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This time with a video that promotes information.
I'm sure that all of you, bbyu fans, have more than once come across phrases like:
"WGM is over"
"Stop deluding yourself."
"In 2020 there are still those who ship Sungjoy?" etc..
Well.. this is a video that contains - in short - many of the reasons why we are still here to believe in sungjoy.
So, skeptics, prepare to be surprised.. because WGM was the beginning, but not the end.
none of the clips present belong to me. if you recognize your clip, tag yourself in the video. I have only put together what in my opinion are the most solid evidence we have on this couple.
Sungjae video about Fitz here: / v
If you have other moments that you think are good clues, post them below the video!
Let's keep our hope on!
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![[We Got Married Behind] 성재♥조이 미공개컷 - SungJae's song 'hug me'](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/o5plxnNudhk/mqdefault.jpg)
"I WILL STOP SHIPPING THEM TOGETHER ONLY IF ONE OF THEM WAS DATING SOMEONE ELSE"
THERE THAT'S THE TEA
True, huhuhu, I believe in this ship,tho. huhuhu
That's hurt meeee😭😭😭😭😭
No please don't !
You should stop shipping them when they will marry someone else... yeah that's more surreal.... Dating means nothing... Marrying, now that's a big thing !
Yes !
@@jearachelledeguzman5675 but if u stan at the other side think if ur bf/gf get ship with other people what will u think ?
Not gonna lie, I watched WGM because I had a big crush on Joy. After watching WGM, I had a big crush on their relationship. THE SHIP CONTINUES TO SAIL!!
same here 😭😍
Same😂
Actually tho
PheelGood Inc i had a big crush on SJ , i’m in love with both now haha
I'm a girl and have a big crush on Joy too, lol. So I feel you. But now I love their relationship too
people i ship joy with:
1. sungjae
2. jae yook
3. yook sungjae
4. btob's sungjae
5. 육성재
Same
😂 true
And 6SJ
And SJ
hahahaha indeed
There should be a show called ‘We Really Got Married’ featuring Sungjae & Joy and Naeun & Taemin. Thank you and bye.
😂😂😂👍
YAS... If that happen I can die peacefully....
Yeah,Those Two Couples Is What Made Me Feel Really Happy and Really Broken...
Well said 👏
HAHAHAHAHA AGREED
Our motto is: As long as SJ and SY are not dating/marrying someone else, this ship will continue to sail. 💚💙
This is also the reason why I don't want their relationships be known to the public. Let's just pray for the best and protect these two! 💗
(08/23/21) EDIT: JOY and CRUSH are confirmed to be dating. Thank you SungJoy. You will always have a special place in our hearts.
That's my motto about Daragon hahahaha
Intellectual!!
Yeaah, you're right
But dont you feel like the new album is kind of sad...? It was like sungjae was expressing his feelings after a broke up (not the wgm one... im talking about something more recent) ... im kind of worried about this ship... but i do believe they were together for some years... its just... I dont really feel like they are anymore. I hope they can overcome theyr problems if they have ones.
@@claudiageana2451 tbh, we don't know anything for sure. What we have are theories and delusions that's why it is also our job to draw between the line. If your claim is correct, I hope they could fix whatever it is. But yeah, we should not overthink that much.
Another fact:
- Sungjae used to be not that active on instagram, but then when Joy opens her Instagram account, he became soo active. The funny thing is both Sungjae and Joy always post a photo one after another. Like when Joy upload her photo Sungjae would also upload his photo, and when Sungjae upload a photo first, Joy would also follow him to post something. But when a lot of people realize this, Sungjae back to him that rarely post a pic on insta.
- Before Sungjae solo is out, Joy always make her post 3 photo in one post, then 2 photo in one post, and then Sungjae solo 3x2=6 is out
- some time ago Joy always wear the same bracelet on several events and it turns out that bracelet is from baidu sungjoy bar
- there are a post in Joy instagram where she use blue outfit and give blue heart caption and then sungjae also post his photo with green shirt ;) 💙💚
- and you guys really need to check sungjae recent song called come with the wind. Cause the MV really look a like SUNGJOY!
OMG how did I not know/notice this?? Akdnsjsbs
What is sungjaes ig acc? Hahaha
@@worldwidehandsome1346 if i'm not mistaken it's @yook_can_do_it
@@hermione10 waaah found it! Thank youuu
Kawa Muhammad wtf is wrong with you 😂 they clearly made it obvious for their shippers. Why would they give hints if they want it to be VERY secretive? Plus no one is invading both Joy and Sungjae’s privacy? We ain’t no crazy sasaengs lmao get tf out of here if you dont like it idiot
*my theories on bbyu couple*
*Last episode of sungjoy WGM*
Joy sang a song to sungjae thats basically saying "Im still a kid but can you wait for me until i became a lady". Take note! before singing that, she told sungjae to listen carefully to the lyrics.
Which means, joy is not ready yet. She wants sungjae to wait for her until she is "ready". Thats why she was crying hard that time, she knows that will be the last time they will be together as a couple.
In the case of seungjae, i think he really wanted to be with joy, and he is ready and not afraid to be in a relationship(he also said personally that he wants to marry early). But ofc, he knows that joy can't be in a relationship. Cause first of all, Red velvet is still a rookie that time. And joy is still young. But despite this, he still asked joy if it is really over after filming. WHY? cause he still want to know what joy is feeling "that time". So when he heard the song that joy sang, he understood it.
After the filming ofc they probably talked. Knowing Sungjae, he probably comforted joy and told her that he will support her in her career. And to cheer up cause he will always be there for joy no matter what.
That explains what seungjae told in the interview that they are still comfortable with each other. But being careful cause of haters.
*After wgm*
this is my own fantasy but ever wonder who is joy's 1st kiss? She told in the interview that kissing in real life is so different in drama. Which means joy's 1st kiss is not on cam. Does it mean she has a bf? then whoooo?. We all know before WGM, Joy didn't have a boyfriend. So its either She had a boyfriend after WGM and experienced kissing or sungjae kissed her offcam after that last episode.
Anyways, thats just my fantasy created by my curiosity. Please ignore it.
Fast forward, when Joy suprised Sungjae via video message. Joy described their relationship in the video that they have "sister and brother relationship" but in the end. She told them that she realized "it is more than that" and that sungjae probably thought of her as "special".
