I just picked it up from my AD last Friday. I was basically sold on it before I had a chance to see it in person. When I finally did get my hands on it, the larger grippy crown and the Tfit clasps closed the deal for me. I have a 7inch wrist and it fits perfectly, the thickness doesn't bother me. Great review and the one that you did before this comparing it to the Rolex Explorer II. If you're looking for a vintage Explorer II without the price, this is a great watch to consider. I hope Tudor puts this crown and clasp on the next BB58 and a little bit more teeth on the bezel and that's going to be my next watch. Thank you.
Another great review Harrison. I appreciated the exact thickness measurements on different points of the case. It looks like the side of the case is 2.5mm too thick vs the Explorer II and the crystal 1mm too thick. I could live with the crystal but not with the extra bulk of the case. Looking forward to the video on your thoughts of the Polar, especially how transitioning from black dials to a white dial has impacted your journey, and overall on how you feel about it. Was the 4 year wait worth it? Not for you after all? Crazy in love with it? . Keep up the good work!!
Appreciate the note! I don't know if I answer all those in the upcoming video, but I've got a few thoughts on it. I'll be giving more long term, and especially if I do a State of The Collection video
The day they were announced I ordered a BB Pro from a local Tudor AD, loved the look of the faded orange colour on the dial and hand, the resemblance to the 1655 Rolex was unmistakable. Add the T-fit bracelet, case size, previous positive experience with modern Tudors - I own both a BB36 and a 58, consider me sold. It has been about 8 weeks in my possession and I still have reservations and a couple of positives to point out. First, the thumbs up, the T fit, love it, why all current watches don't come with a similar adjustable bracelet is a mystery to me. The accuracy is also a plus, less than a second a day gained over the past two months, couldn't ask better. OTOH, it is a bit thick, making the adjustable bracelet essential to ensure a snug fit. The overall weight in my second concern, on my skinny wrist it is a noticeable heft, so far I'm living with it but only time will tell.
A great summary. I was lucky to get one in April on bracelet. It's been half way round the world with me. Great for holidays travel and swimming. I have slender wrists and don't have an issue. I have the 58 too. I think both have a place in my collection. Cheers.
Great job. Funny I am on the wait list and the Explorer II Polar (new only, won’t buy the used or spend $1 over MSRP) is my grail. Completely agree about adapting - I jump back and forth; have a Helm Komodo white dial that’s 15.6! No problem. Just picked up the re-released Steinhart Ocean GMT (patina version) - assuming the Tudor dealer keeps selling the Pros to their flipper buddies and I lose interest in the Pro. Great watch for $500.
Walked into an AD and had one in cabinet no wait list - never thought it was the watch for me till saw in metal and now I’ve shifted half of my watchbox as I wear nothing else
The way the case is beveled makes the thickness (almost) a non-issue. Very easily could be a one-and-done. And your point about the bezel numerals disappearing at a distance is something I really like as a security feature. Traveling with it means it’s very under the radar and less likely to make you a target.
@@ivankerr3570 It depends where you travel/live. On some countries if someone recognizes the watch and know they can easily sell it for $500-$1000 US they'll have no problem taking it from you at knife/gun point. It may not be a kilo of gold, but it can certainly get you robbed, "bro".
“Subtle and under the radar” is what I’m going for, but I also want a watch that I will love to wear everyday and will last the rest of my life. So I’m still on the fence about a used 16570 (40mm) or the BB Pro. Also, what about overall long-term cost of ownership, I’m assuming Rolex will cost more to service or is that a wash?
That’s a tough call. For me, I buy for design, but I keep based on wearability, how easy is it to slip it on and it disappear. The Pro was never going to be that watch for me. Ended up being too thick. Plus compared to the Explorer II it was never a keeper. Just a stop gap. My two cents! Wear both several times and then decide!
Hi! Can I make a suggestion? Your face looks too dark. I love the smooth light on the background but you should be better enlightened. Keep it on, great honest content, man!
It looks better than a 1655 to me. I can easily adjust from 36mm to 42mm case diameter, but I don't like the way a thick watch feels on my wrist. I prefer watches to be no thicker than 12.5 mm. So a pass for me.
