric 3D platformer, so I stabbed him 37 times in the chest." Police: "You did us all a favour." In the first and third part they at least had the sense to use the right view angle.
I'm fine with platforming challanges. I'm fine with a game testing my reflexes and pushing me to play better. The issue is the check points. To few and far between. I get that some people get there willy's from Kizo Mario trial and error and that is cool but this is an action adventure game. If you want to test my skills and push my limits for optional rewards put them behind brain teasing puzzles and challanging but fair combat that. Obscure platforming challanges that cause a large genre shift and reward you with items ment for the action adventure come off as sloppy, confusing and frustrating. You will find most of your players unhappy with the shift in gameplay and frustrated when it is unforgiving. I am not playing Darksiders to play Mario 2 lost levels. Genre shifts in games should never be overly taxing. They should be short sweet and leave a good taste in your mouth, otherwise they shouldn't be done period.
The game never got finished dude. December came and their corporate overlords told them they have to launch it. Dont tell me you didnt notice all the bugs, map showing things that arent there or not showing things that are there, and the relentlessly unresponsive controls. Not to mention the ridiculously redundant rewards you get for completing hard quests, which are most of the time the exact same thing you normally get for doing that thing, or worse yet just a ton of souls. Wtf needs souls as rewards for quests when you can, Id say almost have to, replay levels? Seriously... Its painfully obvious this is a game that got launched before it was done because capitalism yo
@@careforpearbear64 Yeah, this studio has a bad reputation of putting out unfinished, bug filled, messes. Even their Remasters of Darksiders 1 and 2 were full of bugs, and Darksiders 2 still has some bad ones. Remnant was also pretty horrible at launch, although it has gotten better at this point. I honestly don't know why they are like this. Both Remnant and Darksiders 3 were Dark Souls clones, but Remnant was at least unique in that regard with its gunplay. But for whatever reason, they never seem to be able to release a game that isn't fucked up in some kind of way.
@@careforpearbear64which is such a shame, this franchise could be among the best but every studio that owned the IP pushed these games out unfinished to a degree.
Rarely have I been pushed to such a level of rage and frustration while playing a video game. Sad part is I was actually enjoying the game so far but I fear this part totally ruined it for me 😥 (And i thought the Pitioss dungeon in FFXV was a pain in the ass)
Totally same here... We loved the game and the background story for the good first and second Darksiders. But this part made me so angry that I wanted to cry like a little boy and throw my controller out of the window.
The problem with this is it highlights the worst mechanic in the game to the maximum and really kills the games enjoyment. I've been at it for nearly an hour and the mechanics aren't consistent, such as with the dash drop stopping you at the edge of the pillars(which looks intended) but then throwing you off at random in ways that the game doesn't make use of, and sometimes you just don't break out of the fall animation altogether and slide off noticably. The platforming wasn't polished enough for shit like this and when you highlight the worst element it kills enjoyment overall, at least in my experience.
To you my man for the tile puzzle, I was never gonna figure out there was an actual pattern to it, thank you so so much!! So much heartache trying to brute force it!!✌️
In terms of getting the platinum trophy, you only need to complete the first pillar section to get one Leviathan core. Glad that's the case. Platforming in this game is so frustrating but that is somewhat to blame due to the isometric view.
For a horseman of the apocalypse this is one of the best cores we can get. For an apprentice however, like Strife's lesser known half brother on the mothers side Trifle, it may seem redundant...
I just did this on PC. Was the hardest thing I've done in a game my entire life. If the jump mechanic wasn't so clunky it would be fun, but it was more frustrating than anything, like wtf were you thinking game devs? Another tip I can give on the very last part, you can also stand on the platforms fora brief momment before jumping, no need to jump right way, that will give you time to think and calculate the jump. I spent hours on that part without being able to jump 2 platforms, but after I though about the pause strat I went all the way to the top first try.
How on earth did you do this first try? I genuinely believe I’m gonna lose my mind. I need the leviathan core for platinum and cannot for the life of me reach the end. My head is gonna explode if I fall off these fucking rocks one more time.
I did the final final up-jumping section with War, and found it felt better that way with strife, i felt like i didn't skid over those miserable vanishing tiles, a suggestion if any of you are still struggling
I noticed something interesting during my attempt and completion of this earlier today (yea I know, this ones been out awhile but I only just got around to playing it). The second section of the third portion has a bit of cheese to it. With one level in movement via resocketing elsewhere, you can basically do each row in 2 jumps without counting whatsoever. The amount of movement plus a full glide from the outer safe platform lands you directly in the center which is safe on all 3 rows. Same full glide lands you on the outer safe platform on the other end. Very handy especially when having to redo the first row to make use of the shortcut if you fall in the last platforming puzzle.
It's incredible!!! I watched the video 10 times and never finished the 2nd part. Then I read the comments and the third one seems more difficult!!! (after watching the video IMHO the 3rd is more more more simple!!) Never seen a platform like this!!!
Soo. I’m on stage 1 since hours and have already thrown my controller against the wall. I played DS 1,2,3 before I started with this game. and I have not seen a riddle there that is anywhere near as bad as this riddle. Good Video you have a like 👍
FYI, on the first row of disappearing platforms, it's actually every second platform that is safe, not every fourth. Then second row is every third, and third row is every fourth. 😉 Plus, if anyone is having trouble with timing and lining up to land on a specific platform, if you use Strife and double jump into the air and hold the shoot button, you will be held in the air for several seconds and be able to move *very* slowly, which makes lining up his shadow easier and gives you a bit more time to count platforms. Edit: Oh I should mention, don't glide before you shoot. If you glide before you shoot you'll enter the glide/shoot animation, which doesn't stop gliding, even if you let go of the jump button.
