Why Miguel Diaz continues to Evolve - Character Analysis/Theory
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- From bowing out of a tournament to finding out about his father, and putting his rivalry with Robby to rest, Miguel has had an awesome journey thus far! This is why Miguel Diaz continues to evolve.
0:00 Intro
0:34 Recap of Miguel's arc in Seasons 4 and 5
5:12 Miguel's need for a Father
14:35 Relationship and Rivalry with Robby
19:41 Relationship with Sam
24:15 Miguel's fights at the 51st All-Valley
25:28 Final Thoughts and Future
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What do you think it's in store for Miguel in Cobra Kai Season 6?
Hopefully Like in Season 5 his back is stronger than ever. I hope he doesn’t hurt it again. I want him to get training from Chozen. I hope he learns the offensive Style of Miyagi Doo. And miyagi do secrets, I hope Dainel trains him too in whatever he knows possibly Kata and other techniques we don’t know of. I hope he gets training from Mike Too. I think he will learn all these and become the best fighter on their side.
I believe Anything in S6 is possible fr, they could Literally go any route and we wouldn't expect it, but what I Expect and think is in S6 most likely is that Anthony And Kenny will be top 5 eventually and I believe someone will be taught the secrets and/or full arsenal of Daniel and Chozen or something similar to it, like Miguel or Tory learning the different ways of defense by Chozen.
I see Miguel as the modern day Daniel and Robby as the modern day Johnny.
@@samueli7759 yup . Notice in their fighting too , Robby seem to always been a naturally offensive fighter while Miguel always was naturally a counter fighter
@@ccl7983 I agree. Not to mention Robby has constantly been compared to Johnny. Whereas Miguel quickly bonded with Daniel cos his upbringing is similar to Miguels current state.
Agreed
Both are hybrids but I feel like its a bit of the opposite.
@@victorphan6274 Miguel’s character in the first season 1 was always kinda like what if Daniel joined cobra Kai during the first karate kid . Miguel essentially is a redeemed Johnny Lawrence with the qualities and Charisma of Daniel Larusso
I low key wouldn’t be mad if him or Robby wins the seikai taikai . They are both the karate kids of this generation , they are the perfect mixture of Daniel and Johnny .
Agreed
I agree
Both deserve to win for the journey of healing both went through but I wish Robby get one big win as his conclusion, both Miguel and Hawk win a tournament so Robby is the next one that should win!
😢@@cannabishornliu6119
No Miguel is
Idk if it’ll happen, but I want Miguel to win. This show started with Johnny and Miguel and that’s how i hope it ends
I'm personally pulling for Robby. He needs a W.
I won't lie.... that scene with Miguel and a Drunk Johnny hurt a lot.
It did I didn't cry but I just felt like I was hurt.
@@ikedatike2533 same. It was a sucker punch.
Agreed
I really enjoyed Miguel’s dynamic with Daniel in S4 with them bonding over their similar upbringings and Daniel relating to Miguel’s insecurities in having a single mother going out on dates and not having a real father around
Yh, since season 1, Miguel was basically Daniel but just under Johnnys teachings
@@imtiyazyasir23He's the perfect balance between Johnny and Daniel.
@@dragonfire4527
Daniels backstory + Johnnys fighting = Miguel
@@imtiyazyasir23 elements of Johnny's backstory + his fighting skills.
@@pepito2847 agreed the dynamic between Daniel and Miguel were amazing
I love this video man! Miguel is such an underrated character in the show who is misunderstood a lot of times because of his injury and how that physically and mentally affected him shortly after, people say in previous seasons like seasons 1 and 2 that Miguel was better in those seasons because they took place before his injury and now people call him "nerfed" because he cannot fight like how he previously did or handles certain situations emotionally when it came to Johnny as a father figure, finding his actual father and Sam breaking up with him. But people don't realize that through his injury, we saw growth and maturity in his overall character, recovering from his injury to further learning and balancing his skills in Myagi-Do, and making amends with Robby. Miguel has proven to be the heart of this show since the first season, seeing his arcs from seasons 1 to 5 has been such a treat to watch and I'm pumped to see how they conclude his character in the final season.
Ik to some I was "yapping" but that was genuinely my overall analysis on his character
Thank you!
I wouldn’t say he’s underrated
@@Fancast100-wj4fu Well your entitled to your own opinion but IMO, he's one of the most underrated characters of the show.