Shame the date complication broke. Since it seems to still be an on-going problem with this movement it must be a design, rather than a QC, problem…you’d hope…or not.
Long story short if you like thin dress watches, this is not your watch. Save up and get the explorer 2. Otherwise its fantastic. I own it and would love if the midcase was a little thinner, but it’s the most comfortable watch I own and ticks every “adventure watch” checkbox I could ask for. Extra personal preference bonus for me is no cyclops window. Every clasp on every watch brand should follow this example.
Yea I don't get why it had to be so damn thick. Were vintage watches that big in the past? Not that I remember. Just throws the proportions off too much for me. Like they were trying to take a page out of the Invicta playbook and some of their hideous monster watches. Overall not terrible but I'd have to get one one wrist to truly judge this watch.
I can’t believe the amount of people that have complained about having an extra millimeter on their wrist since this watch came out, bunch of Cinderellas.
@@HarrisonElmore Thank you! I definitely think you should keep it; it looks great on your wrist and the proportions work well. The Rolex Exp 2 is a banger, but at 42mm it just misses the mark for me. The BBPro is that rough & tough adventurers watch, with the right presence I was looking for
I feel like the watch is just ridiculously thick for 39mm and people are trying to justify to themselves that this is somehow OK because the best feature of this watch is that "it looks like a Rolex" lol. Seriously, nobody would even look at this piece if it wasn't for the Rolex connection, let's be real. And I find that quite the opposite - the bracelet fits more on the BB than on this, because here we have a real tool look with matte dial, no polished hands, and yet the bracelet is the thing that's Vintage and overcomplicated with the rivets. Maybe a real nice SIMPLE tapered bracelet would save this watch, at this point these huge slab sides of the thick case are hard to look at, even harder with the straps...
You’re probably right. If not a Tudor people would be ripping it. But not wanting to offend Rolex and/or not wanting to look like an unknowledgeable watch person they go easy on it. Having said that I will still buy one if I ever get called because I know that despite the coming recession I’ll still never get the call from Rolex for any of their GMTs and refuse to pay grey market joke rates.
It’s called a homage. And if that’s in-house then every swatch with an ETA is in-house. It’s pretty though (aside from the thickness and slab sides) - but that’s thanks to Rolex of course. Health to wear it, hope you enjoy.
@@drdesign6886 so..they purchased, it's theirs. It is their venture and is part of Tudor. The movement is being developed exclusively for Tudor by themselves, so it is an in-house movement. All the brands that you would consider as using in-house movements, are most likely using a completely different division or "company" to build them. I find it different than what ETA is doing. But some ETA movements can also be considered in-house in my book. Like with various Longines, some of their movements are made exclusively for them by a company that is within the same group. Some brands on the other hand just use a regular ETA or Selitta, used by various brands and models, and call it a fancy name. That's not in-house. But as I said, to me the in-house movement thing doesn't matter one bit. All I care is that the movement is great and reliable. And "regular" movements are even easier and cheaper when it comes to servicing, so that's fine by me, as long as brands don't overcharge and keep the watch cost reasonable for a watch with a certain movement inside.
@@tiagodvt I don’t care about in house either. Biggest marketing trick in luxury watches. Tudor to me are a bit of joke brand though - they charge luxury prices for a watch that is designed by Rolex and the in house movement is one they simply bought. Just my opinion mind - some ppl like a luxury homage brand and that’s cool. Some like Steinhart and that cool. Just not for me personally.
@@BB-gl7zt LOL, fair. In his defense, he said the watch is very amagnetic not only silicon hairspring which I think can be considered effectively amagnetic as hairspring. The steel parts in almost every other part of the watch can be easily magnetized which can all affect its timekeeping, though certainly not as much as that of a magnetized hairspring. Silicon's dielectric constant is very low but it is non-zero so it is not technically amagnetic in all applications and if one were to be insist on perfect usage of the word, one would have to qualify it with claiming it is effectively amagnetic in its application inside a stated range of electromagnetic field strength within an acceptable tolerance to not affect its performance. That would be confusing and unnecessary outside of a technical manual, or at the very least, be an annoyingly long bullet point in sales and marketing materials and TH-cam video. (Full disclosure, I am responding at 6am before my coffee so I could be wrong. Also, I was a very poor student and I had to take my graduate level electromagnetism course thrice to pass to eventually get my physics degree. Now I am discussing watches online while sitting at home in my underwear. Money well spent. Sigh.)
