Everything You Need to Know About Charging The Mustang Mach-E Charging In 15 minutes
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- I produced an "Ultimate Charging Guide For The Mustang Mach-E" video for InsideEVs (see link below), but it was 40-minutes long and some of my followers asked if I could make a condensed version. So I decided to make this video and gave myself only 15 minutes to say as much about Ford Mustang Mach-E charging as I could. I ended up going 15 seconds too long, but I think most will forgive me. :)
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0:00 Intro
0:55 Ford Mobile Charger
2:08 Level 1 home charging
2:31 Level 2 home charging
4:54 Public charging
6:17 Ford Pass app
6:55 Plug&Charge
7:40 How to set up Plug&Charge in your Ford Pass app
8:30 250 free kWh of charging on Electrify America network
9:10 Smartphone apps that help you find the right public charging station
10:49 How to charge the Mach-E on a Tesla Destination charger or Tesla wall connector
11:57 Setting up precondition, charge scheduling, and the charging limit functions
14:50 The wall cradle for the mobile charger
15:10 Review of the speed of charging for the 3 different charging levels
16:10 Wrapup
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Great job! Concise and packed full of useful information. I have saved this video to watch later for a reference.
Tom is doing God’s work with these how-to videos.
Very good video and very informative for newbies. Thank you.
Tom, awesome content 👍 very educational and very useful for everyone new to EV in General but especially for Mach E owners .. keep the great content coming! Thank you!
Nice. Great video. I own a MME and you covered just about everything. The only thing to add is that I would highly recommend installing a charger at home and keeping the mobile charger in the car at all times. It adds to the comfort knowing I can charge anywhere, particularly when visiting families and friends for long or overnight stays or during winter when range is shorter. I also bought the Tesla mini-tap on your recommendation just in case I want to charge at any Tesla ‘destination’ (i.e., non-dc fast charge) station. Haven’t used it yet, but nice to have and it doesn’t take up much space (fits in glove compartment).
Thank you for the info I will do that..
Great job, Tom.
Thanks Tom! Appreciate you sharing such helpful info with this EV community :)
Very good, no point in getting too technical. Looks like a good EVSE that Ford supplies, portable, just needs a hotel or friend with a 14-50 outlet. If someone wants to save time just run the video at 2X 😎
You are awesome. Thanks for tips. I prefer this 15mins video. Expecting my Mach E delivery next week.
Thanks! Got my electric pony yesterday and this has answered alot of my questions!
Thank you for answering a lot of my charging questions. Hoping to get one very soon.
Very helpful, picking up my new Mach E very soon and am grateful I had this video to get me up to speed!
How has it been?
Good job! I learned a lot that I can use when my EV is finally delivered.
Very good detail, and it was simplified, too! Thanks
At 1:23 I saw the clock and smiled. Speedy Gonzales. Go go go
Very informative and succinct. Great Job!
Awesome video, very instructive for those who are new to this EV world!
Very helpful video..Thanks very much
Thank you for a great video, I just purchased a used 2021, and I really am enjoying it!
Thanks Tom great info
This was extremely helpful. Thank you.
Nice job. Very useful.
amazing. my wife just ordered her Mach e tonight. She would never watch the 40 minute video tho. thank you for this
That's what 2x speed is for 😄
Hey bud, how's your or your wife's experience been with the Mach E in 1 year?
Thanks !! Your video has helped me, so much !
Amazing and very enlightened.
Hey Tom keep coming the good videos. I have a question that I think it will be a great video for you, the new F-150 Lightning will be able to charge at home at 80 amps, so how big it has to be your breaker to handle it and also how many amps your panel needs to be able to handle. I know Ford will have companies to help you with this but since I’m getting solar panels to make energy for my next truck 😉 I want to know if I have to upgrade my circuit panel. Thanks Tom and keep the good work! 👋😎
When can we expect a full review on the Flo X5 evse? I absolutely love your videos and want to say thank you so much for sharing this knowledge. In my opinion there is not another channel when it comes to electric vehicle knowledge!
Thank you. I need to reach out to FLO on this. I will definitely do it soon -stay tuned.
Tip: Order a spare granny charger when you buy your car. Then mount one permanently on the garage wall while the other lives in your frunk. Also, if you must use an extension lead, make sure it is a high-capacity one designed for arc-welding rigs, not the feeble things sold in your friendly local supermarket.
