Jay Waz thats because T wolves are the crappiest franchise to ever be in the NBA. From the start till now, KG was just a light in big darkness and completely wasted his talent on that shitty team. Hope KAT won’t do the same mistake.
@@matthewweiss8579 Ur stupid if you think he doesn't deserve it considering what other players are getting. You can say that about any other player that decided to stay with the team that drafted them.
@Sam Lim The fuck that even means? So i have to be the best basketball player in the world to criticize an NBA player? Or i have to be the most important politician in the world to criticize the work of one? Lame ass mentality. If you don't understand what's bad in posting the same comment on every single video just to get likes i feel pity for you.
Sam Lim I don’t even posted the same comment in the video previous to this one. This dude trash talking is just hating. I don’t ask for likes. People just “like” it.
The fact Mitch Richmond was left off this lift is exactly WHY he should be on the list. His talents are largely forgotten or missed completely because he spent his entire prime on the Sacramento Kings.
A legend though?? Nah he was good jus like T&C of TMC. Those guys r good to pretty good but not legends if any of em were close to legendary it was Mullins
Some people forget just how little help Wade had with guys like Michael Beasley, injured Jermaine O’Neal, Jamario Moon, Luther Head and whoever else was on that roster. 2009 as a Heat is still very special to me because of how phenomenal Wade was
Yea Andy hoop on how good was Ray Allen and Dom 2k on Ray Allen had pointed out no one believed in him and refused to pay him the max contract also how management traded him multiple times.
Well, there's a reason they put on incredible stats. And the reason is in the title of the video... they were on bad teams!! They have to do almost everything to win games. That's why Jordan had his best statistical seasons while the team were not good. The explanation of all of this numbers is 50% talent/ 50% context
Absolute bullshit, what you're saying. MJ's 4/5 best seasons on what's considered "the best team in NBA history". Same with a multitude of other legends.
being the lone star on a trash team means the defense only has one threat to worry about so it cancels out
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@Sam Lim All of these players (in this video) got their highest ppg in not great teams. Jordan's 38ppg season and DPOY were when the Bulls were a meh team. And ppg is only one thing
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@@YourFavouriteDraugr 80's Jordan numbers were better, Man. What are you talking about?. We're are talking about individual numbers. Don't try to be a smartass, when you lack the "smart" part...
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@@muneebsharif543 And that's why they're legends. And you and me not, and hundreds of players who are/were the first scoring options neither.
Don't forget the best player underrated in shooting three pointers is Dale Ellis of a gangsta who has a reputation for being a quiet assassin and Chuck Rifle man Person
At least Kobe's got 5 FUCKING RINGS to his name, not to mention the plethora of awards, achievements and record breaking feats all throughout his career. All in all, we can agree that Kobe's one of the most successful athlete in the history of not only the NBA but sports itself and that's something that can never be taken from him
How chose to stay on the Knicks, he had an option to go to the Bulls but he stayed with the Knicks because the Knicks offered him more money. He wanted the money.
Knicks really screw him big time. Its not just the money he really want to play in new york just did not work out on him. He should have joined the bulls or Portland like dame said his been trying to make him to play for them. If only Melo did not sign the 3 years extensiom before asking a trade
Shareef Abdur-Rahim should be on this list. Being the top 3 pick of the legendary 1996 draft class, he puts up good numbers on an awful Vancouver Grizzlies team and Atlanta Hawks Squad. He was a nimble and talented Power Forward but only played 1 playoff series in 11 seasons. I like him though.
honorable mentions pete maravich in 1977 bob mcadoo in 1975 chuck person in 1991 vlade divac in 1995 wilt chamberlain in 1963 kareem in 1977 westbrook in 2017 griffin in 2013
I feel for TMac and KG... Two of the greatest in my era, they both went out there & left everything out on the court every single night and still they couldn't get over the hump, especially KG being in the Western Conference. Kobe and Paul, hell even DWade got their due & won titles before Father Time came and collected, making their runs as the prime options on their teams more memorable and special. Almost mythical to me. A.I. awwwww mane I wish and Barkley was in better situations in Philadelphia, both of them could of won a championship there, needed the right pieces. Great video, Andy!!!!!! #RIPKobe #MambaWillAlwaysLiveOn
@@raymondsmith2040 As a Kobe fan, back then if he ever left the Lakers, I was gonna be riding along whatever team he picked no cap cause I was tired of seeing greatness get blown by every year in those battles with Phoenix, especially the year we had the 3-1 series lead in '06 or '07.
