It would be interesting if TFL made a chart or ranking for these vehicle tests. Perhaps use a RAV4 as the control vehicle (since it's the most popular SUV in the world), and then rate the other SUVs above or below it for each test.
tommy...the 1.6T is with the Hybrid and 6sp auto on Tucson....the 2.5 T is with the dual clutch on Santa Cruz...these 2 share platform not all power-trains
I used to own a 2016 Kia Sorento AWD with the v6. And i owned it for literally one year before the transmission blew up and the transfer case and the rear shaft went with it too. The car was awesome, it was peppy, not too shabby on gas, and it was incredible in the dirt especially with the 50/50 torque split. It never struggled till i got it stuck up to the headlights in snow in a ditch (got ran off the road by a semi). BUT I kept having issues with it acting like it was stuck in 4 low like a truck kept skipping the tires, and grinding. There was almost no information on it but after digging around it turns out Kia/Hyundai were so cheap they used the same air activated transfer case shenanigans in the tiny cars and the bigger suvs with the v6. The v6 was too strong and put too much strain on the whole transmission setup which would activate the locker when it wasn't supposed to. And I was rough with mine but others were not and still had the same problem, basically from the factory they were coming out destroying their transmissions. Wouldn't recommend a hyundai/kia anytime soon.
I've been doing a LOT of rugged forest roads in a low clearance 2012 Hyundai Genesis, and have been able to make it to surprising places. I've been in parking lots near trail heads in national forests that only have Jeep Rubicons and Toyota 4 Runners in them. People look at me like, "how in the hell did you get up here in that car??" Well I managed.
great video! can't wait for you to get hands on the new 2024 Hyundai Santa Fe (XRT or otherwise) for the slip test and off road test. interested in how it would perform against other softroaders. would be interested to see it compared to the facelifted Kia Sorento.
Tommy almost never uses the rollers regularly. TFL gets tons of awd and 4x4 vehicles on video but skip the rollers. I suspect he doesn’t have a top ten over 10 years for this reason.
I love the drive train on the hyundai models, their motion, precision of driveability close comparison with Nissan small models vehicles which I drove before, braking system not as heavy, very slight when braking you can tell the vehicle is stilling in motion when quick braking on the small model vehicles.
For a basic SUV that was just branded with a few offroad features... It performed well I think.. So nice one from Hyundai.. This isn't an off road vehicle.. I'd like to see a video with their Santa cruz
As with most crossovers, they're ok for gravel roads or maintained forest service roads but anything harder than that would necessitate a more capable vehicle - a Cherokee Trailhawk or Bronco Sport badlands, or just step up to a vehicle with a true 4wd system and low range transfer case. Because as testing has shown time and again, even the best AWD system is no substitution for a true 4x4 witj a good set of all terrain tires.
Many of these types of 4wd/AWD systems seem to react slowly. I know that if i were driving in poor traction conditions I'd to react instantly or at least as fast i can react to a slide/slip/skid.
The BIC lighter of the automotive world. I've owned a couple and there are cheap Econo boxes. I'd never buy another one. Cheap quality, you basically get what you paid for.
I feel like in the event of a snow storm or icy road scenario, going around a corner and easing onto the gas, I don't think this car's all-wheel drive system would catch itself if the car started to slide because it's so sluggish to respond.
If it's anything like the Palisade it will do well in snow. Ice is a struggle for all cars unless you have studs. Is it Subaru level, maybe not, but it works great for most drivers. By Subaru I mean 2000s, non CVT.
I wish TFL would test models that aren't top trim. Most of us aren't buying the "ultimate" offroad versions. We are buying closer to base and building them up. Test a Tuscan SEL, Bronco Sport Big Bend, RAV 4 base. Give us real perspective on what most consumers are buying.