Awesome review, love how you touched on points that other people glance over.
I appreciate that!
You deserve a lot more subscribers,I really enjoy your approach on the reviews!!!Keep it up
Appreciate it!
I just picked it up from my AD last Friday. I was basically sold on it before I had a chance to see it in person. When I finally did get my hands on it, the larger grippy crown and the Tfit clasps closed the deal for me. I have a 7inch wrist and it fits perfectly, the thickness doesn't bother me. Great review and the one that you did before this comparing it to the Rolex Explorer II. If you're looking for a vintage Explorer II without the price, this is a great watch to consider. I hope Tudor puts this crown and clasp on the next BB58 and a little bit more teeth on the bezel and that's going to be my next watch. Thank you.
Congrats. 👍
One of the best watch channels, great work.
Kind of you to say!
I'm on a list for one and I think the wait list is no problem at all. You'll have just more time to save up for it! Greetings Oni
Great review of this model, all I do is look at watches on TH-cam and this is the best black bay pro review.
Looks good on your wrist , what size is your wrist . I was concern it might be too small for my wrist and I’ve got the Tudor Chrono instead
Another great review Harrison. I appreciated the exact thickness measurements on different points of the case. It looks like the side of the case is 2.5mm too thick vs the Explorer II and the crystal 1mm too thick. I could live with the crystal but not with the extra bulk of the case. Looking forward to the video on your thoughts of the Polar, especially how transitioning from black dials to a white dial has impacted your journey, and overall on how you feel about it. Was the 4 year wait worth it? Not for you after all? Crazy in love with it? . Keep up the good work!!
Appreciate the note! I don't know if I answer all those in the upcoming video, but I've got a few thoughts on it. I'll be giving more long term, and especially if I do a State of The Collection video
Great video tudor is knocking it out of the park 👏
Value and design are certainly there!
It wears perfect on my 7.5 inch wrist. Looks fantastic, keeps time -1/+2 seconds per day. It is a keeper.
The day they were announced I ordered a BB Pro from a local Tudor AD, loved the look of the faded orange colour on the dial and hand, the resemblance to the 1655 Rolex was unmistakable. Add the T-fit bracelet, case size, previous positive experience with modern Tudors - I own both a BB36 and a 58, consider me sold.
It has been about 8 weeks in my possession and I still have reservations and a couple of positives to point out. First, the thumbs up, the T fit, love it, why all current watches don't come with a similar adjustable bracelet is a mystery to me. The accuracy is also a plus, less than a second a day gained over the past two months, couldn't ask better. OTOH, it is a bit thick, making the adjustable bracelet essential to ensure a snug fit. The overall weight in my second concern, on my skinny wrist it is a noticeable heft, so far I'm living with it but only time will tell.
Let me know when you’re ready to sell.
So you think that the faux-rivet bracelet fits better on a 70’s styled BB pro than on a 50’s styled BB58 ?
A great summary. I was lucky to get one in April on bracelet. It's been half way round the world with me. Great for holidays travel and swimming. I have slender wrists and don't have an issue. I have the 58 too. I think both have a place in my collection. Cheers.
What’s your wrist size?
Great review. Why is the so much debris under the glass in the watch face? White specs?
I don’t know if that’s the watch or my lack of wiping off the crystal
This or the ranger?
Already have a BB
Great job. Funny I am on the wait list and the Explorer II Polar (new only, won’t buy the used or spend $1 over MSRP) is my grail. Completely agree about adapting - I jump back and forth; have a Helm Komodo white dial that’s 15.6! No problem.
Just picked up the re-released Steinhart Ocean GMT (patina version) - assuming the Tudor dealer keeps selling the Pros to their flipper buddies and I lose interest in the Pro. Great watch for $500.