By the way, I found easier way to get forst core on that small pillars. Need using Strife and for better landing on every small pillar use his aaeril foot punch.
I'm late to the party but thanks for the help, honestly the reason the platforming is so bad is they don't give benefit of the doubt, if one pixel makes it you landed in other platformers, instead they go full doubt to the point if one pixel touches the side or top of something your instantly treated to a wall, the characters land on almost every surface like it's ice instead of rough, traction gripping surfaces and almost every part of it just shows how bad the top down type of camera angle was the worst possible choice for this franchise. It almost makes me wish that the other half of their original developers who went with crytek took the game instead which is a bad thought because a lot of other parts of this game were so enjoyable. The fighting with war felt fun, the shooting with strife was enjoyable even if I felt under powered at times and the abilities and other puzzles were a little simple but fun enough to do to break up the hack and slash fun. If they do ever make a DS4 I hope they go back to 3rd person or at least a movable camera and either refine the platforming or make the platforming stupid simple that the negatives of their platforming can't be noticed
Первый и последний раз каждого ряда всегда безопасны. Картина следующая: 1. Для 1-го ряда оставьте 3 платформы между ними, приземляйтесь на каждую 4-ю плитку. 2. Для 2-го ряда оставьте 2 платформы между ними, приземляйтесь на каждую 3-ю плитку. 3. 3-й ряд такой же, как и 1-й ряд, оставьте 3 платформы между ними, приземляйтесь на каждую 4-ю плитку,
Just for anyone who wants to know. It's also possible to skip the last bit by clambering on top of the leviathan and getting slingshotted over but it takes some trial and error.
@@DesiMando_YT made it happen right before I posted that reply, but it took a few tries and the thing had to fly through at just the right angle to pretty much jump at it and get tail whipped over
All they added was a couple of those blue orbs that boost you up on part 3 so it makes it a little easier if you fall. The last section of part 3 is still complete bs
So uh.... I was just messing around to try and save my sanity of the last verticle part and you can actually get on top of the leviathan when it flys towards the screen and Idk how but I jumped off and glided over that whole part and landed on the core...
@@mightymanofvalour8691 The video I linked replying to myself shows exactly how it happened and the quest completing and reward. I noticed however the leviathans flight pattern is somewhat random but I'm not sure if this affects how consistently you can perform it
Combat's cool, puzzles are cool but the platforming takes a giant dump on your patience. It just feels awkward with this type of "top down" gameplay. For me at least. I'm not fond of platforming to begin with and this game kicks you in the nutts with it.
Me and the girl spent close to a total of 4hrs trying to do this one night. Had to turn down the game speed in order to accomplish it which made its seem longer.
^This. T H I S. This should be a pinned comment imho. I cannot express how much this lowers the frustration and overall difficulty of this abomination of platforming which was forsaken by every single god I know. Even though the 3rd section has been eased with addition of 2 shortcuts after you finish each sub-section (I assume those were absent at some previous game versions), it still took few tries to complete the last sub-section. For me, perfect speed was second from left side of bar. Abuse it. Abuse triangle for mid-air stop. Good luck, have faith, keep trying - its possible.
Shoutout to the dev, this really makes you feel like a kid that was never loved by his parents, grew up and decided to program this god awful "puzzle" Do yourself a favour, grab that last core via the glitch and be done with it.
@@Raikator97 That's the problem. You gotta stand on the far edge and jump straight (slightly upward) to the left not to hit the invisible wall, and the double jump upward. And you have to time the rotate platform when it's moving down a bit.
2:45 that Segment ist completely broken to me. I can not jump off walls again. I have been trying for half an hour now. Sometimes i get to the spikes, but most of the times, i just fall, slide or glide down without ryme or reason. This is infuriating. This whole segment is complete bullshit.
I have that issue sometimes, but other times it works flawlessly. Not sure what the issue is, but when it decides not to work, I find jumping to the wall then not pressing any direction until just after I hit the next wall seems to work (if that makes sense). Kind of like; -jump into wall (from the bottom), release direction -wait til top of wall climb animation -press jump button *without* pressing any direction -when wall cling triggers, press direction into wall That usually triggers the next wall run animation, but if not, spamming jump back to the other wall then back again seems to fix the animation. Also sorry for so much text lol. Hope this helps somewhat.
not gonna lie I didn't think this was overly hard. Once I realized that it's all about inputs I just tapped back once I was over the little purple pillars and got past stage one in like 5min (to be fair I played around on that earlier getting the boatman coin at the top for like 10min). Stage 2 took like 10min just figuring out the timings and angles and stuff (I don't think many people have a problem with stage 2). Stage 3 took like 20min the 2 checkpoints you get were really handy IMO because you just speedrun all the way until the little rock things but you can just air kick your way down and never fall on them and after that, it's just figuring out the timing of the final jumps, and even if you mess up you can air kick and go at a lower level so I really don't see a problem with it. This definitely isn't a platformer game, the times I did fail it felt more like the game's stupidity than my own skill but I still think it wasn't overly hard. Then again I play games like Cuphead, Sekiro on demon mode, DS3, I wanna be the Boshi, etc for fun so I have a lot of experience with difficult/mechanically intense games. Good luck everyone!
