God of War Ragnarok - Part 8
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 พ.ย. 2022
- Atreus heads to Asgard and hangs out with Odin and Thor in God of War Ragnarok
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God of War Ragnarök is an action-adventure video game developed by Santa Monica Studio and the sequel to 2018's God of War. Based on Norse mythology, the game will be set in ancient Scandinavia and feature series protagonist Kratos and his teenage son Atreus. - เกม
Hope you guys are still enjoying the series! This episode means we're over halfway through it now!!
aww man kinda happy that we witnessed half of the game but kinda sad that it is ending
Hi
Edit: that's understandable @i_like_chicken_wings
Love the series Sean. Keep up the amazing work!
Heck yeah! Can't wait to see the rest of this journey!
best series ong
Atreus is pretty bold to expect to not be questioned after disappearing for 2 days straight.
It’s more like he didn’t expect it would be a full 2 days of disappearance, which he didn’t even intend on doing in the first place. On top of that he now has to hide the existence of Ironwood and Jotunheim so that it doesn’t get dragged in to the conflict.
So since he feels like he can’t explain his disappearance and his father immediately goes to the worst case scenario, his frustration explodes. Less bold, more teenage emotions imo.
@@CedonZar he definitely panicked, tho he wasn't in too big of a hurry to leave ironwood. If only he brainstormed with angrboda what he'd say he was doing before having to come up with something on the spot and ending up making himself look way more suspicious than it was. Definitely teenage emotions
@@elizabethdragonclaw2916 I feel like he doesn't hurry because he might think that he'll come back teleported like how he got there in the first place
@@fikrikhalish6705 I mean even if he was teleported back to the dwarves' house, 2 days still would've passed. Sure, atreus may not have realized that 2 whole days passed, but he had no reason to believe that time flowed differently in the ironwood, nor did he have any reason to believe that his absence would go unnoticed. Even if everything that happened in ironwood happened in one day for atreus, it was a lot of time spent there, especially for someone whos supposed to just be asleep in their room. I feel like it's partly on him for being so nonchalant about teleporting to a foreign world and not thinking about what was happening in the realm between realms, but also partly on angrboda for not explaining that days will have passed. It was always "you can stay if you want" and not "hey time moves faster here than where you're from, you should know that before you decide if you want to stay longer"
I was just dreaming, dad. I swear!
A good touch to show odins manipulative nature is when he transported him to Asgard with the ravens, he could’ve easily sent him to the palace but instead he made him climb the wall and meet heimdall only to tell heimdall to back off and win lokis favor and make him think he’s actually nice
Yeah, the whole time I was thinking “all of this is completely intentional”
Even him meeting that guy by that village, it was all planned to make Odin look good. And notice, he makes himself look good by shitting on other people! Right after Heimdal and Thor get going, Odin belittles them to Atreus!
@@cinderfox5217 indeed it's like 'if these important people are being criticised but, I'm welcomed and praised I must be really important to him'
This! I was thinking about this the entire time!
And on top of that, Odin probably knew Heimdall would choose to fight Loki, maybe even counted on it. The fight end up getting him all dirty giving Odin the opportunity to offer clean clothes.
Like imagine if Loki walked in and Odin offered clothes straight away. He probably would have refused or at least been much more hesitant. As that would be a way of 'distancing' himself.
But since Loki was offered a clean pair of clothes opposed to wearing his now dirty armor, it's a kind gesture and he doesn't think about how it further pulls him into Odin's grasp. He wasn't given a choice.
This could be looking wayyy into it lol but it's something i'm honestly in awe of. Odin is masterfully written and as much as I "dislike" seeing Atreus make these terrible decisions as if he *has* to be the only one carrying this burden, I'm really enjoying seeing how this (probably) develops into him "accidentally" fulfilling the prophecy.
Hoping Kratos' plan works tho
@@alyssaanguiano5821 bruh i was too concentrated on how menacing thor is/paying attention to story i didn't even let my brain start speculating on why odin didn't send him inside the wall, all i thought was "odin acting mighty sus"
It could also be that since Heimdall can read people's intentions, Odin could get insight into Atreaus' motives before interacting with him in order to further hone his manipulation
"I watch your mouth move and I see citites burning" is one of the hardest hitting lines of this whole game. The writing is spectacular.
Given how Atreus is the one who pushed the events that led to Ragnarok into happening its also fact. Well him and Odin.
And another great nod to Loki having a silver tongue in the Norse Myths
Every time Odin speaks I get this uncomfortble passive-aggressive vide.
The overall writing of the game is amazing, however, this particular line stood out to me the most of any games.
except for when they wrote atreus to be completely irrational
Broks reaction to atreus becoming a bear was the funniest shit
Dude the second I heard that I laughed so hard.
What the fuck
A perfectly reasonable response to seeing a friend suddenly turn into a bear
@@tylerchapin2207 brok is the most human character
11:52
Odin in this doesn't come off as intimidating like Thor. He is very suave and charismatic and a little friendly and that makes him dangerous.
bruh, the second he started listing off everything atraus was feeling and validating his thoughts and concerns was the moment I went "Ohhh he's playing him like a fiddle..."
I mean, that's kind of the thing with him. Odin is more of a cunning trickster and knowledge seeker, rather than a fierce warrior. (Though he is that as well when needed)
He's a psycho
That's basically Odin in Norse mythology
Yeah he can conceal his true nature really well. Only those who know him for a long time can really tell who he is. For example - Freya, who was his wife for a while. She has quite a few stories about what an asshole Odin actually is
Seán: I thought Thor was going to be jollier…
Thor in background: how the *F U C K* am I supposed to know
“I have a plan”
Last time Kratos had a plan he brought down a pantheon.
“Do not doubt the lengths I will go to”
I really dont doubt any😂
Last time he said he had a plan he dropped Thamur's hammer on ice without having any guarantee that it would work lol
So what we’ve learned is, Kratos’ plans aren’t as much plans, they’re more so ideas that MIGHT work
@@TheInvincibleLincoln plans don’t have a guarantee to go wrong that’s literally why people typically have what’s called a “plan B”
@@MeRamblingOnAbout but since he's Kratos they do work.
His "plans" are more so just suggestions based off of previous plot armour scenerios. 😅 Its like Thor said: "Was it luck?" Yes, Thor. It was "blind fvcking luck".
Odin: The only way to talk to Thor is by being hard on him. He doesn't respond to kindness.
Me, looking at his parenting style: Golly gee, I have no diddly darn idea why that might be true...
Maybe it’s the mead he’s been drinking 😂😂😂😂
Kratos yelling “BOY!” is really enough to let the audience know that a) Kratos is PISSED and b) that Atreus is being irrational
Yes
Yeah, that stood out to me as well. Atreus definitely lost a lot of Kratos' respect for him with this move.