Hyundai quality has definitely improved since they came to be long ago. But they are still learning an trying to meet customer needs/ wants/ and demands. They have yet to actually enter the off roady segment. They are more into city vehicles for now unfortunately. Each manufacturer has there issues when it comes to your personal vehicle issues but i think Hyundai is better than some out there. Not all but some. But again they still have ways to go and alot to learn. Americans need options and hyundai is dragging there feet when it comes to giving us more.
Zero under body protection. Not even covers for aero purposes. This is clearly not designed for any serious off-road driving. I really like the way the infotainment is a design feature to the dash and not just a Tesla aftermarket tack-on. Ugly gawky shifter, is obsolete and just needs to go. Clearly showing its time for an interior update. Speaking of interiors, far too much black.
Last time I saw a Hyundai off road video, the transmission/Awd overheated and went in limp mode. Might’ve been on this channel. So this is better but I’ll stick with Subaru. The new Hondas with torque vectoring awd are strong too.
Like a baby. You take care, hit all the markers and you either have a decent ride or a serial killer!🤣 Plus, who assembled it? Was it built on a shift where folks like to drink and smoke lunches? People have different strokes for different vehicles!😁
I'm not too fond of this small unibody crossover push trying to be an off-road machine from the manufacturers. Nissan did this with the Pathfinder, too. At least the Ford Maverick and the Bronco Sport are related to each other.
@ThisGuyRides and Ford Escape is junk! Have drove 2017, 2019 and 2020 now. All are fleet cars. All have had terrible problems and get removed from with less than 30k miles. Troubles? Blown engine, blown turbo, failed brake booster, faulty blind spot monitor, rotary gear selector locks up in 85+ heat. Maverick and BS built in Mexico. Good luck and best bought used.
Hyundai makes great city cars but not made for anything off-road. Flimsy bumpers and thin plastic underbellies are just for lightening the cars. I love their warranty and cheap parts for repair, but not as serious with the AWD and off-road as I would like. They could eat Subaru's lunch if they made the effort.
This video exposes and reminds me that these vehicles are just cars with a costume on. The roller height is on the cusp point of usable articulation for traction at the 7 minute mark.
Yeah comments…but as a Hyundai tech..I’m here to tell you that the new ones have improved significantly, and I’d recommend at least a tuscon, sonata, or a Santa fe.
When I hear or read "off road package" when connected to most of today's small to midsize SUVs/Crossovers and I see all the low ground clearances and plastic fiddly bits, I regret not investing in at least one high end body shop dedicated to just such vehicles. I'm pretty sure the majority of such vehicles are actually limited to well-maintained dirt roads for the most part when it comes to their usefulness/survivability in true off-road situations.
@@ThisGuyRidesTo each his own, I guess. All I see is money in the bank for dealership maintenance and parts departments and after warranty mechanics and body shops.
I see nee Hyundais every day. As they get flat bed towed into the local dealership to have their engines rebuilt. Seriously especially the elantras and somatas.
@@kromahj I mean if that is how you feel about yourself who am I to argue it. But on the fact of cars no. It's quite true. We owned one of those Elantras that was towed in. By all means please go buy one. The local tow company could use the business. You know what they say. Nothing says ' I eat paste ' like buying a Hyundai or Kia
@@user-cg7cc7zj3e I have owe Hyundai and Kia for years, I haven’t been to dealership or towed. And my wife telluride is almost 5 years with out issues. I also own a 2015 sonata and it moving strong with 160k on the dash
Yup, they’re trash cars. I know 2 people that owned KIAs that had straight up engine failure at 100k. One had his turbo fail with less than 100k miles before the engine blew and the other had her AC go out right after the engine was replaced. Not to mention both cars didn’t come with a key immobilizer so they’re easy to steal. I swear all the company did was redesign their logo and people swear they are more reliable now.
