Hey Blackie of two years ago. Please never think that we would get bored watching you load all six cylinders. Historically speaking it is interesting to see how long it took someone to do a reload. Perhaps you could do a video on reloading your BP revolver under different conditions. Simulate combat conditions with people yelling in the background, have others firing nearby to create the smoke called the FOG of war.
it truly is how fluid and for lack of a better term modern they look..and to do it in mass for a military fighting a war...during ww1 and ww2 they had to cut costs and finishing to speed production to the front lines..but colt did it with steam and water powered tools
Thanks for another informative video! Great to see someone loading without using a table or a stand...brings us a lot closer to how the oldtimers must have done it.
I have the 51 Colt Navy from Pietta in 36 caliber. Anyone who says they don't have much penetration hasn't tried one. The roundball will go through a 2x6 and a 2x4 together. All the way thru the x6 and almost out the other side on the x4 behind it. They will also punch a hole clean through and out the back side of an empty propane canister, the small green ones. Trust me, this passes the old one-inch pine board test easy. Remington is heavier and bigger. Colts are cleaner and better balanced. I will take a Colt over a Rem any day of the week.
I got into black powder by firing a Ruger Old Army on a hog hunt in Kistachie National Forrest. Within 30 days I owned one. Now I have two, one stainless. I never get tired of firing them. I actually consider them utility pistols. Good for a lot of different things when they are properly loaded. I have developed shot loads for snake and waterproof loads for hunting or long term (more than a few days) loading. One of the most important utilities of these pstols is the amount of fun you can have with them.
I LOVE this series.QUESTION.can you or have you already,shown how to get your timing correct? I have a uberti 1858 Remington .36 navy that is a smidge off.not enough to hurt its use,but it does ping the cylinder.
I have seen a few European Colt copies with different roll marks on the cylinder. I think they were made under Colt licensing. I have an 1860 Army from Belgium produced in the early 1960's called the new Army 1960 Centennial model. It has the Colt patent date and the European Colt standing horse. It is new in the box with all the paper work and has never been fired.
Hi Blackie. Enjoy your very informative videos. It seem Pyrodex lasts a long time in storage. Would the 1861 Navy’s barrel be interchangeable with the 1851? Thank You.
if both guns are same maker like 2 piettas or 2 unbertis..is is possible..i have build a uberti yrs ago with a 5 inch sheriff /51 barrel /16 barrel / and a 12 inch earp..in a set..but that was in the 80's take this with a grain of salt they may bake them a little dif today
Interesting that you put bore butter down the barrel. I did that before I went testing Eras Gone .31 Colt bullets. I shot 25 times before stopping and had almost zero powder residue in the barrel. I was using the EG mold bullets, a Wonder Wad and 11 grains of 3F. That leaves me with the ball even with the cylinder edge. On top of the bullet I put a mix of beeswax and bore butter that I melted into a butter tub. What was as interesting to me as the almost clean barrel was that I found the lube on the target, mostly behind the paper and on the wood backing it. I might have something here!
Hello sir, have been watching your videos recently because I had to repair my pietta 1851 navy revolver. The cylinder wouldn't spin in the half cock position. purchased a repair kit from Cabela's and it fixed that issue. But there is a little play when I have the hammer down, and I try to turn the cylinder. can you tell me if this is normal, or if there is a fix for this. Thanks
Another nice video Blackie!! This video has raised once again a long standing question I have had...what is your take on the reason for them making hex shaped barrels vs. round ones back in the day? I know some manufacturers were still making the hex/square barrels long after round ones were being done. I've heard all kinds of reasons why one was produced over the other, (one was easier to make over the other, looks/style, one is easier to finish, etc.). What is your input? Thanks once again!!
the hex came from the common gun barrels of the day hawkens ect kentucky rifles usually had hex..a round barrel was often a musket or smooth bore or as we would call it a shotgun..in the beginning colt used the hex for ease of building it..later with the 1860 he brought in the fluid barrels..again as a way to set his guns apart in the market place..
Not to sound like a smart alec. But are you guys actually finding hex barrels? ....i have only ever seen octagonal. A hex would be something of an oddity.