Thanks what extension lead should I buy do you have any links links that would be good thank you very much
Thank you so much for your information I just picked up a GT Mach E So this is all new for me..
I learned things about the Mach-E that I haven't encountered anywhere else, like the charge curve that explains why sometimes I get 90kW from a DC fast charging station and sometimes I get 60kW from the same station. Thank you!
Great video! Thank you!
Thanks Tom!
Thank you Tom - I’m assuming Ford Lightning will be similar, but I’m looking forward to Lightning specific videos as we get closer to the release.
Great info. Thank you.
Great video
Thank you, Tom!
Very good info. Thank you.
Your right about the force required to swap out the plugs on Ford's EVSE. I took mine back because I thought it was defective and the service department showed me how much force is required to seat the cords into the EVSE.
Great job…
Thanks for all your videos; I have learned a lot from you as I prepare to go electric. In this video, you mentioned that the included Ford EVSE, in Level 2 mode, may be all that one may need. I have read elsewhere that NEMA 14-50 receptacles are not designed for frequent connect/disconnect cycles. If I were going to be carrying the EVSE with me frequently and also using it at home, would it be desirable to get a heavier-duty receptacle, if such a thing exists? If so, it might be an interesting topic for a future video.
Yes, there are commercial-grade NEMA 14-50 outlets. You can get them from electrical supply stores, not Home Depot. But people usually don't need to plug/unplug that often, actually.
Amazing! All the information I kept trying to get out of the dealer, but they just didn't know any of the answers...
The fans ask, Tom listens…. Great way to video review. I think it’s great to do combo - make 5-15 min type quick “info bites” and then extended cuts for people really researching.
Yeah, I think I'm going to do those short takes for my charger reviews also. They are long but thorough. :)
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney you should do a 10 min explaining how a stock Chevy Bolt EV charger can use a NEMA 6-15 or 6-20 and be fine for probably 80% of owners/potential buyers. I have 3 Bolts and use a NEMA 6-20, it cost well under $100 to wire up this way.
Another great video Tom, thanks. I thought one other thing to use the night charging time windows (Other than lower rates) is to let the battery cool down before charging. I have consistent rates, but I have my charge window from 10pm to Noon (Only a 20amp charger) so that the battery is always cold when charging starts. If I get home after 10PM, I won't plug in right away.
How long would you say typically the batteries will cool down once you get home from work? thanks
@@nagazinafireworks7594 I don't know of an exact time, probably many variables. I just try to give it some cool down time. Sometimes it's 20 minutes and sometimes I forget to go back out and plug it in until the next morning.
@@metal_horses568 I have a remind me app every time the same night to plug it in Because I've been there done that also
This video, and the mustang mach e, are a great example of how the world would look and feel if Tesla never existed.
7:02 mustang Mach e was the first to have plug-and-charge (rolls eyes, as Tesla has been doing this for a decade)
If Tesla never existed, the Mach E wouldn't either. The Mach E arrived 10 years earlier and is a better car today because of the lessons Ford (and every other manufacturer on the planet) learned from their own Tesla tear-downs. I have a 2019 S and love it, but I drove a Mach E for a week while I was getting some body work done on the S, and I came away very very impressed with the Ford. If the Mach E had a LFP battery in it, I'd buy one.
Great video - thanks so much. Read a lot about minimum and maximum optimal charging for the Mach-E to prolong battery life. I have an extended battery. What would you suggest for everyday use? Charge when it is down to 20% or 50% or what do you suggest for everyday use? Also only charge up to max 80%, 90% or what do you suggest? Thank you for your help!
Your videos are a great source of information. Just subscribed. I have a couple of questions.
1. Do you have a Twitter page?
2. I have a Mach-e Premium arriving in a couple months. In Dec of 2020 Musk said that Tesla would be opening up its superchargers to other manufacturers but that it was "low-key". Which tesla tap adapter is out there that would allow a DC supercharger? All the ones I've seen say not compatible with superchargers.
This info is great... need lots of research before buying. Wish Ford work on charge stations before the vehicle.
Hello Tom. Thanks for the condensed video!
Question - is it harmful to strictly fast charge (between 35% - 80% for example)? Battery degradation. IIf someone doesn't have the option to charge at home, and don't want to wait long periods st public chargers.
