ive been so hurt, so so so so so hurt.... after serving for 16 years... i was left alone and hung to dry... i tried to go to another church, sat on a pew alone in silence and crying for 3 years... i thought God called me back to ministry at a little mission, but after 2 weeks i started seeing the spirit of these people... so much envy and jelousy of the talents and gifts i was given to steward... you can see it, you can feel it... even my mom and my son noticed... at this mission they say they speak in toungues and profess the spirit... but i dont believe they know who they follow... i am a step away from leaving the institutional church for good... im heart broken.... completely heart broken.... the worst part is trying to protect my children... so afraid for them... how will they find God when the body has been infiltrated... and is unsafe.
CurativeTherapeuticSleep you know... I think we are in a crucial time... where the chaff and the wheat are being divided... believers, leaders... showing their true colours ... The Lord’s return is nigh... time for us to show who we really are... true believers? True to His Word... so many sheep have been scattered... - the other day after much reflection I found Jeremiah 23:1 ... perhaps it’s time to feed the sheep of the Lord’s flocks... the ones that have been scattered- because if we love Him, are we not to feed them? I think The Lord is gathering them from all over ... and they are all meeting here on line... and they are being fed... they are shepherding each other .... I would never had turned on the church... but I learned something in Peru... God showed it to me in The Andes mountains... it’s a bit too long for a comment - I think I need to record it on my channel .... then I’ll send you the link... I think hearing you say it happened to you too was a tipping point for me... to address something that is important... and isn’t being said by very many....too many people out there are starving because their shepherds have ignored them ... left them on the cliff side... and walked away... pray if you would that words of wisdom would spill forth over the wounds of so many... that our lamps would be filled with oil before His coming... so we can be ready for His return .... whoever reads this and finds resonance - I pray you would encourage me through your prayers- because when there is agreement, He works ... that is the proof that it is not by our power, not our might ... but solely by His Spirit... the Spirit that reads every Word as I write it....
brilliantly put from all angles.👏 We don't hold God Up, He holds us UP. So for anyone that has been experiencing CHURCH HURT, look UP not DOWN God is close to the broken hearted and saves those crush in spirit.
Yes, great to point out that as we look up to God vertically he will also help us process the horizontal relationships. Without processing those horizontal relationships, healing doesn't happen nor does a person's ability to make and to recognise their own vulnerabilities to wolves and manipulative people. If Jesus wanted and needed close human relations in his darkest hours, then that's a good sign we are to have those too.
you are not alone...i am amazed at how many Christians feel this way. Why would you go somewhere that causes you pain...especially when the pain is so distracting that it keeps you from real worship
This needs to be shared more as too many of us have a story about this. This is the house of the Lord and yet we experience pain from our "brothers and sisters' in Christ!?
I Been through church hurt more than three times . At different churches The very 1st time I was so hurt I had vow to never put myself in that situation again no more church. But God showed me that I was there for him and so went again to a different church and it happened again but that time I was healed nothing broken and for gave them through Prayer.. we have to remember that church is a hospital for the hurting and sick I will never let church hurt keep me for God you have to have empathy and compassion as a child of the living God to forgive and move on to the next .. With wisdom and understanding an knowledge to be in the house of God ! I thank God for every experience I have because it shows me how much God big my Daddy is , and the love he has for me ... STAY ENCOURSGED TRUSTING JESUS, I LOVE YOU ❤ AND SO DOES OUR HEAVENLY FATHER ( WE WRESTLE NOT AGAINST FLESH AND BLOOD BUT AGAINST PRINCIPALITIES IN THE HEAVENLY REALMS❤ TRUST GOD HE LOVES YOU❤ GIVE GRACE GOD IS LOVE💕
This topic is HUGE. I Watched this and cried, as so much of it resonated with me and my own past experiences. I cried because I see how God has carried me and healed me from the real trauma of 'church hurt' and being able to forgive.. My greatest trust and confidence now is solely in God and His word. There need to be spirit led leaders in fellowships, if they are not led by the spirit there will be problems. Watch and pray for the times are evil and many in the church are enemies of the cross. Praying for every true believer in Jesus name! Blessings & Peace 🙏🏾
Brave documentary. Wherever there are groups of people there will be offence, often that can be resolved. Church is not always euphoric. There are times where self reflection and conviction is uncomfortable. However abuse from others in the church context is a serious betrayal. The insecurities of some leaders (spiritual jealously) is certainly a barrier. We must listen to the true prophets as painful as their message is. The rejection experienced by some is horrendous. Great that young man went and apologised but the leader was not gracious enough to receive and do the same. We have to do better when it comes to supporting married couples struggling. Biblical/professional is often the best course of action. But the True Church is real, we are the Church so heal and continue with the work.
