The COMPLETE DISASTER That Is Godfather Part 3
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Welcome to the Heavy Spoilers show, I'm your host Paul and this video we're breaking down the Godfather Part 3.
just when I was out they pull me back in
Urrrr it's one of those isn't it. Like whenever you talk about the movie I think that you're obviously gonna get a lot of mixed feelings. Out of the entire trilogy this was the one I was most curious to come back to because it really hasn't got a good reputation. Even though it was nominated for best picture everyone agrees that this was the worst.
Whether its Sofia Coppolas performance, pay disputes behind the scenes or just the general...almost tv feel to it, everything was lambasted at the time. Now whenever Ive gone back to it I've always thought...eh...not so bad. Unfortunately though this is a sequel to two of the greatest films ever made so no matter what things were always gonna come up short. Coppola stated that he wanted to make an epilogue which would tell the aftermath of Michaels story. Those first two films handled it perfectly and thus many felt this was an unnecessary sequel.
However since its release I do think that the movies gained a fanbase. Coppola also recently re-edited the film and that's a major aspect of things I wanna talk about.
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30:22 Gloucester went blind, not King Lear. King Lear was morally blind, which is why Kay keeps calling Michael blind in the abortion scene of Part 2. It sounds like you didn't read King Lear, either. This explains why you don't like Part 3. You're evaluating Part 3 for it's entertainment value, not it's artistic value.
Mary died in Part 3 because Cordelia died in King Lear. That's where he got the famous King Lear howl that Michael does after holding Mary/Cordelia's dead body, recreating the classic imagery from the play.
We finally get a proper ending in Part 3 that matches King Lear. Michael Corleone's King Lear howl was as good as any I've ever seen. "Howl, howl, howl! O, you are men of stones! Had I your tongues and eyes, I’d use them so That heaven’s vault should crack. She’s gone forever."
Part 3 keeps growing in popularity through film schools, where it is evaluated for its complex artistic value compared to it's model, King Lear, instead of some simple form of entertainment with very simple stories and simple characters, like Goodfellas. The more people compare Part 3 to a complex classic work of art like King Lear, the more it's popularity grows over time, especially with the more educated people in every society.
For Halloween you should do a few of the old universal classic monster movies, or Coppola ‘s Dracula with Winona rider and Gary Oldman
Removing the Twin Towers from media is like erasing history. And I was in NYC on 9/11.
Well unfortunately it’s how they’ve always written history…How they want it to be remembered not what actually happened 😢
That way it's not at the forefront of people's minds. Future generations will forget, questions won't be asked...
I never understood removing the towers from media. To me, leaving them in shows respect and reverence
@@themurderdroneband yep
@@pewp3wpewlol no one is forgetting 9/11 it's literally brought up constantly.
Being the worst Godfather movie is like being the dumbest guy in Mensa
Nah I don’t take your point
I still wish Coppola would have stopped. They just don't seem to know when to quit. Kubrick and Kurosawa didn't make bad sequels.
exactly. the people who "hate" it are the same people who went to the theater to watch barbie. low iq parrots.
@@summertyme5748”you either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain”
Very well put, I think it is a great movie...
We have slang at my office that when you are almost finished at end of the day you get asked to stay late, we call it "Godfather III -ed"
On a sad footnote to this movie, actress Rebecca Schaeffer was going to read for the role of Michael's daughter the day she was shot to death at her house by a stalker.
oh gosh, that's so sad
Answered the door, thinking it was the delivery of the script.
It may not be as good as Part 1 and 2, but it definitely has some good moments
Part III is better than most of the movies today!
Says very little.
@@JackTorrance333 One of the best part III movies of all time.
@@JackTorrance333 Lol true. Tarantino said the 70s made the 80s look bad, but today makes the 80s look great.
@@JakeKilkaYou’re just living too much in the past. Old people tend to have that problem.
@@iheartcicada Uhuh and young people tend to have a problem, that they talk yes, but really have no clue what they're talking about.