Blackie, with my Pietta 1851 .36, when shooting round ball, I notice that the rammer doesn’t seat the ball all the way down to the powder and I shove it down a bit more with a dowel. I load the recommended 17 grains of Pyrodex. Any way of increasing the depth of the rammer? Thx
I've been watching all of your videos (and many other creators') about percussion revolvers. After a couple of years of being fixed on a .44 1858 NMA, without actually getting any, now I'm starting to really fancy a .36 1851 or 1861. Which one would be best as a first one? :)
Fast forward one year later, and I'm clutching a brand new .36 1851 Navy Yank in my happy paws. Thank you, Blackie, for all of your wonderful advice that led me here today. 😄
Nice shootin Brother 🔫🔘. I bet with the rain and now that sun. The humidity is so high Like right here on the Chattahoochee . I wouldn't of been surprised to see a bass Using the shadow of your targets as structure. And you shooting while wearing scuba gear. I had a friend visit from Limerick Ireland a while back and Lord He said he felt like he was drowning with all the water in our air here in the south. The Alabama state bird. The Skeeter. Loved that boy Ate him alive. But There's a picture of My Family on the wall in the pub he frequents and Sweet Home Alabama on the juke Box. I told him. When ya get a shower here you damn near need another one because ya break a sweat drying off lol. Glad y'all made it through the weather. I know I saw one funnel cloud here. But it never got lower than 5 or 6 hundred feet. Still I slept with my boots on that night. Had my Nephews do the same. But out bag ready to go. Just in case one touched down and we had to skin out. Thanks for another great Video 👍 Sir
Great video Blackie, I molded up some conicals for my 1861 now I just get to get out to the range. Did they have cappers back in the day like we do or did they put the caps on with their fingers?
Nice gun Blackie, you still shot good even though it was like the waiting room to hell out there! Take care, and get into some air conditioning at home!
What do you think about the idea of loading conical bullets backwards to act like a wad cutter? Where did you get the tubes you use to carry pre measured charges?
correct dixie tubes..they can be done that way..but... the conical load because of a smaller base to fin in chamber mouth if you flip it around your ramming a over size much like a round ball and its just sqeezing it in..i don't think accuracy will be so hot that way..a keito conical is a wad cutter in the keith design style and should give you good perfomance
It probably wont hurt to try, however I would expect a large increase of cylinder gad flash as a pointed bullet. Does bot make a very good surface for gasses to push againstb
@@BLACKIETHOMAS I've been unable to find a keito conical, are you sure that is spelled right? (If so where are they?) The flat bullet base contacting the rammer and pointed nose should make loading straight and true easy. Would you mind trying some backwards loaded conicals? I think forward vs backward conicals would make an interesting comparison.
Never could figure out why somebody would buy one of these since the longer barrel is not historically accurate. Plus it's a Pietta, which is inferior to Uberti anyway.
I do not like those targets. No clang when they hit. I saw the targets swaying and could not tell you were putting lead on them. "Don't laugh." - Now means all 6 are going to hit. Course you have your favorite dialed in just right barring sweat in the eyes and mosquitoes.
Hey Blackie of two years ago. Please never think that we would get bored watching you
load all six cylinders. Historically speaking it is interesting to see how long it took someone to do a reload.
Perhaps you could do a video on reloading your BP revolver under different conditions. Simulate combat conditions with
people yelling in the background, have others firing nearby to create the smoke called the FOG of war.
Have assembled barrel, loading lever, and plunger for an 1851 Navy Uberti. It interchanges perfectly with my 1861 Navy.
good to know
Isn't it amazing how awe inspiring work was from the 1800's that man was able to make such superb firearms.
it truly is how fluid and for lack of a better term modern they look..and to do it in mass for a military fighting a war...during ww1 and ww2 they had to cut costs and finishing to speed production to the front lines..but colt did it with steam and water powered tools
always love the straight to the point videos you make
The feel of a Colt pistol, from the '49 Pocket Model to the 1911, is just right. Weight, balance, grip shape - Colt had it down.
I second that emotion, bgurtek.
i agree i respect the remington..but i have always been a colt man
1858 army is my choice.
Kaido Jomama bullets are my little friends.
"Stormborne" looks happy with the custom bullets.
she does
Thanks, enjoy watching your videos, a very good host and speaker!
Thanks for watching!
I have a 61 navy by uberti , it is my favorite revolver. I prefer it even over my 73 in 45 colt or my 71 navy in 38 spl.
they are good for sure
Thanks for sharing 🙏 Love the Homespun history too 👍 I got one of those as a kit, and like the way you did the antique look on yours. Blessings 🙏🐺
Thanks for another informative video! Great to see someone loading without using a table or a stand...brings us a lot closer to how the oldtimers must have done it.
You bet!..for me it was a field gun..so i streamlined for easy of carry and loading in the woods
Enjoyed it very much! More videos please. 👍
More to come!
