This has gotten to the point where the regular view people have of this band is seemingly more obsure and unbelievable with each info drop. Great presentation. Thank you.
Brilliant video. You told a thorough linear story of these events. Excited to check out more of your content. Mike promoted this video in a comment. Simply wonderful!
I see Brian as a "tragic character" in all of this, I always have. He was likely the only one involved who had The Boy's best interests at heart and he obviously saw their potential, why else would he have spent so much of his own money nurturing them? Brian got ground up in the cogs of the Beatles "machine". Thanks for another fine presentation. Cheers
You're right. It's sad. He may have had the vision of what we wanted of the Beatles. Then it was stolen from him. Like all players only the very top know what's going on.
Fantastic, as ever. I started listening to you whilst at the exact same time on French TV a documentary about Brian Epstein and the Beatles came on (Chaîne Arte, I think). No change from the standard story. My wife and I had a great chat later on walking the dogs.
Man, this is everything i wanted to know so long ago but could not have appreciated as i was under The Spell. Glad to hear it now without looking through rose colored glasses.
Great research, thank you. I love the last line of that Lennon reference at the end to Brian Epstein: "Anyway, he isn't really dead". Even in 1967 the reality of life in our matrix was clear to at least one of the Beatles.
Another great production - so interesting. As a side note I never knew HMV was originally owned by EMI and stood for "His Masters Voice"! Sounds like MK Ultra at its finest..
[01:28:01] "...Anyway, he isn't really dead" - John I wonder what he really meant by that... Thanks for the new video Kat. Very informative and entertaining. Cheers.
What a great video ,clearly and comprehensively related, not too fast, and impeccably researched. I was gripped from beginning to end. I lived this era and I remember that winter.
Thanks for your unique and refreshingly original commentary on the greatest and most amazing popular music phenomenon of the twentieth century. Your work has a district sense of ringing true. The more I discover about the Beatles the more amazed I become. The surrealness and bizarreness seems never ending . it appears to come in waves , every ten or fifteen years a new set of previously unknown information emerges and re - enchants fans like me. And then there's the music itself which is as fresh and original today as it was when I heard it first in 1968. Please keep up your good work. Thanks again.
Really fantastic. It would be marvellous if you could continue with the rest of the Beatles story in the same vein. Would you please list a bibliography. Enormous respect . A great documentary x
I always read a lot around any subject I cover, but for this video, I particularly used Mark Lewisohn's books, "In Tune", and "the complete Beatles chronicle". Debbie Geller's "the Brian Epstein story" was also a great source for quotations, since most of the book is transcribed interviews and sections of Brian's diaries. There's also an online archive of "Disc", which was useful, plus Billy Harry's own website. I also watched a lot of old archived interviews of Brian, and several TV documentaries about him, which I found here on TH-cam.
So well done Cat! I was surprised that Brian actually liked band members as people. Versus just an attraction to John. I've read that the Krays wanted to be the Beatles manager after Paul died and Brian flatly refused which was one possible reason he was offed? It does show what I have always observed about stories, even JFK's. Stories are nuanced & going to different sources is a must. Often no one has the whole story. I was very surprised that someone wanted to buy the publishing rights to their songs early on. Thanks for allowing for nuance. Oh and showing that snow storm pic reminds me of NY right now, 18ºF or -7.777 ºC. 😵 I can barley think! 😂
The Krays did want to manage the band, but had it pointed out to them that the Beatles clean cut image that made them popular would be ruined if they did. So they settled for blackmailing Brian for cash instead! The stories behind those early songs are fascinating. I could have said a lot more but I didn't. Maybe I use that information for another video. NY gets proper weather! Stay warm, my friend!
Amazing, so good it should be made widely available. In your opinion is Billy sick of the whole charade and he’d love to retire whilst he can. Or do you think he still revels in it all, enjoying pulling the wool over peoples eyes ?
In the last edition of the Memoirs of Billy Shears, Billy says that he'd rather spend time with his grandchildren than make McCartney appearances. At 86 years old, that seems perfectly plausible. Thanks for your kind words about my work!
G. Martin's comment of disregard for the rest of the country's provinces sounds very much like the mindset of the London bubble to me. When I spent more than a decade living there I regarded anywhere outside of central London as being "the sticks" basically. It was partly the arrogance of youth, too, I suppose. (Ironically, nowadays, I look at London in the news with absolute horror, seeing the direction it's heading in.)
