Funny story about a Chinook. I was working at the Picacho Mine in Imperial county California when a Marine Chinook lost one of its two turbines. It made an emergency landing at the historic grave yard. They had to sent the other Chinook to Riverside to get a spare turbine. They were really hoping to get it changed out before dark so they could get back to base before the next episode of Shogun. They made it.
Marine Chinook? At first I thought you'd seen CH-46 which is an understandable confusion, but Shogun is pretty recent and those are out of service. Sure it was Marine? Not a V-22/CH-53?
This was between 1980 and 1985 when I worked at that mine. Shogun was a miniseries based on the novel and did very well for the five or so days that it played. It was definitely a twin rotor. Isn't the CH-53 the single rotor Stallion? They didn't want to have to fly the other chopper to MCAS Yuma to get rifles, guard the chopper overnight and miss that night's episode of Shogun. This was before the internet and easy viewing later of something that had already played. They were flying an exercise in the Chocolate Mountain area and luckily Yuma had a spare engine so they could fly there, get it, install it, and get to Yuma to overnight there.
It used to be cool to watch them practice low level flying while I was drilling rock. Weird when one went down and STAYED down. They would sometimes land there because it was a flat LZ. I'm sure if had been a serious emergency they would have landed on the leach pad as it was much larger and flatter. I know my wife and I offered them a hot lunch if they wanted it.
@@superflyguy4488there were definitely occasions when the MERT pilots requested permission to leave the Ugly callsigns behind in order to get injured personnel back to Bastion quicker.
Actually a cool story.. The Helicopter speed record has stood since 1986.. Set by a modified factory demonstration Westland Lynx AH.1.. It reached an avrg speed over a 15km course of 400km/h .. Its a great demonstration of the physical limits a helicoptor runs into.. During the speed runs, the main rotor blade tips reached a speed of 0.97 Mach.
I recently got the Kiowa myself and was surprised at how slow such a light bird is. 120 knots already threatens you with retreating blade stall... and normal operation with loaded weapons is closer to 90 knots.
Great vid, as always. I live in the Seattle area. Your pronunciation of Chinook is so....charming. The long "O" in lieu of a "U". A shibboleth to tell if someone has been in the Pacific Northwest a long time is their pronunciation of many of the Native American based place names or items - Puyallup, Geoduck, Tulalip, Issaquah, Skookumchuck, Suiattle, Spokane and many more. A coworker who moved here after retiring from the USAF couldn't get Tukwila right even after several years. I'm sure if I ever moved to the NE I'd have a heck of a time with the Tribal based names there - sooooo different from here in the PNW. Ditto if I ever went to the UK, all the shires there..... Two peoples separated by a common language.
Fun video! I alway love these GR races and competitions. Have you ever done a helicopter version of carrier landings in different weather? FYI: The Chinook rhymes with look, not kook. And notice how it was rock steady through the whole race. A nice ride indeed.
Helicopters are one of those vehicle types that go against the whole smaller=faster idea. Especially when said helicopter(s) has two full sized rotors and no tail rotor
Really great drag race. A thought on doing a slightly different style is which heloicopter is the quickest from a dark state as in not being powered up, which helo can go from nothing powered on to crossing the finish line first. My thought of this comes from something I was told about the RAF in Afghan is in a medivac scenario the Chinook often when without the Apache escort as the Apache's took so long to start up.
@@markredacted8547 Cap may have to tone down the SAMs but, yea a fun watch....Plus, its difficult to fly those helicopters so, are there enough players to fly the copters?
Dear Sir or Madam, I wish to draw your attention to the Huey JAFFO who forgot to arm the Fortunate Son flight mode. This put the rest of your choppers at great risk, as you had no idea as to its location without CCR acting as a directional warning.
I never really thought of the Chinook being all that fast, but yea...they're actually REALLY fast!! Heard that a few years ago and was like, "no way..." Yup! They're CRAZY powerful!!
it makes sense when you think about it. they use 100% of their power for lift and unlike the coaxials, the blades are separated enough that they're mostly getting clean air. it's even somewhat safe from retreating blade stall as it would balance out between the two rotors.
