When I commuted to work in Toronto in 1979, my train took me through the CP Agincourt Yard. As I looked out the window I saw gondolas laden with the burned-out tank cars from the Mississauga Train Disaster. Cheery start to the work week
The two Locomotives with three-digit road numbers are 'slugs'...these are locomotives with no diesel plant on-board. They get their electricity from the locomotives that they are coupled to...they have traction motors...just no diesel and no alternator.
so there are full body slugs on the railroad? the only slugs i seen are the ones that just look like the top half of the diesel locomotive was cut clean off lol
Derek Edmondson even more interesting is the reasoning behind slugs; that under low speeds the locomotive produces excess power. This could lead to wheelslip, but the extra motors add an outlet thus providing a higher starting tractive effort.
Collateralcoffee kind of a stupid response. It can be heartbreaking because there are people who care enough for these engines and enjoy seeing them on the railroad at work not torn up and destroyed. For some it's the same way watching a train quietly rust away.
William - Bill Kane..Good Video Sir....I live in Butler....I drive Truck and Im by this Yard almost Daily. I load on the other side of the river at Colona.
That's gotta be terrifying to the crew. They could have been in one of those locomotives and lost their life. I bet they were thinking, "Will I end up in a deadly crash like that someday?"
They could rebuild them, but the UP in particular has tons of locomotives just sitting out in the desert waiting to be used. They'll probably charge NS for the damages, pocket the money as profit, and grab another motor from the pile to replace it in service. They can also sell that damaged one as good quality scrap for even more money.
WOW - perfect candidates for customizing, souping up the engine, lift kits, beefier suspension, bigger all-terrain tires, and then take it to off-roading and rock climbing. AWESOME! What? Wait! OH, you can't do that with a diesel-electric train engine? Damn! Foiled Again.
Slugs are not commonly seen in some of the more flat areas but with some of the lines are running here in South Carolina it's not uncommon to see them running with slugs. And that is do to the fact that the terrain they're having operated and it's better to have the additional traction Motors to help break or to help accelerate.
I ve never seen Slugs of any type operating as in train power out of Conway . They were strictly hump power ,they usually only go past east Conway far enough to tie on a track to shove ! The guys walking alongside the fire damaged units appear to be NS Conway engine house supervisors ,pretty sure .
Moses Peralta, that's a former Conrail unit. You can see the areas where it had the characteristic markers lights for which Conrail units were known. ☺️
jomax clux Both units were rebuilt. From what I can tell the NS unit was repaired at Juniata and the UP unit appears to have been worked on at GE Erie them sent to Jenks in Little Rock AR. I didn’t dig deeper to find out what work was performed at each shop. Almost all of the locomotives UP had in storage are gone, as of 3 weeks ago I didn’t see a single locomotive on the storage tracks just outside Tucson. I have not researched to see what happened to them, but I also have not seen the stored locomotives in service or being moved. Aliens got them maybe. Lol
I think 3780 is not, or is a DPU at middle or rear of the train that have the accident. If they coupled together, it can't be intact while 5594 and 8402 damaged so bad.
Those were Slugs. Not real common. Usually made by the Railroad from older or damaged locomotives. Usually had Concrete Ballast to get the weight back from taking out the Prime Mover, Generator, and other Support equipment.
@@jappedut9009 thank you for reaching out. My apologies for not considering your origins. Denmark 🇩🇰 is a wonderful country. I visited years ago... I love it. The locomotives and trains are very interesting as well. Stay awesome. vær sikker og glad. Regards from Australia.
Kai Studios Official, Juniata will rebuild any loco, even if it’s from another company. There was a wreck in Georgetown, KY that involved a BNSF loco. They sent it to Juniata, they fixed it right up.
no... it was repaired in juniata and holidaysburg:facebook.com/altoonaworks/photos/a.389322700636.358874.222359370636/10156137296820637/?type=1&theater
Sorry but you do not walk with a train at 10 MPH little alone for 10 miles. 5 MPH is closer to walking speed. But even that is a very brisk walk. Average walking speed for humans is about 3.5 MPH. Don't believe it, try it with a GPS unit and see.