Thank you! That's high praise. I wish there were more northern voices talking about this psyop. I often wonder how many folk from Liverpool know the truth about the Beatles?
@supernaturalbeatles l am from Manchester and know some lovely scousers .Thinking about it the personality of the beatles comprising of John Paul George and Ringo are a good representation of Liverpool people funny witty warm outspoken very very likable. Not many of them, (not counting being in the music industry) can not see it .I show people photos of Billy then Paul they agree it's a different person but once I mention the truth they make excuses .He's older his hairs different etc .I am considered as someone that believes any old rubbish .I do believe that the truth will come out but will anyone be left that even cares .I hope so 🤪
Thanks for your reply. It's wonderful that at least they notice the difference between Paul and Billy, but it's sad that cognitive dissonance gets in the way of them really understanding the truth. If the Beatles hadn't been warm and witty, I doubt they could have made it big, even with a ton of money and and all that spin backing them up.
The expression robbing Peter to pay Paul. Its biblical. Pete best was robbed of his place cos Paul diddnt like all the attention he was getting. There's loads of biblical connections if you know the scriptures . Deeper holes to go. Haha
Thank you for all the detailed research and presentation. Here's a few suggested song titles about the Beatles: One Eyed Beatle, Ghostwriters, PM=BS, Good Bye Abbey Road, Plastic Soul, Liverpool Lads, Sign Them George, Decca Dance, etc.
"Ghostwriter", written by Patrick Mckenzie. He was supposedly the lead ghostwriter for the Beatles. It's performed by his grandson's band, Famous Groupies: th-cam.com/video/Zb22sKYChEk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=9q9qDTGHMwRjrQ_s
Paul being late for the meeting while having a bath makes me think of that White Album photo of Billy in the bath using bubble-bath to symbolise Paul's deadness; or his 'late'ness. (The late James Paul McCartney.)
Interesting video. Do you have any thoughts on Brian's death? Was it an accident, suicide - or something more sinister ? Were the people behind Paul's death worried that Brian was about to tell all ?
Throughly enjoyed your video, fantastic. Have you ever seen the channel, Ginger Is Here ? Some very interesting videos including Williams genealogy. I know you’ve also covered that very subject and I found it all very revealing.
Unpopular perspective: I think the 'tortured homosexual' card is often overplayed or exaggerated. The Gay Mafia of the 60s included many record producers, agents, DJs as well as the Krays and numerous key politicians. Homosexuality was technically illegal but the law was in place largely to outlaw 'cottaging' in public toilets, there wasn't a dedicated 'anti-homosexuality' squad in the police or CPS. Furthermore, in the public schools Epstein attended, homosexual activities were rife, possibly the 'norm' regardless of whether the participants considered themselves as 'gay' or 'straight'. Brian was a privileged 'insider' and the sticky end he came to not withstanding, we shouldn't feel too sorry for him-he was decadent, a gambler and no doubt promiscuous as is the norm in gay culture. He comes across as superior, smug and possibly quite narcissistic in interviews.
Mickey Dolense of the Monkees said that when they went through their insisting that they actually play the music, it would take them at least 30 + attempts. But he went on stating, "How ridiculous because The Wrecking Crew could do it in 3." The funny thing is though I used to feel exactly the other way around I now feel less ripped off if I hear a Monkees song I feel less ripped off than I do the Beatles. Revolver was my favorite album not quite Sgt Peppers but not quite I Wanna Hold your Hand either
Liked the White Album except Number 9 Best screamer Ono it's Yoko Best tambourine player ever Linda McCartney They should have gone on the road together...lol
This is phenomenal. As a musician and an awakened person for over a decade now getting all of this information in detail has been helpful and always heartbreaking even though I know. All of the information about what happened to Paul was extremely distressing for me because that's the part that I didn't know fully until looking at your work and that of The sage of quay channel. I have to say I was born 3 years after he was killed. So Billy was the one playing on the radio when I was a small child except for the early records. And I always like the early records more and I really couldn't figure out why. Plus I didn't like the Billy imposter character I remember they would say oh Paul was the cute one and I'd see those early pictures and agree he was very cute. But then I would hear live and let die and band on the run and other things that were charting as I was growing up and I didn't like them and I didn't like him and I thought there was something really wrong about him when I saw him interviewed or in a music video or something and then that whole thing he did with Michael Jackson was just gross. Really bad music but by then I had already become a goth. And rejected the mainstream entirely. But hearing all these stories woven together and The incredible research that you've done has really helped me understand what my intuition was telling me. And I do think it's interesting how you trusted your own intuition as a child when you saw the first real biological Paul and then was dismayed and confused by The imposter.😢
Speaking of accents, young lady, I love yours. May I ask, what was the reason (or reasons, plural) that Pete was sacked? (Or tricked into thinking he was sacked, if that's the case.)