While many of these guys were on bad teams, it could be argued that some of them didn't do enough to elevate their teams. The prime example here is Tracy McGrady. People like to ignore how often McGrady choked in the playoffs.
The 76ers Finals run and Cleveland’s 07 Finals run really are remarkable. As this video proves, a great player on a bad team usually equals a bad team. Or at the most a mediocre team.
chris bosh had an overall average career because he literally never faced legends like oscar robertson kareem abdul-jabbar wilt chamberlain and bill russell
Grant Hill? Dominique Wilkins? Mitch Richmond? Reggie Miller? Dikembe Mutumbo? Vince Carter? Ray Allen? Steve Smith? Mark Aguirre? David Robinson? Ron Harper? Glen Rice?
2018 Lebron should be there, Thats the most dominant performance i saw him play, he literally Carried those bums to the FINALS. And next year after he left, Cavs back again on bring the worst team in the NBA with literally same line up as 2018 🤦♂️
@@maartenvz It was wasted because it is the 3rd least talented team to make the NBA Finals in the last 20 years. Not even good enough to make the playoffs without him. The only other teams worse to make the finals where the 2007 Cavs, and the 2001 Sixers, that AI carried all the way to the finals.
Dirk after Nash left. He literally carried the Mavericks to the playoffs each year. He carried the mavs to 2011 championships. As a mavs fan he deserves more
I always tell people AI either had no help or he got help too late. Those seasons you talked about had a YOUNG Iguodala, Korver, and an old Webber. If those guys were in their prime, no question they would've made it far.
Another awesome Andy hoops video when you hear those amazing trumpets in the background , but yeah lots of all time greats late in their careers on bad teams , certainly those who didn’t had a lot of good help
charles barkley was an elite superstar and the better a player then probably the less help they need and those 76ers teams he was on never once got past round 2 while he only led the suns past round 2 in 1993 with them going 13-11 in the playoffs
Lebron in Cavs, Kudos to the King but then He Managed So well the Cavs in His Young Career. So no one talking that Lebron Carry a team by Himself at the Young Age.
Sorry andy, but t-mac waived all his rights to be on any "great player on bad team" list when he ditched vince carter and the potential dynasty they could've built.
You should've included the young LeBron. He single handedly carried a terrible Cavs team to the Finals, and had great playoff runs during mid to late 2000's.
You know, people would've been saying that Dirk wasted HIS best seasons on the Mavs had they not won the title a little while later. So all of this is very skeptical.
"wasted-" i whole heartedly disagree. the 80's and 90's were different eras. it was a different time then. those men WANTED all the pressure. they WANTED to be "THE MAN" and it translated into great performances and very few regrets. d-wade was actually happy in miami- and he knew any team with pat riley was gonna win eventually. KG had starbury- and wally world too. but steph wouldnt stay put. as for kobe buckets- any man with 5 rings- didnt "waste" much...
Andy Hoops is the man. I have watched nearly all your vids and I love them. You even inspired me to start my own TH-cam channel because of how great yours is. I would love support for some support and feedback on how I am doing. ANDY HOOPS IS THE MAN.
I do think these stars having their best individual seasons when their team was bad is because they simply didn't have any options on offense, e.g. mid-2000s Kobe wasn't any better as a player than 2008-10 Kobe (he was arguably worse, a big part of Kobe's greatness being his willingness to constantly improve his game season after season) but had better stats.