I have the 51 Colt Navy from Pietta in 36 caliber. Anyone who says they don't have much penetration hasn't tried one. The roundball will go through a 2x6 and a 2x4 together. All the way thru the x6 and almost out the other side on the x4 behind it. They will also punch a hole clean through and out the back side of an empty propane canister, the small green ones. Trust me, this passes the old one-inch pine board test easy. Remington is heavier and bigger. Colts are cleaner and better balanced. I will take a Colt over a Rem any day of the week.
they deserve respect for sure..i have used mine as field guns for many yrs and always been impressed
Thanks Blackie, another great video. I love the look, sound and smoke of Stormborne, it must be a pleasure to own and shoot that revolver.
it is..she makes me look good..lol
Thank you for sharing the history of the gun Blackie. Wow, sounds like you have high humidity where your at.
yep i am less than 2 hrs from the gulf so i get lots of humidity
You are going to get me into black powder shooting Blackie, like I need another hobby, lol.
its a lot of fun
Try it out!
I got into black powder by firing a Ruger Old Army on a hog hunt in Kistachie National Forrest. Within 30 days I owned one. Now I have two, one stainless. I never get tired of firing them. I actually consider them utility pistols. Good for a lot of different things when they are properly loaded. I have developed shot loads for snake and waterproof loads for hunting or long term (more than a few days) loading.
One of the most important utilities of these pstols is the amount of fun you can have with them.
Really looking forward to the Kaido review. Always nice to see Stormborne she got me into this and has prompted me to own 4 of the colt copies so far.
i have been lazy i should have done the review months ago..
I LOVE this series.QUESTION.can you or have you already,shown how to get your timing correct? I have a uberti 1858 Remington .36 navy that is a smidge off.not enough to hurt its use,but it does ping the cylinder.
i will try to work that in soon..if you go back and check my earlier videos on tuning i think i went over some of it
@@BLACKIETHOMAS thank you!I must have missed it,I have to go through the series list.
I have seen a few European Colt copies with different roll marks on the cylinder. I think they were made under Colt licensing. I have an 1860 Army from Belgium produced in the early 1960's called the new Army 1960 Centennial model. It has the Colt patent date and the European Colt standing horse. It is new in the box with all the paper work and has never been fired.
Hi Blackie. Enjoy your very informative videos. It seem Pyrodex lasts a long time in storage. Would the 1861 Navy’s barrel be interchangeable with the 1851? Thank You.
if both guns are same maker like 2 piettas or 2 unbertis..is is possible..i have build a uberti yrs ago with a 5 inch sheriff /51 barrel /16 barrel / and a 12 inch earp..in a set..but that was in the 80's take this with a grain of salt they may bake them a little dif today
Interesting that you put bore butter down the barrel. I did that before I went testing Eras Gone .31 Colt bullets. I shot 25 times before stopping and had almost zero powder residue in the barrel. I was using the EG mold bullets, a Wonder Wad and 11 grains of 3F. That leaves me with the ball even with the cylinder edge. On top of the bullet I put a mix of beeswax and bore butter that I melted into a butter tub.
What was as interesting to me as the almost clean barrel was that I found the lube on the target, mostly behind the paper and on the wood backing it. I might have something here!
Hello sir, have been watching your videos recently because I had to repair my pietta 1851 navy revolver. The cylinder wouldn't spin in the half cock position. purchased a repair kit from Cabela's and it fixed that issue. But there is a little play when I have the hammer down, and I try to turn the cylinder. can you tell me if this is normal, or if there is a fix for this. Thanks
some play is normal..as long as the cyl locks up in proper alignment everything is good
Another nice video Blackie!! This video has raised once again a long standing question I have had...what is your take on the reason for them making hex shaped barrels vs. round ones back in the day? I know some manufacturers were still making the hex/square barrels long after round ones were being done. I've heard all kinds of reasons why one was produced over the other, (one was easier to make over the other, looks/style, one is easier to finish, etc.). What is your input? Thanks once again!!
the hex came from the common gun barrels of the day hawkens ect kentucky rifles usually had hex..a round barrel was often a musket or smooth bore or as we would call it a shotgun..in the beginning colt used the hex for ease of building it..later with the 1860 he brought in the fluid barrels..again as a way to set his guns apart in the market place..
Not to sound like a smart alec. But are you guys actually finding hex barrels? ....i have only ever seen octagonal. A hex would be something of an oddity.