Walked into an AD and had one in cabinet no wait list - never thought it was the watch for me till saw in metal and now I’ve shifted half of my watchbox as I wear nothing else
It’s a great design for sure! Enjoy!
I too am from Indiana and can concur on the daily temp variation lol
It's perfect. I don't get the thick talk at all. It's the most comfortable watch I own.
The way the case is beveled makes the thickness (almost) a non-issue. Very easily could be a one-and-done.
And your point about the bezel numerals disappearing at a distance is something I really like as a security feature. Traveling with it means it’s very under the radar and less likely to make you a target.
Target? Jesus it’s just a Tudor not a kilo of gold. Man up a bit bro
@@ivankerr3570 It depends where you travel/live. On some countries if someone recognizes the watch and know they can easily sell it for $500-$1000 US they'll have no problem taking it from you at knife/gun point. It may not be a kilo of gold, but it can certainly get you robbed, "bro".
“Subtle and under the radar” is what I’m going for, but I also want a watch that I will love to wear everyday and will last the rest of my life. So I’m still on the fence about a used 16570 (40mm) or the BB Pro. Also, what about overall long-term cost of ownership, I’m assuming Rolex will cost more to service or is that a wash?
That’s a tough call. For me, I buy for design, but I keep based on wearability, how easy is it to slip it on and it disappear. The Pro was never going to be that watch for me. Ended up being too thick. Plus compared to the Explorer II it was never a keeper. Just a stop gap. My two cents! Wear both several times and then decide!
@@HarrisonElmore awesome! Thanks for the advice!
Hi! Can I make a suggestion? Your face looks too dark. I love the smooth light on the background but you should be better enlightened. Keep it on, great honest content, man!
BB pro a solid tool watch🎉
I just specifically bought a 14mm thick Spinnaker to see if I could get used to it for cheap. Time will tell.
At 3:05….kind word of advice. It’s NOT “intensive purposes,” it’s “intents AND purposes.” Good video
It looks better than a 1655 to me. I can easily adjust from 36mm to 42mm case diameter, but I don't like the way a thick watch feels on my wrist. I prefer watches to be no thicker than 12.5 mm. So a pass for me.
Fair! Can't blame you. It's a pass for me as well in the end.
Do you think it is tough enough for police or military?
Yea if you're sitting behind a desk.
Why do you think the rivets get a bad wrap in the bb58 but no one cares on the pro?
People haven’t had the pro long enough. Once hype starts to subside the same thing will happen as with the BB58 - everyone will sell it.
Haha funny sell because of these rivets you can barely see.
Shame the date complication broke. Since it seems to still be an on-going problem with this movement it must be a design, rather than a QC, problem…you’d hope…or not.
Yeah I’d wonder what happened. Hopefully I can let everyone know when I know
The finishing on the hands is shocking . And............ It IS too thick.
Long story short if you like thin dress watches, this is not your watch. Save up and get the explorer 2. Otherwise its fantastic. I own it and would love if the midcase was a little thinner, but it’s the most comfortable watch I own and ticks every “adventure watch” checkbox I could ask for.
Extra personal preference bonus for me is no cyclops window.
Every clasp on every watch brand should follow this example.
Yea I don't get why it had to be so damn thick. Were vintage watches that big in the past? Not that I remember. Just throws the proportions off too much for me. Like they were trying to take a page out of the Invicta playbook and some of their hideous monster watches. Overall not terrible but I'd have to get one one wrist to truly judge this watch.
wear it for a year and you'll know if its too thick
If u own a Rolex Explorer 2, you won’t feel like getting this BB Pro GMT.
I can’t believe the amount of people that have complained about having an extra millimeter on their wrist since this watch came out, bunch of Cinderellas.
Does anybody see the really bad paintjob on the indicators? That's not worth 4k.
Ah, ok, the thickness is 14.6mm now
Yes! I measured it again
@@HarrisonElmore Thank you! I definitely think you should keep it; it looks great on your wrist and the proportions work well. The Rolex Exp 2 is a banger, but at 42mm it just misses the mark for me. The BBPro is that rough & tough adventurers watch, with the right presence I was looking for
This is a thin watch compares to my Deepsea.