With that alone, something probably happened behind the scenes that made her say that. And boi, i dont know what happened
Since joy is not afraid saying that oncam lets assume that they are "not yet" together.
Fast forward again, BTOB guested on a show where joy is one of the mc. You can see that they are sooo uncomfortable. Sungjae is better at hiding his uncomfort but you can clearly see sooyoung being uncomfortable.
But why would they be uncomfortable to each other? Sungjae said they didn't see each other after WGM. But that contradicted to what Joy said at the video message. So, why? i think after wgm. They only talked to each other for a while but then lost contact so they are now uncomfortable to each other. Which explains BTOB "missing you" and all members teasing sungjae in every possible time.
And then Fitz happened. I think this is where they become close again. Im not sure if they are together now. But i can say that Sungjae didnt move on. From 2016 to now, He is showing us how he misses someone. He is also mentioning indirectly his memories of them together during wgm.
So to those who are saying that joy loved him more that he loves her. You guys are wrong. Sungjae fell in love sincerely. Yes at the start, he is acting and joy is being honest. But he grew fond of joy over time. He started loving her more but didnt realized it. And when he realized it at the end. WGM ended, thats why he cant move on. Like what joy said, sungjae cant escape from her.
personally, i support them together and individually. If they dated someone else, ill be happy for them. I just want them to be happy. And if ever they are dating right now, i dont want dispatch to reveal their relationship because im still waiting for a drama together. I hope they act as a couple in the future. Their chemistry will be daebak!
edit: guys, sooyoung is dating someone now. Lets all be happy for her. But ofc i will be forever loyal to sungjae. Sungjoy couple will always be in my hearts. Let all wait for sungjae to come back. And support both of them individually ❤️ *Bye Bbyu* 😭
I agree with you !! The only thing I'm sure about is his feelings towards Joy. He still loves her
..agree to that👍😊😊
Same thoughts 😩❤️
their relationship in 2016 to 2018 I agree with you, in early 2017 they are not related anymore, but Sungjae is still waiting for Joy. but I feel sure they started connecting again in 2019 so now there are some clues connecting them, and the clues are very clear
I agree with your theory. I feel so safe and comforted now, some people were attacking me for shipping Sungjae and Joy..Hello my fellow shippers!!
I will come back here when an article release "BTOB'S SUNGJAE AND RED VELVET'S JOY ARE DATING!!!" OR MARRIED that's even better HAHAHA
yeah.. married is more better hahahah
they better married haha
Me too
better married HAHAHAHAHAH
yas
sungjoy taught me how to be patient and trust when it comes to love. If they will have their own partners in the future, i will continue in supporting them. I love them both even if they dont end up together.
Christine Realubit just the thought of it not ending together makes my heart broken otteokkke
Ur words mke me cry...missing thm...
@@corydizon3169 trust me, it really is 😭 i just hope that every decisions they make is always the best for them as long as it makes them happy, its our happiness too.
@@ka2m557 same feels 😭 still sungjoy. I don't know why some netizens think that the moments they spend tgt in wgm is only and just for the camera when I think it's not because it shows the progress from being shy from the first meeting and took time before they become close enough. I just think it is not scripted.
yes 😢
Once a bbyu shipper,Always a bbyu shipper!! eventhough i ship joy with so many handsome boys out there,at the end of the day im still rooting for Sungjae..This is my 1st ship,my 1st love couple,the reason why im into kpop now is bcoz of them..way to go bbyu couple i will support both of u individually..
End the end. SungJoy parin talaga 😍😭
@@carlaguiao6882 5 yrs na tayong umaasa Sungjoy parin😭
Hanggat wala pa silang ibang dini-date may pag-asa pa😊🙏
Can't agree more. . . Once you fall you can't back
The power of Bbyu
Red Velvet & Btob is life ♥
LETS ALL COME BACK HERE WHEN THEY ARE FINALLY TOGETHER PLEASE GOD THEY ARE PERFECT FOR EACH OTHER
i will manifest, lets all manifest
I still believe 👏 maybe after Sungjae’s military enlistment they’ll make it official
I just saw this actually. Hope everything turns out okay
Pray For SungJoy...
😭😭😭
Dear Joy and Sungjae,
If u r dating in secret, we totally support u. So please don't take the risk of making it public to take criticism from immature fans.
Thank u
Ughh.... I m crying... 😭😭
Hope these two live a happy life in the future....
the fact that the yook's mv "Come With The Wind" has references of bbyu couple. 👁👄👁
its.patriii 61 true!! The girl in the drawings of the photos looks just like Joy
YESSS IT IS JOY😝
That's what i was about to comment!!!
naniiii! gonna check it out now
The song its for Melody ( btob fandom) but the video the girl on the drawing looks like Joy
Joy is such a dream girl, she's compatible with a lot of guys. That's why you can see a lot of ships with her name on it, but for me SungJoy will be the strongest and realest ship among them. I am one of those fans wishing and waiting for them to happen. If not, I'm just gonna cry and move on. Ch0ur
Omo let's cry together 🤣Oh please Bbyu don't break our hearts 💔💔💔
Sungjae is equally admirable himself. I really hope they end up together 💙💚
@Odoreater same as Sungjae, Joy is a package too. 🔥
Yess omds😭
@@sonamelody9631 lol not just sungjae, it's a win win for both of them. 🤷♀️
Seungi: "Did you break up with your girlfriend?"
Sungjae: **laughs** "That's not what happened."
He didn't outright say NO or YES. But sort of hinted that they didn't break up. He just really like the poem to be used in a song... he he he.
Also, i think all of his solos in the album are based on his feelings for Joy. Come to think of it, his 3x2 = 6 solos are actually some kind of light novel. It has chronological clock to it. In fact his songs are all very symbolic of season, Winter being the cold, desolate season the reminded him of his breaking up with Joy and spring a renewal of sorts. I think it's really his and Joy's love story (told by his perspective).
His first set seemed to be the prologue. Both had the theme of a breaking up with the loved one and he told us how they couldn't be together. From Winter also had this kind of vibe on it. It described his initial feeling of the outbreak. I think separated here means a lot. It's not like Sungjae and Joy didn't love each other, but their agencies separated them. (I would say SM played the most part because it seemed that it's actually Joy that dumped him at first).