“What do i call you?”
I was waiting for jack to scream “BOY” with him
@@robertnadile8730 Right I was sad when he didn’t react to that. I could be wrong, but I think that’s the only time he calls Atreus “Boy” in this entire game.
Atreus: *Gets mad at friends and family for thinking he went to Asgard after disappearing for 2 days with no explanation*
Atreus: *Proceeds to go to Asgard*
The second hand cringe is real, he was being a twat in the last game too when he realized he was a God. I swear, every time Atreus does something independently of Kratos, it always turns out to be a bad decision
Welp. Might as well give em something to be mad at
Let's be honest, teenagers are special like that.
It's the faze of your life where you make most mistakes, that later hunt you nightmares.
@@KawaiianArgument he turn from a little twat, to slightly amicable to a little twat again. I call that character regression.
Angrboda was a major factor in this because she told Atreus to keep the Ironwood part of Jotunheim a secret and that combined with his restlessness is what made him attack everyone and leave to Asgard
The way Seán addresses the teenagers in a chill calm tone and then when he addresses the parents by yelling is exactly the type of “how the tables have turned” shit I appreciate. FINALLY it’s not me being yelled at 🥹🥹
As a parent, I can attest we need to be yelled at 😂 Sean addressed it well, and may every child/parent relationship be mended.
Even as a 28-year old, I still remember all the times where I heard and read "teenagers do x" or "teenagers are y" in one scornful tone after another., only making me feel more alone, especially as I didn't have much in common with other teenage peers and was isolated for it. I suppose there's something positive in remembering this and resolving to at least try to end this generic "MY GENERATION WAS BETTER THAN THE NEXT ONE" farce.
ditto@@corvespid4925
@@michelleashleighI'll take note for my bubbas 😂😂❤
AND acknowledged that some people just have shitty parents and this advice wont work for them
Odin really has a silver tongue. i think it helps that he doesn’t SOUND like a villain, and he doesn’t talk like one, and he doesn’t act like one (when he knows you’re looking). he’s a very good villain, basically. i can’t wait to use him as inspiration in my future novels, because he’s an amazing character in this game to study.
Reminda me of Lalo Salamanca and Douma
Truly, I believe that I've been writing too many villains that have understandable ideals and such but this game made me realise how much I've been sleeping on truly evil villains like Odin that does bad things and makes it feel like they weren't anyone's fault or your own
I know FatBrett even did a video study on him.
I agree, hope you succeed on your novels
Whoever wrote the dialogue lines of Odin is a great writer. You know he's manipulative and a sociopath but you can't help be taken in by his charms
Hell I feel like trusting him rn lol
People think that since Loki is the god of mischief there can only be one trickster god in the pantheon. Odin is as much of a trickster and death god as he is god of wisdom.
I KNOW RIGHT? I feel so stupid for genuinely laughing or smiling at him, knowing what he's done and is planning on doing. But it's just automatic and it makes me feel gullible 💀
The whole character of Odin, how he acts and what he does in front of Atreus, is the perfect depiction of how kids are groomed.
Shit, yes you can.
That moment when Kratos shouts "BOY!" as Atreus is running away, that gave me chills. You know Kratos has had enough of Atreus' teenage tantrums when he calls him "boy" again after calling him by his name all the time. That's the equivalent of a parent in the real world calling their child by their full name.
Boy = your unabbreviated, frilly middle names included and otherwise never ever used full-form name. Only ever used by those closest in your life and then only in pivotal moments where they specifically want you to feel as young/small as possible in order to regain control.
We all wish it didn’t work as well as it truly does. Every damn time 😝
For me it was always just first plus middle....Rebecca Alleine (al-leen). It always just had that *"ah,shit"* ring to it, it was enough 😅
My maternal grandpa taught me a more panick inducing version of the full name. You take a deep breath and lower your voice to a deeper octave, when you say their name, you add more power at the end of each syllable. He would use this against the parents of his kids spouses and I've seen the wave of goosebumps travel throughout a room, it also instantly makes kids and emotionally weak people start crying, and makes animal terrified
@@risac.8384 im built different
Judging by how Kratos is in this game i think its more a yell of concern and worry rather then anger, Kratos could easily stop Atreus if he really wanted to, and he's not the hardass tough love parent as he used to be.
1:32:30 Just to clear this up for anyone wondering. At this moment in the game, there's two Jormungandr's. The old one chilling in Midgard and the young one they created in Jotunheim. The young one will fight Thor in Ragnarok and get sent to the past, while the old one will stay in Midgard.
Ah thanks for that
The fact that nearly ALL of the comments are people going, "Odin clearly set this all up... he's a silver-tongued devil... can't trust him but he makes you like him" is goddamn proof of what a monster he truly is. The fact that we, the viewers, and Jack, and Kratos and company, ALL SEE IT, yet Atreus doesn't... it's beyond frustrating, but so accurate to real life and broken kids clinging to hope of any kind.
Fuck, I love this game
Oh no. Atreus KNOWS Odin is trying to play him, but he feels like he has Jo other choice but to try and play him back in the hope of saving his father
Atreus doesn't know that he's in a video-game. We do. Of course things are more obvious to us.
When Kratos yelled out *”BOY!!”* I knew Atreus royally fucked up because at the end of God of War 2018, Kratos went through a journey with his son where he learned to trust, rely and even move forward to calling his own son, son, insinuating that he’s finally ready to be a father not just a mentor… him calling Atreus boy again just feels like such a huge step backwards- for the both of them
I NOTICED THAT TOO.
It's a return to the dynamic they used to have. After all, if Atreus is going to lie, deceive and continue his snarky attitude, Kratos would respond in kind. After all, he would view Atreus even considering speaking to Odin as a betrayal of not just his trust, but his very self.
That is true
Yeah, that was really heartsinking. Atreus is really being a butthole.
timestamp please??
Odin: "Of course he came to betray me. I've not given him any reason not to."
I know Odin is a master manipulator.
But goddam, he's good.
Wait was he trying to manipulate us? 💀
@@rencedionson3795 ye he acts nice to gain your trust then backstabs
@@volkygames2314 Yeah that is his entire MO in this series. Every single tale we get involving him starts with him being nice then showing his true colors and making everything a waking nightmare for everyone involved (but him).