@alphazuluz They're actually a lot smaller than I expected. First time I saw one in country, I was like, "oh..." Like, look up a CH-53...THOSE are huge...been on a million of those. They're like a damn school bus with a rotor. The Chinook looks substantially smaller. (Minus the rotors...)
I probably have thousands of hours in the Mi-24p. When we would go out on missions, I always had to slow down for the Blacksharks to keep up. I would think it would be between the Chinook and the Hind for 1st place. Been flying the Chinook since it came out. Might need to warm back up in the Hind and try this run with some people, looks like fun. Thanks to Grim Reapers for all the DCS videos.
Cap: Please get the course map for Red Bull Air Race in Abu DHabi or Dubai or LOndon or France, and THEN have this kind of race against the clock. Although a MASS START would provide beacoup lulz.
Is there another piece of kit that looks as slow and lumbering as the Ch-47 while actually being fast as F*** and just as nimble? Amazing machine when you consider not only the speed and agility…but its capacity to carry troops, heavy cargo and to operate at higher altitudes than most
To make it fair(er), you want several rounds with each pilot flying a different heli every time, to mitigate individual skill/experience being too much of a factor... Then average out the performance. I know not everyone will own every module, but hopefully each has enough to do 3-4 different rounds.
from my understanding chinooks are fast because their two rotors counter rotating cancels out the torque vibrations which is why the kamov is fast as well
@@testthepest6259 My issue is I have a limited number of usb ports and would prefer one with a throttle but I guess I could get a bluetooth mouse and keyboard to free one up.. I want to fly like Command T
I don’t exactly remember, but I was told by a pilot once that all single blade helicopters are limited by some effect that makes them automatically slow down if they try to go past a certain speed. Any one know what he was talking about?
Retreating blade stall. Rotor can only go so fast because you do not want the tips of the blades to go supersonic. So just before the tips go supersonic that is as fast as you your rotor can spin. If you are moving faster than the lift being generated by that blade on the retreating side, the helo will roll over because no lift is being generated on the retreating blade side.
Helos like the chinook and Ka-50 get around retreating blade stall because they have a rotor going in each direction. So when the blades stall, the other rotor is still providing lift on that rotor's retreating blade side.
@@Power5 Interesting. I never knew about this. Thinking about it, it makes sense. Like how twin engine propeller air craft will have each engine spinning in a different direction to counteract the torque from spinning the aircraft over.
Properly flown, the Gaz should only be faster than the Kiowa. The Mi24 should beat it by quite a bit, the Mi8 should not be far behind the Mi24 and even the Huey should beat the Gaz. You are flying a good top speed pushing 125-130kts in the Gaz. But the Huey can push 130-140 and the Mi24 does 300kph+ which is about 160kt+. No idea why the mi24 was sooo far behind.
Hi Cap! I got a Sea Power (or DCS) idea... 15 miles diameter circle of open ocean with some sea state to make it interesting. Assemble The Boys around this ring in the battleship of their choice. Every ship for itself, guns only - no missiles. A battleship dogfighting death match where many may set sail but only one returns to port. Is this possible? Could be fun with lots of boom boom.
ackchully it pronounced exactly as Mee, m i is wrong anglizizm letter readers pronunciation, design bureau of Mihail Mil was involved, so. What drives me crazy is how in sake of not to mess cyrillic 'Х' with 'eeks' it was transcribed as Kh and now all the internet call something like Harkov as Karkow and ha missiles as 'Kee aych' and so on
I can already tell this will be a video full of proper flying techniques and safe operation of military assets
This is the way
Definitely no crashing at the end - and I havent even watched it yet
Funny story about a Chinook. I was working at the Picacho Mine in Imperial county California when a Marine Chinook lost one of its two turbines. It made an emergency landing at the historic grave yard. They had to sent the other Chinook to Riverside to get a spare turbine. They were really hoping to get it changed out before dark so they could get back to base before the next episode of Shogun. They made it.
Marine Chinook? At first I thought you'd seen CH-46 which is an understandable confusion, but Shogun is pretty recent and those are out of service. Sure it was Marine? Not a V-22/CH-53?