That's true. Thickness is all relative
I feel like the watch is just ridiculously thick for 39mm and people are trying to justify to themselves that this is somehow OK because the best feature of this watch is that "it looks like a Rolex" lol. Seriously, nobody would even look at this piece if it wasn't for the Rolex connection, let's be real. And I find that quite the opposite - the bracelet fits more on the BB than on this, because here we have a real tool look with matte dial, no polished hands, and yet the bracelet is the thing that's Vintage and overcomplicated with the rivets. Maybe a real nice SIMPLE tapered bracelet would save this watch, at this point these huge slab sides of the thick case are hard to look at, even harder with the straps...
Well said. It is just anRolex homage and.... not even a good one.
Maybe people just want a real GMT that’s smaller in diameter for a decent price.
You’re probably right. If not a Tudor people would be ripping it. But not wanting to offend Rolex and/or not wanting to look like an unknowledgeable watch person they go easy on it.
Having said that I will still buy one if I ever get called because I know that despite the coming recession I’ll still never get the call from Rolex for any of their GMTs and refuse to pay grey market joke rates.
It’s called a homage. And if that’s in-house then every swatch with an ETA is in-house. It’s pretty though (aside from the thickness and slab sides) - but that’s thanks to Rolex of course. Health to wear it, hope you enjoy.
This is in fact an in-house movement, made by Tudor. Not that the in-house movement thing matters to me, but the comparison with ETA makes no sense.
@@tiagodvt they purchased a third party movement manufacturer. They didn’t develop it. So ETA comparison is ideal actually.
@@drdesign6886 so..they purchased, it's theirs. It is their venture and is part of Tudor. The movement is being developed exclusively for Tudor by themselves, so it is an in-house movement. All the brands that you would consider as using in-house movements, are most likely using a completely different division or "company" to build them.
I find it different than what ETA is doing. But some ETA movements can also be considered in-house in my book. Like with various Longines, some of their movements are made exclusively for them by a company that is within the same group. Some brands on the other hand just use a regular ETA or Selitta, used by various brands and models, and call it a fancy name. That's not in-house.
But as I said, to me the in-house movement thing doesn't matter one bit. All I care is that the movement is great and reliable. And "regular" movements are even easier and cheaper when it comes to servicing, so that's fine by me, as long as brands don't overcharge and keep the watch cost reasonable for a watch with a certain movement inside.
@@tiagodvt I don’t care about in house either. Biggest marketing trick in luxury watches. Tudor to me are a bit of joke brand though - they charge luxury prices for a watch that is designed by Rolex and the in house movement is one they simply bought. Just my opinion mind - some ppl like a luxury homage brand and that’s cool. Some like Steinhart and that cool. Just not for me personally.
As an insufferably pedantic scienceman, THANK YOU for saying amagnetic and not anti-magnetic. Great video on a pretty great watch!
Yes agreed but he still managed to get the usage wrong. How can something be very amagnetic? Either it is or isn't. It's like being very pregnant.
@@BB-gl7zt LOL, fair. In his defense, he said the watch is very amagnetic not only silicon hairspring which I think can be considered effectively amagnetic as hairspring. The steel parts in almost every other part of the watch can be easily magnetized which can all affect its timekeeping, though certainly not as much as that of a magnetized hairspring. Silicon's dielectric constant is very low but it is non-zero so it is not technically amagnetic in all applications and if one were to be insist on perfect usage of the word, one would have to qualify it with claiming it is effectively amagnetic in its application inside a stated range of electromagnetic field strength within an acceptable tolerance to not affect its performance. That would be confusing and unnecessary outside of a technical manual, or at the very least, be an annoyingly long bullet point in sales and marketing materials and TH-cam video.
(Full disclosure, I am responding at 6am before my coffee so I could be wrong. Also, I was a very poor student and I had to take my graduate level electromagnetism course thrice to pass to eventually get my physics degree. Now I am discussing watches online while sitting at home in my underwear. Money well spent. Sigh.)