Misleading video name. Fire damaged, but more correctly damage was result of collision, so perhaps the word “Wreck” would be more appropriate. Also NS crew is watching, but I would use “NS locomotives move wrench and fire damaged UP Locomotive” or similar.
Hope there weren’t any injuries or death. Other than that it’s all about depreciation on taxes and cost of business. Nothing more..... there’s thousands of locos in storage on side tracks.
No semi did that. More likely a sideswipe collision with another locomotive to rip the side out of her like that. I’ve worked on locomotives that hit a semi and they come out of it with way less damage than that unless it was a propane tanker.
JT The Railfan I believe them to be SD40E's, the 3780 was the 3 rd unit in the consist. When they derailed the NS and leading UP unit here, they were reversed. The NS unit was the leading unit
Hope the crew was okay. I love the conductor (I would assume that's who he is) on 5660 with his phone out. What ever happened to the no cell phone rule? lol
TheVARailFan I believe the crew had no life threatening injuries. NS on the other hand needed to investigate along with the NTSB how the crew had run a signal. As to the cell phone use, I have no knowledge of NS policy
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+William - Bill Kane mechanical employees working within a shop facility can use them the railroad does provide cell phones to be used for business purposes
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I'd be in real good shape if I worked on the railroad! 😂 Kudos to the crew members for walking all that way!
That's loyalty,the crew have my respect,because that's a long walk.
Wow, super catch!! Those units were pretty toasted but glad to see them rebuilt and back in active service :)
When I commuted to work in Toronto in 1979, my train took me through the CP Agincourt Yard. As I looked out the window I saw gondolas laden with the burned-out tank cars from the Mississauga Train Disaster. Cheery start to the work week
UP 3780 doens't look damaged at all on the other side. It's so sad to see them like that.
The two Locomotives with three-digit road numbers are 'slugs'...these are locomotives with no diesel plant on-board. They get their electricity from the locomotives that they are coupled to...they have traction motors...just no diesel and no alternator.
so there are full body slugs on the railroad? the only slugs i seen are the ones that just look like the top half of the diesel locomotive was cut clean off lol
Derek Edmondson cool
Then why does it have a giant fuel tank on it like every other locomotive?
Derek Edmondson even more interesting is the reasoning behind slugs; that under low speeds the locomotive produces excess power. This could lead to wheelslip, but the extra motors add an outlet thus providing a higher starting tractive effort.
+ steve2k7 Filled with concrete for additional weight to aid traction usually.
If you look closely at the third unit you can see the rear step got damaged around 3:40
Wow, kinda heartbreaking to see the damaged locomotives.
That is kind of a stupid comment to make. How can that be heartbreaking???
Collateralcoffee kind of a stupid response. It can be heartbreaking because there are people who care enough for these engines and enjoy seeing them on the railroad at work not torn up and destroyed. For some it's the same way watching a train quietly rust away.
Antonio Jones the up 5594 is running, right now is helping me with the trian intermodal and doesn't look like it been in a accident
this thing happened in 2014...
Totally
A brisk walk is about 3 miles per hour. Running is about 10 miles per hour.
3mph isn't brisk. It's just ordinary not-fast, not-slow walking.
Too Norfolk Southern Engineer, The train rear ended a train which was stopped waiting for access to Conway Yard
William - Bill Kane bhb
William - Bill Kane..Good Video Sir....I live in Butler....I drive Truck and Im by this Yard almost Daily. I load on the other side of the river at Colona.
William - Bill Kane..Nice to see something local and close to home
@@Mr.XJ.96 u live in butler as well?
That's gotta be terrifying to the crew. They could have been in one of those locomotives and lost their life. I bet they were thinking, "Will I end up in a deadly crash like that someday?"
I want the horns off of one of those units....
lol me too
Galaxy2517 you can buy one at any truck stop or off ebay
Daniel Barry yes but they’re cheap knockoffs we have Nathan airchimes (5bell) on all our trucks and they sound way cooler than that truckstop garbage
@@MississippiMudMX can I install that set on my 2019 Ford F350 Super Duty? If so what's the kit number? Thanks!
Looks like the fire turned one UP loco into a NS, and was beginning to turn an NS locomotive into a UP, based on the colors.