The biggest problem for me is the shot of Kay looking more concerned at Michael's scream than at her daughter lying murdered beside her. Coppola's fault and the biggest nail in the coffin.
didn't you see her reaction when mary first died she was hysterical and then she was shocked at seeing michael like that
There are some hidden gems in this movie but what it boils down to is Santino’s Son having relations with Michael’s Daughter. That is the reason for the film’s downfall not the acting
The big problem with Vincent and Mary’s relationship (aside from the incest) it that her character is not that interesting, desirable or smart. Hardly worth a dangerous courtship with the godfather’s daughter!
Exactly.
29:42 your guy peeling an orange and shortly before pulling out the shotgun is character “Al Neri”. Look him up.
I dont think its a bad movie. Sure it's not as good as the first two but I really enjoyed it and that ending😢😢
It is NOT that bad of a movie. In fact, the “Godfather coda: the death of Michael Corleone” is actually a good movie.
I hated 3 as a teenager but enjoy Coda now. It's as enjoyable as any other gangster film, if a tier below 1 or 2.
Your turn around time between these was great! Thanks for all these
Had no idea about his sons death, but I think it adds another layer to Sophia being in the film. He said it was written with her in mind, but there was probably an added comfort knowing she was with him while he was filming. Especially considering he was filming while his son died
Been hyped for this breakdown! Love the different genres of movies uve been covering with the classic breakdowns, uve been absolutely killing it with each one! I’ve been really liking seeing the heavy spoilers crew on camera more. Great video brother! Excited for the next classic breakdown! 🔥🔥
Thank you mate, much appreciated
Disaster? For who? It was just the studio milking the cow!
The helicopter scene illustrates the Godfather 3 problem. They tried to ramp up scences to 11, which ultimately made no sense
I really enjoy these breakdowns. They almost always make me want to rewatch the movies afterwards, and i watch them with a fresh lens. Cheers mate
I'm not going to lie. I loved all 3 of them
This movie is NOT that bad...it's a little convoluted ans forced at the end, but people make it seem like it's MANOS: The Hands of Fate
By comparison though…
@@AlphonseWeebay well yeah, good point I guess.
I tend to look at movies as their own thing, unless it's like a true trilogy or whatever, one big ass tale,... like Lord of The Rings (whixh I have the weirdest take on them 😅... love em all. But While King is one of my all time favorite movies, Fellowship is my fav LOTR movie... does that make sense? Barely does to me
@@AlphonseWeebay I also don't get the whole GF2 > GF1 thing... .the 1st Godfather is absolutely PERFECT.... I love the whole insight and takes on the no subtitles when speaking Italian in the restaurant.
I'm no GF expert (I only just saw them all finly like 5 years ago--- I'm 46 and 100% Napolitano Italian! The shame 😆🤣...), but that was obv my fav scene and I really looked into that one, how they make the plan, the actual restaurant (and the personal satisfaction of buckin that cop haha)
Well, yeah, actually it really IS that bad.
I actually rewatched all three movies last week. And part I is NOT perfect by any stretch of the imagination. It has severe pacing issues pretty much from when Michael leaves the country up to his return. It also jumps ahead in time without any real sense of said time having elapsed.
Part II is better paced for sure but had its own problems, mainly the back and forth between Vito's backstory and Michael's ongoing story. The thing is that Michael's story in part II is just not that interesting. Had it not been for the all the flashbacks with De Niro as young Vito part II would just be dull.
Part III isn't perfect either. However, it is very well paced and the story is actually engaging from start to finish. In my book, part III is on par with parts I and II. And I would rank all of them a solid 4/5.
Thank you for all your hard work. Watching three cuts of the same movie for a total of nine hours is dedication. :)
Shoutouts to the team as well, done a crazy job on em
No way he did.
