The frustrating thing is under the Triple H era, it feels like you are rewarded for following the little details, for knowing the "lore" behind storylines, for keeping up with the continuity. Whenever The Rock shows up though, continuity goes right out the window so it becomes "Why care about the details then if Rock can just come along and retcon whatever he feels like away?"
Exactly. Because the new-age WWE neckbeard fans will just do whatever Papa H tells them to do and think - most current WWE fans are non-thinking mouth-breathers that will just think whatever their daddy (HHH) tells them to. Not allowed to criticize HHH and just "let him cook" even though he drags out storylines for months too long, as weekly shows become boring. The current WWE product is a bore and most WWE "TH-camrs" are too afraid to be honest and say how bad the current product is. Shows like Monday's RAW and the Saturday "Main Event" are prime examples of that - just essentially "house shows" they put on TV for "new fans". How about the current "hardcore" fans? WWE is bought and run by corporate partners like Netflix and all the sponsors you say all over the ring Monday. WWE is cooked. The product stinks.
You were right. I thought to myself when I seen his daughters "ohhh noooo he is going to turn heel" and he broke my spirit. I thought he was coming back to set up his wrestlemania match but the dirt sheets were right earlier this year. They all said they talked to higher ups in wwe and they said he's not wrestling. Oh well I hope they do roman vs cm punk and cena vs cody instead, but I was really hoping to see rock wrestling at mania again this year. He only cares about money. He doesnt give 2 sh*ts about the wrestling fans and never did since he left in 2002. This guy is a total a**hole.
What ride would that be? Rock will be gone until 2026. Thats not a ride. Now if you mean the bullsh*t is the ride then yeah I get it lol I wish rock would've never even come back in 2024 now. He just sold out big deal. To completely ignore and undo everything they build in one night is so disrespectful to the fans. Rock simping to cody, roman, and the fans makes me sick.
Storywise, they have an out for Rock being the way he was that night. He brings it up in the promo...his title of High Chief and his respect for samoan tradition. AS high Chief he did what was expected...he crowned Roman Reigns after he won tribal combat, but also gave respect to the man who stood up and helped his family. (Remember in between the beatdown/roman loss and Raw....Cody stood with Roman in his fight.) Its basically the calm before the storm....because eventual the pass Cody got for helping, will fall and Roman will likely be told to fall in line. Every great heel knows when its time to play politics....and when it's time to bring out the knife. They made it as clear as they could, for what was a very obvious situation........NOT YET but it will come.
I think people missed his NXT promo lol. Final Boss is definitely still around. He seems to be more of an anti hero than straight up heel but a lot of that too is he needed to be a face so casuals and corporate would respond well. NXT Rock was back to not caring and at least for me made it feel like he has respect for both Roman and Cody in kayfabe but can still turn at any second.
@@kddillard5711 I think that’s stupid tho. If you hate someone so much you don’t just give him praise, tell his mom to say hi and then the next day say “It’s all part of my plan!”. Why would you let your enemy know that you’re 10 steps ahead? You just told him that publicly. Sounds like he wanted to course correct it on NXT but it didn’t really work tho
@@crappyposts3477 yeah it a weird direction they’re taking it it still kinda seemed like they were teasing us on raw how they had rock behind Roman for so long. Everytime he turned around I was expecting a rock bottom. I believe the rock had the idea to scrap the Cody and Roman rivalry but when he got so much backlash after raw because he basically ruined the show for a lot of us, he’s now trying to make us think he’s playing a role. I think in the time between bad blood and now he decided he doesn’t want to wrestle anymore but he sees how upset everyone got about it and now he’s trying to please us because that’s important to him.
@@kddillard5711 he didnt say anything even remotely close to setting up a match with cody or anyone else. he is just bsing the fans like he always does. hes not wrestling at wrestlemania. he wont come back until 2026 if even then.
@ he did say “the rock is the final boss thinking 20 steps ahead so know your role and shut your mouth” when he was addressing fans mad about him being friends with Cody
I expect rock to face roman at some point, if not wrestlemania 41 then 42. But yeah codys match may not happen💀. Rock is a busy guy so i get it but if we never see it that will suck
It’s like last year. Rock returned on Day 1 as a face. He then came back after the Rumble to become part of mania. Flipped his character because of crow reaction. I think he’ll remain as face and boss figure with Netflix partnership until the Rumble where it can then reignite. He congratulates Roman for now. But the big swerve will come later when Roman shows his arrogant self again because he now has the ulafala
So one thing I noticed about that Rock was mentioning the he is the High Chief in the family which made me think what if he at some point comes for the Ula Fala. Maybe he watches and pays attention to how Roman acts now that he is once again the Only Tribal Chief. Maybe he does something that causes the Final Boss to call him out and since he's got the respect of the family and he's stay mutual this whole time it'll be easy to have the backing he needs if he does. Especially if the match is Tribal Combat but idk just a thought
HHH explained the reason he and Rock broke Kayfabe. It was the for the new and returning viewers. I agree it would have been better to keep Kayfabe, but for whatever reason they thought that was best to do. But Rock wasn’t being the Final Boss. It did kind of lose momentum, though.
@@ki11aqueen5 Did you watch raw monday? He's definitely not a heel anymore. Rock kissed cody, roman, and the fans butts. Thats not a heel whatsoever. He's a good guy again and he's not wrestling at wrestlemania in 2025.
I don’t appreciate how the rock told Cody after mania that there story has just begun and he gave him something we don’t know what it is . Then he’s just being nice to him all of a sudden
yeah its very stupid writing. what a terrible ending for the bloodline storyline. its an awful ending seeing rock simping to roman and cody. then solo loses. they should've just made solo the new tribal chief on raw monday. roman doesnt have that many years left wrestling. solo and the new bloodline those guys are the future. roman should've made solo a star. without the rock and the bloodline story, wwe wont even be interesting. thats the only reason i watch.
With The Rock "turning babyface again", I wonder what this means for WrestleMania. I would have preferred Rock vs Roman over Cody. I feel the Netflix premiere was a break from kayfabe and more of an introduction to the rest of the world.🤷🏽♂️
Who said he's "babyface"? He can come back next Monday and make Cody bleed and all you neckbeards will just accept he's a "bag guy" then. Then he can come back the next week and say "Just kidding!" and all you neckbeards will accept he's a "good guy" again. You just accept whatever slop WWE feeds you.