His second set seemed to be the intermediary, it told us how to 'cope' with the breakup. In W.A.U he lamented the breakup by listening to her favorite playlist alone and saying life is not like a movie. His Chicken song had a happy tune, but i think it hides a darker side. It has some kind of coping mechanism. The Chicken here doubles as a 'person' (role model) and food. An analogy that he learned from Chicken (i think this is also Joy) on how to life and adjust. He used the phrase san eun bop. Many shippers think this is from a Tae Joo's poem that described the only way to live was to think about her (Joy).
His third set is some kind of reconciliation. He definitely didn't brood as much as the two songs but i think this describes on his feelings and actions after the breakup. HMHN had that very odd digress that i think speak loud of Joy. The song was depressing until a very odd lyric came : 'It's gonna be mine oh mine, I.O.Y.' I think that described that despite his depression after the break up, he was also determined to take her back. This is i think what BtoB do in 2016. Even the normally passive RV seemed to play along with BtoB once. BtoB was very adamant in leaking their relationship to the public at that year. Hypnotized also has this kind of lyrics. His lyrics said that even the 'leaves changed', he will always stay at the same place. (Meaning he will always wait for Joy to come back.)
And his CWTW is an epilogue, the coming of spring as in new hope. Here we have the answers from his previous songs. The girl (Joy) did come back to him. But i think this is also hinting that Sungjae and the girl has some kind of Long-Distance-Relationship with Sami acting as the girl's reminder (like Jennie's dog named Kai). But this song is a declaration that he will never forget their memories even as he went (or Joy went) somewhere. Maybe this also had connotations with the present where he will go to the military service. So it's like a parting gift also.
You could say his song's lyrics all connected. I won't go in detail here, because i'm too lazy to elaborate it all.
Yes, all of this actually STRONGLY pointed all to Joy. His CWTW answered whom he was talking about in the past albums. I think Sungjoy is very likely real at this point. It's going to be odd if they have no relationship anymore since this had to be passed by both SM and CUBE.
Waaaah. Very well. I am amazed on how you pointed it out. Actually, even Hyunsik said when he was the guest on HYENA ON THE KEYBOARD, Sungjae is into producing music also. And we all know how genius Sungjae is when it comes to song titles and double meaning lyrics. I believe your theory is right. Because Sungjae is a lowkey genius music producer. He tends to hide meanings on songs. 👍👍👍❤️
Genius indeed 😍. I love all your interpretations. But can I know the reason why the song has to be passed by both SM and Cube ?
Yap me too.. I wanna know the reason why CWTW has to pass by sm entertainment when sungjae is under cube management???pls answer..
@Suci Han when I saw Joy's personality during WGM, I saw she was not an ordinary girl, she was special, intelligent, fast thinking, very emotional, and loving, she was a good girl, she used her heart more than people, this kind of person will be loyal and cherished someone to death
@@sonamelody9631 what,that really happened ?
tbh, i’ve never shipped any idol with another idol THIS INTENSE. not only was sungjoy super cute, but they also taught sum of us fans important keys to a relationship. NEVER say that sungjoy isn’t real because a person doesn’t look at a person the way sungjae looks at joy..
What people don’t realise is that this series went on for a while, of course if they both have the same type they will start catching feelings and that’s exactly what happened. The ending of their series really shows that joy wasn’t faking her cry, you can tell it was genuinely real and Sungjae was holding his tears back. They really both fell for each other. You cant make a series like this and expect them not to fall for each other. There are things called feelings.... I really hope they are together.
I don’t think they are - and I’m not sure they ever actually dated or Dispatch def would’ve come out with it at this point - but I really wish they were. I think the honest truth is they both did catch feelings and coincidentally RV got huge after the show (Joy in particular) so she had no time for dating, so Sungjae was kinda left on sidelines with no opportunities to really ask her out.
Not to mention given RV’s busy schedule & SM’s reputation I’m sure the company wouldn’t really allow it or at least didn’t encourage it. They knew Joy’s their money ticket and that with upcoming film gigs and increasing CFs dating anyone - especially another singer from a show she was on - would jeopardize her position. Bc if they did date, then when people watch her acting on other dramas or doing press interviews with her costars they will say “Oh well you can tell she’s dating Sungjae bc these two have no chemistry” or “No wonder she’s dating Sungjae. There’s nothing between these two here.”
So having her single and without scandal is important for her brand and image as a famous singer and an actress. It’s also important from another business standpoint: scheduling. The less time she has to date or see a bf, the more time she has to focus on work and land gigs. And “stay focused” as the asshole CEOs would say - esp SM.
Lastly, I’m not sure that when she was on WGM she was even contractually allowed to date at all? I know their dating ban is over now but idk about back then... So that might’ve been another reason things never panned out. Bc by the time ban was over too much time had passed between them so dating wouldn’t be possible anymore.
But honestly I still think the real reason is not a dating ban. I think it’s bc of Joy & RV’s increasingly busy schedule after the show. I mean its no doubt that their group became more famous after 2015/16 and that Joy’s fandom grew exponentially as she turned more and more into a mature woman & talented actress. Meanwhile although BTOB is successful and Sungjae is an amazing actor/singer it’s not even comparable. (I mean I think he & the group are WIDELY underrated so don’t get me wrong - I think it’s really unfair/sad.) So it’s no surprise to me that while Sungjae has been rumored to have dated & had gfs since then, Joy hasn’t. It’s bc he’s had time to and his company has been more lax since there’s less eyes on him, while Joy barely has time to breathe with a packed schedule and SM’s notoriously strict eyes watching and monitoring her.
Point is, that’s why I think Sungjae wasn’t lying on that variety show when he says he hasn’t met with her since WGM bc she’s been so busy (he said they’ve both been busy but the implication was clear after she laughed and said “No, no, it’s not like that.. I’ve just been too busy” You can see she felt bad and that he wasn’t wrong.) But I don’t think this is for a lack of feeling: I think it’s very obvious on the show that she started to have real feelings for him. I think his feelings were slower to develop (much more like “Lets have fun, it’s a show!” & “Oh this girl is different/strange haha but maybe we can be friends”) but at the end he thought he would miss her as a little sister since they truly got close but then looking back he realizes he truly had feelings beyond that for her. With dudes sometimes it takes a sec, and Sungjae is def the funny immature playful type so I’m sure it didn’t really hit him till after, that maybe he liked her as more than just a close “noona.”