Pete was more popular with the girls than Paul. Paul was always destined to be the cute Beatle, so Pete was standing in his way. Pete was also a loner and never wanted to join in with their post-gig antics. Ringo was more gregarious and suited the fun-loving image of the Beatles. Despite the official line saying that he left after an amicable agreement, Pete was actually kicked out. Everyone involved was gutless though, and they got Brian to do the dirty job of telling him. Pete got so depressed afterwards, that was he suicidal. He tried to gas himself in his kitchen, but was rescued by his mother and brother. Thankfully he recovered from that depression. He was paid a "seven figure sum" when 5 songs from the Decca Demo were featured in the Beatles Anthology 1 album in the mid 90s, so at least he eventually made some money out of being the original drummer for the Beatles.
Ringo was a slightly better drummer. Once they started recording at EMI, they still had to hire the professional drummer, Andy White. As Bernard Purdie said, "there are four drummers on the Beatles music. Ringo is not one of them."
@@supernaturalbeatles But what about the 3 drummers who were offered Pete's job ahead of Ringo. Bobby Graham, Ritchie Galvin, and Johnny "Hutch" Hutchinson. They turned it down because, as Hutch said, *"I won't do the dirty on Pete".* Ann Upton, Ritchie Galvin's girlfriend, said, *"Brian Epstein and Bob Wooler came to visit Ritchie and offered him The Beatles' drummer job. Ritchie said no because he didn't think Pete should be replaced. I was shocked when they chose Ringo, as he was short, thin and weedy, and had a joke of a moustache. He always looked like he needed a good scrub."* If Ringo was meant to be the drummer, why did George Harrison have to fight so hard to get him into the band, and only succeeded because those other 3 drummers turned it down?
@@supernaturalbeatles They didn't hire White instead of Ringo. Martin had booked White because he thought Best was still their drummer. And to be polite if you really believe the BS Purdie is saying I guess you're not a musician yourself. I recommend reading "Finding The Fourth Beatle: The 23 drummers who put the beat behind the Fab Three" by David Bedford and Garry Popper.
Billy Hatton would not have been being literal but exaggerating for comic effect. The Beatles were capable of learning 14 or more songs in a day if they had to. They were already old hands by this time and learning something as simple as Please Mr Postman would have only taken them a run through once they had the key.
You're putting words in other people's mouths. Billy Hatton wasn't joking. I took that quote from a serious interview. If you think the Beatles really were that capable as musicians, you're going to have to explain this: when they toured after the release of "Revolver", they NEVER played ANY songs from that album live in concert. In fact, they were still almost solely playing songs from their early albums right up until they quit touring altogether. They didn't play anything from an album that they were promoting, which they had only just finished recording. Why did they do that? Because they never learned to play those songs and weren't expected to. They used session musicians play on that album. The Beatles were not unique in this. In the 60s and 70s, it was common industry practice to have session musicians playing on albums, whilst the people on the front cover of those albums just provided the vocals. Go watch "the Wrecking Crew" documentary if you don't believe me.
What songs would they play from Revolver? Rigby ? Not likely, yellow submarine? . Songs. How would they play all that back would guitar solos,strings, ,drum loops ? . I would say impossible in those days. They did play paper back writer recorded in same sessions. As for only playing old songs they played songs from rubber soul and help.
Very interesting presentation. Although you used the phrase "Beatle Psy-op" a number of times, it seems to me that in a way you unintentionally undermined the "psy-op" story in favor of something involving a fair amount of serendipity and organic elements. Without their being a labor of love to Brian Epstein The Beatles would never have gotten out of the basement club scene. That they were given to George Martin as perhaps punishment for his wayward behavior is not only a delicious detail but also quite telling. Maybe it was less Adorno and Tavistock and more George Martin out to show his boss up a bit by doing too good of a job with "The Beatles" account and creating a monster!