I'm having the worst time with the wall jumping section, I see what you're doing, but I the mechanics are so damn cluncky on the PS4. Any help would be appreciated.
What's the trick to actually jumping from platform to platform for the final 3rd of the final part? Do you technically walk off the platform, then jump or what? Edit: Never mind, I figured it out.
Puta que pariu, caralho, porra. Finalmente depois de mais de 5 horas conseguir passar nesse caminho do cacete. Mas só conseguir por causa da dica do vídeo. Valeu obrigado.
2:55 *screaming intensly later* first row is actually every 2nd tile, but 4 also works go figure anyway back to screaming AAGGHGHHHH ps. SCREW ALLL OF THIS, but htank you for hte video very helpful
The 2:46 mark sucks. I can't truly figure out the jumping mechanics when you run up a wall. Do I just hold the controller in the direction I want to jump at the same time as hitting the jump button? Edit: Got it with War. Much easier.
Once you complete the second part of the 3rd part, do you get a blue check point orb? That way you don't have to do the 2nd part of the 3rd part again?
F this segment very much. After a lot of trial and error, I managed to get to the final area at 4:00 legit but after maybe a hundred attempts I just said screw it and turned the game speed down to the minimum in the settings. Still had to do it in 2 or 3 tries in slow motion since even when slowed, it still demands perfect jumps. I figured if the game is gonna be cheap, then I’ll just do the same. What sucked the most is that even though they add jump pads when you reach that part, you still have to keep doing the first row of disappearing tiles to get there. I ran that part so many times I can probably do the first row blindfolded due to muscle memory. Screw this part and big F you to the people that made it.
For the rows with safe and fake tiles in the third part, on the lowest row it's actually every second tile that is safe. In other words, you must skip (at least) as many tiles as the row you're on.
wow i must have missed a lot in this game i didnt come across this part edit: went and did it and it took me 4 hours lmfao. I'm on pc with keyboard, so it's doable in case anyone is wondering
The worst part of this is missing that first tile of the last section, then having to hear that stupid air kick sound effect for 10 minutes because Strife keeps slipping off the fucking tiles on the way back.
Who the hell thought platforming like this would be a good idea in this game? Platforming is such a weak spot for this type of perspective and creates the very opposite of fun. If this game had the same perspective as the other games in the series, then platforming like this would be fine.
I am having a hell of a time in phase 2. I can get around the corner of the mountain to the wall-run section, but for the life of me I cannot figure out what I'm supposed to be landing on. I get to the top of the thing, jump off, and invariably glide into oblivion. This vid makes it look like there's some sort of ledge *behind* the foreground pillar that's the target, but I am certainly having no luck hitting it. Any advice would be appreciated. BTW, I'm playing on a PS4Pro in case that affects things (such as: there is no Graphics option to slow gameplay as mentioned elsewhere in the comments).
Did you ever revisit this? I'm on PS4 and the option to slow the gameplay presents as an "assist" slider, but so far I really only needed it while guiding the aether spark through the tiny moving squares in the gauntlet section.
@@syylone1997 I finished the game so apparently this wasn't a permanent stumbling block, but honestly it's been so long that I don't recall precisely what I did.
I'm stuck Part 3 ... I don't know but my character has troubles jumping and running against wall to get to the plateforms . This part seems so easy on video , i must be doing something wrong but i don't understand what .
I cant even get passed the 1st stage. I'm failing earlier and earlier and my eyes are starting to go funny because of the top down view making it look like dots pulsing when you jump up and down. Imagine making something so bad it hurts the players eyes. Seriously who made this. I want a list of their fears and their loved ones addresses.
This game is fun, this segment is not... I get adding a challenge, this isn't a challenge. This is learning what part of the slightly sloped edge is a flat surface and what part is a "kick-off the player he didn't do it right" spot. Also, for anyone having issues controlling themselves airborne(i know i do), shooting strifes guns while your wings aren't out will make you lose all momentum, good for landing on objects that do not require pixel perfect placements.
The person who "designed" this piece of shit should be locked down and forced to play this over and over again until he would understand the mistake he made. In addition to that all who is thinking about making games in the future should be obliged to play this 8 hour per day every day for the first year of their studies to learn HOW NOT to design levels in games
This is the WORST platforming section I've ever experienced in a game. Bad perspective, inconsistent controls, you need to land PERFECTLY on tiny platforms to not slide off. I've played through every darksiders game and even though this is optional it's turning me off from playing any future darksiders games. Eff the devs
It's impossible. Made it past the first part but can't get past the 2nd part I try to fallow what was did in the vid, but game keeps on talling me not today and I fall. Good times let me tell you. Like trying to just on a nail head
This is the single worst section of any video I have ever played in my entire life. I cannot fathom how how sain human being could possibly think this was ok. Its a mindbogglingly idiotic piece of game design.
Timestamps:
1st stage: 0:12
2nd stage: 0:59
3rd stage: 2:36
Imagine being a horseman, and be able to glide with wings, but unable to grab the edge you just missed.....
This made me laugh. Thanks
That's what I thought.. All the time you slip down
Hey! Another Rubedo :).
Bruh that's fury's thing.
