Not gonna lie, I watched WGM because I had a big crush on Joy. After watching WGM, I had a big crush on their relationship. THE SHIP CONTINUES TO SAIL!!
sungjoy taught me how to be patient and trust when it comes to love. If they will have their own partners in the future, i will continue in supporting them. I love them both even if they dont end up together.
@@corydizon3169 trust me, it really is 😭 i just hope that every decisions they make is always the best for them as long as it makes them happy, its our happiness too.
@@ka2m557 same feels 😭 still sungjoy. I don't know why some netizens think that the moments they spend tgt in wgm is only and just for the camera when I think it's not because it shows the progress from being shy from the first meeting and took time before they become close enough. I just think it is not scripted.
No please don't ! You should stop shipping them when they will marry someone else... yeah that's more surreal.... Dating means nothing... Marrying, now that's a big thing !
Our motto is: As long as SJ and SY are not dating/marrying someone else, this ship will continue to sail. 💚💙 This is also the reason why I don't want their relationships be known to the public. Let's just pray for the best and protect these two! 💗 (08/23/21) EDIT: JOY and CRUSH are confirmed to be dating. Thank you SungJoy. You will always have a special place in our hearts.
But dont you feel like the new album is kind of sad...? It was like sungjae was expressing his feelings after a broke up (not the wgm one... im talking about something more recent) ... im kind of worried about this ship... but i do believe they were together for some years... its just... I dont really feel like they are anymore. I hope they can overcome theyr problems if they have ones.
@@claudiageana2451 tbh, we don't know anything for sure. What we have are theories and delusions that's why it is also our job to draw between the line. If your claim is correct, I hope they could fix whatever it is. But yeah, we should not overthink that much.
Once a bbyu shipper,Always a bbyu shipper!! eventhough i ship joy with so many handsome boys out there,at the end of the day im still rooting for Sungjae..This is my 1st ship,my 1st love couple,the reason why im into kpop now is bcoz of them..way to go bbyu couple i will support both of u individually..
Another fact: - Sungjae used to be not that active on instagram, but then when Joy opens her Instagram account, he became soo active. The funny thing is both Sungjae and Joy always post a photo one after another. Like when Joy upload her photo Sungjae would also upload his photo, and when Sungjae upload a photo first, Joy would also follow him to post something. But when a lot of people realize this, Sungjae back to him that rarely post a pic on insta. - Before Sungjae solo is out, Joy always make her post 3 photo in one post, then 2 photo in one post, and then Sungjae solo 3x2=6 is out - some time ago Joy always wear the same bracelet on several events and it turns out that bracelet is from baidu sungjoy bar - there are a post in Joy instagram where she use blue outfit and give blue heart caption and then sungjae also post his photo with green shirt ;) 💙💚 - and you guys really need to check sungjae recent song called come with the wind. Cause the MV really look a like SUNGJOY!
Kawa Muhammad wtf is wrong with you 😂 they clearly made it obvious for their shippers. Why would they give hints if they want it to be VERY secretive? Plus no one is invading both Joy and Sungjae’s privacy? We ain’t no crazy sasaengs lmao get tf out of here if you dont like it idiot
*my theories on bbyu couple* *Last episode of sungjoy WGM* Joy sang a song to sungjae thats basically saying "Im still a kid but can you wait for me until i became a lady". Take note! before singing that, she told sungjae to listen carefully to the lyrics. Which means, joy is not ready yet. She wants sungjae to wait for her until she is "ready". Thats why she was crying hard that time, she knows that will be the last time they will be together as a couple. In the case of seungjae, i think he really wanted to be with joy, and he is ready and not afraid to be in a relationship(he also said personally that he wants to marry early). But ofc, he knows that joy can't be in a relationship. Cause first of all, Red velvet is still a rookie that time. And joy is still young. But despite this, he still asked joy if it is really over after filming. WHY? cause he still want to know what joy is feeling "that time". So when he heard the song that joy sang, he understood it. After the filming ofc they probably talked. Knowing Sungjae, he probably comforted joy and told her that he will support her in her career. And to cheer up cause he will always be there for joy no matter what. That explains what seungjae told in the interview that they are still comfortable with each other. But being careful cause of haters. *After wgm* this is my own fantasy but ever wonder who is joy's 1st kiss? She told in the interview that kissing in real life is so different in drama. Which means joy's 1st kiss is not on cam. Does it mean she has a bf? then whoooo?. We all know before WGM, Joy didn't have a boyfriend. So its either She had a boyfriend after WGM and experienced kissing or sungjae kissed her offcam after that last episode. Anyways, thats just my fantasy created by my curiosity. Please ignore it. Fast forward, when Joy suprised Sungjae via video message. Joy described