I do believe in the psyop, but I also believe that even the best laid plans go wrong or detour. I think Brian's interference was not part of the plan, but it was woven into it. At first, it became a wonderful cover story for the Beatles overnight success. Later on though, the Beatles early rejections from multiple record companies only hurt their image as the best band in the world. The controllers of this psyop made use of Brian, as they did with the Beatles. In that sense, he really was the 5th Beatle!
This has gotten to the point where the regular view people have of this band is seemingly more obsure and unbelievable with each info drop. Great presentation. Thank you.
As a lifelong Beatles fan I find their 'early days', particularly the 60' - 63' period the most fascinating.
Thank the Gods for this woman, and her pleasant soothing voice. I sooo needed this right now.
LOL, thank you! ❤
Yea she’s great .
@@ricardojimenez8351 ????
Superb presentation Cat! The official narrative is definitely a composite of the truth and fairy tale.
10% truth...
Well... all of your many hours and sifting through slides and research have paid off!
You've done a brilliant job, Cat!
Brilliant video. You told a thorough linear story of these events. Excited to check out more of your content. Mike promoted this video in a comment. Simply wonderful!
Well researched and entertaining. Thanks Kat.
I see Brian as a "tragic character" in all of this, I always have. He was likely the only one involved who had The Boy's best interests at heart and he obviously saw their potential, why else would he have spent so much of his own money nurturing them? Brian got ground up in the cogs of the Beatles "machine".
Thanks for another fine presentation.
Cheers
You're right. It's sad. He may have had the vision of what we wanted of the Beatles. Then it was stolen from him. Like all players only the very top know what's going on.
Wonderfully researched and very interesting. Thanks for your hard work. ❤
Very good research. I've never seen photos of Brian Epstien in the army. Great stuff!
Thank you Cat, you are wonderful!
Fantastic, as ever.
I started listening to you whilst at the exact same time on French TV a documentary about Brian Epstein and the Beatles came on (Chaîne Arte, I think).
No change from the standard story.
My wife and I had a great chat later on walking the dogs.
Man, this is everything i wanted to know so long ago but could not have appreciated as i was under The Spell. Glad to hear it now without looking through rose colored glasses.
Great research, thank you.
I love the last line of that Lennon reference at the end to Brian Epstein: "Anyway, he isn't really dead".
Even in 1967 the reality of life in our matrix was clear to at least one of the Beatles.
Astoundingly accurate and interesting as always.
God Bless Brian Epstein. He knew what he was hearing & feeling. He gave the world The Beatles. Wouldn't have been the same without him.
Another great production - so interesting. As a side note I never knew HMV was originally owned by EMI and stood for "His Masters Voice"! Sounds like MK Ultra at its finest..
The HMV logo is Nipper the dog listening to his master's voice on a gramophone. But, yes, the phrase, "his master's voice" is quite creepy too!
@@supernaturalbeatles I've always loved that dog and the logo.
could not be more excited to see this today! so grateful for your work 🧡☺️
Cat...that was absolutely fantastic! Brava! I learned so much. 😊🎵🎶🎵👍🎯
[01:28:01] "...Anyway, he isn't really dead" - John
I wonder what he really meant by that...
Thanks for the new video Kat. Very informative and entertaining. Cheers.
What a great video ,clearly and comprehensively related, not too fast, and impeccably researched. I was gripped from beginning to end. I lived this era and I remember that winter.
Great research, enjoyed the excellent work thank you very much
Another fantastic presentation!! Very interesting indeed. Well done!!
An interesting addition to Beatles lore, thanks!
Amazing research! Thank you
Great doc any more like this, many facts i never knew
Superb!
Your brilliant . What a rabbit hole
Thanks for your unique and refreshingly original commentary on the greatest and most amazing popular music phenomenon of the twentieth century. Your work has a district sense of ringing true. The more I discover about the Beatles the more amazed I become. The surrealness and bizarreness seems never ending . it appears to come in waves , every ten or fifteen years a new set of previously unknown information emerges and re - enchants fans like me. And then there's the music itself which is as fresh and original today as it was when I heard it first in 1968. Please keep up your good work. Thanks again.
,Look at Jim McCartney's right eyebrow. Same high arch.