Grabbing the ledge would be too easy, gotta make it as annoying as possible
It feels like an intern was put in charge of this portion of design and had not actually played this game because it may be the worst platforming section in any game ever it wasn't built to have to have these precise movements and it has no forgiveness even though it knows it is garbage in a very good game
@Frank Castle P Get rid of the almost. Took me more time to beat this section than the rest of the game combined.
3:59 I hope whoever designed that part doesn't work again for the rest of his life
i hope whoever came up with the idea of this whole thing rots in hell
I've just finished the whole challenge and I can confirm, it's annoying as hell. Bad camera angles, slips very easily and on the third stage even when you have enough height you can miss the platform. The last part you are going to suffer if you don't know what to do, I tried many times but when I understood how to climb I did it on a second try. You have to kind of walk to the outside of the platform and perform the double jump, if you try to double jump below the platform above you either are going to hit your head or won't have enough height if you jump left then right, you need to walk out side and immediately make the double jump so you go almost straight up and reach the platform above.
They updated the game to include a game speed modifier. It slows the game down quite a bit and makes this jumping puzzle much easier. Hope this helps.
Did the first part first try using that, cheers.
That game speed mod doesn't make this any easier. At all! If anything it makes it harder!
up you go, for everybody to see.
Bro this just saved my life 4 years later on the very very last part. Never realized that was a thing. Almost impossible to fail using this and dropkick on that part. Love you from 4 years later xD
@@Drizzinn haha that's awesome! I'm glad it helped!
This game is amazing in so many ways but precision platforming isn't one of them.
Thanks! Your tips using the flykick for aircontrol and pause was invaluable and probably wouldve extended my torment with another hour or two. Btw at the part with the 3 floors with disappearing tiles you can just jump and glide over half of it and then again over the other half for all 3 floors. Just normal running and jumping, if you do it youll always land on safe tiles (saved me alot of time realizing that) ;)
if anyone has problems with the first jumping part- I did it by jumping, spreading wings and once i am above the platform I hit basic attack (with strife) - this way you will fall in a vertical manner on the platform :)
OMG this advice is most helpful. I was able to make it before falling off the last jump😂
DUDE. This is essential!! Good tip for this broken mess.
This entire section is literal cancer, at least let us have like a red or orange shadow beneath us. You’re literally trying to jump on dark purple things with a black shadow, this game was not built for platforming like this. I’m currently on the second part of the puzzle & it’s just ridiculous with the hit or miss depth perception
yeah I' stuck on P2 too, can't get those last two tiny jumps to get onto what's effectively the last platform, if I could just get those I'd be able to get to part 3... and spend like a week stuck at that crap too...
Edit:and an hour and a half or so after this I finally got through part 2. This is hell.
@@wrexonus Especially part 3, many invisible walls and bugs. If you bump into something or misstep only once, it guarantees falling to death.
The wall run, also, can show how bad the game mechanics are. If I played Mario, I'd be sure that the climb is very easy but not in this game since you gotta prey your character to run or fall down as the control is so unstable. It's not challenging but so unfair.
I can say goodbye to darksiders series and fuxx the retarded devs.
@@Bianconeri83TH bro, what the hell. Nobody says you have to do this segment. It's just for people who like this sort of stuff. The main game is the meat.
@@voiavictor I just gave my opinions about this section, mate. I enjoy the game as long as it's difficult but fair. For the 1st part, I tried about 4 hours till I passed because I knew that it was I who made mistakes. For the 2nd, it's more frustrating due to the perspective but I'm okay with it. However, the 3rd is full of bad coding, such as invisble walls, inappropriate control for wall jumping, and etc. I got stuck at the disappearing platform not because I suck, but the game didn't allow my character to jump on the isolate platform between the row because of the invisible wall or just my tip of the feet didn't get on it.
I'm very sure that if this platform was in another good game like Super Mario, it would be very easy to get through. All in all, Darksiders genesis mechanics, controls and perspective ain't compatible with the leviathan's maze.
@@voiavictor moreover, I don't want it to be easier, mate. Just want it to be fair with players.
Imagine being a horseman and having wings but not being able to fly you use them in any unique way besides gliding for like half a second
Or just wear some proper footwear with actual grip instead of iceskates.
Police: "Why did you kill your business partner?"
Developer: "He suggested to make an isometric 3D platformer, so I stabbed him 37 times in the chest."
Police: "You did us all a favour."
In the first and third part they at least had the sense to use the right view angle.
Indeed... Absolutely
I'm fine with platforming challanges. I'm fine with a game testing my reflexes and pushing me to play better.
The issue is the check points. To few and far between. I get that some people get there willy's from Kizo Mario trial and error and that is cool but this is an action adventure game. If you want to test my skills and push my limits for optional rewards put them behind brain teasing puzzles and challanging but fair combat that. Obscure platforming challanges that cause a large genre shift and reward you with items ment for the action adventure come off as sloppy, confusing and frustrating. You will find most of your players unhappy with the shift in gameplay and frustrated when it is unforgiving. I am not playing Darksiders to play Mario 2 lost levels. Genre shifts in games should never be overly taxing. They should be short sweet and leave a good taste in your mouth, otherwise they shouldn't be done period.