+Blaine Bugaski Indeed, that 1 UP was quite burned up, but was recently released after a rebuild program I believe in Altoona.
Are these engines rebuildable? I've been told that as long as the frame is straight and not broken or cracked it is a candidate for rebuilding.
They could rebuild them, but the UP in particular has tons of locomotives just sitting out in the desert waiting to be used. They'll probably charge NS for the damages, pocket the money as profit, and grab another motor from the pile to replace it in service. They can also sell that damaged one as good quality scrap for even more money.
EMD yes ge most likely no
*"Following a derailment???" LOL That's an understatement...*
it will buff out
koto theantichrist UP maintenance be like phill get the duck tape and the super glue we got a loco to fix
duct tape
koto theantichris
Turtle Wax gives a hard shell shine !
Dale D Actually he's right. The original backing was cotton duck, hence the name.
I don't know if it's just me but at 1:33 the lights on the fire damaged Union Pacific were on!?!
Ethan they are
they do appear to be on
Ethan the locomotive was stunned. Probably a malfunction or they forgot to turn them off.
Reflection from the slugs lights in front of it. That engine has the wiring burnt to a crisp, no way the lights are working..
Must of got that thing up to 88mph when it blew up... (Back to future 3 reference)
The NS with full crew one month
to repair. UP looks like parts and scrap yard gets whats left of it
The UP locomotives remain in service and NS Dash 8-40CW 8402 was retired in 2020.
WOW - perfect candidates for customizing, souping up the engine, lift kits, beefier suspension, bigger all-terrain tires, and then take it to off-roading and rock climbing. AWESOME! What? Wait! OH, you can't do that with a diesel-electric train engine? Damn! Foiled Again.
I just had a mental image of one of these things off roading... It was funny!
you forgot jumping the Grand canyon 😆
A bunch of the old Union Pacific locomotives are working up in Canada now minus their decals.
I hope they fixed them up when they got there because they are nothing but poorly maintained POS's down here.
This is why I don't loan tools or vehicles to others.
I saw UP 5594 on NS 15T On january 2023.. Did not know it was included in a derailment.
Wow it looks like several of these locomotives are damaged... What caused the UP to go up in flames?
Derailed, ruptured fuel tank
Derailed, ruptured fuel tank
It was only today that my brain recognized a horse in the engine's logo. 😆
UP#3780 look great, not even a scratch.
Though it looks pretty good, the rear end of the locomotive got damage.
That's because EMD is better than GE :P
Actually, all 3 engines are still around
Is Conrail???
I didn't know the NS had road slugs, and they are done the same as the CSX. I've seen the road slugs of N&W back around 1980.
Here in the old PRR yard at Conway PA there are quite a few road slugs
Slugs are not commonly seen in some of the more flat areas but with some of the lines are running here in South Carolina it's not uncommon to see them running with slugs. And that is do to the fact that the terrain they're having operated and it's better to have the additional traction Motors to help break or to help accelerate.
I ve never seen Slugs of any type operating as in train power out of Conway . They were strictly hump power ,they usually only go past east Conway far enough to tie on a track to shove ! The guys walking alongside the fire damaged units appear to be NS Conway engine house supervisors ,pretty sure .
The diesel shop released that up locomotive to us and said it was "good to go". I kinda figure something was wrong when i kept feeling a draft.
That should buff right out.
@@549BR Turtle Wax and spit.
2:08 8402 looks like an ex Union Pacific locomotive
Moses Peralta, that's a former Conrail unit. You can see the areas where it had the characteristic markers lights for which Conrail units were known. ☺️
Damn. That UP 5594 got jacked up.
I think they are going to rebuild these locomotives.
jomax clux
Both units were rebuilt. From what I can tell the NS unit was repaired at Juniata and the UP unit appears to have been worked on at GE Erie them sent to Jenks in Little Rock AR. I didn’t dig deeper to find out what work was performed at each shop.
Almost all of the locomotives UP had in storage are gone, as of 3 weeks ago I didn’t see a single locomotive on the storage tracks just outside Tucson. I have not researched to see what happened to them, but I also have not seen the stored locomotives in service or being moved. Aliens got them maybe. Lol
Anything EMD SD70 or GE Dash 9 and later isn't going to get scrapped as long as it has a good frame.