Really fantastic. It would be marvellous if you could continue with the rest of the Beatles story in the same vein. Would you please list a bibliography. Enormous respect . A great documentary x
I always read a lot around any subject I cover, but for this video, I particularly used Mark Lewisohn's books, "In Tune", and "the complete Beatles chronicle". Debbie Geller's "the Brian Epstein story" was also a great source for quotations, since most of the book is transcribed interviews and sections of Brian's diaries. There's also an online archive of "Disc", which was useful, plus Billy Harry's own website. I also watched a lot of old archived interviews of Brian, and several TV documentaries about him, which I found here on TH-cam.
@@supernaturalbeatles Thank you for getting back ( no pun intended!) . I’ll get my copies now
So well done Cat! I was surprised that Brian actually liked band members as people. Versus just an attraction to John. I've read that the Krays wanted to be the Beatles manager after Paul died and Brian flatly refused which was one possible reason he was offed? It does show what I have always observed about stories, even JFK's. Stories are nuanced & going to different sources is a must. Often no one has the whole story. I was very surprised that someone wanted to buy the publishing rights to their songs early on. Thanks for allowing for nuance. Oh and showing that snow storm pic reminds me of NY right now, 18ºF or -7.777 ºC. 😵 I can barley think! 😂
The Krays did want to manage the band, but had it pointed out to them that the Beatles clean cut image that made them popular would be ruined if they did. So they settled for blackmailing Brian for cash instead! The stories behind those early songs are fascinating. I could have said a lot more but I didn't. Maybe I use that information for another video. NY gets proper weather! Stay warm, my friend!
Ah I heard about the the blackmail... 🌨☃I shall try bud@@supernaturalbeatles
Amazing, so good it should be made widely available. In your opinion is Billy sick of the whole charade and he’d love to retire whilst he can. Or do you think he still revels in it all, enjoying pulling the wool over peoples eyes ?
In the last edition of the Memoirs of Billy Shears, Billy says that he'd rather spend time with his grandchildren than make McCartney appearances. At 86 years old, that seems perfectly plausible. Thanks for your kind words about my work!
@cushyglen4264
Probably. Haven't they all?
Didn’t Epstein pay the girls to scream at several of the first appearances in America?
Thank you for the history of the boys.brain was the driving force.beatlle matt 90801
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G. Martin's comment of disregard for the rest of the country's provinces sounds very much like the mindset of the London bubble to me. When I spent more than a decade living there I regarded anywhere outside of central London as being "the sticks" basically. It was partly the arrogance of youth, too, I suppose. (Ironically, nowadays, I look at London in the news with absolute horror, seeing the direction it's heading in.)
Excellence on every level.
Really enjoyed this you're so good at what you do and could listen to your voice for hours as they say here up north it was a proper belter 😂❤
Thank you! That's high praise. I wish there were more northern voices talking about this psyop. I often wonder how many folk from Liverpool know the truth about the Beatles?
@supernaturalbeatles l am from Manchester and know some lovely scousers .Thinking about it the personality of the beatles comprising of John Paul George and Ringo are a good representation of Liverpool people funny witty warm outspoken very very likable. Not many of them, (not counting being in the music industry) can not see it .I show people photos of Billy then Paul they agree it's a different person but once I mention the truth they make excuses .He's older his hairs different etc .I am considered as someone that believes any old rubbish .I do believe that the truth will come out but will anyone be left that even cares .I hope so 🤪
Thanks for your reply. It's wonderful that at least they notice the difference between Paul and Billy, but it's sad that cognitive dissonance gets in the way of them really understanding the truth. If the Beatles hadn't been warm and witty, I doubt they could have made it big, even with a ton of money and and all that spin backing them up.
The expression robbing Peter to pay Paul. Its biblical. Pete best was robbed of his place cos Paul diddnt like all the attention he was getting. There's loads of biblical connections if you know the scriptures . Deeper holes to go. Haha
Neil Aspinal took the cake when he made Mona Best pregnant!
The rogue conceived a Roag.
Aspinall
Thank you for all the detailed research and presentation. Here's a few suggested song titles about the Beatles: One Eyed Beatle, Ghostwriters, PM=BS, Good Bye Abbey Road, Plastic Soul, Liverpool Lads, Sign Them George, Decca Dance, etc.