The game never got finished dude. December came and their corporate overlords told them they have to launch it. Dont tell me you didnt notice all the bugs, map showing things that arent there or not showing things that are there, and the relentlessly unresponsive controls. Not to mention the ridiculously redundant rewards you get for completing hard quests, which are most of the time the exact same thing you normally get for doing that thing, or worse yet just a ton of souls. Wtf needs souls as rewards for quests when you can, Id say almost have to, replay levels? Seriously... Its painfully obvious this is a game that got launched before it was done because capitalism yo
@@careforpearbear64 Yeah, this studio has a bad reputation of putting out unfinished, bug filled, messes. Even their Remasters of Darksiders 1 and 2 were full of bugs, and Darksiders 2 still has some bad ones. Remnant was also pretty horrible at launch, although it has gotten better at this point. I honestly don't know why they are like this. Both Remnant and Darksiders 3 were Dark Souls clones, but Remnant was at least unique in that regard with its gunplay. But for whatever reason, they never seem to be able to release a game that isn't fucked up in some kind of way.
@@RubedoURTV666 Genesis isn't connected to Gunfire though, this shit fest is all on Airship Syndicate.
The third part actually does have checkpoints. Once you clear a section, jump orbs spawn that let you skip it.
@@careforpearbear64which is such a shame, this franchise could be among the best but every studio that owned the IP pushed these games out unfinished to a degree.
My friend and I are doing this part of the game together and man, his rage is so Unreal...
I am so mad... You make it look so easy! Especially the first part!
The first part should not be in the game if nothing like it in any area. It’s fucking stupid.
Rarely have I been pushed to such a level of rage and frustration while playing a video game.
Sad part is I was actually enjoying the game so far but I fear this part totally ruined it for me 😥
(And i thought the Pitioss dungeon in FFXV was a pain in the ass)
Don't let it. You do not have to do it if you dislike it, you can beat the game on all dificulties withouth the leviathan core.
Totally same here... We loved the game and the background story for the good first and second Darksiders.
But this part made me so angry that I wanted to cry like a little boy and throw my controller out of the window.
You can throw us at the highest difficulty as you want but... what breaks us is a fucking jumping puzzle
The problem with this is it highlights the worst mechanic in the game to the maximum and really kills the games enjoyment.
I've been at it for nearly an hour and the mechanics aren't consistent, such as with the dash drop stopping you at the edge of the pillars(which looks intended) but then throwing you off at random in ways that the game doesn't make use of, and sometimes you just don't break out of the fall animation altogether and slide off noticably.
The platforming wasn't polished enough for shit like this and when you highlight the worst element it kills enjoyment overall, at least in my experience.
@@DaedLizrad I agree
If i may add, using the guns to control the jumps helps SOOOO much during this
Holy shit this is AMAZING,thanks man.
To you my man for the tile puzzle, I was never gonna figure out there was an actual pattern to it, thank you so so much!! So much heartache trying to brute force it!!✌️
I did the first part to get the core, but after hours of trying I gave up on the rest. Nice work making it to the end!
This just looks like a weird out of bounds glitch
I FINALLY DID IT! And all it took was me to mute everything in silence for concentration...
In terms of getting the platinum trophy, you only need to complete the first pillar section to get one Leviathan core. Glad that's the case. Platforming in this game is so frustrating but that is somewhat to blame due to the isometric view.
The reward is not worth the stress from this
It is
Agree, that fucking platform
It's cool makes you look like a super sayian 2
For a horseman of the apocalypse this is one of the best cores we can get. For an apprentice however, like Strife's lesser known half brother on the mothers side Trifle, it may seem redundant...
@@BrightHero_Ultimato wut?? Did it change appearance or what??
I just did this on PC. Was the hardest thing I've done in a game my entire life. If the jump mechanic wasn't so clunky it would be fun, but it was more frustrating than anything, like wtf were you thinking game devs?
Another tip I can give on the very last part, you can also stand on the platforms fora brief momment before jumping, no need to jump right way, that will give you time to think and calculate the jump. I spent hours on that part without being able to jump 2 platforms, but after I though about the pause strat I went all the way to the top first try.
How on earth did you do this first try? I genuinely believe I’m gonna lose my mind. I need the leviathan core for platinum and cannot for the life of me reach the end. My head is gonna explode if I fall off these fucking rocks one more time.
This is about as much of a guide as much as the leviathan's maze is a maze.
Whenever you hear the Leviathan in the background, he sounds like a nascar. Voooooooom!
I did the final final up-jumping section with War, and found it felt better that way with strife, i felt like i didn't skid over those miserable vanishing tiles, a suggestion if any of you are still struggling
I noticed something interesting during my attempt and completion of this earlier today (yea I know, this ones been out awhile but I only just got around to playing it). The second section of the third portion has a bit of cheese to it. With one level in movement via resocketing elsewhere, you can basically do each row in 2 jumps without counting whatsoever. The amount of movement plus a full glide from the outer safe platform lands you directly in the center which is safe on all 3 rows. Same full glide lands you on the outer safe platform on the other end. Very handy especially when having to redo the first row to make use of the shortcut if you fall in the last platforming puzzle.
It's incredible!!!
I watched the video 10 times and never finished the 2nd part.
Then I read the comments and the third one seems more difficult!!! (after watching the video IMHO the 3rd is more more more simple!!)
Never seen a platform like this!!!
Man, thank you so much from a fellow Guilty Gear fan.
Impressive. Very nice. Now let's see a War playthrough of this PTSD-inducing run.