Seems like anything with a dual clutch auto is a POS Ford had horrible experience with this design in their focus and fiesta cars and looks like the same for Hyundai. Not sure why they try to go complicated in the lower end these dual clutches just will not hold up in city driving they over heat just like the cvt another POS choice stuck with a good 6 or 8 spd torque converter type nice to see Mazda keeping it simple the CX50 is a much better choice
Hizo Todo sin problema pero siempre hay 2 o 3 con carros viejos que entran a ver un vídeo de un automóvil que supuestamente no le gusta para criticarlo muy patético 🤦♂️
I’m shocked they didn’t even give it all terrain tyres that’s not an expensive thing to do AND what we’re thinking putting 19s on it and there’s no black badges or anything aggressive in its styling absolutely PATHETIC excuse of an off-road trim level😂
I like Hyundai's design, but they don't know how to make attractive rear bumpers! I hate all their rear bumper designs 😒! They just look ugly to me! Who's designing these ugly rear bumpers? They don't look cool at all!
You guys were, WAY more honest in your earlier reviews! Its more like going to the dealer with the vids you are doing now. Stop giving decent reviews to obviously crappy cars.
Share the experience everybody around my job got one of some sort n swear by em and I think there crap and I never drove one or been in one I own two Lexus .
Hyundai cars are better i own a 2019 elantra gt sport turbo with a manual and is 90k miles strong with no issues, of course they may not last300k miles but with normal maintenance they can last a long time
I know your pain. The fact that Hyundai quality has dropped so catastrophically since about 2011 makes me wonder how the lower end kias are even making off the lot.
@@bradleyscarreviews I wouldn't take those suvs or crossovers offroad either but at least they have value koreans make good stuff cars is not one of them.
Correction: Turbo Tucsons use a hybrid system and torque converter and not a dual clutch, my apologies for the brain fart!
So this means my 2022 Santa Fe XRT does ok just like Tuscan? It has same engine and transmission. 😁
Umm, why have your dog next to the moving vehicle like that?
@@robertlawrence9000 Because dogs aren't as dumb as most humans
0:58 to 1:00 the dog was like "What the heck are you driving ? I don't wanna get hurt" 😆
No way I would be driving forward and backward with a dog nearby like he did in this video. All I could see was that dog getting run over
@@teamvigod oh calm down. There are literally other people around and able to see the dog if it was in any harm.
Does anyine know the breed of that dog
It would be interesting if TFL made a chart or ranking for these vehicle tests. Perhaps use a RAV4 as the control vehicle (since it's the most popular SUV in the world), and then rate the other SUVs above or below it for each test.
RAV4 is shite offroad look up Carexpert suv tests.
Im impressed with the performance and no overheating very impressive never thought Hyundai Tucson would perform this Good.
tommy...the 1.6T is with the Hybrid and 6sp auto on Tucson....the 2.5 T is with the dual clutch on Santa Cruz...these 2 share platform not all power-trains
0:06 I wonder what Blaze was looking for under the car.😁😆😄
I used to own a 2016 Kia Sorento AWD with the v6. And i owned it for literally one year before the transmission blew up and the transfer case and the rear shaft went with it too. The car was awesome, it was peppy, not too shabby on gas, and it was incredible in the dirt especially with the 50/50 torque split. It never struggled till i got it stuck up to the headlights in snow in a ditch (got ran off the road by a semi). BUT I kept having issues with it acting like it was stuck in 4 low like a truck kept skipping the tires, and grinding. There was almost no information on it but after digging around it turns out Kia/Hyundai were so cheap they used the same air activated transfer case shenanigans in the tiny cars and the bigger suvs with the v6. The v6 was too strong and put too much strain on the whole transmission setup which would activate the locker when it wasn't supposed to. And I was rough with mine but others were not and still had the same problem, basically from the factory they were coming out destroying their transmissions. Wouldn't recommend a hyundai/kia anytime soon.
New ones are fine. They’ve since improved.
@@bradleyscarreviews fair enough possibly since they did away with the V6 in most of their line up besides the full size SUVs and vans.