I saw Allen Iverson play at the Palace of Auburn Hills in MI while he was wearing a Pistons jersey (must have been 2009-2010) he dropped 35 points and made it look easy even at that point in his career!! I still remember watching Iverson play for John Thompson at Georgetown while I was in middle school, and the next year when he was a rookie I snatched up the Iverson and Kobe Topps Finest refractor rookie cards. I had my basketball card collection swiped away quite a few years ago, and damn did I have a ton of gems!! The memories remain however, nobody can take those away!!
Actually I think some better what ifs were if KG would have teamed up with other nba legends like Kobe and Shaq on the Lakers,Tim Duncan and Tony Parker on the Spurs, Dirk Nowinski on the Mavericks, Steve Nash on the Suns and many more
man his team was 43-9. Compare it to LeBron's 66-16 and it's pretty obvious the right man was given the MVP. No matter how well you play, you won't get the MVP with such record, unless you average a tripple double I guess and even then. Westbrook's team had at least a little bit better record.
Bob McAdoo, That Guy was a Very Bad Man! Bob played for Buffalo (LA Clippers), New York, Boston, Detroit, New Jersey, LA Lakers, and the 76ers! He was the Stetch Center in the NBA even if he barely shoot the 3! "He was 3x Scoring Champ, 5x All Star, MVP, All-Star MVP, 3x He Averaged Over 30+ Points in a Season, 3x All-NBA Winnings (One of the First to Win that Award), 55% Career True Shooting, & 2x Champs!" Was Certainly the First Stretch Center to Plays, even if he Barely Shoot the 3s Points-Ball! (1972-1986)
10:12 Yep, that was 3 of the years he LED THE LEAGUE in Bricks, and only had a shooting percentage more than 1-2% above league AVERAGE in one of them. ONE great year, 2 good ones - and that was his peak.
Dave Bing???? 244-329 in his first 7 seasons, with ONE playoff appearance. He averaged 23.7 points, 4.4 boards and 6.1 assists, made 4 All-Star game appearances, and was on some very bad teams. Mitch Richmond went through a 221-353 stretch with Sacramento, with one playoff appearance. Averaged 23.3 points, 4.1 assists and 1.3 steals while making 5 All-NBA teams. Probably should have been All-Defense a few times but his teams were really bad. I'd put both of them on this list. HOF guys.
As a Wolves fan, I feel so bad for KG. He basically saved our franchise and we don’t even honor him 😔
They didn't retire KG's jersey in MIN?
Jay Waz thats because T wolves are the crappiest franchise to ever be in the NBA. From the start till now, KG was just a light in big darkness and completely wasted his talent on that shitty team. Hope KAT won’t do the same mistake.
aznpikachu215 Not yet 😭 even though he deserves one
It’s cause him and owner glen Taylor are beefing. He would’ve been honored as soon as he retired
Jan Bureš it’s cause of a shitty owner. Don’t blame the team.
Bradley Beal is also wasting his prime in Washington.
bvillacorta13 he is about his money, he knew the wizards are a bad organization and have no future. He stayed for the money.
@@matthewweiss8579 Do u say that about other great players who stayed with the team that drafted them despite not having help?
Bernard Brunu 270 million was his goal or he would have went somewhere else you fuck face
bvillacorta13 he ain’t a legend or hof
@@matthewweiss8579 Ur stupid if you think he doesn't deserve it considering what other players are getting. You can say that about any other player that decided to stay with the team that drafted them.
When you hear those trumpets, you know that Andy has released another masterpiece
I swear on god i read this exact same comment by you down every single Andy's video. C'mon, you can think of another comment to get likes.
@Sam Lim "hater" lmao, i just think is pathetic to post the same exact comment down every single video just to get likes.
@Sam Lim The fuck that even means? So i have to be the best basketball player in the world to criticize an NBA player? Or i have to be the most important politician in the world to criticize the work of one? Lame ass mentality. If you don't understand what's bad in posting the same comment on every single video just to get likes i feel pity for you.