Soo. I’m on stage 1 since hours and have already thrown my controller against the wall. I played DS 1,2,3 before I started with this game. and I have not seen a riddle there that is anywhere near as bad as this riddle. Good Video you have a like 👍
So good to see this done. Glad I could watch rather than have to do it. I'll never be able to do that. If I can beat the game, I'm good. Thank you!
Just completed this.
*_Never again_*
FYI, on the first row of disappearing platforms, it's actually every second platform that is safe, not every fourth. Then second row is every third, and third row is every fourth. 😉
Plus, if anyone is having trouble with timing and lining up to land on a specific platform, if you use Strife and double jump into the air and hold the shoot button, you will be held in the air for several seconds and be able to move *very* slowly, which makes lining up his shadow easier and gives you a bit more time to count platforms.
Edit: Oh I should mention, don't glide before you shoot. If you glide before you shoot you'll enter the glide/shoot animation, which doesn't stop gliding, even if you let go of the jump button.
By the way, I found easier way to get forst core on that small pillars. Need using Strife and for better landing on every small pillar use his aaeril foot punch.
Amazing tip bro.
I'm late to the party but thanks for the help, honestly the reason the platforming is so bad is they don't give benefit of the doubt, if one pixel makes it you landed in other platformers, instead they go full doubt to the point if one pixel touches the side or top of something your instantly treated to a wall, the characters land on almost every surface like it's ice instead of rough, traction gripping surfaces and almost every part of it just shows how bad the top down type of camera angle was the worst possible choice for this franchise. It almost makes me wish that the other half of their original developers who went with crytek took the game instead which is a bad thought because a lot of other parts of this game were so enjoyable. The fighting with war felt fun, the shooting with strife was enjoyable even if I felt under powered at times and the abilities and other puzzles were a little simple but fun enough to do to break up the hack and slash fun. If they do ever make a DS4 I hope they go back to 3rd person or at least a movable camera and either refine the platforming or make the platforming stupid simple that the negatives of their platforming can't be noticed
You said it.
And thanks for the video. It did help me confirm I was going in the right direction.
Первый и последний раз каждого ряда всегда безопасны.
Картина следующая:
1. Для 1-го ряда оставьте 3 платформы между ними, приземляйтесь на каждую 4-ю плитку.
2. Для 2-го ряда оставьте 2 платформы между ними, приземляйтесь на каждую 3-ю плитку.
3. 3-й ряд такой же, как и 1-й ряд, оставьте 3 платформы между ними, приземляйтесь на каждую 4-ю плитку,
Just for anyone who wants to know. It's also possible to skip the last bit by clambering on top of the leviathan and getting slingshotted over but it takes some trial and error.
I think they patched it long back... unless u tried it recently ?
@@DesiMando_YT made it happen right before I posted that reply, but it took a few tries and the thing had to fly through at just the right angle to pretty much jump at it and get tail whipped over
@syylone1997 oh is it... then I will give it try as well as m stuck with this for my platinum
@@DesiMando_YT I could maybe try to show you how I did it if you want?
@@syylone1997 thanks... will try for a week if i cant get it as shown in this video then i'll take you up on ur words :)
For any game dev out there, this is how not to do a good platforming section !
Impressive. I will never do that myself ;-)
I haven't attempted this yet but they just released a patch making it more fair and easy apparently. As well as a bunch of other fixes.
Yeah as someone who is still stuck in the third part of this at 2 am in the morning, i might have to say this is bullshit
@@famineinfernal1 Lmao.
They didn't fix your character having boots made of ice, the way you just slide off of platforms a lot...
@@danbailey5065 Lol
All they added was a couple of those blue orbs that boost you up on part 3 so it makes it a little easier if you fall. The last section of part 3 is still complete bs
Very hard and unfair, somehow i managed it after 5 hours.
😭
Thank you! finally got the trophy.
To all struggling u can use graphics menu under options to slow gameplay.
TwelvetoedGameDog! Thanks so much! I just beat part 1 with about 10 tries because of this adjustment!
@@remmy1219 np literally made that adjustment and got part 1 on first go after hours of fighting it at full speed.
TwelvetoedGameDog! What? That motion blur thing?
@@rubee666 Not sure. I think slowing gameplay helped more just didn't want any chance at an altered visual on that platforming.
Turning off motion blur seemed to make mine a bit smoother but slowing it down made it even more annoying for me.
Judging by this video and the comments, this is a resounding nope.
Leviathan's Gorge + Soul Arbiter's Maze = Leviathan's Maze
Hope to see Soul Arbiter's Gorge in the next Darksiders game.
So uh.... I was just messing around to try and save my sanity of the last verticle part and you can actually get on top of the leviathan when it flys towards the screen and Idk how but I jumped off and glided over that whole part and landed on the core...
Did it recognise as you completing the maze as well (did you get the side quest notification in game that comes with a prize)?
@@mightymanofvalour8691 Yep as far as the game is concerned I did it legit
@@UrLocalZaddy great. Did you jump on to his head or body?
@@mightymanofvalour8691 The video I linked replying to myself shows exactly how it happened and the quest completing and reward. I noticed however the leviathans flight pattern is somewhat random but I'm not sure if this affects how consistently you can perform it
@@UrLocalZaddy thank you. I’m not seeing the link on this thread though???