their relationship in the video that they have "sister and brother relationship" but in the end. She told them that she realized "it is more than that" and that sungjae probably thought of her as "special". With that alone, something probably happened behind the scenes that made her say that. And boi, i dont know what happened Since joy is not afraid saying that oncam lets assume that they are "not yet" together. Fast forward again, BTOB guested on a show where joy is one of the mc. You can see that they are sooo uncomfortable. Sungjae is better at hiding his uncomfort but you can clearly see sooyoung being uncomfortable. But why would they be uncomfortable to each other? Sungjae said they didn't see each other after WGM. But that contradicted to what Joy said at the video message. So, why? i think after wgm. They only talked to each other for a while but then lost contact so they are now uncomfortable to each other. Which explains BTOB "missing you" and all members teasing sungjae in every possible time. And then Fitz happened. I think this is where they become close again. Im not sure if they are together now. But i can say that Sungjae didnt move on. From 2016 to now, He is showing us how he misses someone. He is also mentioning indirectly his memories of them together during wgm. So to those who are saying that joy loved him more that he loves her. You guys are wrong. Sungjae fell in love sincerely. Yes at the start, he is acting and joy is being honest. But he grew fond of joy over time. He started loving her more but didnt realized it. And when he realized it at the end. WGM ended, thats why he cant move on. Like what joy said, sungjae cant escape from her. personally, i support them together and individually. If they dated someone else, ill be happy for them. I just want them to be happy. And if ever they are dating right now, i dont want dispatch to reveal their relationship because im still waiting for a drama together. I hope they act as a couple in the future. Their chemistry will be daebak! edit: guys, sooyoung is dating someone now. Lets all be happy for her. But ofc i will be forever loyal to sungjae. Sungjoy couple will always be in my hearts. Let all wait for sungjae to come back. And support both of them individually ❤️ *Bye Bbyu* 😭
their relationship in 2016 to 2018 I agree with you, in early 2017 they are not related anymore, but Sungjae is still waiting for Joy. but I feel sure they started connecting again in 2019 so now there are some clues connecting them, and the clues are very clear
Joy is such a dream girl, she's compatible with a lot of guys. That's why you can see a lot of ships with her name on it, but for me SungJoy will be the strongest and realest ship among them. I am one of those fans wishing and waiting for them to happen. If not, I'm just gonna cry and move on. Ch0ur
tbh, i’ve never shipped any idol with another idol THIS INTENSE. not only was sungjoy super cute, but they also taught sum of us fans important keys to a relationship. NEVER say that sungjoy isn’t real because a person doesn’t look at a person the way sungjae looks at joy..
This is the best video on youtube, I sometimes felt distrubed when someone said that during wgm, joy love subgjae more than sungjae love her, and theres also someone said that joy had a one sided love, but if u watch wgm and pay more attention on detailed things, i think sungjae really really love her, as much as she does or maybe even more than joy does - sungjae is a really deep person and he said that he cant express thing well, deep person cant fall in love easily, but they also cant forget the one they love easily too (watch wgm ep 314 when they ate jokbal, when they tell their memorable moment in summer, sungjae said its when their first meeting; its a sign that hes a deep person) - Sungjae is a really detailed person, and he also a person that rlly obsessed about something with hidden meaning (for example number 6 (yook)) He also said that he’s sentimental person, [if u watch wgm wheres sungjae and joy visit museum u will know why] -when sungjae prepared an event for joy (ep 36/311 if im not mistaken) he really prepared it for 3 MONTHS, and the idea is from HIMSELF. Its not a mission from WGM, and that’s mean that Sungjae prepared the event with HIS OWN budget and idea. He really care about detailed things, “i love you” cake, joy name that aranged from candles, sungjae and joy pict, candy, piano, surprise event at basement, etc - when sungjae give a surprise event for joy at basement (unaired ep) eunkwang (wgm panelist) was shooked and explained that made an event is really not sungjae’s style - when sungjae sing “ I love you “ for joy, changsub and hyunsik also look surprised, changsub jokingly said that sungjae totally lose his mind that day, but i think its not just a joke lmao. And if u saw the unaired ep when sungjae sing this song, u will see the sincere inside of him and again, sungjae’s ears dont lie, at the end u can see how red they are. (He said that he cant express thing well so he express his feeling with song)
Joy is typical of straight forward girl. She will say she likes it if she likes it. Otherwise, sungjae more likely someone who has hard time to express himself. But usually guy like this is a loyal one once they are in relationship because he actually really in love with the girl but just hard to express it