I think as he started dating other idols he realized even more how special and unique their time & connection was. He started missing her and regretting his actions even more as years went by, but worried it was too late now and too far gone. That’s why I do believe the song “Come With the Wind” is about Joy. A part of me does believe it might be delulu & far fetched, but another part really does see all the hints and similarities people have picked up on. Still, I’m not denying that it could be a coincidence and fans have gone nuts from lack of content haha.
But I dunno, I really do think that unfortunately they never dated or Dispatch wouldve come out w it at this point. I know some people think it was kept a secret from fan backlash but that’s not true bc at this point the Bbyu fandom is larger than any antis. So that’s def not the reason at all. And I don’t think it’s that they were good at hiding it/dating in secret bc I really don’t think Joy had any time to date at all between her schedule as RV member and recurring actress. That’s an overwhelming schedule, so I think that’s the real answer.
But I do think Sungjae’s heart is still with her but he feels it’s too late now and that she’s too popular for him/he missed his chance. As for Joy idk. On the show it was easy to read her feelings but it’s been more difficult since then bc she has so little freedom and is not allowed to freely express herself in song or on social media. So it’s tough to know how she feels. I think she did truly like him on the show towards the end but didn’t think it was reciprocated. I think she was insecure and in her heart felt he didn’t see her in a romantic way but as a protective older brother. (And I think he was giving her those signs bc that is how he thinks he felt at the time.) And now I just think she’s too busy so it’s not on her mind as much. I think she’s “moved on” but still holds a soft spot for him in her heart. Like a fond memory of her innocence and when she was less busy and could be more herself. She just thinks he never reciprocated her feelings and since he never REALLY reached out in a romantic way after the show she thought they are just friends. And then as years went by, that fizzled too. (on her end.)
But I do think she wants a love life and I do wish that for her bc I just want to see her happy. I think being successful can only bring you so much joy as an idol, you know? I think time to have a partner and feel normal is just as important. But personal time is a luxury not many idols are afforded, sadly...
Sorry, this was like an essay. I’m really sorry for such a long rant. Just wanted to express my hypothesis based on facts I see. I do wish they could come together at some point in future and give each other a chance, bc I think they are so well suited and had something special. And it’s a shame not to give smth you want a shot just bc you didn’t have time before. Truth is Sungjae, it may feel awkward, but it’s never too late! And sometimes its worth at least taking the shot. But if they don’t end up dating someday, then I just hope they’re happy w whoever they choose and that they find someone great! Bc they both deserve it.
#EndofEssay
Yes, that is feeling
This is the best video on youtube, I sometimes felt distrubed when someone said that during wgm, joy love subgjae more than sungjae love her, and theres also someone said that joy had a one sided love, but if u watch wgm and pay more attention on detailed things, i think sungjae really really love her, as much as she does or maybe even more than joy does
- sungjae is a really deep person and he said that he cant express thing well, deep person cant fall in love easily, but they also cant forget the one they love easily too (watch wgm ep 314 when they ate jokbal, when they tell their memorable moment in summer, sungjae said its when their first meeting; its a sign that hes a deep person)
- Sungjae is a really detailed person, and he also a person that rlly obsessed about something with hidden meaning (for example number 6 (yook)) He also said that he’s sentimental person, [if u watch wgm wheres sungjae and joy visit museum u will know why]
-when sungjae prepared an event for joy (ep 36/311 if im not mistaken) he really prepared it for 3 MONTHS, and the idea is from HIMSELF. Its not a mission from WGM, and that’s mean that Sungjae prepared the event with HIS OWN budget and idea. He really care about detailed things, “i love you” cake, joy name that aranged from candles, sungjae and joy pict, candy, piano, surprise event at basement, etc
- when sungjae give a surprise event for joy at basement (unaired ep) eunkwang (wgm panelist) was shooked and explained that made an event is really not sungjae’s style
- when sungjae sing “ I love you “ for joy, changsub and hyunsik also look surprised, changsub jokingly said that sungjae totally lose his mind that day, but i think its not just a joke lmao. And if u saw the unaired ep when sungjae sing this song, u will see the sincere inside of him and again, sungjae’s ears dont lie, at the end u can see how red they are. (He said that he cant express thing well so he express his feeling with song)
Exactly and I feel so sad when people misunderstands sungjae 😧
Joy is typical of straight forward girl. She will say she likes it if she likes it. Otherwise, sungjae more likely someone who has hard time to express himself. But usually guy like this is a loyal one once they are in relationship because he actually really in love with the girl but just hard to express it
Waaaaaa I'm really happy reading all of the comments here 😍 Huhuhu I really believe in Bbyu 💙💚
There's a lot coincidence and a lot of hints especially from joy! I remember one of her instagram post, it was a photo when she's in jeju island with a caption "jeju island 💚💙" and i feel like that's a hint! And also in 2017 and 2018, i think someone already commented about this, but it was a video? Like a btob video (i'm not a part of the fandom, sorry) and i can totally hear joy's and wendy's voice in the background!!!! I'm a reveluv so i can tell that was their voices!!
So to sum up, i think they did break up after wgm, because in the last episode of wgm, joy said that she's not prepared enough to have a serious relationship and she wants sungjae to wait for her. But, sungjae is actually the one who really wants to continue the relationship even right after the program ends, if we look at the lyrics, it said that he wants joy to hug and stay with him. I think that's a very important clue. And then fast forward to 2018, i think they become closer and start the relationship in 2018. Because like what i just said, the clue is : that btob video and also a fancam where they were in an award show(?) and they keep trying to look at each other even tho they are far from each other. And another strong hint is when ilhoon saying "umpah umpah" randomly when there's a notification, and then, when ilhoon said "congratulations for your marriage", it was SO RANDOM but it was such a strong hint. And then 2020, i don't need to mention it again, but Come with the wind really reminds us of their story. I know that it wasn't just all about sungjoy, but i'm sure that joy is involved in the song, esp when you look at the lyric "a gift that came back to me" as you all probably knew, they always talk about gift in wgm! "Gift" is something that was mentioned a lot by them back then! Like in their first meeting, joy gives a surprise to sungjae and she said "the gift is me" to sungjae, and then, when they were in a beach, when sungjae asked to joy, what does she think of 2015? And then joy said that, "2015 is a gift for me", she explained the gifts are : red velvet winning in music show, red velvet finally release an album, and also meeting sungjae. She said sungjae is her gift. And also in the last episode, she said that sungjae is a precious gift to her! 💖 So joy mentioned gift a lot in the program and even their first meeting is about a gift 🥺
Its already 4 years, we still believe that Sungjoy is true, *PLS GOD MAKE THEM REALLY HAPPY TOGETHER*
Tbh this is one of the only couples based off of actual evidence and not just delusions. People don’t look into the facts. Instead they just compare it to every other rumored couple.