Edit: Never mind. Found you on a search
Combat's cool, puzzles are cool but the platforming takes a giant dump on your patience. It just feels awkward with this type of "top down" gameplay. For me at least. I'm not fond of platforming to begin with and this game kicks you in the nutts with it.
if I do this I am so gonna punch my monitor and make a hole
Me and the girl spent close to a total of 4hrs trying to do this one night. Had to turn down the game speed in order to accomplish it which made its seem longer.
^This. T H I S. This should be a pinned comment imho. I cannot express how much this lowers the frustration and overall difficulty of this abomination of platforming which was forsaken by every single god I know. Even though the 3rd section has been eased with addition of 2 shortcuts after you finish each sub-section (I assume those were absent at some previous game versions), it still took few tries to complete the last sub-section. For me, perfect speed was second from left side of bar. Abuse it. Abuse triangle for mid-air stop. Good luck, have faith, keep trying - its possible.
Shoutout to the dev, this really makes you feel like a kid that was never loved by his parents, grew up and decided to program this god awful "puzzle"
Do yourself a favour, grab that last core via the glitch and be done with it.
What is the glitch?
May I ask how you reach the second spinning platform in part 2? I crash into it every time I attempt a jump similar to the one you do at 1:23.
It rotates but also rises and falls over a few seconds, you have to watch it as it starts going down and then jump.
@@RockLuca6 I was able to do it after reading your comment. Thank you so much!
@@csmegamanhackfan5921 Np bro :)!
I can't do this jump, Strife collides with something invisible... some help?
@@Raikator97 That's the problem. You gotta stand on the far edge and jump straight (slightly upward) to the left not to hit the invisible wall, and the double jump upward. And you have to time the rotate platform when it's moving down a bit.
2:45 that Segment ist completely broken to me. I can not jump off walls again. I have been trying for half an hour now. Sometimes i get to the spikes, but most of the times, i just fall, slide or glide down without ryme or reason. This is infuriating.
This whole segment is complete bullshit.
I have that issue sometimes, but other times it works flawlessly. Not sure what the issue is, but when it decides not to work, I find jumping to the wall then not pressing any direction until just after I hit the next wall seems to work (if that makes sense). Kind of like;
-jump into wall (from the bottom), release direction
-wait til top of wall climb animation
-press jump button *without* pressing any direction
-when wall cling triggers, press direction into wall
That usually triggers the next wall run animation, but if not, spamming jump back to the other wall then back again seems to fix the animation.
Also sorry for so much text lol. Hope this helps somewhat.
Sto smattando!!! Non va neanche a me
Use Silver War! i had The same problem but with silver war nope
not gonna lie I didn't think this was overly hard. Once I realized that it's all about inputs I just tapped back once I was over the little purple pillars and got past stage one in like 5min (to be fair I played around on that earlier getting the boatman coin at the top for like 10min). Stage 2 took like 10min just figuring out the timings and angles and stuff (I don't think many people have a problem with stage 2). Stage 3 took like 20min the 2 checkpoints you get were really handy IMO because you just speedrun all the way until the little rock things but you can just air kick your way down and never fall on them and after that, it's just figuring out the timing of the final jumps, and even if you mess up you can air kick and go at a lower level so I really don't see a problem with it. This definitely isn't a platformer game, the times I did fail it felt more like the game's stupidity than my own skill but I still think it wasn't overly hard. Then again I play games like Cuphead, Sekiro on demon mode, DS3, I wanna be the Boshi, etc for fun so I have a lot of experience with difficult/mechanically intense games. Good luck everyone!
Is there a second air current after the row section in part 3?
I'm having the worst time with the wall jumping section, I see what you're doing, but I the mechanics are so damn cluncky on the PS4. Any help would be appreciated.
What's the trick to actually jumping from platform to platform for the final 3rd of the final part? Do you technically walk off the platform, then jump or what?
Edit: Never mind, I figured it out.
I used leviathan to slingshot over that garbage.
Took me about an hour to get to the last vertical jumping bs. Can't even get going on it 😂
Puta que pariu, caralho, porra.
Finalmente depois de mais de 5 horas conseguir passar nesse caminho do cacete. Mas só conseguir por causa da dica do vídeo. Valeu obrigado.
Desejo todo a desgraça do mundo para o desenvolvedor que fez isso.
2:55 *screaming intensly later*
first row is actually every 2nd tile, but 4 also works go figure anyway back to screaming
AAGGHGHHHH
ps. SCREW ALLL OF THIS, but htank you for hte video very helpful
The 2:46 mark sucks. I can't truly figure out the jumping mechanics when you run up a wall. Do I just hold the controller in the direction I want to jump at the same time as hitting the jump button?
Edit: Got it with War. Much easier.
Once you complete the second part of the 3rd part, do you get a blue check point orb? That way you don't have to do the 2nd part of the 3rd part again?
That airkick abuse saved me a few braincels.
No wonder the game is cheap these hard things that you need to do perfectly just to get something by standing on something perfectly is so annoying
thank you my friend
Imagine creating hard platform level on the mechanic that works as shit. Great work devs...
F this segment very much. After a lot of trial and error, I managed to get to the final area at 4:00 legit but after maybe a hundred attempts I just said screw it and turned the game speed down to the minimum in the settings. Still had to do it in 2 or 3 tries in slow motion since even when slowed, it still demands perfect jumps. I figured if the game is gonna be cheap, then I’ll just do the same. What sucked the most is that even though they add jump pads when you reach that part, you still have to keep doing the first row of disappearing tiles to get there. I ran that part so many times I can probably do the first row blindfolded due to muscle memory. Screw this part and big F you to the people that made it.