Tbh this is one of the only couples based off of actual evidence and not just delusions. People don’t look into the facts. Instead they just compare it to every other rumored couple. Time will tell though. Excellent video 👏
Also, i think all of his solos in the album are based on his feelings for Joy. Come to think of it, his 3x2 = 6 solos are actually some kind of light novel. It has chronological clock to it. In fact his songs are all very symbolic of season, Winter being the cold, desolate season the reminded him of his breaking up with Joy and spring a renewal of sorts. I think it's really his and Joy's love story (told by his perspective). His first set seemed to be the prologue. Both had the theme of a breaking up with the loved one and he told us how they couldn't be together. From Winter also had this kind of vibe on it. It described his initial feeling of the outbreak. I think separated here means a lot. It's not like Sungjae and Joy didn't love each other, but their agencies separated them. (I would say SM played the most part because it seemed that it's actually Joy that dumped him at first). His second set seemed to be the intermediary, it told us how to 'cope' with the breakup. In W.A.U he lamented the breakup by listening to her favorite playlist alone and saying life is not like a movie. His Chicken song had a happy tune, but i think it hides a darker side. It has some kind of coping mechanism. The Chicken here doubles as a 'person' (role model) and food. An analogy that he learned from Chicken (i think this is also Joy) on how to life and adjust. He used the phrase san eun bop. Many shippers think this is from a Tae Joo's poem that described the only way to live was to think about her (Joy). His third set is some kind of reconciliation. He definitely didn't brood as much as the two songs but i think this describes on his feelings and actions after the breakup. HMHN had that very odd digress that i think speak loud of Joy. The song was depressing until a very odd lyric came : 'It's gonna be mine oh mine, I.O.Y.' I think that described that despite his depression after the break up, he was also determined to take her back. This is i think what BtoB do in 2016. Even the normally passive RV seemed to play along with BtoB once. BtoB was very adamant in leaking their relationship to the public at that year. Hypnotized also has this kind of lyrics. His lyrics said that even the 'leaves changed', he will always stay at the same place. (Meaning he will always wait for Joy to come back.) And his CWTW is an epilogue, the coming of spring as in new hope. Here we have the answers from his previous songs. The girl (Joy) did come back to him. But i think this is also hinting that Sungjae and the girl has some kind of Long-Distance-Relationship with Sami acting as the girl's reminder (like Jennie's dog named Kai). But this song is a declaration that he will never forget their memories even as he went (or Joy went) somewhere. Maybe this also had connotations with the present where he will go to the military service. So it's like a parting gift also. You could say his song's lyrics all connected. I won't go in detail here, because i'm too lazy to elaborate it all. Yes, all of this actually STRONGLY pointed all to Joy. His CWTW answered whom he was talking about in the past albums. I think Sungjoy is very likely real at this point. It's going to be odd if they have no relationship anymore since this had to be passed by both SM and CUBE.
Waaaah. Very well. I am amazed on how you pointed it out. Actually, even Hyunsik said when he was the guest on HYENA ON THE KEYBOARD, Sungjae is into producing music also. And we all know how genius Sungjae is when it comes to song titles and double meaning lyrics. I believe your theory is right. Because Sungjae is a lowkey genius music producer. He tends to hide meanings on songs. 👍👍👍❤️
@Suci Han when I saw Joy's personality during WGM, I saw she was not an ordinary girl, she was special, intelligent, fast thinking, very emotional, and loving, she was a good girl, she used her heart more than people, this kind of person will be loyal and cherished someone to death
Dear Joy and Sungjae, If u r dating in secret, we totally support u. So please don't take the risk of making it public to take criticism from immature fans. Thank u Ughh.... I m crying... 😭😭 Hope these two live a happy life in the future....
at 2:36 the fact that he didn't even deny that "broke up with girlfriend" but even proceeded to explain and said "that's not what happen" lol sungjae got speechless for a second and also in an episode of Get it Beauty backstage break where Yoonju and Joy did a "bye-to-being-single pouch" and Joy was good at explaining at how she gonna pull off a first date and then Yoonju told her "It was from experience" "she has experience" and then joy just said she have seen in a drama many times hahaha
@@jessiev2353 i think he said that because in the first place they are not really couple but they like each other. I think he's saying that he misses her but not to the point that they broke up.
What people don’t realise is that this series went on for a while, of course if they both have the same type they will start catching feelings and that’s exactly what happened. The ending of their series really shows that joy wasn’t faking her cry, you can tell it was genuinely real and Sungjae was holding his tears back. They really both fell for each other. You cant make a series like this and expect them not to fall for each other. There are things called feelings.... I really hope they are together.