Time will tell though. Excellent video 👏
Sungjae has this song titled "Tell me" and it was released last 2017. The lyrics.. everything about that song tells about bbyu's break up. How Sungjae misses Sooyoung and how hard it was for him. You can even listen to it rn and tell me I'm wrong. Then this year, They released the song "Come with the wind". This is a strange strong for all the bbyu shippers. The music video and the lyrics. There's a part of the lyrics that said, "you who came back to me", it's questionable for us. Sungjae told everyone that the girl in the MV represents melodies. But melodies never leave him or even BtoB, so I don't think that girl really represents melody.
yup
OMG TRUE SIZ !!
Agree
the show was fake but all those things that happened to them. it's not something that you just can say "fake" because we all know, at some moment, they were starting to get real. what happened between them, it was all real. they shared something real. that's why even until now, this ship isn't still sinking. but if someday, they'll find someone and start dating. i will be happy genuinely and will still support them. because at some point, they made me believe that love knows no time and right place. if you feel it, oh boy, you just do! i really wish they will have a drama in the future. i would really love that. bbyu♥︎
at 2:36 the fact that he didn't even deny that "broke up with girlfriend" but even proceeded to explain and said "that's not what happen" lol sungjae got speechless for a second
and also in an episode of Get it Beauty backstage break where Yoonju and Joy did a "bye-to-being-single pouch" and Joy was good at explaining at how she gonna pull off a first date and then Yoonju told her "It was from experience" "she has experience" and then joy just said she have seen in a drama many times hahaha
True! He looked so flustered there... And when he said "that's not what happened" I thought, ok it's because they are so together! 😁
omg lmao i also noticed that, in get it beauty hhahah i just laughed why joy is really expert about those things
@@jessiev2353 i think he said that because in the first place they are not really couple but they like each other. I think he's saying that he misses her but not to the point that they broke up.
2020 and still here,waiting for them to got married for real
Lhesly Talon me too
Me too 😍😍😍
sameeee
Same😍
I read a comment somewhere and I also believe it.
They have been dating for awhile now and even after Sungjae revealing so much about his love for Joy (like the one about poem and phone call etc.), there hasn’t been any news released about them (apart from the Yook album relating to Joy). It’s probably because Sungjae has a strong influence and connection and he has been protecting Joy and their relationship all this while. Just like the way he’s hasn’t revealed much about his family. Kyaa~
He’s such a keeper. So is Joy. Hard to find ppl like them in this world. I believe in them!! #bbyu all the way!!
I hope this is true omg 😢
The fact is that we have lost many shippers after joy got casted in many dramas and other variety shows...but it doesn't matter...the one who still ships them is the loyal one and not fake
#Stillbelieve #bbyuforlife
bbyu ship is stronger, bc it was real.
this is the one of reason why they should drama together 🙇🏻♀️🙇🏻♀️🙇🏻♀️
Okay the katalk one then Ilhoon suddenly sing "Umpah Umpah". There's no other explanation that can explain that situation other than it was a katalk from Sooyoung😂😂 and Sungjae reaction after Ilhoon sing Umpah Umpah is telling us the truth😂😂
Trueee. Im shocked at the umpah umpah ktalk msg and when ilhoon say congrats to him for the wedding 😮
Ilhoon knows everything kekeke~
@englishteacher skhmc which beatcom..ep?
@englishteacher skhmc thanks💚💙
There's something I've noticed, RV's Umpah Umpah was released Sept. 2019 while this incident happened Aug. 2019. OMG!!! They are real...
Me: already starting to ship Joy with another man.
Also me, esp after watching this: sungjoy is 100% REAL
I feel ya. I already ship Joy with like 20 other guys, but, at the same time - its 2020 and still hard for me to get over SungJoy.
ㅋ ㅋ ㅋ ㅋ ..I almost shipped joy with woodowan but ..but...I can't get over sungjoy 😅..
Same here...I shipped Joy with that ML from tempted but then I saw this guy and I was like....they need to get married in real ASAP
RIGHT! I saw a vjoy video that convinced me that vjoy is real and then this video literally just yeet vjoy video out of my brain
We gonna talk about how Sungjae said his lover is the waves and Joy's actual name, Sooyoung, means to swim in Korean??
c. gwakamole at the moment they are fixing my pc, but when i get it back we will talk about that and much more..😏
I just noticed it now 😮 wah
It just breaks my heart. Not that I don't support Joy and crush together but you know when you were invested in a thing for too long and suddenly it just gets over like that...
I still can’t get over them 😞
Samee
I love how Joy is not trying at all to be cute. She just is. Effortlessly without cringe cute and sexy at the same time.
Look at the new music video that was released for Sungjae's new song 'Come with The Wind'. It ahows his love for Sami, Melodies, and his hyungs but it also shows a girl. The girl may refer to Melody but most of the scenes look like they came straight out of WGM.....
Joy melody
Joy is a melody too she once said that...But if he wanna represent melodies,why didn't he use a different girl with different looks(not similar to joy)....Nd why did he use pics referring to wgm...When we think about that,it's kinda clear that it's joy
Ps : It's also for melodies 💙
How can he leave out his favourite melodies ❤💙
It's kinda weird when a melody says all this stuff 😅😅
@@sonamelody9631 saying this means you have a pure heart unlike some immature fans out there. You rock 😉
@@theunkownch331 aww thanks ♥️😊
Also guys did you all notice the date in the calender march 11?
It said "Day off"
Do you all remember during wgm in one of the episodes they marked "Day off for bbyu couple" on the same date 🙈
I think it's like one of the biggest hints you know♥️😊
I hope you all noticed that
I lost it when that btob member randomly said "umpah umpah" after that sms. THIS SHIP IS SUPER REAL...for now, since there's still no rumor about each other's partner.