@@superfamilyallosauridae6505 Sure they're talking about the remake and not the original Shogun series from 1980?
This was between 1980 and 1985 when I worked at that mine. Shogun was a miniseries based on the novel and did very well for the five or so days that it played. It was definitely a twin rotor. Isn't the CH-53 the single rotor Stallion? They didn't want to have to fly the other chopper to MCAS Yuma to get rifles, guard the chopper overnight and miss that night's episode of Shogun. This was before the internet and easy viewing later of something that had already played. They were flying an exercise in the Chocolate Mountain area and luckily Yuma had a spare engine so they could fly there, get it, install it, and get to Yuma to overnight there.
@@hardrockuniversity7283 Ok, sick, CH-46 Phrog then. Beautiful helicopters. Hilarious they made the remake so recently it threw me off lol
It used to be cool to watch them practice low level flying while I was drilling rock. Weird when one went down and STAYED down. They would sometimes land there because it was a flat LZ. I'm sure if had been a serious emergency they would have landed on the leach pad as it was much larger and flatter. I know my wife and I offered them a hot lunch if they wanted it.
I was on Chinooks on quite a few occasions and our Gunship escorts Apache’s had to tell us to slow down because they couldn’t keep up LOL
100%, the MERT Apache' escorts couldn't keep up with the Chinook.
@@superflyguy4488there were definitely occasions when the MERT pilots requested permission to leave the Ugly callsigns behind in order to get injured personnel back to Bastion quicker.
@@garyfrench6536 I was a PJ and we most certainly did on the exfil. The golden hour is the golden hour and we did our best not to break that.
Actually a cool story.. The Helicopter speed record has stood since 1986.. Set by a modified factory demonstration Westland Lynx AH.1.. It reached an avrg speed over a 15km course of 400km/h .. Its a great demonstration of the physical limits a helicoptor runs into.. During the speed runs, the main rotor blade tips reached a speed of 0.97 Mach.
that chinook pilot is realy skilled, look like a movie while the others struggled, look at that take off
I recently got the Kiowa myself and was surprised at how slow such a light bird is. 120 knots already threatens you with retreating blade stall... and normal operation with loaded weapons is closer to 90 knots.
Looking forward to the first fully functional Airwolf model. THEN WE'LL SEE WHO WINS A DRAG RACE!
If I was horrifically rich, I’d buy a Chinook and turn it into a big flying camper van with luxury interior. Then live in it while touring the world.
I'm sure I have seen one as a Air Bnb somewhere, non flying obviously
Oh I so wish someone would bring in a Lynx Mod. Game over.
Yarp +Falklands re-enactments...
Beautifull flying from the Chinook Pilot, you should try two miles too
CH47s are stupid fast, people underestimate the flying brick 😂
Great vid, as always.
I live in the Seattle area. Your pronunciation of Chinook is so....charming. The long "O" in lieu of a "U".
A shibboleth to tell if someone has been in the Pacific Northwest a long time is their pronunciation of many of the Native American based place names or items - Puyallup, Geoduck, Tulalip, Issaquah, Skookumchuck, Suiattle, Spokane and many more. A coworker who moved here after retiring from the USAF couldn't get Tukwila right even after several years. I'm sure if I ever moved to the NE I'd have a heck of a time with the Tribal based names there - sooooo different from here in the PNW. Ditto if I ever went to the UK, all the shires there..... Two peoples separated by a common language.
Need the new CH-53K the king by Sikorsky
No Westland lynx or wildcat?
Come on Chinook, Daddy needs a new pair of Shoes!
Fun video! I alway love these GR races and competitions. Have you ever done a helicopter version of carrier landings in different weather?
FYI: The Chinook rhymes with look, not kook. And notice how it was rock steady through the whole race. A nice ride indeed.
That ch1nook driver needs a promotion ... that was some 10/10 flying . Hats off to chinook pilot.
I identify as an attack chopper. It's great to see my community get representation. Welcome to the woke side Cap.
Woke side best side. No, wait...
@@grimreapers 🙂
Cojo should expect a call from the 160th SOAR with a take off like that.