@@rencedionson3795 His type of manipulating is really good
@@rencedionson3795 the dude could’ve teleported Atreus with his ravens, makes him climb a wall for him to “accidentally” meet Heimdall who is a jerk. Suddenly, he’s in mud because of climbing the wall and fighting Heimdall. And then suddenly there is already clean clothes prepared for him…
I love how at 59:18 Odin turns to look at Heimdall but he goes to look behind him where he was standing before he moved onto his right - which he can't see because he doesn't have his right eye, therefore lacking peripheral vision. Such cool little details in this game I love it! :)
High quality detail
Actually it's a form of manipulation; sure he knows that Heimdall has moved, but by acting surprised he presents himself from a more vulnerable side so as to appear more human, more relatable to Atreus. Someone who has little slip ups like that, especially if they add comedic value to them as Odin did, gives a far more appealing first impression, which is precisely what Odin strives for in this scene; he needs Atreus to feel good about him
@@sebb3301 It isn't clear if it was intentional, but even if it wasn't he'd recognise and use the opportunity for sure.
@@sebb3301 I had the same feeling when he jumped from Thor appearing suddenly. Thor has served Odin for countless lifetimes, Odin would definitely be used to him coming as soon as he calls for him.
Additional detail, the reason Heimdall moves to the side Odin is missing an eye is to protectively cover his blindspot in case atreus tries anything
The way Kratos screamed “BOY!” when Atreus was running away. I was expecting the most ungodly ass whipping imaginable.
The Belt of Olympus is coming off
@@captainbirch2.079 kratos finna use orion's belt on his ass 😂
Sandle of olympus
the leviathan belt
Kratos was gonna be the next boss battle...
Damn Odin really is the definition of gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss
And toxic parenting
19:34 best advice ever “COMMUNICATION IS KEY”
"Girlboss"?
"Girlboss"?
Godboss
I love how they nailed down the "manipulative and emotionally abusive father" persona with Odin so well. Every word is a silk-smooth lie with shiny things attached to make it seem like he cares. Everything is to push his own agenda. He knows when to praise and when to humiliate. He knows how to get in your head and make you think he has your best interests in mind.
And here we all thought Jörmungandr was the snake in the grass...
All my homies hate Odin
@@thejaded I’m one of those homies.
Tbh jormy is a snake in the mountains not in the grass.
At least Jörmungandr is honest about being a snake. Odin gaslights you into thinking *your* the snake
@@highfivedog2336 I also like to be known as a "homies"
I feel like Thor was looking out for Atreus when they returned from getting the mask piece. The way he quickly deflected the idea that he may have taught Atreus anything and almost seemed to be warning the boy with his comment about his relationship with Odin being similar to how it was with Baldur just makes me feel that way.
You could make an argument he was.. 😅 It makes sense with his character, he acts out in fear a little.
I think Atreus running out is one of my favorite scenes in the game, from Mimir backing kratos to the dramatic transformation to the bear and then topped off perfectly with kratos calling him boy for the first time in this game
ATREUS WAS BOUTTA GET HIS AHH WHOOPED 😂😂
@@thejadedback in the old days if you talked to your folks like that you got the belt. And damn sure Atreus was about to feel that shit.
@@darkvizardking69you are a victim bro, get help
59:19 The comedy of Odin having to turn again because he has no right peripheral and didn't see Heimdall move to that side, incredible
It just... They didn't need to do it, but it made the scene so much better
That's such a stupid and unnecessary detail but holy hell that's the funniest shit I've seen all week lmao.
The way he just awkwardly takes the second turn is just too good.
I like to also think It was a mistake they made when filming the scenes and rolled with it
If I knew a guy with one eye, I would do this to him all the time
Yeah, the first time I saw that, I laughed for a good minute.
The way Odin is portrayed here really exceeded any and all expectations I had. He looks and sounds humble, not dressed like a king who lives in a palace. The mafia boss comparison and how Mimir described him are so spot on. You know he CANNOT be trusted, yet he has that captivating charisma. He's legit scary.
"If he tells you snow is white, he's lying."
That's what I was thinking the whole time. He's making Atreus feel seen and needed and important, which makes it easy to get him to do what he wants. Atreus doesn't know he's being handled.
when i was describing Odin in this game to some friends i legit called him a Used Car Salesman, which just resonated with my group of friends, in how slimy or even down right scammy like i guess fictional used car salesmen are, idk if they are actually like that xD
Odin throws in sentences "And they call me the bad guy", "I'm not your father", that manipulate while talking.
He is not that subtle, but you can't help but feel drawn to him.
And the blinders of ego and/or those simply demanding they WANT to fuck up on their own in order to learn without a teacher. In a way, I can be like that with various things. I'd rather royally fuck up with a decision in order to learn a lesson than I ever would take anyone's experiences or instructions. Literally have said "LET ME FUCK UP ON MY OWN! IF I DO SOMETHING, AND I GET FUCKED OVER FOR IT, THEN LET ME DEAL WITH THAT. IF IT TURNS OUT I DIDN'T FUCK UP AND ANY CONFIDENCE I HAD IN MY DECISION WAS CORRECT, LET ME APPRECIATE THAT TOO." Ironically, it's because I've had a very manipulative and egotistic authoritative father myself. So, we've just came full circle!
He's a lot like my dad, glad I'm moved out now but yea all those things he's giving now are going to be 'favors' later on and they will get worse with time.
Jack about Sif: Look at that hair!
Atreus: I should avoid her.
Me: *Slowly growing maniacal laughter*
YES I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING 😭
Is it that myth of loki's prank?
why the slow maniacal laughter? am i missing something here?
EDIT: i get it now, i know about the lore of Sif now.
@@FuryousD basically, there's a myth in Norse mythology where Loki cut's off Sif's (famously beautiful) hair while she sleeps and curses her so it won't grow back. Long story short, one thing leads to another, Thor is pissed, Loki gets dwarves involved, and it leads to the creation of Mjolnir, among other relics. Really convoluted when summarized, but the whole "Loki cuts Sif's hair" thing is the joke
yea i found that out after i made the comment, but since i was on my phone at the time i couldn't edit my comment (thanks for that TH-cam app).@@zephanshell15
Odin: I'm not your father
Literally five minutes later
Odin: calls Atreus "son"
Me: WEEWOOWEEWOOWEEWOO 😱
Just like the Patrick meme 😂
“wee woo… wee woo… Wee Woo… WEE WOO… WEEWOOWEEWOOWEEOO”
Young Jack: SPEED IS KEY
older wiser Jack: COMMUNICATION IS KEY
@@merej_yt you know out of all the “pls subscribe to me” bots I have ever seen. That’s one of the more creative ones I’ve ever seen
Came here to post the same thing and you beat me to it 😂
@@merej_ytI love curses 😻
@@bocobipbrookiebradgaming7838 this is legit the most common one lmao
@@merej_yt death can have me when it earns me
Jack before meeting Odin: He’ll lie and manipulate you, going to Asgard is the dumbest possible move
Jack after meeting Odin: “I believe him! He can gaslight me all he wants!”
That was sarcasm tho...