@@RedBlockFilms how is he underrated? I’ve read comments on TH-cam that make Miguel overrated
@@Fancast100-wj4fu Underrated in terms of characterization. There is a lot of misunderstanding or jaded views on the character by both ppl who like the character or don't.
Personally love his arc but mannnn I can’t help but think about how his story would’ve been if he didn’t get nerfed
"There is beauty in the struggle" - J. Cole
He's literally stronger it's not really a nerf
He did get nerfed, they just gave more characters the spotlight showing their strength in the right way! Miguel is still that guy to handle a final boss!!!
I can imagine during the sakai taiki final in Cobra Kai Season 6 Miguel gets injured but then chozen steps in and uses the Miyagi hand healing technique on Miguel and returns to fight in the tournament and ends up winning his 2nd trophy for the sakai taiki by doing the krane kick similar to how daniel won in karate kid 1&3.
That'd be an interesting ending!
I really love how watching this video made the show better for me. Good stuff!!!
Thanks so much, huge compliment!
He is the chosen one for this story, and he's the who will defeat Kwon
Love u Stryfe, always look forward to these CK videos 😎
Thanks for tuning in!
Top 3 or my number 1 fav cobra kai associated yter, not only because your great at layin out the details of life from each character, but bc you also notice details telling us how good they r as a fighter, a person and at each point to a certain extent, and makes the story that much more able to be appreciated. ima say this rn u would be a Extremely Great Ck Debater.
Thanks, that means a lot!
Miguel is definitely one of the more "normal" people on this show. especially after season 4 and 5.
And I do hope there isn't one winner for the sekai taikai, I've always wanted it to be team based. So like 4v4's, 2v2's etc. And I'd love Miguel and Robby to team up and win it together. There's too many main teens in this show for there to be one winner.
That's a good point.
How could you show the olive garden scene without hyping up the unlimited pasta bowl or how delicious their breadsticks are? There's no better place to settle disputes than in an olive garden!
If you take a picture of him and sam in the restaurant of season 6 you’ll see he looks like Billy loomis
Oh snap!
I mean with new set leaks and hints. Its shown miguel will become captain even if robby became the captain
This is possibly because Robby might have gotten injured during the sekai tekai
What are some of the leaks?
Robby needs to win the Sekai Taikai
Honestly, I want Robby to win, too.
@@StryfetheWarriorhim or Miguel
@@StryfetheWarriorhonestly Robby winning the Sekai Takai is pointless I know he needs 1 W but in S4 he realised that karate is not about winning tournaments but rather growing through karate and finding a way to fight for yourself and a style that is your own. imo him winning a sekai tekai ruins his S4 arc, honestly I would rather have neither win but they manage to stop cobra Kai, Miguel winning is okay but for me that would be less preferable than the aforementioned scenario
It would be nice if Robby did win since he's gotten second place in both all valley tournaments
@@imtiyazyasir23he should win be as he didn’t win before that’s bad writing. I think he should be the new guy in cobra Kai
What makes you think he will lead the dojo by example, what makes him stand out as a leader from others like Sam or Robby
His emotional maturity , as a fighter , he’s already the best , but he’s the most level headed , but I can see Robby being the leader too
Being able to put grudges behind him, being open-minded, not afraid to speak out what he thinks is right or wrong (even against both Kreese and Johnny), and his heart.
My video (and previous ones) pretty much describe all of that 🤷♂️
Miguels is these generations karate kid. Its also cool to see a series where to protagonist doesnt have to be the winner all the time. Yeah hes the best and the otbers know it too but that doesnt mean miguel has to be at the centre of every conflict and he doesnt always have to be the champ. Its great to see. I will be bummed if miguel doesnt win in the end but either way the character jounrey and how the show runners and writers handle him is really cool
100%
Miguel still.needs to wear jonnnys gi he started this and should finish it
That would be cool. I think the thing is that it most likely wouldn't happen if it's a Cobra Kai gi.
Hector biological father, Johnny Lawrence "real" father
"He may have been your father, boy... but he wasn't your daddy. I'm sorry I didn't none of it right... I'm damn lucky you're my boy." - Johnny Lawrence
Ofc he’s the chosen one
What are your top three seasons of Cobra Kai, if you have favorites?
Hard to pick honestly. I would say Season 1 would definitely be in one of those spots for sure.
@@StryfetheWarrior Season One is definitely my favorite, it’s a perfect parallel to the original Karate Kid, followed by Season 4, and Season 5.
5,4,1
Please do a video for Robby next
That one drops tomorrow!