Just needs to be buffed out 😁
Any damage to the sd70?
Howd that happen? Was the crew ok?
heard they were
Stupid engineer was running too fast on approaches and rear ended an intermodal. Engineer was later fired.
Good happy he got fired
That's a lot of fire damaged locos.
what happened?
First off I hope no one was hurt and I was wondering what they done with them.
Looks like a little more than fire damage on some of the engines.
That first UP unit was severely wrecked; I presume the fire resulted from the collision.
It derailed
I've forgotten. Were there any fatalities in that accident?
no
Wow those hybrids burn and pollute environment so often. Should go back to nice Geeps and SDs like those up front. Nice video.
Thank u
Did they scrap 5594 and 8402?
no, rebuilt
How far did they have to walk please
quite a few miles
Why did they not ride the train ?
Precision Railroading at its finest !!!
This was far before precision came to NS.
Exactly so don’t put PSR to this
NS 8402 looks like its been on its side ... were all 3 of these part of the same train?
I think 3780 is not, or is a DPU at middle or rear of the train that have the accident. If they coupled together, it can't be intact while 5594 and 8402 damaged so bad.
It's the first time l have seen 3 digit lokomotives
Three-digit locomotives are the bulk of what I see on CSX
Those were Slugs. Not real common. Usually made by the Railroad from older or damaged locomotives. Usually had Concrete Ballast to get the weight back from taking out the Prime Mover, Generator, and other Support equipment.
That's the first time I have seen locomotives spelt 'lokomotives' in a long time
@@GaryNumeroUno sorry I'm Danish
@@jappedut9009 thank you for reaching out. My apologies for not considering your origins. Denmark 🇩🇰 is a wonderful country. I visited years ago... I love it. The locomotives and trains are very interesting as well. Stay awesome. vær sikker og glad. Regards from Australia.
I was told they fill the fuel tanks on the slugs with something to give them weight for traction. I do not know what they are filled with.
Concrete, cheap and effective...
Live not to far from here. isn't one an RP E4C and another a GP40-2?
At that pace, that is going to be a long way home.
Headed to Juanita shops for rebuild?
Just 8402, not the UP locos.
Kai Studios Official, Juniata will rebuild any loco, even if it’s from another company. There was a wreck in Georgetown, KY that involved a BNSF loco. They sent it to Juniata, they fixed it right up.
man that sound!!
PotholesInMyLawn : 2 stroke turbocharged EMD locos
I love that Sound !
Were they scrapped?
Ethan the Railfanner no
probably
no... it was repaired in juniata and holidaysburg:facebook.com/altoonaworks/photos/a.389322700636.358874.222359370636/10156137296820637/?type=1&theater
The Jinx shop in NLR AR has repaired worse than that one.
True that shop as well as NS Juniata can fix anything that rolls on steel rails.
Poor things
Sorry but you do not walk with a train at 10 MPH little alone for 10 miles. 5 MPH is closer to walking speed. But even that is a very brisk walk. Average walking speed for humans is about 3.5 MPH. Don't believe it, try it with a GPS unit and see.
gravelydon tell that to foreman who called for the speed increase on the scanner
So does NS pay for the damages too the UP unit while on they rails or NS sends UP a bill saying hey ur MP derailed on our tracks you owes such amount?
Have no idea, they were rebuilt and returned, that I know!
To make a long story short they have insurance. It's not that simple but you get the idea.
William - Bill Kane LOTS AND LOTS OF MONDO-BONDO??.HAHAHA!!.
F7Aengineer Pretty standard lease agreement with all class 1 railroads. You break it you fix it.
i just love how the UP engines black while the NS engine has some yellow.
Um, that's not yellow, that's rust...
You ruined the moment
Jesus Christ, I hope that engineer was alright. Side of that cab was fucked...
Misleading video name. Fire damaged, but more correctly damage was result of collision, so perhaps the word “Wreck” would be more appropriate. Also NS crew is watching, but I would use “NS locomotives move wrench and fire damaged UP Locomotive” or similar.
Were those UP engines scrapped?