The thumbnail picture had my dying with laughter 😂😂😂
I watched all three the same day because I bought the DVD Boxset and I loved all three. I will never just watch a single The Godfather movie , I have to watch all three! Part Three is not a bad movie when in context of the whole trilogy, but if it were its own thing and not related to the Godfather trilogy I would have forgotten about it 😅
For me the first two were about consequences from living a life and those affected by it. The third felt like it was about forgiveness and redemption despite the events with their daughter it felt like the movie wanted me to be sorry for Michael or even Kay and for me it fell flat and undermined the first two movies. His long life dying alone was his punishment and the first two movies set that up perfectly, it’s a shame the third one doesn’t respect that.
I used your closing line in my stream yesterday. I won't make it a habit, but I do love what you say
Great job with the videos man. I donno if its just you doing all the editing and research or if you have a whole production team.
Heavy breakdowns
Most channels like this begin with one person but once they become super popular and start making money they eventually hire an editor to do the tedious work.
34:42 “D’ Dear Me!” 🤣
You guys are nuts. It's a really good movie. Just not as good as the first 2, which are 2 of the best films of all time.
Not sure why you're so defensive since almost every comment said the same thing you did, lol
Smashing that 👍🏽 for the work this man put in!
Every one of your videos I end up liking and unliking it several times. This is because I instinctly hit the like button every time I hear a good point or laugh and I accidentally unlike the video in my excitement. You'll always get multiple views from my adhd ass in making sure you get your props!
Without seeing the video (I typically agree with your view points), its more of 'What could of been' as opposed to 'What did they do'
The film is a solid one. I never watch the first two films without watching the third. I don't skip it. Here are my scores for the trilogy:
The Godfather: 10/10
The Godfather, Part II: 9/10
The Godfather, Part III: 8/10
For me this is my favorite of the three movies. All are great but if I have to choose one I will choose the third one as my favorite.
It's a decent movie and I wouldn't call it a disaster by any means. It had more to live up to than any other movie ever made and suffered some pretty unfair criticism because of that. 1&2 are solid 10/10 movies. I'd give 3 a 7/10.
It was a best picture nominee. Let that sink in.
See Paul, just when I don't I was out you pull me back in with this trilogies breakdown
There’s a good story in this movie. But, the lackluster acting and lack of Robert Duvall really affect this film.
excelente video
Not to nitpick or anything, but the puppet show. Yup. Remember Don Fanuci seeing it (GF 1) and saying "That's too violent for me!" The crowd laughing. On his way home to his fate during the festival. (A big nit to miss, so I had to pick it🥺)
My neighbors spell Mancini the same and say MAN SEE NEE. PLUS MY HUSBAND IS SICILIAN AND THATS HOW ITS SAID !!!
So again YOU'RE WRONG 😮
We can all agree Andy Garcia performance is great.
Love how rich people claim bankruptcy just to get richer.
I’m sorry but I liked the third movie . Andy Garcia was wonderful as Vincent and I loved that Connie finally started to speak her mind
The way Sophia died was like comical. She’s standing there with a bullet wound blast on her front, with blood all over, and only when she looks down does she ‘realise’ she should be dead from the wound, and so she dies. It’s ridiculous, and I wonder why no one ever mentions this.
It’s like a looney tunes death, and all the emotional anguish that’s supposed to come from Al Pacino is completely ruined.
It happens my friend was shot twice right next to me and didn't even know until we saw the smoke coming out of his jacket only then he realized he was hit thank God he lived so yeah it's possible
@@almauerhan7091 hmm I’m not calling you a lier but I can’t just accept what you just said as truth
@@RichieW90210 Sounds like you've never served in combat. Why should you, when other people are willing to risk dying in your place so that you can deny that they've ever been shot from the safety of your home?
@@erwinquiachon8054 I was gonna say were you in the army? So did you have armoured vests on?
Sophia copolla was wearing a gown. And it was a fatal wound. No offence, your friend wasnt hit by a fatal wound.
I’m trying to be nice and not call you a lier, in the nicest possible way.
Perfect timing my man!