I would have been fine if Rock didn't come out in The Final Bo$$ vest. If he just came out in another outfit and introduced the new audience to WWEon Netflix . I was irritated. They didn't stay in the storyline, kayfabe. I'm going to be patient and see where it goes. But yeah, I wanted Final Bo$$ Rock for the Netflix kickoff show but i understand it.
That’s a good point. Have him kick off raw in corporate rock mode In a suit or something And then the Roman segment final boss attire at least then people might think “oh they did a stare down maybe it’ll happen”
One of the big criticisms of Vince was he didn't give explanations to why a storyline might have changed or to something that doesn't seem to make sense with a current storyline - is HHH/the current WWE writers not doing the exact same thing with what happened at Monday's RAW? Why do some "fans" have to label everything with "Vince" or "HHH" - just judge the product for what it is and ignore whoever is doing the "writing". If something doesn't make sense, it doesn't make sense - it doesn't matter if Vince wrote it or HHH wrote it. All the current WWE fans who continue to give HHH a pass and constantly compare him to Vince need to judge the product for what it is - and not for the person doing the "writing". The current product has not been good since Wrestlemania - and if you can't agree with that, you are lying to yourself. Storylines are dragged out WAY too long; weeks go by with zero progression in storylines and people "forgive" the boredom due to HHH doing "long-term story telling" - you can tell a "long story" and not have weeks of nothing happening. HHH is turning the weekly shows into things you can skip and just watch the highlights on TH-cam - and even a lot of the PLE/PPV are even turning into the same thing. Seems like all HHH cares about is "Wrestlemania season" - and we aren't even there yet. HHH needs to start getting criticized more - and it's not just people being "negative". The current WWE product is boring, repetitive and going nowhere - sorry if that hurts people's feelings or they find that to be "negative". Sometimes facts and the truth hurts...
Vince and Triple H both suck at booking. I cant believe they turned rock into such a joke on raw. Then the bloodline fued is ending. I think WWE will be going downhill now.
@@D_Rog2 what about it? he just rambled a bunch of stupid sh*t on nxt. he's not a heel and he's not wrestling at wrestlemania so who cares what he has to say.
The thing is that the rock isn't concerned about being the tribal chief or the head of the table spot from roman as he himself is the HIGH CHIEF. So this match is still possible if the rock turns on roman at the rumble
No, they really don't. The "new fans" they were trying to get will MAYBE turn it on again next Monday if they are flipping through Netflix - and once they do and see jobbers wrestling, they'll quickly turn it off and never watch again. Making a show like RAW last Monday to try and get "new viewers" isn't going to work - because those "new viewers" will tune in again, see the product for what it actually is (all jobbers and not the Rock) every other Monday, turn it off and never watch again.
The way I look at it. This is going to be looked at as a weekly show on Netflix, for the first impression I think they did alright. I imagine it’ll pick up next week.
The storyline of cody and rock deserves one of your sketches of storyline that went nowhere or the pitch meeting videos Rikishi, could be behind the new bloodline. He's always talking about being part of it
Maybe Cody is turning heel and teaming with the rock. He could be pissed that he didnt have a match on the show while roman was used. (kayfabe obviously just fantasy booking)
I agree. I'm cool with that. Hopefully, if that's the case, Rock doesn't show up at the last minute and try to do a main event match for WM. IMO, if Rock is not available, they should just say it so fans can move on.
It makes since they wouldn’t go this route because rock vs Roman was anticipated last year just like this year. Y’all don’t know it yet but we boutta have Rock Vs. Roman‼️
I can't believe people got all these assumptions from ONE show , the show being the debut on a popular network which was clearly lenient on the business side of things... like bruh let it play out for at least a month , they sold us the dream like EVERY single business promotion does to attract more viewers . Y'all seriously went and jumped to conclusions from the FIRST 3 hour show 💀💀💀
Let what "play out"? They sold this show to be this extravagant event - they "built up" to it for weeks and weeks, essentially putting the product on hold for literal months. WWE told us to build up our expectations for this show and then gave us that - typical WWE over-promising and under-delivering - when they literally need to be doing the exact opposite of that. And with that, what they gave us Monday will literally be the best they can do until Wrestlemania. They "shot their load" and now we'll go back to jobber-central on RAW.
It's just going to be The Rock V Roman no Cody or title involved at some point. I think The Rock has had enough of playing the Final Boss. He almost seemed irritated when people ask him.
Yeah. WWE fans have no clue what to think anymore - they just run to TH-cam channels like this or HHH twitter feed to tell them what to think. They don't have an actual opinion of their own - they just follow whatever they are told to think.
You're acting as if the entire road to mania last season and the creation of the final boss wasnt a coveluded mess of a story. Y'all were complaining about that the entire way through. So this is par for the course.
It feels like for the RAW Netflix premiere The Rock had to be TKO Corporate face because a lot of casuals would be watching and the executives would be there. He will eventually go back to savage heel Final Boss to face Cody or Roman
😂 that doesn't make sense Rock killed the final boss character when he celebrated with Cody and gave the Ula Fula to Roman WWE just shot themselves in the foot with their poor booking for their Netflix. Debut.
@niallcrean520 I agree but WWE had great storylines that they fumbled or buried certain talents for example : New Judgment day Rhea Ripley's baby face run Damian Priest's baby face Finn Balor Street Profits American Made Camaro Hayes Wyatt 6 was the most disappointing of all on this list because it was supposed to be special everything was set for them to be successful but they still failed 🤦I believe WWE started dying before our eyes when they got brought out by another corporation that's my opinion.
@@johnbradley8780 rheas baby face run has failed because she’s terrible on the mic and cuts the same promos week after week. Wyatt 6 is failing because they are not believable as a threat. They look weak and stupid. The wyatt family were legit strong. Bray was a beast. Uncle howdy is built like a boy. Could you imagine uncle howdy in the ring with prime Kane or undertaker haha
We'll see what happens during the Royal Rumble. If he's not there, or throughout the rest of this Wrestlemania season, then the matches with Cody, Roman, or a combination of the 2 are off the table. That's what I perceived when it came to his Raw appearance.