@@sauce8148 thats what he wants you to think
They REALLY went and made a character that perfectly embodies all the charisma of a cult leader. Like DAMN good charisma.
@@sauce8148 fully aware
@@SirPotato43 who?
Jack saying that odin is doing some palpatine shit was so relatable
LMAO
Remember the girl said Atreus can’t tell his dad. So Atreus is hella conflicted. He’s trying to protect his dad without telling him and he ends up making them not trust him in the process. I feel for him. So much pressure
The reasonable solution is to say "I have been sworn to secrecy by a very trusted friend to not speak of my whereabouts the last two days in order to protect them.
I can tell you that I have not been to Asgard and I have not spoken to Odin nor any of Odin's associates."
@@EpicScizor this is exactly what has been bugging me my entire playthrough
@@EpicScizor he’s keeping no less of a secret regardless and so Kratos is going to distrust him all the same
@@saidbtk yeah, but a major part of that distrust came from the idea of him going to Asgard, for him to outright deny it from the beginning would have been way better for him and his father.
@@KnightJauneArc he literaly said he didn't go to asgard?
Atreus: *sees him joining Odin on the mural* "I would never do that!"
Also Atreus: *proceeds to join Odin*
He joined odin to clash against the prophecy since you know, it says his dad'll die then he'll join odin.
@@nizzbizz3087 It really feels like people forgot the order of the prophecy. It kind of makes sense to me that the girl says the end is all ways the same while the journey can be different. Maybe you can skip a mural if you do something ahead of schedule is probably what Atreus was thinking. He's definitely had time to think since his time in Ironwood. The only person that gets a pass is Jack because he's been playing the entire time without being able to watch and skip ahead some of the sidequest thanks to the editing.
@@bradleymoore2797
I freaking adore this logic. If the prophecy says dad dies then I join, well if I just join I'll skip dad dying.. it's a brilliant explanation for why hes doing this. I mean, it's also wrong and extremely dumb.. but, for a desperate and lost BOY, it kinda makes sense.
@@karenamyx2205 yea a lot of these people are just kratos dick riders and anything Atreus does is wrong wen all he want to do his rescue his dad.
@@karenamyx2205 Then again, Kratos all ready fought Thor, died and Thor was like not yet and brought Kratos back. Atreus didn't see that. Prophecy could be on track 100%
If Atreus really managed to get Mimir angry then you know he done messed up. I love Mimir and his brotherly protection and uncle-like treatment towards Atreus. He's really keeping the family whole.
Really makes you think how different things would have been if he wasn't there.
Kratos wouldn't have learned as much as he did about trust and all that without Mimir.
Atreus would have actually had it worse.
There are 3 gods yelling at Atreus and they wonder why he freaks out
So true!
Let’s be honest… they yell at him for a very good reason. He wants to go meet Odin, who has wronged all of those who were yelling at him in one way or another. He was being reckless and endangering himself and everyone else in that house by thinking about meeting Odin.
Really wild that Atreus never thought to look at his dad and say "I just laid down to take a nap and woke up here, I don't know what happened dad!" Which isn't a lie and could have saved everyone a lot of trouble
I was thinking the exact same thing💀💀💀
It kind of bothers me that many people are forgetting that Atreus' outburst was more than just teen rebellion and naive youthful thinking. He truly was caught between a rock and a hard place- he can't reveal Ironwood because he was sworn to secrecy, and everyone in the room ganged up on him and didn't make me feel safe trying to communicate what really happened. Now granted, Atreus also did a shit show job of explaining himself as well, but Kratos wasn't very trusting to begin with either. On top of that, Freya instigated the idea of Atreus already being in kahoots with Odin into Kratos head. So idk, I think there's definitely a lot of miscommunication and secrecy/some resentment between Kratos and atreus especially around Atreus upbringing, I just hope they can come to an understanding and Kratos won't actually die :((
Agreed, secrecy, lack of trust, and miscommunications along with fear, anger, and other emotions is definitely playing a part in this whole situation. It feels like multiple characters are inadvertently making things more difficult than it needs to be, but I suppose that is a reflection of the current situation. They can't just sit and twiddle their thumbs doing nothing, but the options they do have and the general disagreement between different members of the group is making the situation rather difficult.
i wouldn't say ganging up on him. you have 3 people there who were tortured and abused horrendously by odin, so of course they are gonna have something to say when atreus brings up the idea of going to asgard. do you expect them not to? kratos hid the truth from him, but as far as i can recall, he didn't lie. he never told atreus that he was a mortal, he just didn't tell him that he was a god. that isn't lying. kratos should have told him about the god part but other than that, kratos didn't need to tell him anything of his past imo. that isn't for atreus to know. either way, that stuff was 3 years ago. during those 3 years, atreus went behind kratos's back and investigated the giants and tyr with sindri, never telling kratos about it until he had to. he then turned right around and snuck out to meet jorm and risk death to meet freya behind kratos's back. even after kratos forgave the tyr stuff and told atreus that he just wants him to be honest with him, he does this crap. yes, miscommunication is a problem but i think the biggest problem is that atreus doesn't think things through at all when it comes to anything to do with the prophecy or the giants. he just rushes head first into things blindly and it causes problems. he didn't think about how promising not to tell about ironwood would put him in this position of having to lie to kratos. if he took some time to actually stop and use his head and plan stuff out and think about things, i think a lot of these conflicts could be avoided completely.
@@justarandompepe8961
In the cutscene where Atreus returns from Asgard to tell about what happened when he freed Garm, the same situation happened where everyone in the group was yelling at him AGAIN and Kratos had to step in and say enough. That was intentional, to reflect on the previous situation again, except Kratos SUPPORTS his son. Kratos whole apology scene was literally about how he needs to listen to his son and trust him more, as well as respect his choices. That's how Odin manipulated Atreus at all, using the conflict between Kratos and his son. I'm not saying Atreus made smart choices or all the blame goes to Kratos and company. He did make stupid decisions. But again, Atreus felt he could not trust his father with the truth, in fear of his reaction. That, to me, definitely signifies there's issues between them that needed to be straightened out.
THANK YOU. I see so many people just letting the point of why Atreus blew up melt down to “kid dumb” and not understand the nuances behind it.
Thank you for pointing this out! Jack must've forgotten that Angrboda made Atreus keep Ironwood a secret. If Atreus told Kratos about the prophecy of him dying, then Kratos would want to know how he knew that information. Which means he would have to tell him about his trip to Ironwood which he can't.
The first time we see Thor in this game (in the first episode), I can IMMEDIATELY tell that he is depressed AF. And it makes sense because his 2 sons are dead. I like that detail. He looks so tired of living.
Edit: And there's also the favoritism thing Odin had with Baldur.