This was a real and much needed documentary. I found it to be quite fair and unbiased, providing the right balance between recognising the difference between the church and God Himself. This was achieved through hearing from congregants as well as church leaders (like Bishop Mark) and those ex-communicated. A very well done.
Such a great and relevant film! I love the practical examples from Bishop Mark Nicholson. We need to talk, we need to listen. Put pride aside and show empathy 💝
Sadly, if one is considering being a part of a local church, one has to do so in the knowledge one is joining in with a group of people who are very messed up. It is therefore necessary to be on your guard and to protect yourself from the ungodly behaviour of others. This can be very difficult, because it goes against our idea of what an ideal expression of the body of Christ should be. It is nothing new. It is as old as the very first churches in the New Testament. Some of the most painful church hurt I have experienced includes being unwelcomed and ostracised by envious and juvenile cliques, and having my communications and concerns ignored or casually dismissed by church leaders. Church needs to be a place of safety, not a place of do’s and don’ts. Our commandments come from the Lord, not from a local church culture. What is the answer? There are no easy answers except to say that we are not to model ourselves on the behaviour of others in the church - we are called to be transformed by God into the likeness of his character. To be like Jesus by his Spirit and not by our own efforts. To be gracious and forgiving. To speak the truth and to value it above personal loyalties. Sometimes, we need to walk away from those who would persistently hurt us. Do not allow yourself to be defined by others’ prejudiced and faulty opinions about you. Overall, remember that we do and will give an account of our character and actions to Jesus himself, and not to any of the people we meet (or who hurt us) along the way. Seek out true believers who wish to love and build each other up, and note that this may not (and probably will not) be in an established local “church”.
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I understand this video is about Church, And the people who have been hurt by those in it. ..... I could not read the bible for over 15 years: Due to the way much in the NT had been distorted, and passages that were interpreted through quite misogynistic eyes. My failing marriage was used as a Test Case example for other churches. My life in a large sense was in the hands of the Elders. I felt mostly powerless. I ended up leaving. I carried that hurt and pain for over two decades. I felt I had forgiven those who hurt me. I see, now, I have not. And will very soon take it to my Father. God bless
What helps to deal with this is to understand that God can help you love the sinner and hate the sin. Ask the Holy Spirit to help you not lose out on your eternal reward due to hard feelings. As I speak to you, I speak to myself.
And when WE that are the church walk in the building for a meeting, it’s suppose to be a safe place. So WE ought to make the building/gathering a safe space.
very helpful is Dr. Les Carter on TH-cam, Dr. Ramine on youtube, and The Royal We by a Christian called Kevin also on TH-cam. Churches do not have people trained up to these standards.
I don't understand how you can have a perpetrater of diabolical church hurt in this video. A few of the people in this video are talking about the church hurt inflicted upon them by this same individual in their ministers garb! Is it meant to be ironic???? I know a few of the people in this video and the church leader in this video that inflicted so much pain. I am baffled at the choice of minister used to explain church hurt. All I can think is this is meant to be ironic.
perhaps the action transcends what we see... because God knows... and sometimes a person professes with their own mouth the damage of their wrongdoing... so that they will be held accountable to that higher degree before God... prophetic in a way
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ive been so hurt, so so so so so hurt.... after serving for 16 years... i was left alone and hung to dry... i tried to go to another church, sat on a pew alone in silence and crying for 3 years... i thought God called me back to ministry at a little mission, but after 2 weeks i started seeing the spirit of these people... so much envy and jelousy of the talents and gifts i was given to steward... you can see it, you can feel it... even my mom and my son noticed... at this mission they say they speak in toungues and profess the spirit... but i dont believe they know who they follow... i am a step away from leaving the institutional church for good... im heart broken.... completely heart broken.... the worst part is trying to protect my children... so afraid for them... how will they find God when the body has been infiltrated... and is unsafe.