Hows The Wickerman breakdown coming along? Also you're doing a great job man lots of great info 👍
Got my notes for all the different versions done so just gotta compile em
LOL! Your thumbnail! For a FRACTION of second, it looked like Al Pacino was playing Mr. Rogers!
just to ask how coem u revied the og verison and not tht nw cut? we all know wot we think of the og verison. would have been way better with your break downs for the newer cut of gfather3. awesome and thnaks frm UK
It has some of the greatest individual scenes in the whole trilogy, Kay meeting Michael in the hospital got me teary eyed
Michael says “the sucker I get the wiser I become, when I’m dead I’m going to be a really smart man” it all goes full circle in the last scene
There's this great mini- documentary on Sofia Coppela that I recommend because it goes into the real meaning behind this film. Francis's son had recently passed away and when Winona Rider wasn't able to be in the film Francis insisted on Sofia even though she really didn't want to do it. She would cry, and beg him but he just wanted to keep his family close. It's really sad and puts this movie into a different perspective.... nevermind you mentioned it at the end of the video, and the BekindRewind video.
I wonder how poor little Sofia recovered from the humiliation of this complete disaster?
Sofia Coppella was the little girl bothering Matt Dillion (Dallas) in The Outsiders....I think that was her first speaking role....so it wasn't the first time
I actually loved the movie
Thanks buddy
No lie this makes me wanna watch the film all over again
The incest is a reference to the Oedipal complex of King Lear. Lear's daughters married men who were like their father. Coppola's grandparents were first cousins, yet they produced healthy, hyper talented children and grandchildren who thrive today, while the Corleones failed miserably. That's why Coppola chose Sofia to represent both the Corleones and Coppolas, as a comparison of the two families. Sofia's real life success proves that her selection for that role was brilliantly correct. Part 3 was Coppolas best writing of all three films because it was ahead of its time. Coppola never wanted to be associated with the racist stereotypes of the mafia. He made that very clear in Part 3 by casting Sofia. Sofia dies in the film by the sins of the Corleones, but she continues to thrive in real life by the virtues of the Coppolas. Many people are only now starting to realize how smart Coppola's decisions in Part 3 are today.
Is this “best writing” in the room with us now?
@@nickm8874 The Godfather movies are the most misinterpreted films in the history of cinema. Coppola never wanted to make another stupid mafia movie. From the start, he was making the Godfather films as modern versions of King Lear as his own creative way to keep from throwing up while making a gangster movie. The people who misinterpret the Godfather films are the same people who don't understand King Lear. Part 3 grows in popularity in film schools as a brilliant modern version of King Lear. It's idiotic to compare Part 3 to Goodfellas when it should be compared to King Lear. Goodfellas is a very simple form of entertainment. Part 3 is a complex work of art that is modeled after one of the greatest works of art, King Lear.
how do you make the king lear?
😂 Fuck king leer and fuck your film school interpretation. His casting was last minute nepotism. People looking for excuses in any form.
@@ExecutionStyleInc You sound like the kid who flunked out of Shakespeare class. Your opinion is worthless because Shakespeare, especially King Lear over the last 400 years, has proven to be highly reliable in explaining and predicting human behavior in the succession of power in both fiction and real life. He is more than just an elite writer.
Joe Mantange makes it worth a watch. Great performance and character
another cracking review .
When I watch the first part I always have to watch all 3. The third is the worst but there are moments I always look forward to seeing that help bring it all full circle, Talia Shires performance being my fav part of that.
41:45 woah woah. I always thought Michael was so distressed that he just couldn’t get the sound of his wail out at first. Drowned out by the music?
Great video. I'm a big godfather fan. Tom hagar was missed in the third entry. The cousin story line should been cut out in my opinion. Where was Connie's kids and sonny's other kids
I love the slow, yet extreme shift the "theory time" announcement has made over the last few years
Sorry to say you're mispronouncing Mantegna. The gn sounds like a yn. So it sounds like "Mon-ten-ya."
If it's any consolation, I once mispronounced Baja without changing the "j" to sound like a "h," which amused my American coworkers to no end. In Canada, we learn French; not Spanish. Oh well.
It was 1978 when Paul VI and John Paul I died, not 1979. I never understood why the movie got this wrong.