For me personally, as of right now, that raw ruined both of those feuds. It made no sense for rock to just be jolly jolly with Cody. I don't know if I could take that feud seriously anymore, if he decides to be a heel again. As far as Roman, he should have either gave Roman a rock bottom, or put the oofa lafa on himself (that would have been funny). There were too many opportunities, that just made the show pretty forgettable in my eyes. It's my personal opinion.
Roman is building himself back up to the point he will be the ultimate babyface now. he has his ula-fala, now he’s chasing the championship, he gonna be arrogant like usual but just in babyface form which would draw in Seth Rollins bc Seth feels like he’s gonna be the odd man out of being the face of the WWE if the two ppl he’s in competition with wins those championships. So he’s gonna try stop the hype of Roman bc he feels like he created Roman in a sense while still tryna edge out CM Punk so he won’t become a bigger star than what he can become if he win a championship. Seth will try to bury both but idk which one he goes for first.
It's technically the fans fault we didn't get rock roman. We all know Cody wasn't going anywhere and that he would eventually finish his story the rock is a top 10 most busy celebrity in the world and everyone put him on the backburner... That being said It's also technically the fans fault we got the final boss. I did want Cody to finish his story but I would have rather seen rock roman.
My take away from this is...they still aren't sure if The Rock is going to wrestle at Mania. I mean you could still have Rock be behind new Bloodline as you said...it's pro wrestling this same company had Steve Austin shake hands with Vince McMahon then 6 months later he was stunning him again lol. IDK I think fans now just want to get mad and look for a reason to be outraged haha. Another consideration is it's possible that whatever studio he is filming for does not want him to be a bad guy. I know when he was signed on with Disney part of why he distanced himself from WWE was they did not want a "wrestler" associated with Disney cuz ya know wrestlers are soooooo dirty and disgusting *eye roll*
It's obvious at this point that he's got the Moana reshoots going on at mania season so he probably won't be around, but i do believe that he'll have something to do with summerslam especially it being a 2 night event this time, and might hype next years mania.
The rock should be in a suit when he goes out as TKO holdings Dwayne and then be a major heel then he crashed out with shades and custom vest then forgets what he did when he's in the suit he can be like a better 2014 corporate kane lol
You know what really is pissing me off is the fact that everybody is still talking about this everyone’s talking about this and making a big old fuss But nobody is talking about the amazing match Punk and Rollins had in the main event that literally made the show for me nobody’s talking about the storytelling and what they could be setting up for them even though they were in the main event and that’s the last thing you saw on raw was CM punk like why are we so consumed with this? I guess we should just all learn by now. The rock‘s gonna do what the rock’s gonna do
Dude, what? Punk looked like he was 70 years old out there. He could barely move. Could hardly pick up Seth at the end. That match was slow and boring - Punk is a washed up old man - who was never even actually a good wrestler even during his "prime" over a decade ago.
@ see literally I don’t understand that opinion and I definitely don’t agree with it no offense but you and everybody else that saying and thanking this y’all y’all are so wrong and don’t get it And I’m pretty sure you guys are probably the same people who just said punk had match of the year with Drew in hell of the cell and he did and punk didn’t look gassed or whatever in that match He didn’t look like that last night with Rollins He pulled out a lot of his old moves and arsenals of course he’s not gonna move the same as he did 10 years ago, but like he said 46 is just a number he is still doing a fantastic job and he has the resilience enough to kick out and not give up on the match Their storytelling here it’s a student and teacher storytelling. Maybe they’re building it up to where Ron is actually able to outsmart punk and beat him and then maybe they will actually have a mutual respect. I’m sorry, I never realized how not every wrestling fan shares the same opinion as the majority there’s a lot of wild opinions out here in wrestling fan world never really realize that so much
I mean it could be long term story maybe it could be next year wrestlemania cuz it already stacked for mania and like you said we still don’t know what rock gave Cody and he said he would go against Cody title or no title
Looking back now I actually don’t mind The Rock being nice to Cody, becaus I can take it as him being “fake nice” as The Final Boss to please all the execs and everything. Cody laughing and smiling along is what’s bugging me the most now because it makes him look sorta weak. And I say that has a huge Cody fan. The Rock/Roman story is definitely not off the table though, he was side eyeing Roman hard after that match. They can absolutely have The Rock turn on him at some point.
Well the rock didn't really start being apart of the story on a serious level until after the royal rumble last year so it will be the same here as well. We mainly got this version of the rock because he a board member but i will say if it was vince he would have found a way to celebrate it but also still carry out the stories. Eh the more i think about it they are to busy letting the world know how they are doing better without vince to the point its coming in between what the product is all about.
All that anticipation and excitement from fans convinced he'll follow up either resume the Cody feud or attack Roman, we just end up seeing a smiley huggy lovey corporate boss that just kinda threw that all out. Wrestlemania each year relies on pioneer star power to appeal to the event, just like wrestlemania 27 or 18. So If Rock is out then wrestlemania will feel like a solid summerslam and nothing more
Rock could easily just wait till after Mania to try his agenda…and play the long game till 2026 They have a deep roster and Netflix will want them performing and it makes sense for them to try to ensure they can rely on their top talent later on should numbers dwindle
I still watch wwe mostly on TH-cam i don't watch raw or smackdown I've watch TH-cam WWE for a good couple years now but honestly I'm still interested in watching WWE but I don't like the product as much as i did when I started watching I'm 19 started watching around 2015 or 2014 i remember the storyline up to the 2015 RR even the survivor series in 2014 I just don't vividly remember watch those even Tho i know the story line very well but that's beside the point being back then it felt like anything could happen any title could be swapped on any raw like in 2015 Cody could have lost the title raw after mania and won it back in elimination chamber a month later to have a long title reign but now it feels like everything only happens at wrestle mania and honestly I kind of hate being able to know what's happening I can border line predict everything they do like i knew roman was returning at summer slam I knew Cody was winning WM 40 i knew solo was going to lose on raw maybe its because I'm older and understand the entertainment side but back when roman won that first WWE championship I never knew who would win between roman and shamus the ONLY time I knew the outcome was when they said he would lose his job if he didn't win I knew the outcome of that but everything else usually felt unpredictable now everything feels predictable and yea they throw a curveball every once in a while like honestly i thought Cody was winning at 39 so yea they do it sometimes but most of the time it's so SO predictable like for from 2021 to 2023 i literally only watched WM BECAUSE IT WAS THE ONLY THING I COULDNT REALLY PREDICT
You all wanted Cody Rhodes vs Roman Reigns at Wrestlemania not The Rock. Knowing how busy The Rock is but think you all can book the show from the internet. While The Bloodline story was building golden shovel Cody was running a rival company. Yet you all excuse him. Fickle.