I've been doing a LOT of rugged forest roads in a low clearance 2012 Hyundai Genesis, and have been able to make it to surprising places. I've been in parking lots near trail heads in national forests that only have Jeep Rubicons and Toyota 4 Runners in them. People look at me like, "how in the hell did you get up here in that car??" Well I managed.
great video! can't wait for you to get hands on the new 2024 Hyundai Santa Fe (XRT or otherwise) for the slip test and off road test. interested in how it would perform against other softroaders. would be interested to see it compared to the facelifted Kia Sorento.
Slip test on top ten for the past ten years. Let’s see it brother. Top ten under 10k and top ten under 10 years. Keep it clean and awesome
Tommy almost never uses the rollers regularly. TFL gets tons of awd and 4x4 vehicles on video but skip the rollers. I suspect he doesn’t have a top ten over 10 years for this reason.
Idk on that but those primacy tires on my Silverado are some the nicest I’ve had in the snow
I love the drive train on the hyundai models, their motion, precision of driveability close comparison with Nissan small models vehicles which I drove before, braking system not as heavy, very slight when braking you can tell the vehicle is stilling in motion when quick braking on the small model vehicles.
Curious how the slip test would have went if you put it in "snow" mode as well.
For a basic SUV that was just branded with a few offroad features... It performed well I think.. So nice one from Hyundai.. This isn't an off road vehicle.. I'd like to see a video with their Santa cruz
I knew this SUV would struggle but my curiosity was how much it would struggle with this course. I would skip the XRT and go with the SEL trim.
Did they stop the 2.5 from blowing up yet ?
As with most crossovers, they're ok for gravel roads or maintained forest service roads but anything harder than that would necessitate a more capable vehicle - a Cherokee Trailhawk or Bronco Sport badlands, or just step up to a vehicle with a true 4wd system and low range transfer case. Because as testing has shown time and again, even the best AWD system is no substitution for a true 4x4 witj a good set of all terrain tires.
I would like to request the presence of Blaze in more videos!
What’s the breed of the dog
Many of these types of 4wd/AWD systems seem to react slowly. I know that if i were driving in poor traction conditions I'd to react instantly or at least as fast i can react to a slide/slip/skid.
The BIC lighter of the automotive world. I've owned a couple and there are cheap Econo boxes. I'd never buy another one. Cheap quality, you basically get what you paid for.
Hey TFL, when you’re going to try or review the new Subaru Crosstrek Wilderness…. Thank you, please!!!
I feel like in the event of a snow storm or icy road scenario, going around a corner and easing onto the gas, I don't think this car's all-wheel drive system would catch itself if the car started to slide because it's so sluggish to respond.
If it's anything like the Palisade it will do well in snow. Ice is a struggle for all cars unless you have studs. Is it Subaru level, maybe not, but it works great for most drivers. By Subaru I mean 2000s, non CVT.
The slip test is boring for any vehicle….except the Hornet 🐝
Test the new Outlander PHEV.
I wish TFL would test models that aren't top trim. Most of us aren't buying the "ultimate" offroad versions. We are buying closer to base and building them up. Test a Tuscan SEL, Bronco Sport Big Bend, RAV 4 base. Give us real perspective on what most consumers are buying.
Basically an appearance package... no thanks lol
Also, congratulations on the pregnancy Tommy, we all knew you could do it!
😂
Wery good!
Solid 🤟👽🎬
Blaze wasnt impressed with that Hyundai at all.
Hyundai quality has definitely improved since they came to be long ago. But they are still learning an trying to meet customer needs/ wants/ and demands. They have yet to actually enter the off roady segment. They are more into city vehicles for now unfortunately. Each manufacturer has there issues when it comes to your personal vehicle issues but i think Hyundai is better than some out there. Not all but some. But again they still have ways to go and alot to learn. Americans need options and hyundai is dragging there feet when it comes to giving us more.