Fuck you
Sam Lim I don’t even posted the same comment in the video previous to this one. This dude trash talking is just hating. I don’t ask for likes. People just “like” it.
Oh wow, I'm early. Well I guess I should tell you that you are missing my myplayer in 2k17. Who played for the kings.
😂😂
How the hell does that comment got that many likes ??? Bro it's not even funny
@@RubyMaster_mlbb it's not insanely funny, but it's pretty relatable
@@RubyMaster_mlbb ur mom not funny
The fact Mitch Richmond was left off this lift is exactly WHY he should be on the list. His talents are largely forgotten or missed completely because he spent his entire prime on the Sacramento Kings.
Mitch not considered a legend but he definitely wasted his prime in Sac,Wash
08-09 wade is just insane, so underrated
Tik_Tik facts
Fr man dude a beast
@@bean32942006 NBA finals he was even more of a beast
Honorable Mention: Mitch Richmond in Sacramento
Mich had the TMC crew. Tim Mich & Chris
@@jknumber5138 yeah in Golden State .. not Sacramento :)
He was on the best NBA Live(97)
A legend though?? Nah he was good jus like T&C of TMC. Those guys r good to pretty good but not legends if any of em were close to legendary it was Mullins
Every star in Sacramento is wasting his best years there
Some people forget just how little help Wade had with guys like Michael Beasley, injured Jermaine O’Neal, Jamario Moon, Luther Head and whoever else was on that roster. 2009 as a Heat is still very special to me because of how phenomenal Wade was
Wade should've won the Regular Season MVP that year :(
Patri. He deserved it because he highly improved their win total but it’s hard to win it when your team only won 43 games
@Bayek Of Siwa damn you still pissed chilled the f out
what about Ray Allen and his time in Seatlle?
Yea Andy hoop on how good was Ray Allen and Dom 2k on Ray Allen had pointed out no one believed in him and refused to pay him the max contract also how management traded him multiple times.
@@macewbee fuck you
Voitekas they weren’t terrible I guess
@@mike04574 They were in the playoffs twice from 2000 to 2007. They were 10th or lower until Allen traded to Boston
Only real NBA fans remember him and Ray Lewis the original Splash Brothers
Why do 00's-06's video quality worst than of 80s and 90s videos 🤔
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
SSJHarambe Why is your grammar worse than a toddler’s? 🤔
@@dylanyang2195 😅😅😂😂😂 LOL
Early digital video vs the last era of film. Remember the first digital cameras vs film?
I was just watching highlight videos of Jerry & Mcdyss from that era. I was thinking the same thing
Zion is charles barkley 2.0
No
Facts
Minus the rebounds
Larry Johnson*
With the athleticism of Shawn Kemp
Well, there's a reason they put on incredible stats. And the reason is in the title of the video... they were on bad teams!! They have to do almost everything to win games.
That's why Jordan had his best statistical seasons while the team were not good.
The explanation of all of this numbers is 50% talent/ 50% context
Absolute bullshit, what you're saying. MJ's 4/5 best seasons on what's considered "the best team in NBA history". Same with a multitude of other legends.
being the lone star on a trash team means the defense only has one threat to worry about so it cancels out
@Sam Lim All of these players (in this video) got their highest ppg in not great teams. Jordan's 38ppg season and DPOY were when the Bulls were a meh team. And ppg is only one thing
@@YourFavouriteDraugr 80's Jordan numbers were better, Man. What are you talking about?. We're are talking about individual numbers. Don't try to be a smartass, when you lack the "smart" part...
@@muneebsharif543 And that's why they're legends. And you and me not, and hundreds of players who are/were the first scoring options neither.
Jordan between 85'-87' should have been mentioned. He was dropping 40, but the Bulls were only winning 40 games lol
He was a rookie, this list is about prime stage
@@1vaultdweller its not about prime stage 💀💀
No one talking about how Allen, pierce and garnett all had trips to conf. Finals but had mediocre teams.