Miguel's story arcs so far:
Season 1: Wimpy kid turned All Valley Champion
Season 2: IMB SAD ABOUMT SAM 😭
Season 3: Comeback from a life-threatening injury
Season 4: Broadening his perspective by learning from Daniel
Season 5: Resolution with his father, Robby and Sam
Dear @Stryfethewarrior please can you do a video for the hawk 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
Dropping next Sunday (the 14th)! Keep in mind since he had a smaller role in Season 5, the video won't be long. I talked about what I could with him but I also didn't want to just stretch out for the sake of time.
what would have happened if carmen moved to a different place besides cali
While he is not the best written & best developed of the teens, Miguel is mainly my favorite character because of his relatability, kind heart, fun personality, charm, charisma, & by far the best acted character of the teens. As a fighter, he's a Bad-@$$ & personally, I think he is the Best Fighter Of The Teens despite no longer being the Underdog. He's a Former Underog who remained a Bad-@$$ Top-Dog who is able to balance CK & MD in a similart fashion to Robby, whom he is equal to (I give the slight edge to Miggy) I love his relationship with Johnny as it mirrors Johnny & Kreese while also being The CK/EF interpretation/reconstruction of Daniel & Miyagi. Much like Robby, Miguel hybrids & emulates from both Daniel (personality) & Johnny (his primary parralel journey wise & in spirit). Miguel definilty works as the redeemed Johnny 2.0/Daniel In CK reconstruction. I also love his relationship with Sam (as VERY flawed as it is) as his chemistry with Sam is wholesome & at times heartfelt. They defintely pay homage to the chemistry Daniel & Ali have while being the redeemed version of Johnny & Ali when it comes to the stability of their relationship. My main negative with Miguel is that he is a bit entitiled, lacks some empathy, & hasnt taken FULL accountability in terms of his actions when it comes to his rivalry with Robby & him being stagnant in terms of growth for the last 2 recent seasons. But overall, despite the criticisms in regards to Miguels flaws is valid, he is overly villified in the most unesscary ways possible. They have 1 final season to give Miguel the most bad-@$$ way to end on in terms of his Johnny 2.0 Ex-Degenerate Arc.
Hes not an irredeemable sadistic @$$hole who will never grow as many pesstmistic & terribly cynical fans on here are spewing out in their own bitter & pathetic drivel. S6 has gotta have Miguel escape Johnny's Shadow (while still keeping their relationship), have him take accountability in all his past actions, have him fight for something bigger than himself, & have him step up as a Boyfriend to Sam. Miguel's Character Arc should end with him giving it his all in the ST & taking a Honorable a loss like a True Bad-@$$ in The ST (like Vegeta in The Tournament Of Power) like a Champ while potentially winning sponsors to safeguard his future when it comes to his education & college. Miguel was always meant to be better than Johnny back in 84 & it would be a nice for him to take a Humble Loss while also gifting Robby the Trophy like Johnny did for Daniel along with supporting/rooting for his girl Sam if she wins The Female-Division as redemption for not being there for his Bae in S4. Plus, it would be super satisfying for Miguel to pay homage to Daniel in KK2 by facing a returning Hector in a real-life death battle in a similar fashion to that of Daniel VS Chozen while defending his family & loved ones in a final showdown after Robby wins The ST. I'll still very proud of my boy Miguel if he doesnt win as narratively Robby makes the most sense to win. Miguel will always be Bad-@$$ regardless. Regardless both boys (Miguel & Robby) are great characters & as people. At this point, its just a petty d\*\*k measuring contest. The criticisms regarding Miguel's lack of growth & accountability in the recent season is valid as I as a Miguel Fan has called him out in certain things & Miguel fans for being overly bias & unreasonable but some Miguel haters take it to the extreme to vilify him in the most unesscary way. Doesn't Matter If it's trolling, it still came out of bitterness & malice. There are users that claim that they don't hate Miguel & accuses his fans for not wanting him to grow or change (I do obviously) but the comments prove otherwise as they villify him disproportionately & unreasonably to the point that it feels like a hateboner. Miguel deserves to be criticized on alot of things including Johnny but villifying is petty bitterness. He does lack empathy sometimes, is a bit entitled, & is a bit protected by the writers I'll admitt but it doesn't mean he's this irredeemable malicious abuser as some says he is & neither is Johnny (though I do criticize his treatment & lack of effort when it comes to Robby). Both Miguel & Robby ain't perfect, sinless, or saints by any means. They are just flawed good kids.