I don’t think they are - and I’m not sure they ever actually dated or Dispatch def would’ve come out with it at this point - but I really wish they were. I think the honest truth is they both did catch feelings and coincidentally RV got huge after the show (Joy in particular) so she had no time for dating, so Sungjae was kinda left on sidelines with no opportunities to really ask her out. Not to mention given RV’s busy schedule & SM’s reputation I’m sure the company wouldn’t really allow it or at least didn’t encourage it. They knew Joy’s their money ticket and that with upcoming film gigs and increasing CFs dating anyone - especially another singer from a show she was on - would jeopardize her position. Bc if they did date, then when people watch her acting on other dramas or doing press interviews with her costars they will say “Oh well you can tell she’s dating Sungjae bc these two have no chemistry” or “No wonder she’s dating Sungjae. There’s nothing between these two here.” So having her single and without scandal is important for her brand and image as a famous singer and an actress. It’s also important from another business standpoint: scheduling. The less time she has to date or see a bf, the more time she has to focus on work and land gigs. And “stay focused” as the asshole CEOs would say - esp SM. Lastly, I’m not sure that when she was on WGM she was even contractually allowed to date at all? I know their dating ban is over now but idk about back then... So that might’ve been another reason things never panned out. Bc by the time ban was over too much time had passed between them so dating wouldn’t be possible anymore. But honestly I still think the real reason is not a dating ban. I think it’s bc of Joy & RV’s increasingly busy schedule after the show. I mean its no doubt that their group became more famous after 2015/16 and that Joy’s fandom grew exponentially as she turned more and more into a mature woman & talented actress. Meanwhile although BTOB is successful and Sungjae is an amazing actor/singer it’s not even comparable. (I mean I think he & the group are WIDELY underrated so don’t get me wrong - I think it’s really unfair/sad.) So it’s no surprise to me that while Sungjae has been rumored to have dated & had gfs since then, Joy hasn’t. It’s bc he’s had time to and his company has been more lax since there’s less eyes on him, while Joy barely has time to breathe with a packed schedule and SM’s notoriously strict eyes watching and monitoring her. Point is, that’s why I think Sungjae wasn’t lying on that variety show when he says he hasn’t met with her since WGM bc she’s been so busy (he said they’ve both been busy but the implication was clear after she laughed and said “No, no, it’s not like that.. I’ve just been too busy” You can see she felt bad and that he wasn’t wrong.) But I don’t think this is for a lack of feeling: I think it’s very obvious on the show that she started to have real feelings for him. I think his feelings were slower to develop (much more like “Lets have fun, it’s a show!” & “Oh this girl is different/strange haha but maybe we can be friends”) but at the end he thought he would miss her as a little sister since they truly got close but then looking back he realizes he truly had feelings beyond that for her. With dudes sometimes it takes a sec, and Sungjae is def the funny immature playful type so I’m sure it didn’t really hit him till after, that maybe he liked her as more than just a close “noona.” I think as he started dating other idols he realized even more how special and unique their time & connection was. He started missing her and regretting his actions even more as years went by, but worried it was too late now and too far gone. That’s why I do believe the song “Come With the Wind” is about Joy. A part of me does believe it might be delulu & far fetched, but another part really does see all the hints and similarities people have picked up on. Still, I’m not denying that it could be a coincidence and fans have gone nuts from lack of content haha. But I dunno, I really do think that unfortunately they never dated or Dispatch wouldve come out w it at this point. I know some people think it was kept a secret from fan backlash but that’s not true bc at this point the Bbyu fandom is larger than any antis. So that’s def not the reason at all. And I don’t think it’s that they were good at hiding it/dating in secret bc I really don’t think Joy had any time to date at all between her schedule as RV member and recurring actress. That’s an overwhelming schedule, so I think that’s the real answer. But I do think Sungjae’s heart is still with her but he feels it’s too late now and that she’s too popular for him/he missed his chance. As for Joy idk. On the show it was easy to read her feelings but it’s been more difficult since then bc she has so little freedom and is not allowed to freely express herself in song or on social media. So it’s tough to know how she feels. I think she did truly like him on the show towards the end but didn’t think it was reciprocated. I think she was insecure and in her heart felt he didn’t see her in a romantic way but as a protective older brother. (And I think he was giving her those signs bc that is how he thinks he felt at the time.) And now I just think she’s too busy so it’s not on her mind as much. I think she’s “moved on” but still holds a soft spot for him in her heart. Like a fond memory of her innocence and when she was less busy and could be more herself. She just thinks he never reciprocated her feelings and since he never REALLY reached out in a romantic way after the show she thought they are just friends. And then as years went by, that fizzled too. (on her end.) But I do think she wants a love life and I do wish that for her bc I just want to see her happy. I think being successful can only bring you so much joy as an idol, you know? I think time to have a partner and feel normal is just as important. But personal time is a luxury not many idols are afforded, sadly... Sorry, this was like an essay. I’m really sorry for such a long rant. Just wanted to express my hypothesis based on facts I see. I do wish they could come together at some point in future and give each other a chance, bc I think they are so well suited and had something special. And it’s a shame not to give smth you want a shot just bc you didn’t have time before. Truth is Sungjae, it may feel awkward, but it’s never too late! And sometimes its worth at least taking the shot. But if they don’t end up dating someday, then I just hope they’re happy w whoever they choose and that they find someone great! Bc they both deserve it. #EndofEssay
Look at the new music video that was released for Sungjae's new song 'Come with The Wind'. It ahows his love for Sami, Melodies, and his hyungs but it also shows a girl. The girl may refer to Melody but most of the scenes look like they came straight out of WGM.....
