Horn of Fury or Karauk's War drums? [Rise of Kingdoms]

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[@quincyyuen9058]

3 drums actually like 5 horns and gives you the ability to run other accessories

[@ytzytz2]

not quite. 3 drum is like 2.5 random horns that you cant control whom gets what.

[@68Busdriver]

3 drums give you the average rage of a little less than 3 horns because of the 3 sec. Cooldown

[@ladrelimon5556]

Yep drago has a video dedicated to this subject.. 3 drums performs comparable to 5 horns

[@Al-ze6uo]

​​​@@ladrelimon5556I have just watched his video too see look at his math... and he never said that😅
He did say that both are about the same strength, but would recommend to rather invest in dagger and web instead of either one😂😂

[@corndog5667]

​​​I disagree. Your missing info. The drums buff stacks and the cooldown is per drum. That makes a big difference.

[@ytzytz2]

i am in kvk2. i tested alex in v formation mode. It has a drum and an inf talent dagger. In tower mode, they both trigger. Once i get to soc, i will use margarette/cor. Bab/Gaj. and Sciopio/martel. the scipio will debuff health by 6.5% and give rage to mar and bab (ie scipio will be in tower mode, situated next to the other two towers.

[@zestfanboy3188]

IMO for field specialists, i would get 5 drums and 5 horns. On the field it’s just a matter of being able to cast your active skills first as quickly as possible then pull back. Rings are overrated for field players as there’s very small chance it triggers on the turn the active skill is casted. Meanwhile drums are underrated as they essentially always guarantee your marches to cast your active skills first, thus allowing you to either being able to run away before enemies’ skills trigger or at least weaken their troop count a lot so their skill damage does less damage than yours. This combination works best for marches with high march speed.

[@wellackchyually]

i use 2 drums and a horn, with the horn on ZL herman. then i run a dagger and moras web with a ring on every march. sometimes i swap out the moras web for another horn but this is what im running rn

[@davidw.5185]

I run three drums in the field for five marches. I do have an extra horn. I use it for my engineering march. I built the drums two years ago following Drogothein's video advice. It seems to work well. I will be doing another horn for a 2nd engineering march.

[@muhammadrusydi1001]

I have the same issue as well

[@corndog5667]

Bonus info: drums buff stack and the cooldown is per drum not march.

[@ragingomen2248]

Ooo great info. One question thought; for a scipio/Liu march should your second accessory after ring, of course, be dagger or greatest glory, cause horn isn’t necessarily needed on that march due to Lius expert and the support tree giving so much rage

[@68Busdriver]

I’m using greatest glory. That and a ring and it averages out to about 10% more all damage on average for that march which is crazy

[@ragingomen2248]

@@68Busdriver thank you! 😁

[@denis-mf3cx]

20 less legendary mats for karuak 🤷‍♂️

[@denis-mf3cx]

And karuak blueprints available outside of kvk shop

[@ragingomen2248]

@@denis-mf3cx that wasn’t even an option, nor was I going to use either ring or KARAUK 😭😭

[@Fiulius]

There is actually another reason why drums is probably worse, which comes into play if you run multiple drums. Because there is a chance that one march receives rage from multiple drums in the same turn, you are more likely to hit the rage cap, in which case you would actually gain less rage overall. To be fair though this will probably not happen very often, but especially if you run a lot of drums (like five or six maybe) this will reduce the value of drums compared to horn as well.

[@quincyyuen9058]

Drums are better for a kd where you can buff everyone in your ball

[@KaidouGamePlay]

wdyd inrl bus? now im curious with all the books behind you

[@68Busdriver]

I own a gym

[@joaomarcoslouro1424]

​@@68Busdriver First time i Saw your face i thought you were like a PE teacher i had

[@alexmaioo1]

some1 tested it, 5 vs5, no equips but with only horn and drum. its the same. its being tested a serveral time. if u want to do 1vs1, of course its horn.

[@68Busdriver]

Mathematically it’s not the same. The cooldown literally swings it in the horn’s favor. Also if you’re down to 2 or 1 March in the 5v5 the horn is just going to provide more value

[@bloodyraptor2]

I think you shouldn’t compare 1 drum vs 1 horn. Compare 3 drum, dagger, Web to 5 horns …. Drums are for field and murderball not single march duels. When comparing what they do for whole murderball you see their value not for single march. Great video though not much discussion on this other than you and Drago.

[@68Busdriver]

3 drums, 1 dagger and 1 web
You’d gain 1/3 the rage compared to the 5 horns and you’d get the debuff of the dagger/web.
Which one would you take?

[@bloodyraptor2]

@@68Busdriver I’ll keep the drums in murderball, for ruins , rally, garrison I’ll use horn

[@Luda0978]

Can we just use the both of them SUPER RAGE

[@68Busdriver]

Nah you’ll over rage when they both trigger. Better to just run a ring with it instead

[@OMW2FYBIRL]

Isn’t that what Yar does? Haha

[@68Busdriver]

@@OMW2FYBIRL ha I’d believe it