I think Dwayne is really up to something. I think there is going to be a big turn again from him soon. I could be wrong but i think its all a part of the Game. Ha Ha see what i did there.😏😏😏
There is no point of Rock v Roman right now. Both of them got nothing to prove or achieve anything more. Beating Rock wouldn’t do anything to Roman’s career rn. Plus with Cena’s farewell tour. Let this year be for Crna and maybe next year Rock v Roman could happen.
Yall complain about everything. No rock. You cry. Cody not champion cry. Cody champ cry. Roman baby face cry. Stop listening to TH-cam gurus and just enjoy the god damn show 🤦🏽♂️😩
lol i hear ya, hey thanks man. its true you see more often we get something we like some side will complain and then they don't do it they complain. like most things people won't be satisfied. I just like watching see where it goes. some stuff i like, some i dont
Rock is all about his image...he has taken a dip from his movies to his character swing required to save himself for WM...why buy extra shares just before Monday....I'm sorry the bloodline story got destroyed by the rock and h- need for money
Yep. The Rock is a narcissist and makes it all about him - HHH literally has to step aside and do what the Rock tells him, since the Rock is a board member and literally HHH's boss. If the Rock wants to do something, HHH literally has zero say against that. If the Rock wants to step in, ruin storylines and make it all about himself for a night to promote himself and his "image", the Rock is going to do that.
@brettcollins7512 and that's the frustrated part....the long stories have had fans invested just got sideswiped....now his kid will soon be call the shots and it's like she is so not ready...that's why aew needs to step up there story's ...remove some those old heads and let the young talent carry the show
rock isnt wrestling at wrestlemania. thats been confirmed for months now. thats why rock was kissing cody, roman, and the fans butts. rock is just going to disappear again. he needs to stay away if he cant commit to the wrestling fans. john cena was right about rock. cena cleared his whole movie schedule for 2025 for the wrestling fans. i dont like cena, but i really respect cena for doing that. cena loves wrestling. rock loves money. F the rock!
The frustrating thing is under the Triple H era, it feels like you are rewarded for following the little details, for knowing the "lore" behind storylines, for keeping up with the continuity. Whenever The Rock shows up though, continuity goes right out the window so it becomes "Why care about the details then if Rock can just come along and retcon whatever he feels like away?"
Exactly. Because the new-age WWE neckbeard fans will just do whatever Papa H tells them to do and think - most current WWE fans are non-thinking mouth-breathers that will just think whatever their daddy (HHH) tells them to. Not allowed to criticize HHH and just "let him cook" even though he drags out storylines for months too long, as weekly shows become boring. The current WWE product is a bore and most WWE "TH-camrs" are too afraid to be honest and say how bad the current product is. Shows like Monday's RAW and the Saturday "Main Event" are prime examples of that - just essentially "house shows" they put on TV for "new fans". How about the current "hardcore" fans? WWE is bought and run by corporate partners like Netflix and all the sponsors you say all over the ring Monday. WWE is cooked. The product stinks.
@@brettcollins7512it seems like your just venting how you feel bud
@@RiseofAshinobi Yeah, that's typically how a comment section works
@@RiseofAshinobiexactly like don’t just put this on Rock bro this been an issue😂😂😂
@brettcollins7512 bro!! 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 say it louder for the people in the back!! 100% everything you said.
As soon as they showed Rock's daughters in the front row, I knew he wasn't gonna do heelish things.
You were right. I thought to myself when I seen his daughters "ohhh noooo he is going to turn heel" and he broke my spirit. I thought he was coming back to set up his wrestlemania match but the dirt sheets were right earlier this year. They all said they talked to higher ups in wwe and they said he's not wrestling. Oh well I hope they do roman vs cm punk and cena vs cody instead, but I was really hoping to see rock wrestling at mania again this year. He only cares about money. He doesnt give 2 sh*ts about the wrestling fans and never did since he left in 2002. This guy is a total a**hole.
The Rock is right about one thing...
This is going to be one hell of a ride for real..
What ride would that be? Rock will be gone until 2026. Thats not a ride. Now if you mean the bullsh*t is the ride then yeah I get it lol I wish rock would've never even come back in 2024 now. He just sold out big deal. To completely ignore and undo everything they build in one night is so disrespectful to the fans. Rock simping to cody, roman, and the fans makes me sick.
Storywise, they have an out for Rock being the way he was that night. He brings it up in the promo...his title of High Chief and his respect for samoan tradition. AS high Chief he did what was expected...he crowned Roman Reigns after he won tribal combat, but also gave respect to the man who stood up and helped his family. (Remember in between the beatdown/roman loss and Raw....Cody stood with Roman in his fight.) Its basically the calm before the storm....because eventual the pass Cody got for helping, will fall and Roman will likely be told to fall in line. Every great heel knows when its time to play politics....and when it's time to bring out the knife.
They made it as clear as they could, for what was a very obvious situation........NOT YET but it will come.
I think people missed his NXT promo lol. Final Boss is definitely still around. He seems to be more of an anti hero than straight up heel but a lot of that too is he needed to be a face so casuals and corporate would respond well. NXT Rock was back to not caring and at least for me made it feel like he has respect for both Roman and Cody in kayfabe but can still turn at any second.