"Ghostwriter", written by Patrick Mckenzie. He was supposedly the lead ghostwriter for the Beatles. It's performed by his grandson's band, Famous Groupies: th-cam.com/video/Zb22sKYChEk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=9q9qDTGHMwRjrQ_s
Paul being late for the meeting while having a bath makes me think of that White Album photo of Billy in the bath using bubble-bath to symbolise Paul's deadness; or his 'late'ness. (The late James Paul McCartney.)
That's an interesting connection!
Interesting video. Do you have any thoughts on Brian's death? Was it an accident, suicide - or something more sinister ? Were the people behind Paul's death worried that Brian was about to tell all ?
Great question. I would love a deep dive into this.
Lionel Bart in the centre 19:07
Throughly enjoyed your video, fantastic. Have you ever seen the channel, Ginger Is Here ? Some very interesting videos including Williams genealogy. I know you’ve also covered that very subject and I found it all very revealing.
1:07:45 Instead of referring to Elvis, Brian should have told Decca execs, "The Beatles will be bigger than Jesus."
He would not be wrong.
He would be wrong!
@@MsDormy Of course he'd be wrong but I was only kidding anyway.
Brian had his passport stolen in London (perhaps by a lover?) as he was meant to stay in London.
Unpopular perspective: I think the 'tortured homosexual' card is often overplayed or exaggerated. The Gay Mafia of the 60s included many record producers, agents, DJs as well as the Krays and numerous key politicians. Homosexuality was technically illegal but the law was in place largely to outlaw 'cottaging' in public toilets, there wasn't a dedicated 'anti-homosexuality' squad in the police or CPS. Furthermore, in the public schools Epstein attended, homosexual activities were rife, possibly the 'norm' regardless of whether the participants considered themselves as 'gay' or 'straight'. Brian was a privileged 'insider' and the sticky end he came to not withstanding, we shouldn't feel too sorry for him-he was decadent, a gambler and no doubt promiscuous as is the norm in gay culture. He comes across as superior, smug and possibly quite narcissistic in interviews.
Mickey Dolense of the Monkees said that when they went through their insisting that they actually play the music, it would take them at least 30 + attempts. But he went on stating, "How ridiculous because The Wrecking Crew could do it in 3."
The funny thing is though I used to feel exactly the other way around I now feel less ripped off if I hear a Monkees song I feel less ripped off than I do the Beatles. Revolver was my favorite album not quite Sgt Peppers but not quite I Wanna Hold your Hand either
Liked the White Album except Number 9
Best screamer Ono it's Yoko
Best tambourine player ever Linda McCartney
They should have gone on the road together...lol
"Dolense"?
This is phenomenal. As a musician and an awakened person for over a decade now getting all of this information in detail has been helpful and always heartbreaking even though I know. All of the information about what happened to Paul was extremely distressing for me because that's the part that I didn't know fully until looking at your work and that of The sage of quay channel. I have to say I was born 3 years after he was killed. So Billy was the one playing on the radio when I was a small child except for the early records. And I always like the early records more and I really couldn't figure out why. Plus I didn't like the Billy imposter character I remember they would say oh Paul was the cute one and I'd see those early pictures and agree he was very cute. But then I would hear live and let die and band on the run and other things that were charting as I was growing up and I didn't like them and I didn't like him and I thought there was something really wrong about him when I saw him interviewed or in a music video or something and then that whole thing he did with Michael Jackson was just gross. Really bad music but by then I had already become a goth. And rejected the mainstream entirely. But hearing all these stories woven together and The incredible research that you've done has really helped me understand what my intuition was telling me. And I do think it's interesting how you trusted your own intuition as a child when you saw the first real biological Paul and then was dismayed and confused by The imposter.😢
@heatherlane5327 do you know about Dave McGowan's work on Laurel Canyon? If not his research is at this level too.
Speaking of accents, young lady, I love yours. May I ask, what was the reason (or reasons, plural) that Pete was sacked? (Or tricked into thinking he was sacked, if that's the case.)