If Hyundai actually had a true locking rear diff, these vehicles would be next level.
Zero under body protection. Not even covers for aero purposes. This is clearly not designed for any serious off-road driving. I really like the way the infotainment is a design feature to the dash and not just a Tesla aftermarket tack-on. Ugly gawky shifter, is obsolete and just needs to go. Clearly showing its time for an interior update. Speaking of interiors, far too much black.
Yea, that's a real torture test!
Wheels and tires are the basics of making any vehicle off road ready and they chose to put those huge rims on
New. Santa fe XRT 🔥🔥🔥
Last time I saw a Hyundai off road video, the transmission/Awd overheated and went in limp mode. Might’ve been on this channel. So this is better but I’ll stick with Subaru. The new Hondas with torque vectoring awd are strong too.
This didn’t overheat.
Hey, kid where is your Dog. He loves the Hyundai
Thank you for not using the non-word "off-roady."
SO basically the center lock button is just placebo
Like a baby. You take care, hit all the markers and you either have a decent ride or a serial killer!🤣 Plus, who assembled it? Was it built on a shift where folks like to drink and smoke lunches? People have different strokes for different vehicles!😁
The dog lol
I'm not too fond of this small unibody crossover push trying to be an off-road machine from the manufacturers. Nissan did this with the Pathfinder, too. At least the Ford Maverick and the Bronco Sport are related to each other.
And both the Maverick and Bronc Sport are based on Escape.
@ThisGuyRides and Ford Escape is junk! Have drove 2017, 2019 and 2020 now. All are fleet cars. All have had terrible problems and get removed from with less than 30k miles. Troubles? Blown engine, blown turbo, failed brake booster, faulty blind spot monitor, rotary gear selector locks up in 85+ heat. Maverick and BS built in Mexico. Good luck and best bought used.
Sounds wrong “Andre’s Pit” 😅
Blaze in video. Instant increase in views
Hyundai makes great city cars but not made for anything off-road. Flimsy bumpers and thin plastic underbellies are just for lightening the cars. I love their warranty and cheap parts for repair, but not as serious with the AWD and off-road as I would like. They could eat Subaru's lunch if they made the effort.
They don't make great ANYTHING; nor could they "eat" anything Made in Japan lmao
This video exposes and reminds me that these vehicles are just cars with a costume on. The roller height is on the cusp point of usable articulation for traction at the 7 minute mark.
It's literally TRX spelled backward. How could it be good off-road?
Comments here about Hyundai/Kia reliability spooked me.
Cuz it always people who never own one
@@kromahj You mean the smart ones??
Yeah comments…but as a Hyundai tech..I’m here to tell you that the new ones have improved significantly, and I’d recommend at least a tuscon, sonata, or a Santa fe.
When I hear or read "off road package" when connected to most of today's small to midsize SUVs/Crossovers and I see all the low ground clearances and plastic fiddly bits, I regret not investing in at least one high end body shop dedicated to just such vehicles. I'm pretty sure the majority of such vehicles are actually limited to well-maintained dirt roads for the most part when it comes to their usefulness/survivability in true off-road situations.
People who buy them know it's just an appearance package, they just want the rugged look.
@@ThisGuyRidesTo each his own, I guess. All I see is money in the bank for dealership maintenance and parts departments and after warranty mechanics and body shops.
I see nee Hyundais every day. As they get flat bed towed into the local dealership to have their engines rebuilt. Seriously especially the elantras and somatas.
Another troll
@@kromahj I mean if that is how you feel about yourself who am I to argue it. But on the fact of cars no. It's quite true. We owned one of those Elantras that was towed in. By all means please go buy one. The local tow company could use the business. You know what they say. Nothing says ' I eat paste ' like buying a Hyundai or Kia
@@user-cg7cc7zj3eStop stop he's already dead comes to mind. 😂
@@user-cg7cc7zj3e I have owe Hyundai and Kia for years, I haven’t been to dealership or towed. And my wife telluride is almost 5 years with out issues. I also own a 2015 sonata and it moving strong with 160k on the dash
@@kromahjtruth hurts lmao
Subaru is still the king
Got no flex not good.