If people actually think Miguel is worse or irredeemable that he is like his father or the worst version of Johnny, then they are high as hell. Miguel, at his worst, is a Flawed But Honorable Anti-Hero Typical Arch-Rival like Vegeta. Miguel definitely deserves sympathy but cutting him slack for how he is with Robby & his relationship issues is on him. We can't always coddle him. In conclusion, At his best, Miguel is a flawed bad-@$$ good hearted Protagonist/Deuteragonist but he needs to step up & take more accountability because he is not innocent nor a Saint when it comes to the conflicts in this show.Its reasons like "Miguel is a Gaslighting Abuser" is why I left the subreddit. I feel bad for the amount of former redditors who joined the discord because of the amount of brain-cells they lost hearing some Bitter Fans drivel. Miguel does have alot of negative tendencies (Gaslighting included) but that should not define who he can be now. I too am a bit underwhelmed by the lack of character development from both Miguel & Johnny since S3. Hell, I even call out Miguel & Johnny fans for being heavilly bias. Robby Fans do have valid criticisms & to a degree, I understand, empathize, & respect their views. But there are some (alot) that have a severe warped view of Miguel that is often times disproportionate & unreasonable. So don't let them get to you. Let's just hope Miguel WILL develop in the final-season. To quote Daniel in S1 "He's not a Monster. He's just a guy with alot of demons". Miguel does deserve to be criticized but not overly vilified.
Miguel's character arc & purpose is more about being a better man than Johnny was, him not following under the shadow/footsteps of Johnny's past behaviors as a teen, & balancing his love life with Sam in which Johnny failed with Ali. Another is Miguel also playing a major part in giving Johnny purpose & a roadmap to his redemption. Yes, Miguel & Johnny are essentially Daniel & Miyagi to one another but its very apparent that Miguel's Character Arc is being a redeemed Johnny. In terms of "Main Teen Character" Miguel, Robby, & Sam share that title equally. Miguel is merely advertised as "The One Main Teen" but its clear, he shares that with Sam & Robby as a Trio. Miguel's Character doesnt depend on a Tournament Victory either as shown in S4. Miguel has already proven that he has redeemed himself & is already a Champ by heart by beating his injuries in S3 & fighting like honorable bad-@$$ compared to 1x10 going forward. Both Miguel & Robby are equally not dependent of the tournament win & both are deserving of it. By the end of this Miguel's Real Trophy is Sam. With both boys parrelleling elements of Daniel, one of them is getting that girl at the end & the other, the final tournament trophy & I dont think 1 is getting both. Im justs saying, its more preferable for the 2 characters who emulates elements of Daniel to have a Half/Half & Win/Win for both boys. Miguel's Trophy is Sam as his Ali (something Daniel & Johnny never achieved) & Robby getting The Tournament Win as a parrelel reverse of his father & homage to Daniel. Both Different versions of the Karate-Kids getting a win. Sam is considered to be this generation's Ali & Miguel did what Daniel & Johnny couldnt as a fusion of both men.
LMAO this is the first time I've seen the Cobra Kai subreddit's vilification of Miguel be called out on another platform. I was initially intrigued by the different perspectives and rightful criticism of the fan favorites.
However the rants started to drift away from criticism and became biased rants while overanalyzing negative traits and making him out to be this narcissistic gaslighter with no redemptive qualities.
It's mostly Miguel but Johnny and Hawk often get the same treatment while Robby and Tory are put on pedestals ironically enough.
@@crowwithinternetservice I love Both Miguel & Robby as characters. Im mainly Non-Bias when it comes to Miguel being my favorite character as Miguel's past actions in S1 & 2 not being addressed & the lack of accountability when it came to Miguel starting thr rivalry with Robby & escalating the school-fight. But I hate that he is overly villified & downplayed as a character as a result of this to the point that some believe him to be either a stagnant Gary-Stu or a Gaslightet who was never meant to grow as a character despite all evidence to the contrary that he has grown (though it couldve been illustrated better). Miguel has flaws that are admittedly overlooked & should be callled out upon. Miguel is a good hearted character who deserved to be criticized to a degree but not sadistically villified & same goes for Robby.
Do you think Miguel's biological father will return ?
Hard to say. His theory of his father returning is plausible, but the arc would have to be well-written
@@StryfetheWarrior Yeah, I don't think that's necessary.