Andy, what about a top with the players with a larger prime (Kareem, Kobe, Lebron, Nash, Stockton, Malone, Jordan, Pippen, Hakeem, etc)
Don't forget the best player underrated in shooting three pointers is Dale Ellis of a gangsta who has a reputation for being a quiet assassin and Chuck Rifle man Person
He’d actually have to research etc
It still feels weird seeing Kobe’s name here knowing he is not with us anymore. Almost got over it and I cried again seeing you mention him
At least Kobe's got 5 FUCKING RINGS to his name, not to mention the plethora of awards, achievements and record breaking feats all throughout his career. All in all, we can agree that Kobe's one of the most successful athlete in the history of not only the NBA but sports itself and that's something that can never be taken from him
Carmelo Anthony I think would make my list. I’m a Melo fan, maybe I’m biased
His prime was in Denver, and that roster was pretty good tbh
He'd been better than Kobe on this video
Or even my boy wade if get to play with Shaquille o'neal you can't say you had a bad team
melo just ruins any team he lands at so nah
Finn Patchesa I mean there was the lakers spurs and dallas so what chance did he have
Ray Allen lost some prime years in Milwaukee but mainly Seattle
Milwaukee was very good when he was there with glen Robinson and Sam casell. They nearly made the finals the year they lost to philly and AI.
@@TheIcemanthomas true they were competitive
Milwaukee team was nice. It was Sonics where he wasted his time
Agree Seattle Ray Allen should prolly be up there
Same could be said about devin booker,Bradley Beal even Kemba when he was with Charlotte
Y’all agree with me that Tracy McGrady was the best player in the league from 2002-2004?
Black people Eater it’s definitely debatable. I love those guys too
vince carter?
Vince carter on every team he played for unfortunately
Vince Carter had lots of help throughout his career, he just underperformed a lot in the playoffs.
I’m the only thinking that Dominique Wilkins should be on here ?
Dammmn on this issue of a what iif question
Those Hawks teams weren't bad though, they just had the teams that were better: Celtics, Pistons, and Bulls.
Hawks actually had a good team then
That’s interesting.if Tim and Kevin switched ... would have Kevin switched his demeanor and attitude to fit in the spurs system
That would be why he wouldn't fit with pop, you know playing for the spurs it is TEAM-First, which is kawhi bolted.
Never been this early keep doing the good work andyyy
Melo wasted his BEST seasons on the bad Knicks teams SMH
How chose to stay on the Knicks, he had an option to go to the Bulls but he stayed with the Knicks because the Knicks offered him more money. He wanted the money.
Melo sucked in his last seasons in NY, he just got the ball enough to look good
Those were his best years because the rest of the Knicks were such garbage that he could pile up the stats.
Knicks really screw him big time. Its not just the money he really want to play in new york just did not work out on him. He should have joined the bulls or Portland like dame said his been trying to make him to play for them. If only Melo did not sign the 3 years extensiom before asking a trade
I'm surprised you only have 300 k sub. I'm not even that big of a basketball fan, but you make me want to watch it!
Jabari Jones You grew up in the 90s?
@@jknumber5138 yes I did!
T Mac was as good as Kobe. If he didn’t get injury , he would have won few rings with a good team
Dr Evil offensively yes, but Kobe was a much better defender
Mitch Richmond
DAMN I CAN SEE YOUR BIAS
YOU PUT WADE AND KOBE AND LEFT LeBRON OUT
LOL THAT'S 😂😂🔥🔥
I Grew up in DETROIT , a BAD BOYS. At 13 I moved to California This was the year Barkley took the Suns to the finals. I loved Barkley as player
1st name that came to mind was George Gervin.
Same
???