And the NS?
no, rebuilt
@@wfkane2005 oh ok
The last one doesn't look very damaged
Hope there weren’t any injuries or death. Other than that it’s all about depreciation on taxes and cost of business. Nothing more..... there’s thousands of locos in storage on side tracks.
what the hell happened?
rear ended another train
@@wfkane2005 well he got a ticket then for following to close 😁.
I like train videos on TH-cam 😁
Reparation or no more service?
How did that thing catch on fire? 😳😟
Not sure
Nice NS action!
Man, what a huge mess it was!!
These locomotives were involved in a collision, likely with a semi truck, with the damage to the first locomotive.
No semi did that. More likely a sideswipe collision with another locomotive to rip the side out of her like that. I’ve worked on locomotives that hit a semi and they come out of it with way less damage than that unless it was a propane tanker.
rear ended another train
Railhead ??
Was 8402 NS burned in the front or what was that, that got onto the front?
Ok
Did they scrap it or remake it?
xxMineVSCraftxx Gaming & Railfanning I heard they were send to the shops for rebuilds/repairs
The cab was repaired and 8402 is back in service
Ello Tri lol
I think it derailed and the nose got all scraped up and it rusted.
How did that happened??
rear end collision
That will buff out.
rare footage of coffee pulling me throughout the day
Interesting catch.
thanks
You are very welcome.
Why does the Union Pacific have side damage?
it fell on its side
NS6677 Thank you and I did some research and found this out
No problem. That unit was actually repaired in Hollidaysburg. Not far from Altoona on Contract with NS
What happened?
Trains went boom!
polish and fine steel wool can remove scratches
Don't forget the Armor All......lol
Uh oh. Better get Maaco.
+wolfgang548 There back in Service
Oh. I guess they already got Maaco.
Wow that's a heck of a video it's a shame to see that nice shot
Thanks
Wow, I can't imagine how many millions each of those logos cost, fortunately they are insured up the wazoo!.
Probably not, most big railroads self insure.
I hope no one was injured
I believe there were injuries
They had minor injuries
Looks like a sideswipe to me hitting a train that’s not in the clear looks like a signal violation at a interlocking
some severe damage to the side of the first one
UP 5594 after rebuild: facebook.com/altoonaworks/photos/a.389322700636/10156137296820637/?type=1&theater
I don't think they're gonna repair that damaged up because look at it
they repaired them all
Fire damage? Looks like a wee bit more than just fire damage to that up loco.
Scarey for the engineer to see another train looming up and bam! Hope ok
WOW. The 3708 engine didn't look to bad but still a little damaged. Are those sd40e's pulling them?
JT The Railfan I believe them to be SD40E's, the 3780 was the 3 rd unit in the consist. When they derailed the NS and leading UP unit here, they were reversed. The NS unit was the leading unit
+William - Bill Kane 3036 & 3041 are GP40-2s. 4 axle Locos. SD would mean 6 axle. 720 &721 are RP-E4C (slugs)
JT The Railfan ...too.
my grand parents lived in leetsdale right along the tracks,,,many years ago
I hope the trains aren't getting towed at a shop for scrap
i wish i could get more photos of cabless locomotives
Notwithstanding this locomotive being involved in an accident, GE locos are notorious for catching on fire.
at least EMD SD70M UP 3780 survived
5594, ugh,... what a mess,...
Hope the crew was okay. I love the conductor (I would assume that's who he is) on 5660 with his phone out. What ever happened to the no cell phone rule? lol
TheVARailFan I believe the crew had no life threatening injuries. NS on the other hand needed to investigate along with the NTSB how the crew had run a signal.
As to the cell phone use, I have no knowledge of NS policy
+William - Bill Kane mechanical employees working within a shop facility can use them
the railroad does provide cell phones to be used for business purposes
The crew on the cell phones was the local job switching the industrial spur.
I have no way of knowing whether NS allows the practice
thanks
TheVARailFan if you're outside the cab you can use your phone.
Whoa, those guys were earning their $$!
Holy crap that's bad.
They have already been rebuilt in Altoona
3780 was not involved.
It was off the rails
Are those knuckleheads gonna walk all the way to the yard???