It's actually pretty amazing how are they really connected to each other even with the tiniest things. SJ loves fishing/fishes while SY's name means swimming in korean. SJ's name means star in korean and SY really loves night time. SJ really loves number 6 while SY's birth month is september which is the 9th month and if you'll gonna flip 9 it would turn to 6. SY looks a bit like SJ's mom and SJ is pretty similar to SY's dad. And the most fascinating thing is before WGM, they're totally different but when they met each other they slowly became similar to each other. I mean, that only happens to real married couples who are deeply in love to each other. "Becoming one" is pretty hard to achieve and it takes a very long time. They have too many similarities that I keep on wondering if they are a reincarnation of a twin siblings, or they are great lovers in their past lives. If I didn't know that wgm is a reality show, I would think that it was just a drama or some kind of fictional and all about them from their personalities up to their personal profiles and background was all planned. There's too many reasons to hold on to this ship so I will keep holding onto it.
YES tbh I think Sungjoy are twinflames brought together in this life purposefully 🤭👍
Why is this so underrated?
TRUEEEE
The hyungs never lied...
The umpah umpah kktalk really got me😂 also one more thing I notice is that the song that SJ sang for J when they first met, the lyrics is “you came to me like a spring breeze” and his new solo song is “come with the wind” I think they’re somehow “related”. Just as long as they’re not dating anyone, I still support them
their chemistry is no joke :(
Hater is gonna hate, as long as we keep loving our cute Bbyuu couples then we’re strong. Sungjoy teach me love, understanding and happiness and I will love them forever. Thank you so much for this video and let continue to love our cute couple!!!
Yeah agree 😂 Haters really gonna hate but who cares we believe in Bbyu Couple 😍💚💙 Fighting SungJoy!
"Sungjae smiles joyfully" 😭🌺
Plot twist: Sungjae was that crazy fanboy of Joy's
😂😂😂
Lol..🤣🤣🤣tbh this is what I also am thinking.. it's nice that we both think the same way..🤣🤣
the one who's yelling Joy's name?
😂😂😂 Imagine!
@@martinedevera8952 they did a show together, We Got Married
Honestly this couple seems like they are made for each other. Normally wgm couples are paired up only after interviewing about their ideal types and stuff. But Sungjae was not interviewed because PD nim was so amazed when he saw Sungjae. She was like "He was made for Joy" so she didn't bother to interview him. But just imagine if he was interviewed ?? We may never see bbyu couple together since Sungjae was into older girls before. So WGM will pair him with a Noona only. This seems like a destiny for me. Even after the show ended , fate kept bringing them together. I am amazed by this beautiful couple 🥰❤
We melody are really ready to accept if they date and they officially announce it we will be the happiest persons... as both melody and Bbyu shippers... I too hope they date eachother... if not also it doesn't matter unless we love them ....
this video actually makes a lot of sense probably the only ship video with actual proof
ive been bbyu couple fan since wgm and i did be glad to see them together and its sad that idols cant date freely cause the public feel like they can have an opinion on everything they do
Okay, I hurt myself again by watching the last episode of WGM and that was a pretty dumb decision I made by hurting myself more. I love this ship for years and its quite impressive to see detailed coincidences, huhuhu.
For 2020, in the midst of this pandemic, SUNGJOY, I STILL BELIEVE IN YOU.
I even decided not to watch the last episode, my heart is very broken
Joy dating someone and I still believe in this couple 😭💙❤️
I really miss them being together
I really dont understand this kpop fans worried if their idol being in love with someone. If it was me, i would be pretty happy and pray for them, at least he/she has someone to be relied on at tough times. And it really is normal to have someone right?
And for them, i think sungjae really like joy. Because thats the gesture i gave to my wife before we got together. Always wanting to see her even a glimpse of her and get close to her as much as i can.
dude you actually just CAN'T deny this, this video is so well put together everything is so valid especially that last bit of BTOB as well, mates always know what's good. the timing of their jokes is not any coincidence e.g. "umpah umpah"
Become bbyu shipper since day 1, these past 6 year I always believe that maybe sungjae and joy will announce their relationship someday at the right time..
I just wanna share something to you in order to release my sadness, I think before she with crush, she always love sungjae. Her variety like pajamas friend and get it beauty whenever she asked about her ideal type she always say someone who is cute but sexy, look rought outside but soft inside. As bbyu shipper, isn't we easly point out that was sungjae? That was on 2019 back then.
Until not long time ago on jessi interview when joy asked about her ideal type guy, she said that someone who sweet and nice (after hearing that i was like hm she change her ideal type but since sungjae was nice and sometimes sweet i still think it was sungjae, but after dating news broke up I understand why her answer changed and I assume that she already move on from sungjae at that time).
When she said day by day is her fav song, i always saw many shipper think it was sungjae but if i looked back that was never related anymore with sungjae, even joy solo album (although we never ever know what really happen between sungjae n joy).
I always follow their journey but i think maybe they ever dated and already try their best to each other. Sungjae is someone who has a great wall in everything he do, always think and being sooo careful with his action and joy someone who try her best to understand sungjae (base on wgm 6 year ago).
If i looked back at wgm episode there are so many times joy happy if sungjae lead her manly, but most of time is joy who lead sungjae (although sungjae try his best to match with joy type as manly and expressive person).
Ever u think that maybe as time goes, they try to be couple, try their best to match each other than realized that they can't be together because the different of their love language and having different love language is a hard thing to accept to make a relationship last long with their busy schedule and idol life?
Many of you disappointed with this situation (although is normal to us as bbyu shipper).
But how if sungjae that give up first on joy after try his best?
Or with this dating news, how if joy give up on sungjae first after try her best?
Will we happy if they become couple but not feeling happy toward each other?
But again we never know the real story that happen right, all from our imagination 😔
I think this situation are their best, I'm so glad that sungjae joy meet at wgm, two of them are really good person and kind hearted person, they give impact and learn about each other. Even in the end they just meet to gave a lesson not final destination.
Crush such a good man, he seems like joy first. All i hope is he will take care, take responsibility and lead joy well in their relationship.
And i wish all the best for sungjae too, someday when he is ready, i hope he will find someone who can understand him as someone who can't express his feeling well but will take care and responsibility really really well behind 💙
As I think that, i become more peace..