Hi Tom! Great videos. Quick question if you have the time. In your longer Mach-E charging video, you mention that since Ford is being conservative with how much battery they allow you to access, that charging to 100% percent routinely was not a problem. In this video you mention that limiting charging to 90% might be a good idea for extending the life of the battery (or words to that effect). So which do you think is best for the Mach-E?
It's always good to err on the side of caution. Ford recently opened up more of the usable battery pack (within the last month), so now the buffer is smaller than it previously was. However, if you think you need 100% of the battery, I wouldn't hesitate to charge to 100%. Now that the buffer is smaller, charging to like 95% is comparable to what it used to be charging to 100%
Thank you so much for this video! It was insanely informative! I did have a quick question…You talked about the Departure and Comfort settings. If you have your car start to warm up for example, will it remain locked? I’m a student in Michigan, so if my car was parked, could I have it start before I leave school, but not get stolen? Thanks again!
Yes, it remains locked
Great video!!! Looking at leasing a 2023 extended battery . Do you think it safe from the recalls with the battery failures of the High Voltage Battery Junction Box (HVBJB).
I just bought a mme yesterday.... Less than 24 hours ago and it's my first ev... Definitely a learning curve. At least, unlike when ev's were brand new, I have all these resources on the internet to learn the important stuff without having to risk mistakes myself... Someone else already did for me.
Kind of annoyed that dealer sold me mine with about 36% charge and I only have a 120v outlet at home to use. Had to work today so only about 9-10 hours charge time. Was at 51% when I left and used 10% of that to get to work 😢. I'm shocked at the price of some of the public chargers around where I live. Avg about 45 cents per kwh... Some charge by the hour (and are slow). I was hoping to save a significant amount over my former ice Ford 150 but at those rates it'd be about the same! Definitely going to aim for charging at home as much as I can where it's 7 cents per kwh until I use a certain amount (think 1500kwh 🤔) then it's 2 cents more. I see billboards up in Dallas and Houston advertising free power at night and I'm like damn... Why can't we have that in San Antonio?
OMG thank you for that 7 step tip....I did everything EXCEPT the last step, whodathunkit?? I was so curious why this wasn't working.
I'll send you my address so you can send the check. :)
What is recommended in a situation where one has an available "dryer" outlet already installed but the breaker in the panel is one of those dual breakers and both are labeled 30? DOes this mean the available dryer outlet can handle up to 60amps? or will I be tripping breakers when trying to charge my MAch E's 32 amp draw? I appreciate any info, I just order my Mach E today and am trying to be ready for it.
Hi, have a ME on order. How long should I warm up the battery before driving? Summer vs. Winter? I live in the poc9nos and in the winter jt can easily go down to -10 at night.
Would it be dangerous to use an extension cord or surge proctor in combination with the mobile charger?
240volt 20Amp plug? (used for chevy volt) Will the Mach e trip the breaker? Can I turn down the charge rate, like a tesla can?
Did they update the charge curve on the Mach E? Like I would want 150kw till at least 50%.
Thanks Tom! Great overview. One question. In MN Greenlots chargers are incredibly expensive. Do you know why they charge so much?
I don't have any insight into why the networks charge what they do, only to say that currently, the utilization rate of public EV chargers is so low, that it's impossible to even break even with the cost of the installation and electricity to power the unit. I suppose they are just trying to limit the monthly losses they incur.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney thanks Tom. I appreciate all the great work you do on EV reviews and chargers. It’s super helpful.
If you turn on the vehicle while charging do you damage the battery?
In the winter in NY my extended battery is only getting about 168 miles per charge and charging at a rate of 11 miles per hour is this normal?
Great info, however I am not sure where you are getting your numbers for cost to install the needed outlet. I am a professional electrician that has installed dozens of these for several models. The materials alone, new breaker, #6 wire, conduit, etc run a min of $150 and that's only a very short 10' span from panel to charger location. Not to mention most states require the work to be permitted.
A more realistic range so people don't get surprised when they get quotes is anywhere from $600-2k and even that's assuming you have adequate space and amperage available in your panel.
Personally I recommend people getting that quote before they even purchase the car.
I plug in the Ford portable charger to my 2023 Mach E and the screen says charging is on pause? Help with what's next please
What is the Tesla converter you recommend?
I am thinking of getting a MME. i thought the Tesla superchargers are only available to Teslas? Is that correct?
where do I buy that kit? I rented one of those vehicles, but no way to charge it? Video starts off stating to show EVERYTHING needed and then one of those adapter kits appearing like magic!