The coda version really improves things - great video as ever 👍😎
Thank you
Why casting can make or break a film. Had Winona Ryder played Michael’s daughter instead of Coppola, it would’ve been immensely better. Replacing Duvall’s character with a similar one played by George Hamilton, was also a monumental mistake by Paramount.
Buzz, your girlfriend, WOOF!
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I can't see tom Hagan being an informat
@38:38 The longer you stare at this newspaper article, the more jank it gets.
19:53 is that the Shah of Iran on the right?
Before did twenty f***ing years in the can!
22:45 “if Michael pulled some strings” see what ya did there!
I thought that GF3 was Ok. What killed it was being compared to the two masterpieces that were the Godfather I & 11.
😊 the helicopter scene was badass
Duvall hates the film. Check out the 45th anniversary reunion. He does not hold back
Here’s a better premise. Michael doubled down, his reach grew larger and Anthony became a politician. Michael gets investigated for his ties to the costanostra and Anthony goes against him the entire film, until the end and we find out they were planning something together all the while 😊
Michael died when his daughter died
he was ultimately broken.
The regrets of his life came to the fore
at this moment
Duuude I miss your battles 😔 how come they're being removed from TH-cam? ☺ Good to see you're doing great though ☺
I know theres a couple people that will use em as a way to jump on me so just easier having the peace of mind, they will go back up eventually just want some distance from em, I'm actually sponsoring the next DF event as a thanks to Eurgh for being cool about it so i've still got some connection
@@heavyspoilers genuinely wasn't expecting a reply, I'd say you weren't expecting a comment like this either 😂 aww I was enjoying watching them 😔 man you're a beast! 💪
Orange 🍊 is the only color that breaks down to the number 33 in numerology, which is associated with the 1/3 fallen angels and (supposedly influenced by this) the highest *known* (honorary) degree in the Freemasons. If that's the connection or not, I don't know. But it's at least worth mentioning, considering the association with fallen beings and people (as connected to Lucifer). It's very esoteric but something Coppola and others involved with the writing would be familiar with due, at minimum, to intensive attention to detail.
Would
Starting to think there is a pattern with Coppola and tough productions
Love her. ❤️
The woman didn't think to call the police after some man showed up on her porch with a knife?? Come on now, common sense
Do casino ma dude
Getting in trouble from lawyers is a big deal. lol
With the first film he was setting Al Pacino up as Marlon Brando's successor which was fair enough. With the third was he implying Andy Garcia was the new Al Pacino? No disrespect to Andy Garcia but that's kind of dumb.
Well done for 9 hours of this movie, only parts 1 & 2 were necessary and part 3 was a director’s indulgence.
Joe Mantegna (man-TEYN-ya). In Italian, the "-gn-" digraph is pronounced "-ny-" as in "lasagna" or "Bologna".
My brother saw this in the theater after loving the first two and he said it was like being kicked in the head. 😂
Idk why my dad really loves godfather 3 for some reasone
It actually works better that the hit on Michael is unsuccessful and he's left alone again. It's a good parallel to Part 2.
At 46 seconds, that is one hilarious meme!
I’ve watched Part I & II more than any other movie. I just feel the cinematography & dialogue in Part III are clunky.
So clunky I just can’t get past the drop in quality no matter how much I try. This is partly down to the drop in standard is noticeable in practically every shot from when the party starts in Part III.
I just felt like I was watching a TV drama.
This is my opinion of course, and I’m happy for others who loved the movie.
Paul, when do you make a analysis about "Ounce upon a time in America" ???
The third one wasn’t horrible, but it could have been better. It just couldn’t hold a candle to the first two.
Look I like your channel. I can get behind most of your points, but you've crossed a line now...
You didn't title this video "Ending Breakdown". What a travesty.
When you look at it on its own, it is a good movie, but you are comparing it to 1 and 2
Lets hear it for Enzo the baker!
tl;dr
If the first two films hadn’t been so great, this one wouldn’t have been so pilloried.
And if this had been the first film, there wouldn’t have been two more.