Shareef Abdur-Rahim should be on this list. Being the top 3 pick of the legendary 1996 draft class, he puts up good numbers on an awful Vancouver Grizzlies team and Atlanta Hawks Squad. He was a nimble and talented Power Forward but only played 1 playoff series in 11 seasons. I like him though.
honorable mentions
pete maravich in 1977
bob mcadoo in 1975
chuck person in 1991
vlade divac in 1995
wilt chamberlain in 1963
kareem in 1977
westbrook in 2017
griffin in 2013
I feel for TMac and KG... Two of the greatest in my era, they both went out there & left everything out on the court every single night and still they couldn't get over the hump, especially KG being in the Western Conference. Kobe and Paul, hell even DWade got their due & won titles before Father Time came and collected, making their runs as the prime options on their teams more memorable and special. Almost mythical to me. A.I. awwwww mane I wish and Barkley was in better situations in Philadelphia, both of them could of won a championship there, needed the right pieces. Great video, Andy!!!!!! #RIPKobe #MambaWillAlwaysLiveOn
I always have a soft spot for stars with no help. Even the ones I despised like Kobe and Lebron
@@raymondsmith2040 As a Kobe fan, back then if he ever left the Lakers, I was gonna be riding along whatever team he picked no cap cause I was tired of seeing greatness get blown by every year in those battles with Phoenix, especially the year we had the 3-1 series lead in '06 or '07.
While many of these guys were on bad teams, it could be argued that some of them didn't do enough to elevate their teams. The prime example here is Tracy McGrady. People like to ignore how often McGrady choked in the playoffs.
The 76ers Finals run and Cleveland’s 07 Finals run really are remarkable. As this video proves, a great player on a bad team usually equals a bad team. Or at the most a mediocre team.
If they have a winning record thats several games above .500, they're not mediocre
Here soon we’ll be talking about Kemba with the hornets
Well this aged horribly
Chris bosh on the raptors
Man bosh T Mac and carter they would of done some damage
Vince carter Raptors
chris bosh had an overall average career because he literally never faced legends like oscar robertson kareem abdul-jabbar wilt chamberlain and bill russell
Gary Thompson there’s nothing average about Chris Bosh’s career lmao
@@cade9173 i already summed that up
Kobe and D Wade wouldn't count as wasted since they already won Champs!!!
crossthewater2002 both of them could have more rings if they hadn't those horrible teammates
They won chips after that as well. So def not wasted incredibles yes wasted no.
exactly idk why they are on this list.
No Mitch Richmond in Sac? Put up great numbers, was all-nba, and only made the playoffs once in a 7 year stretch. Gotta give it to him
who agrees andy hoops is one of the best basketball youtuber
Is it fair to say Vince Carter wasted his entire career on bad teams?
Grant Hill? Dominique Wilkins? Mitch Richmond? Reggie Miller? Dikembe Mutumbo? Vince Carter? Ray Allen? Steve Smith? Mark Aguirre? David Robinson? Ron Harper? Glen Rice?
Hey dumbass this is a top 7 list
Mitch Richmond's career essentially rotted in Sacramento for like a decade.
2018 Lebron should be there, Thats the most dominant performance i saw him play, he literally Carried those bums to the FINALS. And next year after he left, Cavs back again on bring the worst team in the NBA with literally same line up as 2018 🤦♂️
They made the finals and you call it wasted? With Wade and bosh he also lost a finals..
@@maartenvz It was wasted because it is the 3rd least talented team to make the NBA Finals in the last 20 years. Not even good enough to make the playoffs without him. The only other teams worse to make the finals where the 2007 Cavs, and the 2001 Sixers, that AI carried all the way to the finals.
Dirk after Nash left. He literally carried the Mavericks to the playoffs each year. He carried the mavs to 2011 championships. As a mavs fan he deserves more
I always tell people AI either had no help or he got help too late. Those seasons you talked about had a YOUNG Iguodala, Korver, and an old Webber. If those guys were in their prime, no question they would've made it far.
A.I. and C-Webb in their primes together would have been fun to watch.