No one is giving Odin's voice actor enough credit. He's amazing with his delivery with the balance of sincerity and cunning that makes him terrifying
Wdym? Half the comments are giving the highest praise to his VA
52:20 Heimdall literally describing Lokis entire character and all of his traits to Atreus was just gold.
I know right, and it's like "The man is a dick but he has a fucking point"
@@Mwothyman I mean it also makes sense cuz in mythology hiemdal hates loki
I mean he doesn't really lie that much like pretty much at all
@@dallioncoker4127 dude atreus lied to his father many times, he even admitted to angrboda lying is something he's good at and angrboda was like "oh a master of deception"
@@rosaline7549 added to that his half-plan of going to odin involved acting as a spy and deceiving the Aesir gods into trusting him. For someone who "doesn't really lie" he's pretty confident in his ability to lie to master manipulator odin
Okay for everyone who doesn’t remember from the last game: Mimir explains there that during Thor and Jormungandr’s fight at Ragnarok, the world serpent kills Thor, but Thor hits the serpent SO HARD it flies back through time “even before it’s own birth”. It was a rather small detail in the original so it’s easy to forget.
Two world serpents fight in ragnarok according to prophecy. Young one gets sent into the past, grows old, and becomes the old world serpent that the prophecy says is killed by Thor moments before he collapses from the venom.
SPOILERS
In the game we see that the old Jormie doesn't even show up in Ragnarok. He just stays in Midgard, chillaxing in the frozen lake.
@@outbreakperfected9374you don’t throw the word “spoilers” at the end 😭
finally someone who actually remembers
Its interesting how in the mural Mimir said Thor was supposed to be killed by Jormungandr but in this event of Ragnarok Odin does it instead.
@@thegamingpickle4435 I believe the implication is that he “died” from the Leviathan axe. In the first game it’s explained that it’s Jormungamder’s VENOM that kills Thor, which the Leviathan axe is coated with when you throw it into the lake (that’s why the wound Thor gets from it in the first fight never fully heals). Odin got the killing blow, but it was the fight with Kratos that weakened him enough to allow that.
As someone from denmark who grew up with these stories and the culture around it, the way asgard is depicted is exactly how it was in our mythology.
It might not be as flashy as in the marvel movies but its not supossed to be, THIS is how asgard it
As somebody who found peace in my research, and my ADHD turned me towards the breathtaking stories of the Poetic Edda, I concur.
Me too🇩🇰🇩🇰
Odin’s manipulation skills are on a whole new level he somehow convinces you he’s not the bad guy despite everything you’ve seen him do
Top three gaslighters of all time:
1. Crimson 1(Project Wingman)
2. Oden(GoW: R)
3. Leyley(TCoAaL)
@@jager477Odin*
@@ech0zpAwz and your point?
No need to be aggressive lol, he's just correcting your typo.@@jager477
Fun fact: Richard Schiff who plays Odin, was convinced to take the role of Odin by his son who is a major God of War fan. Apparently when he got the call to be offered the role, his son was with him and his son told him: “Don’t ask, just say yes!”
That is very interesting to me. Thanks for sharing!
@@howtobeaprettylasagnafood5308 glad I can share! So in all honesty, we have Gus Schiff to thank for getting his dad to go for the role!
He’s killing it! Such a unique take on the character
@@Sm0k3turt he’s really a good actor! He also played Dr Glassman on The Good Doctor if memory serves me right
Reminds me of when Celine Dion's sons told her to do the opening song for Deadpool 2
Odin obsessed with gaining knowledge somehow makes so much more sense than just being a power hungry tyrant. He's giving me mad scientist vibes. Like, seeing a peak of the truth of the universe drove even a god mad. I love it!
Quite in line with his Mythology counterpart as well, Adaptational Villainy aside.
That's a good point. My Norse mythology knowledge is weak, but isn't there a story of Odin hanging himself to gain knowledge or learn the runes or something?
@@curiouschicana9098 Yeah Mimir said that he hung himself, ran his spear into his side and bled down into the well of destiny, wandering the realms for 7 days a dead man. It's not too far from the actual mythos I think
@@curiouschicana9098 Yeah, he hung himself on the World Tree for nine days and nights to learn the secrets of the runes. At which point the rope snapped and he was in for what I assume was a really long fall. He also gave up an eye to drink from Mimir’s well of waters to gain more general wisdom. It seems the most powerful magics in Norse Myth have a certain cost to them.
He’s a good leader but he will sacrifice anything in that pursuit of knowledge
You can tell by his actions towards Atreus that Heimdall is very used to being Odin's favorite, and he does not like competition
Not seeing any comments about how on point Sean's jokes about The Mask are, since the mask in The Mask did actually belong to Loki.
I feel as tho the wooden mask that loki/atreus gets is 100% a reference to the mask in The Mask
Atreus' entire arc is fascinating to me - because he has all these adults telling him a lesson he still has to learn by himself to make him believe it. It so encapsulates the ignorance of youth.
stupidity* would be better worded
thats sort of the frustrating thing about youth. the only way one learns is via the hard way. and I can't say I blame him for getting so frustrated. his father hid the fact he was a god, his mother hid the fact she was a giant. Hell Atreaus doesn't even know the full story of either of them.
Having said that I get Kratos trying to protect him. he doesn't want his son to make the same mistake he did. he started a war against Olympus that destroyed his entire home, and killed innocent people that were caught in the cross fire. The thing is I think he isn't focusing on the biggest difference. Kratos fought for revenge, Atreaus wants to fight for a better world for for the relms Odin has enslaved.
Honestly, it kinda bothers me. I think the God of War games portray the mistakes of young (and old) people really well, but using teens and children being dumb and easily manipulated is such an overdone plot point, especially cause I've found the majority of young people don't trust nearly as quickly as most media portrays them to.
Again, I still really like the way these games do it but generally it annoys the hell out of me, that type of stuff in media (and in how adults treat children) gave me a whole fuckin inferiority complex as a kid.
@@Baer99Z Atreus is being manipulated because he wants to prove who he is. In Kratos's words, the prophecy clouds his judgement. What Kratos wants is for Atreus to slow down and think things through; what Atreus wants is to go balls-to-the-wall full-tilt prophecy mode. Considering the fact that Atreus grew up in what is essentially a lie of a home, it's not outlandish to think that he would be struggling to get past the fact that he may be more than what his father wants him to be--this leads him to act rather rashly and irrationally in chase of a prophecy he knows very, very little about.
@@akaneriyun4774 You're 100% right on that, I'd also go to add that Atreus is probably following in his father's footsteps in terms of being rash and easily manipulated (when young) also the daddy issues seem to run in the family lmao.