Been through the same thing
CurativeTherapeuticSleep you know... I think we are in a crucial time... where the chaff and the wheat are being divided... believers, leaders... showing their true colours ... The Lord’s return is nigh... time for us to show who we really are... true believers? True to His Word... so many sheep have been scattered... - the other day after much reflection I found Jeremiah 23:1 ...
perhaps it’s time to feed the sheep of the Lord’s flocks... the ones that have been scattered- because if we love Him, are we not to feed them? I think The Lord is gathering them from all over ... and they are all meeting here on line... and they are being fed... they are shepherding each other .... I would never had turned on the church... but I learned something in Peru... God showed it to me in The Andes mountains... it’s a bit too long for a comment - I think I need to record it on my channel .... then I’ll send you the link... I think hearing you say it happened to you too was a tipping point for me... to address something that is important... and isn’t being said by very many....too many people out there are starving because their shepherds have ignored them ... left them on the cliff side... and walked away... pray if you would that words of wisdom would spill forth over the wounds of so many... that our lamps would be filled with oil before His coming... so we can be ready for His return .... whoever reads this and finds resonance - I pray you would encourage me through your prayers- because when there is agreement, He works ... that is the proof that it is not by our power, not our might ... but solely by His Spirit... the Spirit that reads every Word as I write it....
They cannot take Jesus from you. At least we have that guarrantee.
Hello there, I wanted to know how you’re feeling now? I am a believer and I care for you, i’m sorry💗
brilliantly put from all angles.👏
We don't hold God Up, He holds us UP. So for anyone that has been experiencing CHURCH HURT, look UP not DOWN
God is close to the broken hearted and saves those crush in spirit.
Yes, great to point out that as we look up to God vertically he will also help us process the horizontal relationships. Without processing those horizontal relationships, healing doesn't happen nor does a person's ability to make and to recognise their own vulnerabilities to wolves and manipulative people.
If Jesus wanted and needed close human relations in his darkest hours, then that's a good sign we are to have those too.
This subject must be addressed to save people. I have my own story. Shared
Awesome documentary. Very insightful... thank you for putting this together 👍🏾
Thank you so much for sharing! This is the best documentary on church hurt I’ve ever seen, and it is so needed.
I was hurt so much by Christians and I am now a hermit,
you are not alone...i am amazed at how many Christians feel this way. Why would you go somewhere that causes you pain...especially when the pain is so distracting that it keeps you from real worship
“you will know them by their fruits” God bless you all for your stories. your genuine heart will reward you by your Father in heaven
This needs to be shared more as too many of us have a story about this. This is the house of the Lord and yet we experience pain from our "brothers and sisters' in Christ!?
I Been through church hurt more than three times . At different churches The very 1st time I was so hurt I had vow to never put myself in that situation again no more church. But God showed me that I was there for him and so went again to a different church and it happened again but that time I was healed nothing broken and for gave them through Prayer.. we have to remember that church is a hospital for the hurting and sick I will never let church hurt keep me for God you have to have empathy and compassion as a child of the living God to forgive and move on to the next .. With wisdom and understanding an knowledge to be in the house of God ! I thank God for every experience I have because it shows me how much God big my Daddy is , and the love he has for me ... STAY ENCOURSGED TRUSTING JESUS, I LOVE YOU ❤ AND SO DOES OUR HEAVENLY FATHER ( WE WRESTLE NOT AGAINST FLESH AND BLOOD BUT AGAINST PRINCIPALITIES IN THE HEAVENLY REALMS❤ TRUST GOD HE LOVES YOU❤ GIVE GRACE GOD IS LOVE💕
Great documentary, I shared on my Facebook page. Keep up the good work x
Thank you so much!
This topic is HUGE.
I Watched this and cried, as so much of it resonated with me and my own past experiences. I cried because I see how God has carried me and healed me from the real trauma of 'church hurt' and being able to forgive..
My greatest trust and confidence now is solely in God and His word. There need to be spirit led leaders in fellowships, if they are not led by the spirit there will be problems. Watch and pray for the times are evil and many in the church are enemies of the cross.
Praying for every true believer in Jesus name!
Blessings & Peace 🙏🏾
@@bevdavy2380 🙏🏾🙏🏾Prayer for everyone who has experienced and currently experiencing church hurt.
Brave documentary. Wherever there are groups of people there will be offence, often that can be resolved. Church is not always euphoric. There are times where self reflection and conviction is uncomfortable. However abuse from others in the church context is a serious betrayal. The insecurities of some leaders (spiritual jealously) is certainly a barrier. We must listen to the true prophets as painful as their message is. The rejection experienced by some is horrendous. Great that young man went and apologised but the leader was not gracious enough to receive and do the same.