Pete was more popular with the girls than Paul. Paul was always destined to be the cute Beatle, so Pete was standing in his way. Pete was also a loner and never wanted to join in with their post-gig antics. Ringo was more gregarious and suited the fun-loving image of the Beatles. Despite the official line saying that he left after an amicable agreement, Pete was actually kicked out. Everyone involved was gutless though, and they got Brian to do the dirty job of telling him. Pete got so depressed afterwards, that was he suicidal. He tried to gas himself in his kitchen, but was rescued by his mother and brother. Thankfully he recovered from that depression. He was paid a "seven figure sum" when 5 songs from the Decca Demo were featured in the Beatles Anthology 1 album in the mid 90s, so at least he eventually made some money out of being the original drummer for the Beatles.
@@supernaturalbeatles You forgot to mention the most important thing: Ringo Starr was the far superior drummer.
Ringo was a slightly better drummer. Once they started recording at EMI, they still had to hire the professional drummer, Andy White. As Bernard Purdie said, "there are four drummers on the Beatles music. Ringo is not one of them."
@@supernaturalbeatles But what about the 3 drummers who were offered Pete's job ahead of Ringo. Bobby Graham, Ritchie Galvin, and Johnny "Hutch" Hutchinson. They turned it down because, as Hutch said, *"I won't do the dirty on Pete".* Ann Upton, Ritchie Galvin's girlfriend, said, *"Brian Epstein and Bob Wooler came to visit Ritchie and offered him The Beatles' drummer job. Ritchie said no because he didn't think Pete should be replaced. I was shocked when they chose Ringo, as he was short, thin and weedy, and had a joke of a moustache. He always looked like he needed a good scrub."* If Ringo was meant to be the drummer, why did George Harrison have to fight so hard to get him into the band, and only succeeded because those other 3 drummers turned it down?
@@supernaturalbeatles They didn't hire White instead of Ringo. Martin had booked White because he thought Best was still their drummer. And to be polite if you really believe the BS Purdie is saying I guess you're not a musician yourself. I recommend reading "Finding The Fourth Beatle: The 23 drummers who put the beat behind the Fab Three" by David Bedford and Garry Popper.
Wait up…isn’t the footage of The Beatles doing “Some Other Guy” filmed in 1961?
1962
Billy Hatton would not have been being literal but exaggerating for comic effect. The Beatles were capable of learning 14 or more songs in a day if they had to. They were already old hands by this time and learning something as simple as Please Mr Postman would have only taken them a run through once they had the key.
You're putting words in other people's mouths. Billy Hatton wasn't joking. I took that quote from a serious interview. If you think the Beatles really were that capable as musicians, you're going to have to explain this: when they toured after the release of "Revolver", they NEVER played ANY songs from that album live in concert. In fact, they were still almost solely playing songs from their early albums right up until they quit touring altogether. They didn't play anything from an album that they were promoting, which they had only just finished recording. Why did they do that? Because they never learned to play those songs and weren't expected to. They used session musicians play on that album. The Beatles were not unique in this. In the 60s and 70s, it was common industry practice to have session musicians playing on albums, whilst the people on the front cover of those albums just provided the vocals. Go watch "the Wrecking Crew" documentary if you don't believe me.
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What songs would they play from Revolver? Rigby ? Not likely, yellow submarine? . Songs. How would they play all that back would guitar solos,strings, ,drum loops ? . I would say impossible in those days. They did play paper back writer recorded in same sessions. As for only playing old songs they played songs from rubber soul and help.
Very interesting presentation. Although you used the phrase "Beatle Psy-op" a number of times, it seems to me that in a way you unintentionally undermined the "psy-op" story in favor of something involving a fair amount of serendipity and organic elements. Without their being a labor of love to Brian Epstein The Beatles would never have gotten out of the basement club scene. That they were given to George Martin as perhaps punishment for his wayward behavior is not only a delicious detail but also quite telling. Maybe it was less Adorno and Tavistock and more George Martin out to show his boss up a bit by doing too good of a job with "The Beatles" account and creating a monster!
I do believe in the psyop, but I also believe that even the best laid plans go wrong or detour. I think Brian's interference was not part of the plan, but it was woven into it. At first, it became a wonderful cover story for the Beatles overnight success. Later on though, the Beatles early rejections from multiple record companies only hurt their image as the best band in the world. The controllers of this psyop made use of Brian, as they did with the Beatles. In that sense, he really was the 5th Beatle!
Hi Kat…there is no other Voice that would better suit this material then yours…Fine informative clip…Thank You.
It's Cat not Kat, as I once learned.
@@claradiaz3147 My Bad...Thanks clara and Cat.