Joy is a melody too she once said that...But if he wanna represent melodies,why didn't he use a different girl with different looks(not similar to joy)....Nd why did he use pics referring to wgm...When we think about that,it's kinda clear that it's joy Ps : It's also for melodies 💙 How can he leave out his favourite melodies ❤💙 It's kinda weird when a melody says all this stuff 😅😅
Also guys did you all notice the date in the calender march 11? It said "Day off" Do you all remember during wgm in one of the episodes they marked "Day off for bbyu couple" on the same date 🙈 I think it's like one of the biggest hints you know♥️😊 I hope you all noticed that
Seungi: "Did you break up with your girlfriend?" Sungjae: **laughs** "That's not what happened." He didn't outright say NO or YES. But sort of hinted that they didn't break up. He just really like the poem to be used in a song... he he he.
I read a comment somewhere and I also believe it. They have been dating for awhile now and even after Sungjae revealing so much about his love for Joy (like the one about poem and phone call etc.), there hasn’t been any news released about them (apart from the Yook album relating to Joy). It’s probably because Sungjae has a strong influence and connection and he has been protecting Joy and their relationship all this while. Just like the way he’s hasn’t revealed much about his family. Kyaa~ He’s such a keeper. So is Joy. Hard to find ppl like them in this world. I believe in them!! #bbyu all the way!!
Okay the katalk one then Ilhoon suddenly sing "Umpah Umpah". There's no other explanation that can explain that situation other than it was a katalk from Sooyoung😂😂 and Sungjae reaction after Ilhoon sing Umpah Umpah is telling us the truth😂😂
dude you actually just CAN'T deny this, this video is so well put together everything is so valid especially that last bit of BTOB as well, mates always know what's good. the timing of their jokes is not any coincidence e.g. "umpah umpah"
The umpah umpah kktalk really got me😂 also one more thing I notice is that the song that SJ sang for J when they first met, the lyrics is “you came to me like a spring breeze” and his new solo song is “come with the wind” I think they’re somehow “related”. Just as long as they’re not dating anyone, I still support them
this video actually makes a lot of sense probably the only ship video with actual proof ive been bbyu couple fan since wgm and i did be glad to see them together and its sad that idols cant date freely cause the public feel like they can have an opinion on everything they do
Hater is gonna hate, as long as we keep loving our cute Bbyuu couples then we’re strong. Sungjoy teach me love, understanding and happiness and I will love them forever. Thank you so much for this video and let continue to love our cute couple!!!
There's a lot coincidence and a lot of hints especially from joy! I remember one of her instagram post, it was a photo when she's in jeju island with a caption "jeju island 💚💙" and i feel like that's a hint! And also in 2017 and 2018, i think someone already commented about this, but it was a video? Like a btob video (i'm not a part of the fandom, sorry) and i can totally hear joy's and wendy's voice in the background!!!! I'm a reveluv so i can tell that was their voices!! So to sum up, i think they did break up after wgm, because in the last episode of wgm, joy said that she's not prepared enough to have a serious relationship and she wants sungjae to wait for her. But, sungjae is actually the one who really wants to continue the relationship even right after the program ends, if we look at the lyrics, it said that he wants joy to hug and stay with him. I think that's a very important clue. And then fast forward to 2018, i think they become closer and start the relationship in 2018. Because like what i just said, the clue is : that btob video and also a fancam where they were in an award show(?) and they keep trying to look at each other even tho they are far from each other. And another strong hint is when ilhoon saying "umpah umpah" randomly when there's a notification, and then, when ilhoon said "congratulations for your marriage", it was SO RANDOM but it was such a strong hint. And then 2020, i don't need to mention it again, but Come with the wind really reminds us of their story. I know that it wasn't just all about sungjoy, but i'm sure that joy is involved in the song, esp when you look at the lyric "a gift that came back to me" as you all probably knew, they always talk about gift in wgm! "Gift" is something that was mentioned a lot by them back then! Like in their first meeting, joy gives a surprise to sungjae and she said "the gift is me" to sungjae, and then, when they were in a beach, when sungjae asked to joy, what does she think of 2015? And then joy said that, "2015 is a gift for me", she explained the gifts are : red velvet winning in music show, red velvet finally release an album, and also meeting sungjae. She said sungjae is her gift. And also in the last episode, she said that sungjae is a precious gift to her! 💖 So joy mentioned gift a lot in the program and even their first meeting is about a gift 🥺
I lost it when that btob member randomly said "umpah umpah" after that sms. THIS SHIP IS SUPER REAL...for now, since there's still no rumor about each other's partner.
We melody are really ready to accept if they date and they officially announce it we will be the happiest persons... as both melody and Bbyu shippers... I too hope they date eachother... if not also it doesn't matter unless we love them ....
I really dont understand this kpop fans worried if their idol being in love with someone. If it was me, i would be pretty happy and pray for them, at least he/she has someone to be relied on at tough times. And it really is normal to have someone right? And for them, i think sungjae really like joy. Because thats the gesture i gave to my wife before we got together. Always wanting to see her even a glimpse of her and get close to her as much as i can.