Yeah after the nxt promo it seems like what he did on raw was an act. He basically said on nxt that he has Cody right where he wants him
@@kddillard5711 I think that’s stupid tho. If you hate someone so much you don’t just give him praise, tell his mom to say hi and then the next day say “It’s all part of my plan!”. Why would you let your enemy know that you’re 10 steps ahead? You just told him that publicly. Sounds like he wanted to course correct it on NXT but it didn’t really work tho
@@crappyposts3477 yeah it a weird direction they’re taking it it still kinda seemed like they were teasing us on raw how they had rock behind Roman for so long. Everytime he turned around I was expecting a rock bottom. I believe the rock had the idea to scrap the Cody and Roman rivalry but when he got so much backlash after raw because he basically ruined the show for a lot of us, he’s now trying to make us think he’s playing a role. I think in the time between bad blood and now he decided he doesn’t want to wrestle anymore but he sees how upset everyone got about it and now he’s trying to please us because that’s important to him.
@@kddillard5711 he didnt say anything even remotely close to setting up a match with cody or anyone else. he is just bsing the fans like he always does. hes not wrestling at wrestlemania. he wont come back until 2026 if even then.
@ he did say “the rock is the final boss thinking 20 steps ahead so know your role and shut your mouth” when he was addressing fans mad about him being friends with Cody
I do think it’s weird that the WWE CHAMPION didn’t have a promo on the debut episode
Me too
Gunther got a pre film I think they was a mistake
I expect rock to face roman at some point, if not wrestlemania 41 then 42. But yeah codys match may not happen💀. Rock is a busy guy so i get it but if we never see it that will suck
well it might suck if we dont see it but also they could put on a very bad match. many dream matches end up being stinkers.
It’s like last year. Rock returned on Day 1 as a face. He then came back after the Rumble to become part of mania. Flipped his character because of crow reaction. I think he’ll remain as face and boss figure with Netflix partnership until the Rumble where it can then reignite. He congratulates Roman for now. But the big swerve will come later when Roman shows his arrogant self again because he now has the ulafala
So one thing I noticed about that Rock was mentioning the he is the High Chief in the family which made me think what if he at some point comes for the Ula Fala. Maybe he watches and pays attention to how Roman acts now that he is once again the Only Tribal Chief. Maybe he does something that causes the Final Boss to call him out and since he's got the respect of the family and he's stay mutual this whole time it'll be easy to have the backing he needs if he does. Especially if the match is Tribal Combat but idk just a thought
Unlike most overreacting fans, you are one of the only people who makes sense
lol thanks!
HHH explained the reason he and Rock broke Kayfabe. It was the for the new and returning viewers. I agree it would have been better to keep Kayfabe, but for whatever reason they thought that was best to do. But Rock wasn’t being the Final Boss. It did kind of lose momentum, though.
So he's an idiot got you.
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Rocks a few steps ahead guys. He even said it on nxt. I’m sure we can expect some kind of unexpected heel turn real soon.
He said that to save face after the backlash him being on NXT was stupid
Unexpected? HES ALEEADY A HEEL! I don’t like when my intelligence is insulted.
Naah he just said to manipulate the fans after the backlash. He's all Hollywood now.
He's not wrestling at wrestlemania. This has been confirmed for months by higher ups in wwe. Rock is just lying to you like he often does.
@@ki11aqueen5 Did you watch raw monday? He's definitely not a heel anymore. Rock kissed cody, roman, and the fans butts. Thats not a heel whatsoever. He's a good guy again and he's not wrestling at wrestlemania in 2025.
I don’t appreciate how the rock told Cody after mania that there story has just begun and he gave him something we don’t know what it is . Then he’s just being nice to him all of a sudden
yeah its very stupid writing. what a terrible ending for the bloodline storyline. its an awful ending seeing rock simping to roman and cody. then solo loses. they should've just made solo the new tribal chief on raw monday. roman doesnt have that many years left wrestling. solo and the new bloodline those guys are the future. roman should've made solo a star. without the rock and the bloodline story, wwe wont even be interesting. thats the only reason i watch.
The Rock could be rusing Cody and Roman until it is time to strike.
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With The Rock "turning babyface again", I wonder what this means for WrestleMania. I would have preferred Rock vs Roman over Cody. I feel the Netflix premiere was a break from kayfabe and more of an introduction to the rest of the world.🤷🏽♂️
Who said he's "babyface"? He can come back next Monday and make Cody bleed and all you neckbeards will just accept he's a "bag guy" then. Then he can come back the next week and say "Just kidding!" and all you neckbeards will accept he's a "good guy" again. You just accept whatever slop WWE feeds you.
@@brettcollins7512He said "turning babyface" in quotes. It's almost like you don't have basic reading comprehension skills.
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Who cares - he's boring
Nice spoiler kid
I would have been fine if Rock didn't come out in The Final Bo$$ vest. If he just came out in another outfit and introduced the new audience to WWEon Netflix . I was irritated. They didn't stay in the storyline, kayfabe. I'm going to be patient and see where it goes. But yeah, I wanted Final Bo$$ Rock for the Netflix kickoff show but i understand it.
That’s a good point. Have him kick off raw in corporate rock mode In a suit or something
And then the Roman segment final boss attire at least then people might think “oh they did a stare down maybe it’ll happen”
waited a year for this match to get it eroded in a sec. also the Final boss thing was dope af just to get Dwayne Johnson. Feeling very deflated.
Im just shutting my mouth and enjoying the ride The Rock is taking me on
Where's he "taking you"? He's not going to show up again for months...
@@brettcollins7512casual fans know how to wait and not cry and jump to conclusions like most of y’all internet fans are doing rn
One of the big criticisms of Vince was he didn't give explanations to why a storyline might have changed or to something that doesn't seem to make sense with a current storyline - is HHH/the current WWE writers not doing the exact same thing with what happened at Monday's RAW? Why do some "fans" have to label everything with "Vince" or "HHH" - just judge the product for what it is and ignore whoever is doing the "writing". If something doesn't make sense, it doesn't make sense - it doesn't matter if Vince wrote it or HHH wrote it. All the current WWE fans who continue to give HHH a pass and constantly compare him to Vince need to judge the product for what it is - and not for the person doing the "writing". The current product has not been good since Wrestlemania - and if you can't agree with that, you are lying to yourself. Storylines are dragged out WAY too long; weeks go by with zero progression in storylines and people "forgive" the boredom due to HHH doing "long-term story telling" - you can tell a "long story" and not have weeks of nothing happening. HHH is turning the weekly shows into things you can skip and just watch the highlights on TH-cam - and even a lot of the PLE/PPV are even turning into the same thing. Seems like all HHH cares about is "Wrestlemania season" - and we aren't even there yet. HHH needs to start getting criticized more - and it's not just people being "negative". The current WWE product is boring, repetitive and going nowhere - sorry if that hurts people's feelings or they find that to be "negative". Sometimes facts and the truth hurts...