Sorry for my long comment n my bad english.
Hope all of my friends (bbyu shipper) will be fine n happy soon ❤
Im glad im not the only one shipping them together after 4 years... Like im not even in their respective fandoms, but they just scream couple since wgm
This is great and this doesn't even cover everything. Joy's IG post with 326 photos, the drunk sungjae singing missing you. And when sungjae practicing love pain choreo, right after Ilhoon randomly sang umpah umpah, he immediately did the wrong moves after doing so well earlier. Also in From Winter, the guy look at the aloe-look-like plant right when the lyrics are 'noreul geuryeo' which means 'drawing you'.
But these are just coincidences alright...
What happened when sj sung missing you while drunk?
@@randomestburger9011 He's crying while singing the song.😣😭
@@lynngaballo4882 oh my goshhh.. how long was that after the end of wgm? T.T
@@randomestburger9011 yes. year 2017 I think
I'm so happy for Joy now with Crush :') and Sungjae wherever he is or whatever he plans on doing now. I just missed this ship and their WGM episodes were my comfort. I wish them all the best! 🥺❤️
I JUST FINISHED WGM SUNGJOY THIS 2020 AND NOW IM CRYING THAT THEY ARE NOT DATING ಥ‿ಥ
Not dating
Same tho
Wait what site did you use, I can't find it
@@Gretaisworking I just watched it in Facebook
Who knows btw
I will ship them till the end . I don't care if others think they are fake. I don't care if others don't want them to be together. I don't care what they say coz I know in my heart that they belong to each other. :) I have a strong faith of the two of them. Bbyu fighting!!!!!! 😊💪
I may ship joy from other guys(because she's shippable lol), but I'm never ever gonna give this Sungjoy up, this couple is still number 1 n my heart. Will always wish them together. I will only stop dreaming bout them if they have someone else and confirmed by themselves
It's almost 2021 but still bbyu shippers family is still growing because a lot of people love their chemistry. Let's all wait for the right time. They already did a duet song 'Young Love' and an advertisement which is 'Fitz' so let's wait for sungjae in 2021 or 2022 because he's currently serving in the military. In 2021 or 2022 please give them a drama, it'll be a hit. Or just give us an update of your dating status🤣💙
Date check: July 3 2021. I'll come back here when their dating news finally come out.
Sadly joy and crush dating news came first 😔😔
I just finished watching Sungjae's reaction to the music video of his song "Come with the wind". Some of the fans are saying that the music video was based on Sungjae and Joy memories in WGM. I think Sungjae and his agency decided to make the reaction video to explain and to clear some things because the netizens are dragging Joy's name again. Whatever may happen in the future, we will support our uri Maknae especially in his lovelife, whoever may be the lucky girl will own Sungjae's heart. ❤️
When hyungs also byuu shippers... Hahahaha
I believe they fall in love each other , how sungjae look at joy it's really mean everything.
Not gonna lie, I watched WGM because of these two and I ended watching WGM after it was their last time together. They were like my favorite couple back then. I miss them together so much.
I love and miss Bbyu. The fact that Joy got her ears pierced with Sungjae just makes me think of Bbyu everytime I see her wear earrings which basically is always!!
I love Sungjoy. Also, Joy is the prettiest when she's with Sungjae.
fact
Fact bro
Its like saying that, "we had the right love at the wrong time"..
Oh, i think everyone is support to this couple cause there's no reason to not love them✨
And I just think, if they really dating in real life, i mean, they just can announce it and we will support✨💙💚
And recently I know there are people don't support this couple too😔
Dating or not, I will still support them. No matter what. I love them not only as 'bbyu couple' but as Red Velvet Joy and BtoB Yook Sungjae. 💚💚
even if haters deny it or anyone saying it was over, they can't deny that these two wonderful people hold so much power as a couple. We may not confirm what they had felt was real, only them, but we also don't have the right to invalidate what they have shared were their own moments to cherish. I miss them. They both deserve the best. ❤️
also kudos to wonderfully making and explaining everything in this video editornim
I am hurting myself, went back to watch after the dating news of joy and crush. 😭😭😭😭 my bbyu heart huhuhu
Yt algorithm brought me here after a long time hahaha.. And what a right timing, just when I'm about to delude myself again. A news of Joy confirming her dating rumor with Crush came out.. hahahahaha I was just wishing for a dating rumor of Joy this coming November but it blew up early and with another man 😭 Still congrats Sooyoungie hoping for your happy relationship. Fighting! ✊
Before I shipped hard SongSong couple and they become true in real life , but I feel sorry after their divorce..
and I really hope BBYU will end up together , getting married and have happy family .. you know what I mean right ?? I’m still believe with them , idk why ... this is just my feeling!
I was not into wgm prgrm before...since I am a melody I just took a look only because of sungjae....I am not kidding but I could really see the love between them tho....sungjae behaves really different in front of joy Nd his ears always turns red too 😂 (We melodies know when that happens lol)
The show might be scripted but their stares and feelings for each other cannot be scripted ❤❤...sungjae is the only person who could make joy laugh like crazy and vice versa...On the final concert joy was crying with hiccups....jeez how could you fake that??? If that was an act she deserves an Oscar lol😆....I still believe them and hope to see them together in the future ❤❤
Ps:But why do I feel like joy has moved on already and sungjae hasn't😣
All songs of sungjae seems like it's dedicated for joy...seems like a one sided love...but I am still shipping them 😊
Oh gosh, sometimes i really think that they split up too, and sungjae didn't move on, like u think. But what makes me doubt that is the pranks that Hyungs still pull on him about her. I mean, if it is over, and he is sad or not over it, they would not hurt him like this, reminding and joking about her.