“It’s a little flimsy” - the whole brand
No it isn’t. You know how many Toyotas I’ve been in that felt flimsy?
How many?@@bradleyscarreviews
It's built for soccer moms. Let's be honest.
Just like Rav4 CRV
RAV4, crv no different
Blaze doesn’t look impressed.
Before anyone else watches: no, it isn't off-road ready..... Although it was better than I expected
Yup, they’re trash cars. I know 2 people that owned KIAs that had straight up engine failure at 100k. One had his turbo fail with less than 100k miles before the engine blew and the other had her AC go out right after the engine was replaced. Not to mention both cars didn’t come with a key immobilizer so they’re easy to steal. I swear all the company did was redesign their logo and people swear they are more reliable now.
Hyundai/kia isn’t ready for anything anymore!
Seems like anything with a dual clutch auto is a POS Ford had horrible experience with this design in their focus and fiesta cars and looks like the same for Hyundai. Not sure why they try to go complicated in the lower end these dual clutches just will not hold up in city driving they over heat just like the cvt another POS choice stuck with a good 6 or 8 spd torque converter type nice to see Mazda keeping it simple the CX50 is a much better choice
Real off road? Nope....
Hizo Todo sin problema pero siempre hay 2 o 3 con carros viejos que entran a ver un vídeo de un automóvil que supuestamente no le gusta para criticarlo muy patético 🤦♂️
I’m shocked they didn’t even give it all terrain tyres that’s not an expensive thing to do AND what we’re thinking putting 19s on it and there’s no black badges or anything aggressive in its styling absolutely PATHETIC excuse of an off-road trim level😂
TIRES***
I like Hyundai's design, but they don't know how to make attractive rear bumpers! I hate all their rear bumper designs 😒! They just look ugly to me! Who's designing these ugly rear bumpers? They don't look cool at all!
Pass.
I wanted this to fail so bad 😂😂😂
You guys were, WAY more honest in your earlier reviews! Its more like going to the dealer with the vids you are doing now. Stop giving decent reviews to obviously crappy cars.
Never buying another Hyundai …..
Share the experience everybody around my job got one of some sort n swear by em and I think there crap and I never drove one or been in one I own two Lexus .
140k miles strong on my tuscon may upgrade been a great car same for my coworker
Hyundai cars are better i own a 2019 elantra gt sport turbo with a manual and is 90k miles strong with no issues, of course they may not last300k miles but with normal maintenance they can last a long time
I know your pain. The fact that Hyundai quality has dropped so catastrophically since about 2011 makes me wonder how the lower end kias are even making off the lot.
Good!
How old is Tommy again?? My boy aging like milk.
No chance I'd pay anywhere close to $37k for that. Especially with the orange peel paint at 4:38 Yikes!
That car is so cheaply made.
It isn’t.
Biggeset pile of junk you can get
Troll.
I wouldnt take that pos off pavement I hate all kia products thats just a fancy kia
Good for you. I wouldn’t take a POS Toyota or Honda either.
@@bradleyscarreviews I wouldn't take those suvs or crossovers offroad either but at least they have value koreans make good stuff cars is not one of them.
Please never wear that hoodie ever again.
Tommy looks like a ghost in that horrible, dark interior. What a terrible interior.
Btw Hyundai OWNS you all and it’s very obvious. No one who watches your channels wants to or should buy a Kia Hyundai. Please stop.
Buy you watching it, why you trolling
@@kromahj baby the only thing I’m watching is yo mama take a big dookie 💩 on my chest
Shut up.
I’m never buy another Kia/Hyundai
Lol better buy a Delica D:5 4wd Diesel 2021
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