Did you watch NXT?
They won’t really want to listen and acknowledge this…
@@lani7475 no the dude on the board of directors came out out of character for a second for a welcome to Netflix yall be acting dumb 😊
Vince and Triple H both suck at booking. I cant believe they turned rock into such a joke on raw. Then the bloodline fued is ending. I think WWE will be going downhill now.
@@D_Rog2 what about it? he just rambled a bunch of stupid sh*t on nxt. he's not a heel and he's not wrestling at wrestlemania so who cares what he has to say.
The thing is that the rock isn't concerned about being the tribal chief or the head of the table spot from roman as he himself is the HIGH CHIEF. So this match is still possible if the rock turns on roman at the rumble
It sure got us talking and that was their mission statement heading into this new era. They KNOW EXACTLY WTF They doin😂
No, they really don't. The "new fans" they were trying to get will MAYBE turn it on again next Monday if they are flipping through Netflix - and once they do and see jobbers wrestling, they'll quickly turn it off and never watch again. Making a show like RAW last Monday to try and get "new viewers" isn't going to work - because those "new viewers" will tune in again, see the product for what it actually is (all jobbers and not the Rock) every other Monday, turn it off and never watch again.
The way I look at it. This is going to be looked at as a weekly show on Netflix, for the first impression I think they did alright. I imagine it’ll pick up next week.
The storyline of cody and rock deserves one of your sketches of storyline that went nowhere or the pitch meeting videos
Rikishi, could be behind the new bloodline. He's always talking about being part of it
I think rock is swerving lulling Cody and Roman into false sense of security before siccing the new bloodline on them
Then they look like jabronies, especially Cody.
Y'all dont understand The Final Boss character, as a boss sometimes you gotta play on both sides then catch them off guard.
LOL Ok. Rock isnt wrestling at wrestlemania. You wont even see this guy again until 2026 or later. You need to learn from history.
The Rock Will Turn on Roman Reigns. I think that as a certainty.
Maybe Cody is turning heel and teaming with the rock. He could be pissed that he didnt have a match on the show while roman was used. (kayfabe obviously just fantasy booking)
Great video bro *subbed*
Hey thanks man!
I still think something is up, just look at Heyman when rock comes out.
Look honestly WWE don’t need rock for WM 41 there’s other main events that can happened
I agree. I'm cool with that. Hopefully, if that's the case, Rock doesn't show up at the last minute and try to do a main event match for WM. IMO, if Rock is not available, they should just say it so fans can move on.
in the rocks own words "know your role,shut your mouth and enjoy the ride the rock takes you on"
yeah there wont be any rides happening. he will just disappear again like he always does. hes not wrestling at mania but he wont come out and say it.
It makes since they wouldn’t go this route because rock vs Roman was anticipated last year just like this year. Y’all don’t know it yet but we boutta have Rock Vs. Roman‼️
I really didn't mind it but eh, it is what it is. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
I think The Rock on NXT last night replanted the seeds of this story
Exactly its part of the story that they had to act cool since it was such a big night for raw
Guys... he told us to shush and enjoy his ride. Final Boss Rock will come around again
no he is done. not wrestling at mania.
I enjoy Monday night raw on Netflix for the first time in years
I can't believe people got all these assumptions from ONE show , the show being the debut on a popular network which was clearly lenient on the business side of things... like bruh let it play out for at least a month , they sold us the dream like EVERY single business promotion does to attract more viewers . Y'all seriously went and jumped to conclusions from the FIRST 3 hour show 💀💀💀
Let what "play out"? They sold this show to be this extravagant event - they "built up" to it for weeks and weeks, essentially putting the product on hold for literal months. WWE told us to build up our expectations for this show and then gave us that - typical WWE over-promising and under-delivering - when they literally need to be doing the exact opposite of that. And with that, what they gave us Monday will literally be the best they can do until Wrestlemania. They "shot their load" and now we'll go back to jobber-central on RAW.
Facts… people are stupid… the rock will be at mania… that was all work
It's just going to be The Rock V Roman no Cody or title involved at some point. I think The Rock has had enough of playing the Final Boss. He almost seemed irritated when people ask him.
Rock vs roman>>>>>>>>>
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Hey thanks so much !
the same people yelling “long term story telling” and “ring psychology” are now turning around and justifying the rock being out of character lmao
Yeah. WWE fans have no clue what to think anymore - they just run to TH-cam channels like this or HHH twitter feed to tell them what to think. They don't have an actual opinion of their own - they just follow whatever they are told to think.
You're acting as if the entire road to mania last season and the creation of the final boss wasnt a coveluded mess of a story. Y'all were complaining about that the entire way through. So this is par for the course.
It feels like for the RAW Netflix premiere The Rock had to be TKO Corporate face because a lot of casuals would be watching and the executives would be there. He will eventually go back to savage heel Final Boss to face Cody or Roman
😂 that doesn't make sense Rock killed the final boss character when he celebrated with Cody and gave the Ula Fula to Roman WWE just shot themselves in the foot with their poor booking for their Netflix.
Debut.
@@johnbradley8780so many things in wwe haven’t made sense for years and years now
@niallcrean520 I agree but WWE had great storylines that they fumbled or buried certain talents for example :
New Judgment day
Rhea Ripley's baby face run
Damian Priest's baby face
Finn Balor
Street Profits
American Made
Camaro Hayes
Wyatt 6 was the most disappointing of all on this list because it was supposed to be special everything was set for them to be successful but they still failed 🤦I believe WWE started dying before our eyes when they got brought out by another corporation that's my opinion.