Another awesome Andy hoops video when you hear those amazing trumpets in the background , but yeah lots of all time greats late in their careers on bad teams , certainly those who didn’t had a lot of good help
Grant Hill on the Detroit Pistons would be another good choice
Could you do a video on trades that didn’t help either team involved? If that’s even possible lol
like Irving-Thomas trade
The Dwight trade
GH07 KILLER he did a video on that trade
Should've put LeBron, Ray Allen, George Gervin.
Technically, Jordan wasted his best years on bad teams.
Also: Pete Maravich and Oscar Robertson ;)
They time would come. He's the reason most super stars never got a ring in the 90s. 80s was all Magic Bird Thomas or Dr. J
charles barkley was an elite superstar and the better a player then probably the less help they need and those 76ers teams he was on never once got past round 2 while he only led the suns past round 2 in 1993 with them going 13-11 in the playoffs
Lebron in Cavs, Kudos to the King but then He Managed So well the Cavs in His Young Career. So no one talking that Lebron Carry a team by Himself at the Young Age.
6:15
Interesting how Charles and Maurice are the only players with pictures. Goes along with Maurice being easily the second-best player on that team.
I appreciate you Andy for not using Kobe as the thumbnail just to attract views you’re a real G
Mitch Richmond!
Nobody will ever be as loyal as Kevin Garnett
Made the playoffs with troy Hudson
Superstars from 2000s, and sir Charles
Great video bro
10:51 My thought: bad teams brought out NBA legends' best times.
Sorry andy, but t-mac waived all his rights to be on any "great player on bad team" list when he ditched vince carter and the potential dynasty they could've built.
You should've included the young LeBron. He single handedly carried a terrible Cavs team to the Finals, and had great playoff runs during mid to late 2000's.
What if kg and td switch teams?
Kg will not have the same success as td. KG's personality will clash with pop.
I felt they could’ve won 2-3 rings. Tim would’ve been smart tho and left the T wolves sooner than KG tho
And that's why TD will always be the best PF
Damn almost everyone a 2000s legend. Strange coincidence
Cuz there were a lot of 1 man star teams
And this list is without Dirk Nowitzki after the departure of Nash he had also very little help
@@jobaru6519 Dirk did not have terrible teams though.
@@jobaru6519 he had finley, nash and terry. 18+ppg scorers and they also have solid defense.
You know, people would've been saying that Dirk wasted HIS best seasons on the Mavs had they not won the title a little while later. So all of this is very skeptical.
He has nash, finley, terry who are both 18+ppg scorers and he has 2 all stars for almost all of his career
You forgot Jordan in Chicago those years until he finally did it with Pippen.
Bradley Beal is the modern day Paul Pierce
Today - Suns make NBA Finals
Yeah and get destroyed
Trash. Suns beat teams that are handicapped lmfao then they faced a not handicapped team in the finals and they got obliterated
Trash and overrated
"wasted-" i whole heartedly disagree. the 80's and 90's were different eras. it was a different time then. those men WANTED all the pressure. they WANTED to be "THE MAN" and it translated into great performances and very few regrets. d-wade was actually happy in miami- and he knew any team with pat riley was gonna win eventually. KG had starbury- and wally world too. but steph wouldnt stay put. as for kobe buckets- any man with 5 rings- didnt "waste" much...
Andy Hoops is the man. I have watched nearly all your vids and I love them. You even inspired me to start my own TH-cam channel because of how great yours is. I would love support for some support and feedback on how I am doing. ANDY HOOPS IS THE MAN.
I do think these stars having their best individual seasons when their team was bad is because they simply didn't have any options on offense, e.g. mid-2000s Kobe wasn't any better as a player than 2008-10 Kobe (he was arguably worse, a big part of Kobe's greatness being his willingness to constantly improve his game season after season) but had better stats.
U could probably add 90% of all players drafted to this list!
Dirk nowitzki of course it should be inside in this category
chris Savv no
Wrong. Dirk's prime years were from 2000-01 to 2010-11 and the Mavericks won 50 games or more each of those years. Hard to say those were 'wasted'.