My point wasn't really about this game in particular, just about our view of children/teens in general as being stupid and naive, of course a young person is going to act their age (that's how you grow up) but not enough people realize what they say about young people affects them, and no matter what your age is It's pretty easy to develop mental health issues if people keep saying you're stupid.
the moment i heard Atreus call Kratos an a-hole, my honed instincts as a former child just went "this kid is about to get his a*s beat all the way back into the Lake of Souls by the freaking God of War"
I truly feel like the ONLY reason Kratos hasn't already put hands on Atreus with the mouth he has is because he knows he would probably punch him through a mountain and kill him xD Kratos has visibly been restraining himself this entire time.
@@meldrickedwards1892 He was a Spartan. A smack to the mouth isn't abuse for them, It's discipline, and rather soft at that.
@@CryoHydra357 he does say as one of the little boat conversations "I did not want to raise you as a spartan" or something along those lines
My fight or flight instinct kicked in when I heard that
@@CryoHydra357that or the soul of hades is coming out
Thor: "Ain't that impressive. Real God stuff."
Atreus: "You are a God."
Thor: "You're damn right."
I feel like that's a reference to BB.
Kratos - asking Atreus to choose, and making one option "Or are you my son?" makes it sound like you'd only accept him as yours if he blindly follows you without seeking what his own life would be. No wonder he ran off.
Atreus: I can't believe she never came back to check up on you
Jack NOT IN GAME: She was busy
Atreus: that's not an excuse
That was perfect
When was that?
@@EEE-1409 23:00
Because there was a Jack in the game? Lol
I just wanna say my respoect for Mimir's VA is off the charts "Something bad DID happened! Look at ME, look at Freya and Tyr" man, the raw emotion on that voice was so felt. No arms and no body to express himself but the voice did it for me.
He is also the voice of Senator Armstrong! Incredibly talented VA!
@@AstroPC96 the horny head is the same as nanomachines college baller?!
@@AstroPC96 full metal?
@@AstroPC96 Nano machines, son!
Same. When I played the game and got to that part, I immediately looked up a video of the cutscene just to repeat that moment
That transition between Atreus putting down the knife and Kratos picking up his was so well executed
I love Heimdall, he's all like "yeah I'm evil but holy crap you suck"
The way Odin acts, and what Freya said about him, is very similar to an abuser. Giving gifts, empty promises, subtle remarks about how he is better, acting like a genuinely good person. But when anyone refuses an abuser, Odin, sh*t hits the fan. Look at what happened to Freya when she refused to teach Odin old Vaneir magic
Odin uses tactics like love-bombing a LOT it seems between Atreus and Freya. He makes himself look so good, so nice, so that once his true colours are shown he can manipulate the situation so that the one accusing him looks like a liar and manipulator.
Yep, maybe that’s why she made Baldur invincible, she was so scared that he would get killed by Odin, and yet, Baldur sided with him and got killed anyway.
@@lilchaos9212 definitely!! I'm glad they went with a manipulative, cunning villian, instead of a typical, power hungry tyrant. Makes it feel more realistic
@@migaish_ And it differentiates him from Zeus too.
His behavior absolutely matches that of an abuser, especially that of a narcissistic abuser. Given that I've dealt with a few of those, I recognized the lovebombing and the emotional manipulation right away- He makes me feel so very on guard, which means they they nailed down his character so well as a believable villian- Especially since he's very clearly doing the classic "Everyone who is against me is actually the bad guy, don't listen to their lies, you don't need them, you only need me." tactic. And he's solidifying this idea by making Loki/Atreus dependant and 'in debt' to him, with how he 'saved' the boy from Heimdall and how he gave him all these big gifts. And like you said, once Loki refuses to do something Odin wants, sh*t will hit the fan so very hard.
"But All-father, he intends to betray you."
"Yeah no shit Sherlock."
At least he has a good sense of humor.
I wonder if Jack knew while reading about Huginn and Muninn that the actual term for a flock of ravens is an “unkindness”. Wonderful touch by the developers 😊
Jack: talks about Odin manipulating atraus and how obvious it is.
Also Jack: oh cool, Aesir gear that is really good! Let me just put that on... Not that your being recruited or anything XD
I actually adore how they write Odin in this game. Thor's mighty menacing too, but portraying Odin to be as harmless as he is so far? Makes him so easy to trust. Which, in turn, makes him even scarier.
It also makes him seem like less of a threat in a sense because you feel you can trust him. But that is what makes him more dangerous because those you trust can hurt you in ways that others cannot.
His voice adds to it, he sounds like a lawyer with a bit of a sailor mouth, but I bet you that’s a front
Yep, the fact that everyone who came to trust him got fucked over badly for it later on tells you everything.
His voice sounds like the guy who played Toby in The West Wing. Perfect politician voice
@Emperor of Inception
Guts: I know how that feels. . .
Is no one gonna bring up how damn good Heimdall's line was? "I watch your mouth move, and I see cities burning"??? That is such an amazing phrase that really symbolises Loki and how dangerous Atreus could become when he gets older!
That could go for anyone though? Like I get Loki's whole thing is lies and tricker but atreus isn't into that so far
@@dallioncoker4127 so far he isn't but in the future when atreus gets much older he might become really dangerous, also he lied so many times to his father
@@rosaline7549 Eh, Atreus keeps a lot of secrets, most of them not even his to tell. That's not the same as lying. When Atreus says he didn't go to Asgard, he was telling the truth, he didn't. He just didn't say what he did _instead,_ because he promised to keep the secret for someone else (Angrboda). *Edit:* He _is_ a bit of an idiot, though.
@@snorpenbass4196 the iron wood was not the only thing he kept a secret lol pretty much his search for tyr was keeping it a secret too and he probably wouldn't have told kratos about it if Odin didn't expose him
@@rosaline7549 Thing is I can see him keeping looking for Tyr a secret for a number of reason: Kratos hates 'What ifs' so Atreus would need legitimate proof before going to his father about it, and second that Kratos refused to act at the start. Atreus was having visions and dreams, of course he'd act on them, whereas Kratos would've told him to ignore them.
1:45:07
You could hear the HATRED AND RESTRAINT in Kratos’ voice and that gave me chills
46:53 His palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy
There's vomit on his sweater already, Kratos's spaghetti
He's nervous, but on the surface he looks calm and ready to climb the walls
But he keeps on forgetting that he may fall down, the annoying crow goes so loud
He opens his mouth, but the words won't come out
He's slipping how, everybody's fallin' now
The clock's run out, time's up, over, blaow!
Odin's character is BRILLIANT at showcasing a master of manipulation. It's giving me actual chills. And I'm pleasantly surprised at how weirdly symphathetic Thor is, at least to me he seems to have an edge of humour in the dialogue between him and Atreus.