@@johnbradley8780 rheas baby face run has failed because she’s terrible on the mic and cuts the same promos week after week. Wyatt 6 is failing because they are not believable as a threat. They look weak and stupid. The wyatt family were legit strong. Bray was a beast. Uncle howdy is built like a boy. Could you imagine uncle howdy in the ring with prime Kane or undertaker haha
At this point I'm cool if I don't see rock on wwe anymore.
Blasphemous
@presidentc4 Nah
We'll see what happens during the Royal Rumble. If he's not there, or throughout the rest of this Wrestlemania season, then the matches with Cody, Roman, or a combination of the 2 are off the table. That's what I perceived when it came to his Raw appearance.
For me personally, as of right now, that raw ruined both of those feuds. It made no sense for rock to just be jolly jolly with Cody. I don't know if I could take that feud seriously anymore, if he decides to be a heel again.
As far as Roman, he should have either gave Roman a rock bottom, or put the oofa lafa on himself (that would have been funny). There were too many opportunities, that just made the show pretty forgettable in my eyes. It's my personal opinion.
I'm sure they'll find a way to use TKO Rock's promo as a way to fuel his heel return.
It was just cooperate rock remember he is 20 steps ahead of everybody
HAHA the glasses definitely gave it away for the Rock 😂
Roman is building himself back up to the point he will be the ultimate babyface now. he has his ula-fala, now he’s chasing the championship, he gonna be arrogant like usual but just in babyface form which would draw in Seth Rollins bc Seth feels like he’s gonna be the odd man out of being the face of the WWE if the two ppl he’s in competition with wins those championships. So he’s gonna try stop the hype of Roman bc he feels like he created Roman in a sense while still tryna edge out CM Punk so he won’t become a bigger star than what he can become if he win a championship. Seth will try to bury both but idk which one he goes for first.
It's technically the fans fault we didn't get rock roman.
We all know Cody wasn't going anywhere and that he would eventually finish his story the rock is a top 10 most busy celebrity in the world and everyone put him on the backburner... That being said It's also technically the fans fault we got the final boss.
I did want Cody to finish his story but I would have rather seen rock roman.
My take away from this is...they still aren't sure if The Rock is going to wrestle at Mania. I mean you could still have Rock be behind new Bloodline as you said...it's pro wrestling this same company had Steve Austin shake hands with Vince McMahon then 6 months later he was stunning him again lol. IDK I think fans now just want to get mad and look for a reason to be outraged haha. Another consideration is it's possible that whatever studio he is filming for does not want him to be a bad guy. I know when he was signed on with Disney part of why he distanced himself from WWE was they did not want a "wrestler" associated with Disney cuz ya know wrestlers are soooooo dirty and disgusting *eye roll*
It's obvious at this point that he's got the Moana reshoots going on at mania season so he probably won't be around, but i do believe that he'll have something to do with summerslam especially it being a 2 night event this time, and might hype next years mania.
I think they completely forgot that the final boss is legitimately a boss and has to be a boss first before a character
Would any of yall want Cody vs Roman part 3?
Yes but down the line w/ Cody as heel and Roman as a face this time
and people say kayfabe is a bad thing
The rock should be in a suit when he goes out as TKO holdings Dwayne and then be a major heel then he crashed out with shades and custom vest then forgets what he did when he's in the suit he can be like a better 2014 corporate kane lol
Rock made cody look like a goofy
do you miss the sportsnet CA Ads yet assemble?
Haha no not at all
I watched NXT last night and there were plenty of ads and it was just the NXT video loops I was fine
I think yall putting too much into that one episode of Raw vs what’s been built. Raw was a one off.
Rocks 52 clock is ticking to do rock vs roman
The Rock is staying quiet this year because it's john cena's last year
No. Then why would he even show up at all? That's not exactly "being quiet" - if he was "being quiet", he would not be on the show...
Im not doubting triple h at all, this is the first episode of raw on netflix it was 50/50 but let the man cook we just started the year
HEAR ME OUT. The final boss (hypothetically) is running with the (hypothetical) big3 Seth, Drew, and Kevin
Wouldn’t be surprised if Netflix wants Rock to be face. I remember when they did the Fox/Smackdown deal, Fox made some requests.
I think the promo of The Rock on Netflix although he was a face, I felt a heel undertone in the promo. Maybe it was me overthinking
Rocks 20 steps ahead of all us
I think the rock was playing game you can tell through his body language , he’s not happy that Roman won the Ula - Fala !
You know what really is pissing me off is the fact that everybody is still talking about this everyone’s talking about this and making a big old fuss
But nobody is talking about the amazing match Punk and Rollins had in the main event that literally made the show for me nobody’s talking about the storytelling and what they could be setting up for them even though they were in the main event and that’s the last thing you saw on raw was CM punk like why are we so consumed with this? I guess we should just all learn by now. The rock‘s gonna do what the rock’s gonna do
Dude, what? Punk looked like he was 70 years old out there. He could barely move. Could hardly pick up Seth at the end. That match was slow and boring - Punk is a washed up old man - who was never even actually a good wrestler even during his "prime" over a decade ago.
@ see literally I don’t understand that opinion and I definitely don’t agree with it no offense but you and everybody else that saying and thanking this y’all y’all are so wrong and don’t get it
And I’m pretty sure you guys are probably the same people who just said punk had match of the year with Drew in hell of the cell and he did and punk didn’t look gassed or whatever in that match
He didn’t look like that last night with Rollins
He pulled out a lot of his old moves and arsenals of course he’s not gonna move the same as he did 10 years ago, but like he said 46 is just a number he is still doing a fantastic job and he has the resilience enough to kick out and not give up on the match
Their storytelling here it’s a student and teacher storytelling. Maybe they’re building it up to where Ron is actually able to outsmart punk and beat him and then maybe they will actually have a mutual respect.
I’m sorry, I never realized how not every wrestling fan shares the same opinion as the majority there’s a lot of wild opinions out here in wrestling fan world never really realize that so much
Positivity doesn’t make for good clickbait. It’s the unfortunate reality of YT in 2025.