Honestly this couple seems like they are made for each other. Normally wgm couples are paired up only after interviewing about their ideal types and stuff. But Sungjae was not interviewed because PD nim was so amazed when he saw Sungjae. She was like "He was made for Joy" so she didn't bother to interview him. But just imagine if he was interviewed ?? We may never see bbyu couple together since Sungjae was into older girls before. So WGM will pair him with a Noona only. This seems like a destiny for me. Even after the show ended , fate kept bringing them together. I am amazed by this beautiful couple 🥰❤
Im glad im not the only one shipping them together after 4 years... Like im not even in their respective fandoms, but they just scream couple since wgm
This is great and this doesn't even cover everything. Joy's IG post with 326 photos, the drunk sungjae singing missing you. And when sungjae practicing love pain choreo, right after Ilhoon randomly sang umpah umpah, he immediately did the wrong moves after doing so well earlier. Also in From Winter, the guy look at the aloe-look-like plant right when the lyrics are 'noreul geuryeo' which means 'drawing you'. But these are just coincidences alright...
It's actually pretty amazing how are they really connected to each other even with the tiniest things. SJ loves fishing/fishes while SY's name means swimming in korean. SJ's name means star in korean and SY really loves night time. SJ really loves number 6 while SY's birth month is september which is the 9th month and if you'll gonna flip 9 it would turn to 6. SY looks a bit like SJ's mom and SJ is pretty similar to SY's dad. And the most fascinating thing is before WGM, they're totally different but when they met each other they slowly became similar to each other. I mean, that only happens to real married couples who are deeply in love to each other. "Becoming one" is pretty hard to achieve and it takes a very long time. They have too many similarities that I keep on wondering if they are a reincarnation of a twin siblings, or they are great lovers in their past lives. If I didn't know that wgm is a reality show, I would think that it was just a drama or some kind of fictional and all about them from their personalities up to their personal profiles and background was all planned. There's too many reasons to hold on to this ship so I will keep holding onto it.
the show was fake but all those things that happened to them. it's not something that you just can say "fake" because we all know, at some moment, they were starting to get real. what happened between them, it was all real. they shared something real. that's why even until now, this ship isn't still sinking. but if someday, they'll find someone and start dating. i will be happy genuinely and will still support them. because at some point, they made me believe that love knows no time and right place. if you feel it, oh boy, you just do! i really wish they will have a drama in the future. i would really love that. bbyu♥︎
I will ship them till the end . I don't care if others think they are fake. I don't care if others don't want them to be together. I don't care what they say coz I know in my heart that they belong to each other. :) I have a strong faith of the two of them. Bbyu fighting!!!!!! 😊💪
I love and miss Bbyu. The fact that Joy got her ears pierced with Sungjae just makes me think of Bbyu everytime I see her wear earrings which basically is always!!
I just finished watching Sungjae's reaction to the music video of his song "Come with the wind". Some of the fans are saying that the music video was based on Sungjae and Joy memories in WGM. I think Sungjae and his agency decided to make the reaction video to explain and to clear some things because the netizens are dragging Joy's name again. Whatever may happen in the future, we will support our uri Maknae especially in his lovelife, whoever may be the lucky girl will own Sungjae's heart. ❤️
Not gonna lie, I watched WGM because of these two and I ended watching WGM after it was their last time together. They were like my favorite couple back then. I miss them together so much.
even if haters deny it or anyone saying it was over, they can't deny that these two wonderful people hold so much power as a couple. We may not confirm what they had felt was real, only them, but we also don't have the right to invalidate what they have shared were their own moments to cherish. I miss them. They both deserve the best. ❤️
I may ship joy from other guys(because she's shippable lol), but I'm never ever gonna give this Sungjoy up, this couple is still number 1 n my heart. Will always wish them together. I will only stop dreaming bout them if they have someone else and confirmed by themselves
The fact is that we have lost many shippers after joy got casted in many dramas and other variety shows...but it doesn't matter...the one who still ships them is the loyal one and not fake #Stillbelieve #bbyuforlife
Couldn't agree more. BBYU couple felt so real that I just can't let go of them. And the variety shows (one of them visit) sometimes inserts things about the other. I just can't help but hope they will be together in the future if not now (because there selfish fans who wants tgeir idol to be single). Can't imagine myself if either one of them is in a relationship with other people otger than bbyu. BBYU FOREVER
Okay, I hurt myself again by watching the last episode of WGM and that was a pretty dumb decision I made by hurting myself more. I love this ship for years and its quite impressive to see detailed coincidences, huhuhu. For 2020, in the midst of this pandemic, SUNGJOY, I STILL BELIEVE IN YOU.