Helicopters are one of those vehicle types that go against the whole smaller=faster idea. Especially when said helicopter(s) has two full sized rotors and no tail rotor
A proper Sunday morning starter. Thank you!
Really great drag race. A thought on doing a slightly different style is which heloicopter is the quickest from a dark state as in not being powered up, which helo can go from nothing powered on to crossing the finish line first.
My thought of this comes from something I was told about the RAF in Afghan is in a medivac scenario the Chinook often when without the Apache escort as the Apache's took so long to start up.
Good stuff, chinook a pretty good design
Glad my discord suggestion was quickly acted on! Such a cool community I feel valued!
While in a ch-47 many moons ago, i can vouche for the airframe having to slowdown for the required escorts. Bottomline, Chinook wins all
I see civilian Chinooks flying pretty regularly, they're pretty impressive.
Helicopter canyon run???
Absolutely amazing idea. This comment is underrated
@@markredacted8547 Cap may have to tone down the SAMs but, yea a fun watch....Plus, its difficult to fly those helicopters so, are there enough players to fly the copters?
I really want to watch IRL helicopter drag racing now. So much more interesting.
Dear Sir or Madam, I wish to draw your attention to the Huey JAFFO who forgot to arm the Fortunate Son flight mode. This put the rest of your choppers at great risk, as you had no idea as to its location without CCR acting as a directional warning.
I never really thought of the Chinook being all that fast, but yea...they're actually REALLY fast!! Heard that a few years ago and was like, "no way..." Yup! They're CRAZY powerful!!
10,000 horsepower comes in handy...
@grimreapers To quote the great Jeremy Clarkson: "POOOWAAAAAAA!!!"
it makes sense when you think about it. they use 100% of their power for lift and unlike the coaxials, the blades are separated enough that they're mostly getting clean air. it's even somewhat safe from retreating blade stall as it would balance out between the two rotors.
I was shocked to hear that they are so fast. They’re MASSIVE.
@alphazuluz They're actually a lot smaller than I expected. First time I saw one in country, I was like, "oh..."
Like, look up a CH-53...THOSE are huge...been on a million of those. They're like a damn school bus with a rotor. The Chinook looks substantially smaller. (Minus the rotors...)
I probably have thousands of hours in the Mi-24p. When we would go out on missions, I always had to slow down for the Blacksharks to keep up. I would think it would be between the Chinook and the Hind for 1st place. Been flying the Chinook since it came out. Might need to warm back up in the Hind and try this run with some people, looks like fun. Thanks to Grim Reapers for all the DCS videos.
Cap: Please get the course map for Red Bull Air Race in Abu DHabi or Dubai or LOndon or France, and THEN have this kind of race against the clock. Although a MASS START would provide beacoup lulz.
Is there another piece of kit that looks as slow and lumbering as the Ch-47 while actually being fast as F*** and just as nimble?
Amazing machine when you consider not only the speed and agility…but its capacity to carry troops, heavy cargo and to operate at higher altitudes than most
C-17s, while not looking like it they can really move when they don't have a full belly.
A question for the guy who was, "A real helicopter pilot for many years" How does the simulator on DCS compare to real life?
It's Poosh. I'll ask.
Like watching CarWow, will you do a brake test?
I love carwow!
it funny how old the Chinook is and still used 21 countries military's
Cap. NOOBY... then crashes...LOL classic... you guy rock.. keepen coming man.. love the content and channel
Every time I see a gazelle in these videos, I keep hoping for a Blue Thunder mod!
One day...
To make it fair(er), you want several rounds with each pilot flying a different heli every time, to mitigate individual skill/experience being too much of a factor... Then average out the performance.
I know not everyone will own every module, but hopefully each has enough to do 3-4 different rounds.
Chinook’s kick ass😂
Too make it fair, in my opinion, you should add equal amount of fuel in each heli. For example 100 L, that gives each heli the same handicap
They run these tests with 0 fuel and fuel burn turned off
I forgot to say, we removed the fuel from the planes.
from my understanding chinooks are fast because their two rotors counter rotating cancels out the torque vibrations which is why the kamov is fast as well
Lynx / Wildcat is fastest I think - is it out yet?