Wat was the 3 finger court down about nothin happen
I mean it could be long term story maybe it could be next year wrestlemania cuz it already stacked for mania and like you said we still don’t know what rock gave Cody and he said he would go against Cody title or no title
Looking back now I actually don’t mind The Rock being nice to Cody, becaus I can take it as him being “fake nice” as The Final Boss to please all the execs and everything. Cody laughing and smiling along is what’s bugging me the most now because it makes him look sorta weak. And I say that has a huge Cody fan. The Rock/Roman story is definitely not off the table though, he was side eyeing Roman hard after that match. They can absolutely have The Rock turn on him at some point.
You know what else doesn't matter is the crown Jewel Championships
Am I the only one that completely forgot about those nothing titles?
Well the rock didn't really start being apart of the story on a serious level until after the royal rumble last year so it will be the same here as well. We mainly got this version of the rock because he a board member but i will say if it was vince he would have found a way to celebrate it but also still carry out the stories. Eh the more i think about it they are to busy letting the world know how they are doing better without vince to the point its coming in between what the product is all about.
It's even better if Rock doesn't appear..he is making things unnecessarily confusing
All that anticipation and excitement from fans convinced he'll follow up either resume the Cody feud or attack Roman, we just end up seeing a smiley huggy lovey corporate boss that just kinda threw that all out.
Wrestlemania each year relies on pioneer star power to appeal to the event, just like wrestlemania 27 or 18. So If Rock is out then wrestlemania will feel like a solid summerslam and nothing more
Paul Heyman guy vs Paul Heyman guy
DONT YOU DARE TALK ABOUT HIM LIKE THIS BS
Mana drinking billboard ruins everything
Rock could easily just wait till after Mania to try his agenda…and play the long game till 2026
They have a deep roster and Netflix will want them performing and it makes sense for them to try to ensure they can rely on their top talent later on should numbers dwindle
Yk what is massive loooooooooooooooooooooow taperrrrrr fadeee
Ads? What ads? 🏴
lol ya mostly for people in the US had a hard time , I’m in 🇨🇦 so I was fine
I still watch wwe mostly on TH-cam i don't watch raw or smackdown I've watch TH-cam WWE for a good couple years now but honestly I'm still interested in watching WWE but I don't like the product as much as i did when I started watching I'm 19 started watching around 2015 or 2014 i remember the storyline up to the 2015 RR even the survivor series in 2014 I just don't vividly remember watch those even Tho i know the story line very well but that's beside the point being back then it felt like anything could happen any title could be swapped on any raw like in 2015 Cody could have lost the title raw after mania and won it back in elimination chamber a month later to have a long title reign but now it feels like everything only happens at wrestle mania and honestly I kind of hate being able to know what's happening I can border line predict everything they do like i knew roman was returning at summer slam I knew Cody was winning WM 40 i knew solo was going to lose on raw maybe its because I'm older and understand the entertainment side but back when roman won that first WWE championship I never knew who would win between roman and shamus the ONLY time I knew the outcome was when they said he would lose his job if he didn't win I knew the outcome of that but everything else usually felt unpredictable now everything feels predictable and yea they throw a curveball every once in a while like honestly i thought Cody was winning at 39 so yea they do it sometimes but most of the time it's so SO predictable like for from 2021 to 2023 i literally only watched WM BECAUSE IT WAS THE ONLY THING I COULDNT REALLY PREDICT
0:33 You know what else is massive?
Hopefully this is a long con by the Final Boss.
You all wanted Cody Rhodes vs Roman Reigns at Wrestlemania not The Rock. Knowing how busy The Rock is but think you all can book the show from the internet. While The Bloodline story was building golden shovel Cody was running a rival company. Yet you all excuse him. Fickle.
I think Dwayne is really up to something. I think there is going to be a big turn again from him soon. I could be wrong but i think its all a part of the Game. Ha Ha see what i did there.😏😏😏
There is no point of Rock v Roman right now. Both of them got nothing to prove or achieve anything more.
Beating Rock wouldn’t do anything to Roman’s career rn. Plus with Cena’s farewell tour. Let this year be for Crna and maybe next year Rock v Roman could happen.
Thats all work…. Wait let the rock cook
Yall complain about everything. No rock. You cry. Cody not champion cry. Cody champ cry. Roman baby face cry. Stop listening to TH-cam gurus and just enjoy the god damn show 🤦🏽♂️😩
😂 far from a guru more of a dummy lol
I lean more on the side of just have fun , but I think it’s fine we can hang out here and talk about the product
Not you necessarily bro but more towards the peeps I see here who don’t know what they want in wrestling lol 👍🏼 Video is 🔥
lol i hear ya, hey thanks man. its true you see more often we get something we like some side will complain and then they don't do it they complain. like most things people won't be satisfied. I just like watching see where it goes. some stuff i like, some i dont
Simple. They broke kayfabe to put over the product. Kayfabe will return going forward.
Nah it’s not over they’re just planning still
Cena cody night 1
Seems likely right now
Rock is all about his image...he has taken a dip from his movies to his character swing required to save himself for WM...why buy extra shares just before Monday....I'm sorry the bloodline story got destroyed by the rock and h- need for money
Yep. The Rock is a narcissist and makes it all about him - HHH literally has to step aside and do what the Rock tells him, since the Rock is a board member and literally HHH's boss. If the Rock wants to do something, HHH literally has zero say against that. If the Rock wants to step in, ruin storylines and make it all about himself for a night to promote himself and his "image", the Rock is going to do that.
@brettcollins7512 and that's the frustrated part....the long stories have had fans invested just got sideswiped....now his kid will soon be call the shots and it's like she is so not ready...that's why aew needs to step up there story's ...remove some those old heads and let the young talent carry the show
I'm disappointed with the rock segment
rock isnt wrestling at wrestlemania. thats been confirmed for months now. thats why rock was kissing cody, roman, and the fans butts. rock is just going to disappear again. he needs to stay away if he cant commit to the wrestling fans. john cena was right about rock. cena cleared his whole movie schedule for 2025 for the wrestling fans. i dont like cena, but i really respect cena for doing that. cena loves wrestling. rock loves money. F the rock!
You’re all getting fooled 😂😂 Look into the finer details, hesitation, facial expressions! Just wait on the turn, it’s all fake
Ok cool
@ I don’t mean the product! I mean The Rock is being fake before the turn 😅😅