We have to do better when it comes to supporting married couples struggling. Biblical/professional is often the best course of action. But the True Church is real, we are the Church so heal and continue with the work.
This is the most practical thing i've seen in awhile.
This was a real and much needed documentary. I found it to be quite fair and unbiased, providing the right balance between recognising the difference between the church and God Himself. This was achieved through hearing from congregants as well as church leaders (like Bishop Mark) and those ex-communicated. A very well done.
Such a great and relevant film! I love the practical examples from Bishop Mark Nicholson.
We need to talk, we need to listen. Put pride aside and show empathy 💝
Sadly, if one is considering being a part of a local church, one has to do so in the knowledge one is joining in with a group of people who are very messed up. It is therefore necessary to be on your guard and to protect yourself from the ungodly behaviour of others. This can be very difficult, because it goes against our idea of what an ideal expression of the body of Christ should be. It is nothing new. It is as old as the very first churches in the New Testament. Some of the most painful church hurt I have experienced includes being unwelcomed and ostracised by envious and juvenile cliques, and having my communications and concerns ignored or casually dismissed by church leaders. Church needs to be a place of safety, not a place of do’s and don’ts. Our commandments come from the Lord, not from a local church culture. What is the answer? There are no easy answers except to say that we are not to model ourselves on the behaviour of others in the church - we are called to be transformed by God into the likeness of his character. To be like Jesus by his Spirit and not by our own efforts. To be gracious and forgiving. To speak the truth and to value it above personal loyalties. Sometimes, we need to walk away from those who would persistently hurt us. Do not allow yourself to be defined by others’ prejudiced and faulty opinions about you. Overall, remember that we do and will give an account of our character and actions to Jesus himself, and not to any of the people we meet (or who hurt us) along the way. Seek out true believers who wish to love and build each other up, and note that this may not (and probably will not) be in an established local “church”.
It's our one year anniversary of the documentary and we want to hear from you!
If you or anyone else you know has a story you would like to share, please get in contact with us at thereticentones@gmail.com or on Facebook - The Reticent Ones or IG - reticentones
When I think of church I think of a dangerous place.
Renew your mind with the BIBLE 😊 PSALMS 23
Great documentary
I understand this video is about Church,
And the people who have been hurt by those in it.
..... I could not read the bible for over 15 years:
Due to the way much in the NT had been distorted, and passages that were interpreted through quite misogynistic eyes.
My failing marriage was used as a Test Case example for other churches.
My life in a large sense was in the hands of the Elders.
I felt mostly powerless.
I ended up leaving.
I carried that hurt and pain for over two decades.
I felt I had forgiven those who hurt me.
I see, now, I have not.
And will very soon take it to my Father.
God bless
What helps to deal with this is to understand that God can help you love the sinner and hate the sin.
Ask the Holy Spirit to help you not lose out on your eternal reward due to hard feelings. As I speak to you, I speak to myself.
We are the church. We go to a building to meet other people.
Amen 🙏🏽🎚️
And when WE that are the church walk in the building for a meeting, it’s suppose to be a safe place. So WE ought to make the building/gathering a safe space.
very helpful is Dr. Les Carter on TH-cam, Dr. Ramine on youtube, and The Royal We by a Christian called Kevin also on TH-cam. Churches do not have people trained up to these standards.
Churches are clubs for the beautiful people.
This was a good!!!!!
The Bishop at the end is one of the reasons people leave .... he is trying to draw from the world " for the answers and not the example of Christ .
The minister at the end was correct about hurt and rehab
Man I’m about to make a documentary about Club Hurt and how I escaped the night life 😂.
I don't understand how you can have a perpetrater of diabolical church hurt in this video. A few of the people in this video are talking about the church hurt inflicted upon them by this same individual in their ministers garb! Is it meant to be ironic????
I know a few of the people in this video and the church leader in this video that inflicted so much pain. I am baffled at the choice of minister used to explain church hurt. All I can think is this is meant to be ironic.
perhaps the action transcends what we see... because God knows... and sometimes a person professes with their own mouth the damage of their wrongdoing... so that they will be held accountable to that higher degree before God... prophetic in a way
There is no such thing as church hurt 😮