Nope
Grim Reapers - Show 'Em Yer Nuts!
Not going to say some bored aircrews may have done this kind of thing in real life....nope, not gonna say it 🙄
Where's all the thumbs up and comments?
Given the amount of subs there should be loads more.
Must share GR videos more.
You just can't beat American horsepower in a straight line.
Right, let me just download the HUMS data and see if anything has been overtorqued…
As long as there are no follow-up questions: I checked and was all within tolerances.
Is the lynx not available?
No
@ lol, a very to the point answer. Not knowing DCS, is it not featured?
You have the Huey - but not the bell ah-1w supercobra
I flew in chinooks several times when I was a cadet at RAF Odiham... I've never been so airsick in my life. :-/
How about flying backwards around an easy obstacle course?
One more time, start at hover.
Should have had people switch helis each round
Where is Blue Thunder?
Everything with logic. Helicopters with 2 rotors are faster than with one. Why there was no Mi-28. They say he is fast.
@@Rotaks mi 24 and ka 50 are faster irl, not much but number dont lie
When did Richard Herring start playing DCS?
How about the CH-53D or the K model???Eck USMC
i can get ka50 to 140 knots but any past that it screams at me to slow down
no way in hell that mi24 would lose against this stack
Where is the battle egg ,?
Where can I find a good joystick for helos?
FFBeast
@@testthepest6259 My issue is I have a limited number of usb ports and would prefer one with a throttle but I guess I could get a bluetooth mouse and keyboard to free one up.. I want to fly like Command T
Yeah, finally a fun video again, I miss hunt the general
I do too. One day maybe.
Hind pilot 😂😂😂 👌🏼👌🏼
AH-1 Cobra?
Needs more Moooooooooooo
I don’t exactly remember, but I was told by a pilot once that all single blade helicopters are limited by some effect that makes them automatically slow down if they try to go past a certain speed.
Any one know what he was talking about?
Yes.
Retreating blade stall. Rotor can only go so fast because you do not want the tips of the blades to go supersonic. So just before the tips go supersonic that is as fast as you your rotor can spin. If you are moving faster than the lift being generated by that blade on the retreating side, the helo will roll over because no lift is being generated on the retreating blade side.
Helos like the chinook and Ka-50 get around retreating blade stall because they have a rotor going in each direction. So when the blades stall, the other rotor is still providing lift on that rotor's retreating blade side.
@@Power5 Interesting. I never knew about this. Thinking about it, it makes sense. Like how twin engine propeller air craft will have each engine spinning in a different direction to counteract the torque from spinning the aircraft over.
Properly flown, the Gaz should only be faster than the Kiowa. The Mi24 should beat it by quite a bit, the Mi8 should not be far behind the Mi24 and even the Huey should beat the Gaz.
You are flying a good top speed pushing 125-130kts in the Gaz. But the Huey can push 130-140 and the Mi24 does 300kph+ which is about 160kt+. No idea why the mi24 was sooo far behind.
where's the lynx...!
Hi Cap! I got a Sea Power (or DCS) idea... 15 miles diameter circle of open ocean with some sea state to make it interesting. Assemble The Boys around this ring in the battleship of their choice. Every ship for itself, guns only - no missiles. A battleship dogfighting death match where many may set sail but only one returns to port. Is this possible? Could be fun with lots of boom boom.
Problem is there is currently only one battleship in game.
@@grimreapers Sauce for the goose, Mr. Saavik. The odds will be even.
im sorry but this bugs me too much, its not pronounced Me-24, its m i 24
ackchully it pronounced exactly as Mee, m i is wrong anglizizm letter readers pronunciation, design bureau of Mihail Mil was involved, so.
What drives me crazy is how in sake of not to mess cyrillic 'Х' with 'eeks' it was transcribed as Kh and now all the internet call something like Harkov as Karkow and ha missiles as 'Kee aych' and so on
Too bad you don't have a MH-6M Littlebird to run in this. By the way Cap. your a worse helio pilot than mil. jet pilot which is saying something.
This is not accurate, I do not see Air Wolf.
no westland lynx
Shame😢 frozone says where's my viper
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