@@taynahamaro2702 I don't get why I still ship them lol 😂...Coz there were no interactions b/w them for"4 DAMN YEARS"...But it's really hard to move on from sungjoy...maybe they are secretly dating and they are not letting us know It...maybe that's why his hyungs tease him 😂❤....Well my sungjoy heart melted when I saw his recent MV...I hope you saw that too
Soo many bbyu vibes 💓💓
So good to hear that not only us revelus but also melodies ship them too
@@asteria8100 so happy that reveluvs support them too Aww ❤
@@sonamelody9631 can't even ship Joy with another person... Sungjoy ship has been sailing for four years lol
sungjae seemed like he was so in love with joy. i can see from his eyes, from his gesture, from how he took care of joy. how i pray they could be back tgt, but i'm gonna feel bad for crush. crush is a good person, so sungjae too. whatever it is, i'll let the heaven decides which is best for everyone
But how tf the hints were so perfect
I've been waiting for your videos for a long time but it seems like you already stop shipping them so I just keep repeating old videos of sungjoy and now here you are posting a video for 20 mins of them I'm very thankful 🤧💓
Deep in my heart saying that Seungjae still have feelings for Joy but Joy move on already but deep in her heart she still think about him. AAA being an idol is not easy especially when it comes to love. I hope they will end up together one day T_T
I don't think Joy moved on
simply BTOB are used to "taking risks" by doing and saying everything an idol shouldn't say and do (according to the rules of their company). while RV no. they are more careful in what they say.
BtoB members did not originally want to be an idol group, they wanted to be either a band or solo performers/music producers. They are the best selling and produce the most income for their agency (even with 3 members inactive). So, they have a lot more freedom than other idols. Plus, a) they are not with one of the “big 3” agencies and b) they started as a group with breaking the “ideal image” of idols back when they debuted. They consciously chose to not allow the “fans/netizens” to dictate their actions. It is why their fandom is not as large as others but are mostly more mature and understanding because their fans appreciate seeing the real people and not a fake “image”.
Cindi Harbison I agree if there from a big agency I think they would have very famous
“Is a gift, you who came back to me” Come with the Wind by Yook Sungjae. Really thought this meant they found their way back to each but ig that was not the story.
Came here after joys news of dating crush and well what can I say… my bbyu heart is broken 😞 but I wish nothing but the best to Joy and Crush 🎆. I will continue to support each of them individually from now on🤍🤍.
That peekaboo gesture...he also used it in their cf fitz and Joy doing/posing the gesture on only one for me😭 i kennat with these two. There are absolutely codes that we need to decode bbyu fams and they literally feeding us. huhuhu
Have you guys seen sj’s new mv “come with the wind”? the scenes there were memories of him and joy in wgm. They’re dating and that’s FACTS.
this, then sungjae's new MV Come with the wind !!! Bbyu couple is real!!!!😍😍😍❤
Im not fan of kpop but after watching sungjoy wgm just last year 2019. I became interested in red velvet, btob, become fan of joy and checking songs and lyrics made by sungjae. And now one of these people who wants happiness and more success for these couple. Hoping to see them again in their real marriage. 😁
sungjae did say after he met joy he kind of changed his ideal type and the fact that ideal types can change after meeting someone.
The possibility about his song
Yook land
Maybe they are separated or break up
After they show their relationship in oct 2016 at KBS youth and their agency separate them.
im actually sure sungjae made this song in early 2017 too.
they’re such a perfect couple ☹️ like i seriously would not mind if they were together. they genuinely looked happy with each other. other fans need to understand that if having a significant other makes them happy then so be it. why should idols be unhappy just because their fans don’t like something they do ? idols should be free to do and love whoever they want, they’re humans too, they have feelings just like the rest of us.
SM's gonna debut a new gg this year... let's wait if there will be dating news coming out..
for those who are not SM stans.. the reason that I said this is because everytime SM debut a new group their previous group will have a dating scandal.. like when RV debut Sulli dating news came out, NCT debut Kai and Krystal's news came, WayV debut Kai and Jennie's news came.. and those news came out few days/weeks before SM confirmed their new group
I don't want their relationship to be public tho...I am damn sure it will cause trouble for them
Nothing info dating
I'm not a fan of both of them before, i just know that RV that time and that sungjae was also from a kpop group. After watching WGM, i got to cry, laugh and fangirl to the both of them. I can't believe at first that this ship was that powerful to the point that i gotta really ship them badly bc i can see the chemistry is on another level compared to the scripted kdramas. I still miss them and i will continue to support this ship in the future!
Wow.. I feel so emotional after watching this video. You're right!!!! There are more reasons to believe in Bbyu than to not!! And we don't loose anything when we ship these two, rather we gain happiness and inspiration!!! I just hope Bbyu shippers won't entertain haters anymore and won't go beyond the line as well. Let's keep believing in Sungjae and Joy and support them!!! 쀼 ♥♥♥x♥♥
Yeah it’s me. I am still waiting for reunion of Bbyu in the future 😢 I really miss Bbyu 😢 2023.08.26
Couldn't agree more. BBYU couple felt so real that I just can't let go of them. And the variety shows (one of them visit) sometimes inserts
things about the other. I just can't help but hope they will be together in the future if not now (because there selfish fans who wants tgeir idol to be single). Can't imagine myself if either one of them is in a relationship with other people otger than bbyu. BBYU FOREVER
the fact that this is uploaded 11 months ago says a lot about this ship! DISPATCH REVEAL BBYU COUPLE JUSEYOOOOO
Maybe it’s time for part 2 ? 🤔
@@MArtRevengetube yes please. Been waiting for months already
@@alfrinaalex2114 i'm working on it!
@@MArtRevengetube yes please im begging you😭
@@MArtRevengetube oh that's good to here😭
My Crush on Red Velvet is Joy since their happiness era and Sungjae is my crush in BTOB since I discovered them(their ballads, mwah!!! Bravo!!!!) DON'T TOUCH OUR BBYU SHIP!!!
THEY SAY THAT IT'S NOT OVER UNTIL ONE OF THEM GETS IN A RELATIONSHIP......
I SAY IT'S NOT OVER UNTIL IT'S OVER, UNTIL ONE OF THEM GET "MARRIED"💙💚
I guest there’s never too late to become bbyu shipper. I have faith for them to be together.
I honestly think there is no point for "fans" to hate on them dating each other, they look so happy together, I see no reason why "fans" need to be against their relationship Im pretty sure I'm gonna get hate comments but idc I love sungjoy 💞💞
Tbh such people are not fans...true fans would always support their idols and would love to see their happiness
To haters; we LOVE sungjoy. You hate sungjoy as a couple. Back off. The ship is strong with or without haters
I thought that I'm the only one who can't move on from this lovely couple after all these years but...
I'm not alone😭
Every time i lose hope i just watch this video
Here after news about joy and crush broke out. Looks like we really were delulu😭😭😭😭😭😭
Ig 😭
Yes we were