Great video. Can you recommend what type of Nema 14-50 outlet to use? Is a commercial outlet fine or is an industrial one needed. What type of 14-50 outlets do you use in the shop?
If you're not going to be plugging in and unplugging the EVSE all of the time, you can go with a regular one from any hardware store. But if you think you'll be frequently unplugging and plugging back in, I would recommend going to a dedicated electrical supply house and getting one there. Ask if they have one that is commercial grade and you'll be good to go.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Thank you for the reply.
A Porche Taycan driver pointed out that he was getting a 120-240V inverter to charge his car and that his electrician told him that this would work. I would like to know it it could as even and upgrade to 10 miles per hour from my present 2.6-3.3 would be very helpful.
I didn't see anything about if it hurts to charge if you only do 20 miles a day and plug in, Does that hurt the battery cycles? And finally charging to 100%, yes or no?
Is it advisable to use the 120 vs the 240 for battery health or are they equivalent as far as battery health?
I have heard conflicting opinions on this. Nice video by the way.
Not really, it won't make a difference in longevity.
Tom, have owned my awd select mache for about a month, 2500 miles. When it was delivered it a was charged to 100% with a range of 175 due to the many test drives. After each charge thereafter it grew as expected. My last two charges were 260+ the last being 265. After unplugging from my ChargePoint home flex the max was 206 not the 265 it showed when at 100% charge complete. Will be curious to see my Monday results after a full charge. Any ideas?
Y does it go up
I used to be so incredibly stressed out about my grandma charging her Mach E, that changed a little bit when I enabled plug and charge. As long as we're going somewhere where there are EA chargers, all I have to stress out about now is making sure she gets to those stations and at some point I'm going to stress out about her knowing what place to go
Can you research to see if the F150’s 80A V2G will work with the MachE? Any chance Ford has the bidirectional parts hidden in the MachE? I have a deposit on a F150 XR in anticipation of using the truck as home backup power in Florida
I'm getting the chance to drive in an F150 Lightning in 2 weeks - can't wait.
Don't forget EV Gateway. Thay have a lot of great 200KW chargers in OK, TX and in a lot of other states. They have great 24 hour service.
I got the kia ev6 it did not come with a charger
@7:04 How was the Mach-E the first EV to have plug and charge. Tesla's have had that for years.
Hi, i am in the UK and using the 230 volt ford charger that comes with the car only gives 7-8 miles per hour. Is the 13amp one you have different ?
I manage well as overnight I can easily get100 miles of range. I am however having a 3 phase 22kw charger fitted shortley. Thank you for your videos
Hi Robert. I should have specified that the charging times were specific to North America. Our standard household electric outlets here deliver half the power that your's in the UK do, therefore the car gets about half the power on level 1 charging.
Can the Ford mobile charger level one be used in the cold and snow? I’d like to plug in where I work in the winter to help on the bitter cold days. Worried as to how the cold and snow will affect it. Thank you!
Yes, it's fine in the cold and snow.
How much please how much does it cost... thinking it may not be worth it
How do I get more out of my battery life
I lease a Mach E.
After hearing about the lack of roadside service Ford currently has in the US in case of a breakdown, I've decided to purchase a Polestar 2 by Volvo.
hello! I followed the link to the J1772 adapter you left in the description. it says: "This adapter is NOT COMPATIBLE and is not to be used with the Tesla Super Charger Network." it can't be used???
Yes, you cannot use it with a Tesla Supercharger. You can only use it on Tesla destination chargers and Tesla wall connectors.
Will the mach-E included charger work on a 240 40 amp plug in my garage?
Yes, perfectly, as long as the plug is the same. (NEMA 14-50) if not, you need to buy an adapter.
Would the Lectron - Tesla to 1772 with a 48amp max rating be safe to use since it is not the minimum 50amp you advised?
Yes, that would be fine
Can you do the same video for a VW ID.4?
I need to get another ID.4 on loan to do it. Have you seen the long version I already produced? th-cam.com/video/KfSeT72izxI/w-d-xo.html
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Yes it was very informative.
Would you know if it is possible to charge a mach e with a generator? I did not have any luck with my 7500 generac unit. It would start to charge and then just stop. Ford told me it is possible. I am guessing I need a more powerful generator. I was not running any thing in the house at the time either. I also tried hooking it up directly to the generator. I had to get an adapter for the ford charging unit so it would plug into the side of the generator. That didn't seem to work either.Any help would be great.