@@greywuuf Sorry, I meant octagonal...but said hex by mistake.
@@BLACKIETHOMAS Makes sense...thanks again Blackie!!
Blackie, with my Pietta 1851 .36, when shooting round ball, I notice that the rammer doesn’t seat the ball all the way down to the powder and I shove it down a bit more with a dowel. I load the recommended 17 grains of Pyrodex. Any way of increasing the depth of the rammer? Thx
Should I buy this or the 1860 army 44 cal?
I've been watching all of your videos (and many other creators') about percussion revolvers. After a couple of years of being fixed on a .44 1858 NMA, without actually getting any, now I'm starting to really fancy a .36 1851 or 1861. Which one would be best as a first one? :)
Fast forward one year later, and I'm clutching a brand new .36 1851 Navy Yank in my happy paws. Thank you, Blackie, for all of your wonderful advice that led me here today. 😄
I've got a .36 cal 1861 Navy and I can't find ammo to save my life. Where do you get your supplies?
Nice shootin Brother 🔫🔘. I bet with the rain and now that sun. The humidity is so high Like right here on the Chattahoochee . I wouldn't of been surprised to see a bass Using the shadow of your targets as structure. And you shooting while wearing scuba gear. I had a friend visit from Limerick Ireland a while back and Lord He said he felt like he was drowning with all the water in our air here in the south. The Alabama state bird. The Skeeter. Loved that boy Ate him alive. But There's a picture of My Family on the wall in the pub he frequents and Sweet Home Alabama on the juke Box. I told him. When ya get a shower here you damn near need another one because ya break a sweat drying off lol. Glad y'all made it through the weather. I know I saw one funnel cloud here. But it never got lower than 5 or 6 hundred feet. Still I slept with my boots on that night. Had my Nephews do the same. But out bag ready to go. Just in case one touched down and we had to skin out. Thanks for another great Video 👍 Sir
yep life in the south aint for the timid
Great video Blackie, I molded up some conicals for my 1861 now I just get to get out to the range. Did they have cappers back in the day like we do or did they put the caps on with their fingers?
usually it was finger i have seen original types but most people would have not had them
Nice gun Blackie, you still shot good even though it was like the waiting room to hell out there! Take care, and get into some air conditioning at home!
i hear that
Blackie, need a wedge for functionality in 1861 navy,any ideas of where to find or what replacement works? Appreciated
yes i get them from taylors and company
@@BLACKIETHOMAS forgot to mention mine is an original got one from Lodgewood.
What do you think about the idea of loading conical bullets backwards to act like a wad cutter?
Where did you get the tubes you use to carry pre measured charges?
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correct dixie tubes..they can be done that way..but... the conical load because of a smaller base to fin in chamber mouth if you flip it around your ramming a over size much like a round ball and its just sqeezing it in..i don't think accuracy will be so hot that way..a keito conical is a wad cutter in the keith design style and should give you good perfomance
It probably wont hurt to try, however I would expect a large increase of cylinder gad flash as a pointed bullet. Does bot make a very good surface for gasses to push againstb
@@BLACKIETHOMAS I've been unable to find a keito conical, are you sure that is spelled right? (If so where are they?)
The flat bullet base contacting the rammer and pointed nose should make loading straight and true easy.
Would you mind trying some backwards loaded conicals?
I think forward vs backward conicals would make an interesting comparison.
That first ball came back up on the rammer, didn't it!
nope that was the lead shavings for earlier shots
@@BLACKIETHOMAS, man, I'll tell you it sure looked like that ball came up with the rammer on the video. I've actually had that happen before.
Have you got it shooting point of aim?
yes stormborne is sighted for that..i did a series on it a few yrs ago
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thanks safe journeys
Does the Walker also have the same naval battle scene?
it has a dragoon ( mounted troops ) on it
Never could figure out why somebody would buy one of these since the longer barrel is not historically accurate. Plus it's a Pietta, which is inferior to Uberti anyway.
I do not like those targets. No clang when they hit. I saw the targets swaying and could not tell you were putting lead on them. "Don't laugh." - Now means all 6 are going to hit. Course you have your favorite dialed in just right barring sweat in the eyes and mosquitoes.
With close caption on, every shot would be [APPLAUSE]. Appropriate!
haha i didnt know that
Would not laugh to start with!
hey i am just happy to get it down..lol
Get something modern blackie!☝️😖!
i already have..got bored went back to the past
@@BLACKIETHOMAS You're a good egg Blackie!..A real good egg!👍👍🤝😌.