Try it on keyboard it's worse
For the rows with safe and fake tiles in the third part, on the lowest row it's actually every second tile that is safe. In other words, you must skip (at least) as many tiles as the row you're on.
at the 3 stage, on the 1row you can go one on two
wow i must have missed a lot in this game i didnt come across this part
edit: went and did it and it took me 4 hours lmfao. I'm on pc with keyboard, so it's doable in case anyone is wondering
Never really noticed until now that strifes jumping and doodging sounds like deaths from ds2
Sorry... how do you do that mid-air "Strife-kick?"
I can't seem to be able to find the particular control...
You have to purchase the ability from Dis first. I believe it's called Scorpion Heel. The game will tell you what button to hit to use it.
@@tobiasfangor8809 Thank you!
The worst part of this is missing that first tile of the last section, then having to hear that stupid air kick sound effect for 10 minutes because Strife keeps slipping off the fucking tiles on the way back.
If you fall on the second section do you start from the beginning of the second section? Does it save your progress?
Who the hell thought platforming like this would be a good idea in this game? Platforming is such a weak spot for this type of perspective and creates the very opposite of fun. If this game had the same perspective as the other games in the series, then platforming like this would be fine.
I know it’s useless now and it has been a long time since release but… WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?! Holy shit this is terrible
WHAT WERE THEY THINK!!!!!!!?????
Putting a stage like this into a game like this is like tossing a used band-aid into a fresh chicken parm. hoagie...
Nice run...
That is a fantastic metaphor mate
I am having a hell of a time in phase 2. I can get around the corner of the mountain to the wall-run section, but for the life of me I cannot figure out what I'm supposed to be landing on. I get to the top of the thing, jump off, and invariably glide into oblivion. This vid makes it look like there's some sort of ledge *behind* the foreground pillar that's the target, but I am certainly having no luck hitting it. Any advice would be appreciated. BTW, I'm playing on a PS4Pro in case that affects things (such as: there is no Graphics option to slow gameplay as mentioned elsewhere in the comments).
Did you ever revisit this? I'm on PS4 and the option to slow the gameplay presents as an "assist" slider, but so far I really only needed it while guiding the aether spark through the tiny moving squares in the gauntlet section.
@@syylone1997 I finished the game so apparently this wasn't a permanent stumbling block, but honestly it's been so long that I don't recall precisely what I did.
Is there a checkpoint after the 3 lines of bars when you get to the top of the cliff?
no only checkpoints are next to the teleports when you get a core.
@@KyKiske7 thanks, yeah figured that out.
You have to jump at a certain angle it pisses me off
I'm stuck Part 3 ... I don't know but my character has troubles jumping and running against wall to get to the plateforms . This part seems so easy on video , i must be doing something wrong but i don't understand what .
Use War for the wall run mate, He'll climb the wall better.
@@burnzombie4354 Yeah , I used him after and i never had troubles again :) Thanks . Leviathan challenge done after like 8 hours lol
I cant even get passed the 1st stage. I'm failing earlier and earlier and my eyes are starting to go funny because of the top down view making it look like dots pulsing when you jump up and down. Imagine making something so bad it hurts the players eyes. Seriously who made this. I want a list of their fears and their loved ones addresses.
hit your L2 to drop fast on the poles
Do i need to beat this plattform section to get any trophy/Achivement ?
The answer to that is NO
@@didiix_93 yes actually, as the Core at the end of the Maze is required for the achievement for collecting all cores
@@Gigzymandias A glitch is possible in order to get the core at the end.
What platform are you playing on?
This made me quit going for the 100% the platforming in this game is so ass and then they do this
How the hell did you got the first stage done? I can't get through the platforms damn it...
Thanks this is not necessary to obtain any trophy. God damn! 🤪
This game is fun, this segment is not... I get adding a challenge, this isn't a challenge. This is learning what part of the slightly sloped edge is a flat surface and what part is a "kick-off the player he didn't do it right" spot. Also, for anyone having issues controlling themselves airborne(i know i do), shooting strifes guns while your wings aren't out will make you lose all momentum, good for landing on objects that do not require pixel perfect placements.
The person who "designed" this piece of shit should be locked down and forced to play this over and over again until he would understand the mistake he made. In addition to that all who is thinking about making games in the future should be obliged to play this 8 hour per day every day for the first year of their studies to learn HOW NOT to design levels in games
Is there any chance we can see darksiders four for strife in third person version?
3rd stage pattern doesnt work. 2or3 between 1st row random
Whats the Core from completing the quest to get to the end of this puzzle?
The leviathan core
At max rank it provides you with the following buffs
+10% Attack and Wrath Power and +10% Max Health
This is the WORST platforming section I've ever experienced in a game. Bad perspective, inconsistent controls, you need to land PERFECTLY on tiny platforms to not slide off. I've played through every darksiders game and even though this is optional it's turning me off from playing any future darksiders games. Eff the devs
Bruh! You are fucking sick!
It's impossible. Made it past the first part but can't get past the 2nd part I try to fallow what was did in the vid, but game keeps on talling me not today and I fall. Good times let me tell you. Like trying to just on a nail head
my gamepad would not have survived this
This is the single worst section of any video I have ever played in my entire life. I cannot fathom how how sain human being could possibly think this was ok. Its a mindbogglingly idiotic piece of game design.