I saw Allen Iverson play at the Palace of Auburn Hills in MI while he was wearing a Pistons jersey (must have been 2009-2010) he dropped 35 points and made it look easy even at that point in his career!! I still remember watching Iverson play for John Thompson at Georgetown while I was in middle school, and the next year when he was a rookie I snatched up the Iverson and Kobe Topps Finest refractor rookie cards. I had my basketball card collection swiped away quite a few years ago, and damn did I have a ton of gems!! The memories remain however, nobody can take those away!!
Actually I think some better what ifs were if KG would have teamed up with other nba legends like Kobe and Shaq on the Lakers,Tim Duncan and Tony Parker on the Spurs, Dirk Nowinski on the Mavericks, Steve Nash on the Suns and many more
How good was Sam Cassell a underrated point guard who averaged 19 and 5 in his prime.
Has3 rings also idk underrated maybe but at his best we’re would you rate him compare to players he played ageist
Kwame Brown wasted his prime on Lakers.
Scalabrine wasted his prime on Celtics except for that one year where he carried them to a championship.
Michael Jordan before de rise of Pipen
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Paul Pierce was stuck on the rebuilding Celtics. Thank God the KG and Ray Allen aquisition happened
Maybe 84-88 jordan and 06-10 lebron as well
Wait the Magic were a year away from having tmac play with d Howard??
Pistol Pete was on some awful Hawks teams too
Andy omg PLS, if you havent already, do a video on KENNY *THE JUMPSHOT* SAILORS
KG really spent a majority of his career in on a bad team
Thank you about D Wade true fans know he deserves one mvp
Nah but he definitely deserved 9th in mvp voting
Chris Gratton shit ain’t funny
man his team was 43-9. Compare it to LeBron's 66-16 and it's pretty obvious the right man was given the MVP. No matter how well you play, you won't get the MVP with such record, unless you average a tripple double I guess and even then. Westbrook's team had at least a little bit better record.
@@ocstunna Robbing Ag was not funny
I’m at school right now imma still watch
Ian Arguello lol same
Bob McAdoo, That Guy was a Very Bad Man! Bob played for Buffalo (LA Clippers), New York, Boston, Detroit, New Jersey, LA Lakers, and the 76ers! He was the Stetch Center in the NBA even if he barely shoot the 3! "He was 3x Scoring Champ, 5x All Star, MVP, All-Star MVP, 3x He Averaged Over 30+ Points in a Season, 3x All-NBA Winnings (One of the First to Win that Award), 55% Career True Shooting, & 2x Champs!" Was Certainly the First Stretch Center to Plays, even if he Barely Shoot the 3s Points-Ball! (1972-1986)
Tracy Mcgrady’s late game performances in some playoff series were a huge reason his teams never had much success.
I know Gilbert Arenas and Michael Redd had short primes, but they could be on here.
Not NBA Legends
10:12
Yep, that was 3 of the years he LED THE LEAGUE in Bricks, and only had a shooting percentage more than 1-2% above league AVERAGE in one of them.
ONE great year, 2 good ones - and that was his peak.
If your putting Kobe and wade on here you can put lebron his first time in Cleveland
The best player on a bad team don't always mean their good,just more opportunities.wtf do you guys be talking bout.
Dave Bing???? 244-329 in his first 7 seasons, with ONE playoff appearance. He averaged 23.7 points, 4.4 boards and 6.1 assists, made 4 All-Star game appearances, and was on some very bad teams. Mitch Richmond went through a 221-353 stretch with Sacramento, with one playoff appearance. Averaged 23.3 points, 4.1 assists and 1.3 steals while making 5 All-NBA teams. Probably should have been All-Defense a few times but his teams were really bad. I'd put both of them on this list. HOF guys.
Mitch Richmond definitely for sure
Kemba deserves to be on this list if not an honorable mention.
David Robinson had his best seasons with a shitty team until Duncan arrived.
Damn Sixers has Iverson Iggy and Webber & sucked I remembered being excited we got Webber but he was out of his prime by then
Don't forget Korver was on that squad too