sungjae seemed like he was so in love with joy. i can see from his eyes, from his gesture, from how he took care of joy. how i pray they could be back tgt, but i'm gonna feel bad for crush. crush is a good person, so sungjae too. whatever it is, i'll let the heaven decides which is best for everyone
That peekaboo gesture...he also used it in their cf fitz and Joy doing/posing the gesture on only one for me😭 i kennat with these two. There are absolutely codes that we need to decode bbyu fams and they literally feeding us. huhuhu
Wow.. I feel so emotional after watching this video. You're right!!!! There are more reasons to believe in Bbyu than to not!! And we don't loose anything when we ship these two, rather we gain happiness and inspiration!!! I just hope Bbyu shippers won't entertain haters anymore and won't go beyond the line as well. Let's keep believing in Sungjae and Joy and support them!!! 쀼 ♥♥♥x♥♥
Watching WGM with those two, It made me feel so different towards the both of them because I knew f them both before watching and I fell in love with them from their acting and singing and we all always have this certain way of seeing our idols but watching them, together, on WGM made me see them in a whole different light and I fell in love with them even more ya know. For me personally I'm scared to love and express my feelings openly and half the time I don't even know what I'm feeling. What I'm trying to say is that I saw their growth and I hope that some day I can experience the same kind of feelings, I know what they felt was real there was know acting in that, their eyes told no lie. When watching it, it was like I felt what they felt ya know, I cried when they cried, I was happy when they were happy, all the emotion was there and it was real. This is what I support because I know it was real.
This just gave me hope, I just finished watching their episodes and I'm ugly crying, I don't tend to believe what's shown in these but they seemed so real and made for each other. As for now I'm joining you in continuing to support until official statements are released
It's almost 2021 but still bbyu shippers family is still growing because a lot of people love their chemistry. Let's all wait for the right time. They already did a duet song 'Young Love' and an advertisement which is 'Fitz' so let's wait for sungjae in 2021 or 2022 because he's currently serving in the military. In 2021 or 2022 please give them a drama, it'll be a hit. Or just give us an update of your dating status🤣💙
Before I shipped hard SongSong couple and they become true in real life , but I feel sorry after their divorce.. and I really hope BBYU will end up together , getting married and have happy family .. you know what I mean right ?? I’m still believe with them , idk why ... this is just my feeling!
Im not fan of kpop but after watching sungjoy wgm just last year 2019. I became interested in red velvet, btob, become fan of joy and checking songs and lyrics made by sungjae. And now one of these people who wants happiness and more success for these couple. Hoping to see them again in their real marriage. 😁
I'm so happy for Joy now with Crush :') and Sungjae wherever he is or whatever he plans on doing now. I just missed this ship and their WGM episodes were my comfort. I wish them all the best! 🥺❤️
I'm not a fan of both of them before, i just know that RV that time and that sungjae was also from a kpop group. After watching WGM, i got to cry, laugh and fangirl to the both of them. I can't believe at first that this ship was that powerful to the point that i gotta really ship them badly bc i can see the chemistry is on another level compared to the scripted kdramas. I still miss them and i will continue to support this ship in the future!
i came across this just now and my sungjoy heart has been enabled again 😭 it's just so sad though especially that sungjae just went to the military and will be gone for more than a year. If this is real, i just imagine joy running to him and hugging him like in their last concert in wgm.
they’re such a perfect couple ☹️ like i seriously would not mind if they were together. they genuinely looked happy with each other. other fans need to understand that if having a significant other makes them happy then so be it. why should idols be unhappy just because their fans don’t like something they do ? idols should be free to do and love whoever they want, they’re humans too, they have feelings just like the rest of us.
I've been waiting for your videos for a long time but it seems like you already stop shipping them so I just keep repeating old videos of sungjoy and now here you are posting a video for 20 mins of them I'm very thankful 🤧💓
Yt algorithm brought me here after a long time hahaha.. And what a right timing, just when I'm about to delude myself again. A news of Joy confirming her dating rumor with Crush came out.. hahahahaha I was just wishing for a dating rumor of Joy this coming November but it blew up early and with another man 😭 Still congrats Sooyoungie hoping for your happy relationship. Fighting! ✊
I love how your video makes my sungjoy ❤ flutter..im a newbie melody,and an exol too..bcoz of wgm bbyuu couple i've got to know how talented sungjae is..as well as all members of Btob❤❤
My Crush on Red Velvet is Joy since their happiness era and Sungjae is my crush in BTOB since I discovered them(their ballads, mwah!!! Bravo!!!!) DON'T TOUCH OUR BBYU SHIP!!!
I love them both so much, and i hope that they're together. They really grew with each other during the year they were filming, and Joy especially had grown into such an independent and beautiful woman and I hope that Sungjae was thee through it all
Damnn i respect you for your deduction and investigation skills in making this video and i couldn't agree more...i started shipping this couple like a year after wgm ended and i still do ship them...hope for the best and i will still support them even if they have somebody else going strong bbyu !!!
Thank you for this video. All the proofs why I still hold on to this couple. Not even mentioning joys ig receipts and number of posts playa. I LOVE IT! I LOVE SMART COUPLE AND SHIPPERS!