Yes it is possible, it all depends on whether the generator you're using is producing what is considered "clean electricity" That had nothing to do with it actually being clean, it really means the power delivered is consistent and not fluctuating much. A good quality generator should work, I've charged many EVs with generators in the past.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney yeah im wondering if the adapter i bought to use directly to generator was was not good. It was only 15 bucks.
If I only have a 30 amp circuit how do I set the charge rate at 24 amps ? I really like the more conventional controls on the mach e
I don't think the Mach-e allows you to do that. You may need to get a charging station that is limited to 24-amps. Have you resolved this yet?
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney thanks for reply. I have not purchased a vehicle yet but I like to have a everything planned out ahead of time
For non Tesla EVs where there is a buffer already built into the battery (eg 98kWh with 88kWh of usable energy), wouldn’t it be safe to charge it to 100% Soc all the time? I thought it was only for Tesla where we need to manually reduce the max soc to 80% since Tesla allow users to utilize all 100% of the batter pack.
It is fine to charge the Mach-E to 100% because there is a decent buffer as you note, however, if you don't need the extra range for daily driving, then it's still a good idea to charge to 85% or 90% daily - it can't hurt. No, it's not only Tesla that uses a high percentage of the battery and recommends not charging to 100% on daily charging. For instance, Volkswagen, Volvo, and Polestar also do.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney thanks for the info. Your channel is very informative and I can’t wait to get our first ev soon.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney I asked Ford (not the dealership) for the recommended max SOC when charging daily/frequent basis and where is this documented, they replied with 90% and no reference to any documentation.
If someone has a link or knows the source to where this "official" Ford recommendation is documented, please post it. Thanks.
@@Wasabi9111 I see it in my manual, which recommends 90% ac charging and 80 for dc
Did 2021 mach-e owners ever get the promised update for better range?
My mach-e sales rep said Ford doesnt recommend you always plug in your Mach-e and only charge it as needed, is this true? The best part about having an EV is you start with a full tank o every day.
That's silly. Plug in every day - no problem.
Yes, it will degrade the battery faster as every battery has a life of so many charging cycles, so the less times you plug in, the longer they will last.
You should update this video! Nice though
The Tesla-to-J1772 adapters, would they work with a Tesla distribution charger?
I believe they only work at Tesla destination chargers, not at Tesla Superchargers.
Some early Kia Soul-Es had ChadEmo connections.
Yes, but they haven't sod those in a long time, and there are actually very few of them - especially outside of California.
I am seeing where this is going. Last time we used dongles was on iphone and then a mac. Only cars were left to introduce dongles.
Auto industries really need to come to a generic charging standards like USB unless they don't want to see thousands of angry drivers with lots of weird dongles in the back. Imagine the annoyance its going to cause.
The Mach E charges in 15 minutes?
Using Tesla adaptor.....The adaptors only work for Tesla Destination chargers.....NOT on Tesla Superchargers. So don't go to a Tesla Supercharger and expect to charge. Tesla Destination chargers level 2 and are at places like restaurants, downtown spots, bars, hotels. Again these are called Tesla Destination Chargers. PS (Tesla is testing sharing some Superchargers in Europe with non-Tesla brands but that is not available in the US.
Is anyone impressed with this charging curve? It remains at 150kW for only 5% SoC, then at 110 kW for 30%, and 75 kW for the next 40%. Clearly, it makes very little sense to wait for charging above 80% unless absolutely necessary. I believe the model Y charges at a high power level and for a longer time. Maybe Tom can show us the model Y charging curve on same graph as Mach e?
Good suggestion. I plan to do a supercharging recording of a 2021 Model Y soon.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Terrific ! I hope to produce the charging curve for MS-LR at a 250kW SC soon if July delivery estimate is accurate.
This is interesting...so as I see it, the base 115kW charging model, should charge just as fast as the 150kW model because after the 2 minutes at 150kW the charge curve drops down to under 100kW?
I had to increase the wire guage in my dryer outlet to handle the charging current. It cost me $200 just for the wire and materials! Your estimate of a few hundred dollars is way off!
Look around for ADDITIONAL charging stations. My wife's employer has stations at their sites which aren't on the charging company's 'charge here' app map.
Your employer might have a program for cheaper/free charging for staff.
"Drawring" 🤣