He did in season 5
I mean apart from the fact that Hector is the embodiment of "He may be your father, but he's not your daddy." What else could he bring ?
@@StryfetheWarriorCobra Kai Karate (he's also a Cobra Kai fan and TH-camr) he would throw a fit if Hector Salazar returned 😂😆.
I think it would be best if Robbie wins the Sakai Takai tournament. Bc Robbie has been in Johnny's shadow, probably his whole life. Especially since he decided to learn karate, enter and failed on two occasions to win the all valley. What better way to step out of your father's shadow then to win a tournament your father never competed in?
I'm pulling for Robby too.
3:49 And people say Miguel doesn't go through any growth at all.. lmao
Just wait, I tried to cook in this video 👀
@@StryfetheWarrior As you always do!
Wym robby misunderstanding kenny and hawk? Hawk purposely bumped into Kenny.
Not really. I explained this in a previous video.
@@StryfetheWarrior which video? No hope for Robby?
@@StryfetheWarrior sorry man, but I don't see how you can defend hawk and the other 2. Hawk purposely stood behind Kenny and they all started surrounding him. It wouldn't have ended well if Robby didn't see them
It’s kinda funny how Johnny is more like the master splinter with how he has 3 students and one baby on the way it’s funny how this line up to those types
Miguel/Leo
Robby/Raphael
Eli/Donny
Now the baby I think that is funny
I think he needs more development honestly kinda think they blew it
LOL what are you even on about. He got the most development and most consistent development at that in the show.
@@hartfantom did he? What came of his karate journey and his injuries? I get what you’re saying it just feels incomplete
@ivancastro365 That's why he's the one to win this tournament. He's been up and down since season 2. He's absolutely the best character, but he was pulled back to let others be built up.
@@rawtruth78 I hope you’re right
I think Miguel won't win the sekai tekai because I think he will fight something even more worth than a trophy which is his family as I have theory that his father will come back and more cause chaos for his family which will probably force Miguel out of the tournament which will probably create lessons that you can use karate for much greater things instead of winning tournament's
Yeah for his father to come back it'd have to be a well-written arc. I could somewhat see this happening, with Johnny getting roped in.
i love this vid abt me i will win the seki teki mark my words
Robby has never won against Miguel. Including the season 2 finale fight. Miguel showed him mercy after putting him in a shoulder lock
Miguel did have the upper hand, yes, but Robby was the one left standing. Robby also defeated Miguel in the Season 4 Prom Fight.
That's like saying Chozen won the fight against Silver cause he had the upper hand. Ultimately, Silver got him with a sneak attack and won.
@@StryfetheWarrior not comparable. Robby has lost 2 all valley tournaments and the last fight against Miguel. Let him win the tekkai
In season 4, Robby defeated Miguel in the prom fight
@@imtiyazyasir23 not an important fight
@@Blaha_the_Welfare_SLAVEit still counts as a fight between Robby and Miguel
Miguel is the chosen one he learns how to improve himself to become person & he is perfect balance of Daniel true way in peace & balance also he had Johnny way aggressive & doing things his own way.
19:43
Miguel and Sam were so cute in season 1, after that they went downhill because then their relationship became a joke because they have nothing in common besides karate and an octopus in the later seasons
Yeah I hope we get some more development for sure.
Robby and Tory have nothing in common besides bad tampers and karate
people who think robby is a better written character than miguel dont understand writing
They're both well-written characters. People can like who they want to like.
@@StryfetheWarrior it’s not ab who u like here it’s ab who’s more well written. That’s more of an objective than a subjective thing.
it makes sense for the character arcs for Miguel to win
We shall see!
he didnt give his real dad a chance
Nah, his Dad was way worse than others.
I wish Miguel tell his dad he is son
Not sure if it would've made much difference
I need a Robby video I’m tired of the Miguel glaze… Robby is the true karate kid… the blood of Johnny Lawrence and Miyagi do at heart and the first student of Miyagi do
That's dropping later today!
@@StryfetheWarrior 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Both Miguel & Robby are the New KK. There is no longer "Only One" between the 2 like it was for Daniel. Miguel is a new, fresh & different KK under CK/EF while Robby is more traditional under MD as he is trained by The OG (Daniel). Both of them are like The Yin & Yang/Perfectly Balanced. Miguel is The Bad-@$$ & Robby is The Underdog.
Like early Miguel better. All new characters have outshined him
Thanks for the comment
Miguel has been boring since S4, and that’s my unbiased opinion!
Nice oxymoron