The whole "what could I possibly have to teach him" part was the biggest sympathetic part to me, like odin you don't have to be so straightforward with keeping Thor in the "big dumb brute" trope, he probably has loads he could teach atreus
yeah and i dont know whats gonna happen but i think ingrid also connect to odin so he can also spy and heard his conversation even when they were away, like how suddently angabroa pops up at sutr shrine, he heard that there are other giants now and ironwood does exist, Atreus is playing right in the fate hands, now kratos is meeting the fate guy thingy, i hope he did the same thing as how he did to sister of fate
I think Thor is a good mirror to Kratos in the same way that Baldur was. Baldur was a mirror of young Kratos's murder happy vengeful personality, and Thor is a vision of the type of man he would become had he continued to serve Zeus. Thor is a man who seems like he could have the capacity to do good but squanders it by serving a sociopathic asshole. Unlike him, Kratos wasn't obedient to his father and was able to grow because of it.
@@angryjotunn Thor is basically an abuse victim. he's vicious and cruel to others because it's the only sort of power he has in his own life. his father has no respect for him and as far as he's concerned that means he's only any good as a destroyer. other than Heimdall it's nice to see the other side of the story for these characters. after all Mimir was tortured by Odin for a hundred years and Freya is an ex wife for a reason. no way they are totally unbiased even if largely correct in their stories.
Just wait you will like him more by the end of it I beat the game today
As much of an infuriating teenager Atreus sometimes is, it's understandable that he'd be upset because he is forced to lie about his 2 day long disappearance on account of promising to keep ironwood a secret and the even bigger thing of learning his father is basically destined to die soon, he is desperate to change fate, but again he feels like he can't tell anyone. That's definitely on his mind, causing anxiety and anger
But he then literally fulfills the prophecy
@@yourfavnikoyep, and ironically that’s the point made with destiny in this game
Destiny only exists because people try to avert it while still being the same
Anxiety and stress cause irritability. He's going about things the wrong way, but I can't really blame him.
Kratos has shown that fate while strong , is not absolute it can be changed if even slightly, confiding in his father was ultimately the best move
@@krismelton2386 Kratos probably should've talked to Atreus a little more about his own encounters with fate.
I love Thruds slight panic after the both look down at the hole her sword left in the floor. Shes 100% been lectured by Sif about it before.
I can't imagine Jack's anxiety climbing that wall. Actually felt very proud for him doing it without too much issue.
Odin is giving off the vibe of that creepy uncle you’re not allowed to be alone with. They say he has a silver tongue but it’s nothing but tarnished silver.
Kinda like scar from the lion king but way more subtle
It's putur and his words are poisoned by the lead
"Has a silver tongue but it's nothing but tarnished silver" is such a good description.
I keep seeing him as a mafia don in a silly hat
Fun Fact: Loki just popping up in Asgard is what happened in Norse Mythology. Aa well as Heimdall hating him immediately.
They way odin talks in this episode it honestly feels like he's genuine,and has told his lies so long he beilives them too
If he tells you snow is white he lies
I love Odin’s voice lines, they’re so spectacularly written because sometimes charismatic villains give off super creepy vibes where you can tel they’re a villain, but the protagonists act all oblivious, but with Odin, he truly seems believable and trustworthy even when you KNOW all the awful things he’s done. Wonderful writing.
If you really listen to what Odin says, you realize that he’s everything that Mimir, Freya, Tyr, etc. said he’d be.
Like Mimir said if Odin says the snow is white don't believe him that it is white
@@gaming1zanagi-1999. yeah, plus the guy legit belittled Heimdal and Thor to Atreus in order to gain trust, the dude is slimy af
@@cinderfox5217 ye
i was just thinking of when freya said at first things were great with their marriage until she wouldn’t cast the spell on him, which really makes me think what’s going on with Atreus is a whole “nice” starting demeanor so he can get what he wants from him and if Atreus refuses, he’ll switch up completely.
“Tyr” 😬
It's amazing how charming they made Odin. Not what I was initially expecting, but so perfect for his mythology characterization. He reminds me of the mob boss that contributes to the community they run to retain their power, while doing unspeakable things to their enemies. Atreus, what have you gotten yourself into now....
Kind of reminds me of Odin from American Gods.
@@UntamedDragon02 watch your tone boy
I thought they explained it in the first game but I guess he forgot. So snake with the soul freshly put in it is the present not past. He's growing fast and in the (near) future will fight Thor. That fight will somehow send him back to the past which is why he's already around Midgard in the first game. At least I'm pretty sure that's how it was explained.
Thor: "Take one more step and you're not gunna like how this ends."
Heimdall: "And how do you intend to stop me, Thor, son of Odin, god of lightning, wielder of mjolnir, killer of giants?"
“Looks at the Arrow”
You know what he was insinuating
It’s so crazy to watch Atreus slowly turn in to Loki for how much mischief he causes and it’s almost as if it’s so subtle because you don’t even realize he’s doing it. Thor is a menace I love how they portrayed him in this incredibly intimidating.
Especially when he learned about the prophecy and immediately went "ah, I can trick odin and stab him in the back! perfect plan!"
Kratos keeps telling him prophecies are trash and he insists on being a little prophecy gremlin.
And the arrogante typically associated with loki given the whole oh prophecy oh important person oh that's me even though I have done nothing useful yet!
I know I realized that he's slowly morphing into a true God of mischief
@@4Cursesprobably because he has lived experience with a prophecy that very much came true and kratos never gave him any examples of ones that didn't
Idk why Atreus can't just say the partial truth of "I went to bed, and had a weird dream, and I woke up in some weird lands, I didn't know where I was but I did everything I could to get back home" he still gets to keep his secret while assuaging everyone's worry 🙄 him choosing this weird hill to die on is just so wild 😭😭
It’s frustrating, but makes sense cuz he’s a teenager. They’re logic just doesn’t make sense to adults. They make so many mistakes because their logic goes in the wrong direction.
@@TheGuardianssorrow valid, can't say I haven't been there 🥴
He was definitely acting on impulse like a teenager. Although in hindsight I can see why, Odin's ravens are everywhere, and he can't risk anybody figuring out that the way to Ironwood was via dreaming, or something like that. Especially if that's the only known way at that point in time. It would essentially break Angrboda's trust if anybody knew. Considering Thor is part giant (I think), imagine what catastrophe would happen had he heard that a dream could send you to a distant land, and then the only way back is to focus on home. If Thor could get there, then he would figure out it's Ironwood, and eventually, the last sanctuary for Giants would be gone.
I don't get it though even though I am barely out of my teenage years...I was a huge liar to my parents but always based it off the truth, otherwise I wouldn't be a good liar. Atreus is hilariously bad at lying I thought he was supposed to be the god of lies or something.
okay although that would be a decent way of explaining, do you think kratos would believe that? like he has already shown multiple times that his trust in atreus is broken, honestly i dont think anything he couldve answered would've been good enough
That transition with the knife was so beautifully executed that I had to pause and just bask in the perfection of it all
I'm glad Jack took the opportunity to address his teenage audience for a moment. It's confusing and stressful being a teenager, but if there's anything I learned now being an adult, it's that so many problems and issues could've been avoided if I'd just talked to my mom. Seriously, take a deep breath and analyze your emotions and what you want to discuss, pick a good time to talk to your parents, and then sit down and calmly talk to them without involving your own ego. Most parents really do just want to know what's on your mind and when you're a teenager that's when they're having the most difficult time connecting with you.
That's some deep talk and I agree‼️
Thor saying "what was I supposed to do? Throw you?" was totally an MCU reference to Thor throwing Loki in their "he's hurt!" meme attack.
Yeah, we're not doing "Get Help"!
"GET HELP!"
I thought that too!!!
I love the lines "Look into my eyes. You tell me." from Thor because a) They intimidate me personally, as Ryan Hurst's voice is downright terrifying as Thor, and b) Because I feel like they meant that when Heimdall looked into Thor's eyes with his foresight, he saw that Thor's intent was downright malicious and horrid, hence the "You are a sick man." line right after.
Yeah, getting a man like Heimdall to break character and literally call someone else a "Sick Man." Is down right horrifying. Also, you notice how he through the arrow away so fast with utter disgust? I think whatever Thor was planning it had something to do with that arrow...
@@rockyroads8802 Thor was probably going to shove that arrow up Heimdall's butt!
@@rockyroads8802 it was probably a literal case of I'll shove it up your ass. of course Heimdall being Heimdall, the idea of being hurt at all would be digusting.
@@rockyroads8802 probably throwing it so hard through the mouth it splits all your organs and out right through the other end, and then he feeds it to the dogs while reveling in it, fuck i'm a sick man....
@@rockyroads8802 probably a thrust to the eye
1:44:58 Omg he looks so intimidating in the darkness with his glowing eyes
What so awful about Odin is that he acts like ‘just some guy’, he’s not intimidating. he’s friendly towards his people, hell he even addresses them by their names like they’re friends. He seems like a meek guy just trying to do his job and that’s what makes him so dangerous. I even started to trust him even though I *know* he’s the bad guy! I feel like showing Atreus around and follow after Odin puttering around do menial tasks was a form of manipulation to make him seem harmless, and he did a damn good job of it.
The fact that Atreus climbed up the walls of Asgard and didn’t fall due the high altitude or all the climbing proves he definitely takes up after Kratos
It's those titan genes 😂
@@lilchaos9212 titan or Olympian genes?
"What's the tallest thing you've ever climbed" "One time, I climbed out of Hell. Another time, I climbed up into Heaven".
This one will be one hard competition to win for Trey-trey.
@@davidshepper5108 Titan ones...
Kratos climbed the dungeon that was on chronos back for like a couple days i think
There's something so terrifying about Odin sounding genuinely convincing about brokering peace despite having the prior knowledge of the fact he almost and definitely would have hunted the giants to extinction if he was given the chance. They really make it clear he's got a silver tongue and it makes it believable that he's gotten away with so much shit because of it.
Ive finished the game and I can confirm they do him so well, he has little loopholes and small manipulating messages, he send atreus to meet heimdall on purpose, because even if he insulted heimdall, his advisor telling him that atreus WILL betray them is something he believes, and only does so to earn atreus’s trust some mre, because if you insult your closes confidants, then ah yes perfect you agree! It’s done so well, and he constantly reminds atreus hes not his father to try and turn him more against kratos
Those who make a habit or not appearing to be an obvious threat can be those who are most dangerous of all. As one man in fiction once quoted "Evil wears many faces, none so deceptive as the face of friendship".
He Straight Mafia Boss but got power the back him off very scary indeed
Heimdall not being intimidated by Thor and even opting to challenge him was the most interesting moment.
Jack: When can I turn into the bear
New title unlocked boys,
DAD OF BEAR
Ok
I love that the massive gash on Thor from Kratos hasn’t even healed or scarred yet. Goes to show how potent the leviathan axe is
I think its because that was the ONE cut where Kratos actually channeled his power, so it's not healing.
The axe was imbued by jormugandr in the previous game, so it makes sense that the gash wouldn't regenerate.
In like actual Norse myth, jormungandr would die to Thor, but Thor would die to jormungandr’s poison. So the devs Fr payed attention😭
@@midnight6284Oh, so he wasn't trying after Thor literally killed him and jump-started his heart?
This game really captures the awkward discussion ambiance, with angry people and complicated feelings
Sometimes when Atreus and Kratos fight i feel really awkward like if i was at a friend's house while they're fighting
It felt all too real
amazing performances from the actors and incredible work from the motion capture team for getting all those expressions across!
Freaking heck, Sean. When "The Mask" popped out, I nearly shat myself.
1:30:25 I wonder why the giants are split up. It seems like some are hiding in the marbles, whereas others left the Nine Realms altogether.
I'm excited to see Atreus explore "new lands" to search for the giants, but I'm not sure why they didn't all just hide together lol.
If they're all together, theirs a chance they could all be wiped out together
Given how many times they've been attacked it might've been done periodically. Get attacked, some giants try to flee to new location, some don't, rinse and repeat until no giants left.
I honestly got chills when Kratos said “boy” for the first time in this game.
Oh he did more then "say" boy.
I think all of the nine realms heard him
Ahh that part gave me chills!
"I thought you learned things in between games. Apparently all you learned how to do is fill your head with sawdust!"
Brutality, Jack.
1:00:58 surprised that sean completely ignored that loud ass *OOGA OOGA BOOGA*
1:36:36 aha!
Lokie /Atreus starting his own manipulations.
Smart boy.
Whoever wrote for Odin, and his VA are INCREDIBLE. He seems so charming, and yet I am SO skeeved by his demeanor.
The best villains are the ones you absolutely hate because of how twisted they are. And yet it's a credit to the VA because got damn he sold it.
Gosh, the Odin moment after the fight is so good. I felt myself getting fooled by how chill he is. He gives off goofy grandpa vibes mixed with mob boss. Great voice acting and writing.
The way he talks is so off putting and very intentionally so
You can tell he’s a master manipulator
I mean... he WAS the White House Communications Director for nearly two full terms...
His delivery reminds me of Hades from the Disney Hercules movie. I honestly like Odin's smooth wise talking delivery
He maybe a bad guy, but shiit I didn't know he was chill like that 😩
Seeing Atreus change the bow he made with his mom for the aesir one definitely feels bittersweet :(
I love when Palpatine gave Anakin a Honedge for his birthday. Such a nice guy!