“Is a gift, you who came back to me” Come with the Wind by Yook Sungjae. Really thought this meant they found their way back to each but ig that was not the story. Came here after joys news of dating crush and well what can I say… my bbyu heart is broken 😞 but I wish nothing but the best to Joy and Crush 🎆. I will continue to support each of them individually from now on🤍🤍.
For someone who can’t get over, this video is so helpful!! I mean we are in hunger and thirst for them, and you just gave something for us to be satisfied for.
thank you for the video! ever since one of their wgm videos got onto my recommended out of nowhere my feels came back and your video has such strong evidence (finally one that is concrete out of the sea of many videos out there) also adding on to sugarman 2 you can see that both of them are wearing rings on their ring finger (both on the right hand) while the rest of the btob hyungs did not wear much accessories (other than hyunsik) and the rings look so similar to the one from wgm (the episode where joy did the massage for sj) am not sure about the ring that joy is wearing but the one sj is wearing is SO similar!
Sungjae and Joy , whatever is happening now , I know what both of you felt that time was real and pure. You guys were in love. I'm sure Joy's first love is Sungjae. It's just sad that their love just got crushed by obsessive fans. Nobody deserves that. Well now our ship is sunk. But I guess I should thank Sungjae and Joy for all the good memories. Their young love gave us so much energy and happiness. Joy is happy in her new relationship with crush. I want you to be happy too Sungjae love. I hope you a get a good partner too . I don't know what's going on but be good good friends you two. Next time when you meet on stage , I hope to see two besties greeting each other comfortably. We'll see that right ?? May god bless you both...
It just breaks my heart. Not that I don't support Joy and crush together but you know when you were invested in a thing for too long and suddenly it just gets over like that...
Not gonna lie, I watched WGM because I had a big crush on Joy. After watching WGM, I had a big crush on their relationship. THE SHIP CONTINUES TO SAIL!!
same here 😭😍
Same😂
Actually tho
PheelGood Inc i had a big crush on SJ , i’m in love with both now haha
I'm a girl and have a big crush on Joy too, lol. So I feel you. But now I love their relationship too
sungjoy taught me how to be patient and trust when it comes to love. If they will have their own partners in the future, i will continue in supporting them. I love them both even if they dont end up together.
Christine Realubit just the thought of it not ending together makes my heart broken otteokkke
Ur words mke me cry...missing thm...
@@corydizon3169 trust me, it really is 😭 i just hope that every decisions they make is always the best for them as long as it makes them happy, its our happiness too.
@@ka2m557 same feels 😭 still sungjoy. I don't know why some netizens think that the moments they spend tgt in wgm is only and just for the camera when I think it's not because it shows the progress from being shy from the first meeting and took time before they become close enough. I just think it is not scripted.
yes 😢
people i ship joy with:
1. sungjae
2. jae yook
3. yook sungjae
4. btob's sungjae
5. 육성재
Same
😂 true
And 6SJ
And SJ
hahahaha indeed
"I WILL STOP SHIPPING THEM TOGETHER ONLY IF ONE OF THEM WAS DATING SOMEONE ELSE"
THERE THAT'S THE TEA
True, huhuhu, I believe in this ship,tho. huhuhu
That's hurt meeee😭😭😭😭😭
No please don't !
You should stop shipping them when they will marry someone else... yeah that's more surreal.... Dating means nothing... Marrying, now that's a big thing !
Yes !
@@jearachelledeguzman5675 but if u stan at the other side think if ur bf/gf get ship with other people what will u think ?
There should be a show called ‘We Really Got Married’ featuring Sungjae & Joy and Naeun & Taemin. Thank you and bye.
😂😂😂👍
YAS... If that happen I can die peacefully....
Yeah,Those Two Couples Is What Made Me Feel Really Happy and Really Broken...
Well said 👏
HAHAHAHAHA AGREED
Our motto is: As long as SJ and SY are not dating/marrying someone else, this ship will continue to sail. 💚💙
This is also the reason why I don't want their relationships be known to the public. Let's just pray for the best and protect these two! 💗
(08/23/21) EDIT: JOY and CRUSH are confirmed to be dating. Thank you SungJoy. You will always have a special place in our hearts.
That's my motto about Daragon hahahaha
Intellectual!!
Yeaah, you're right
But dont you feel like the new album is kind of sad...? It was like sungjae was expressing his feelings after a broke up (not the wgm one... im talking about something more recent) ... im kind of worried about this ship... but i do believe they were together for some years... its just... I dont really feel like they are anymore. I hope they can overcome theyr problems if they have ones.
@@claudiageana2451 tbh, we don't know anything for sure. What we have are theories and delusions that's why it is also our job to draw between the line. If your claim is correct, I hope they could fix whatever it is. But yeah, we should not overthink that much.
Once a bbyu shipper,Always a bbyu shipper!! eventhough i ship joy with so many handsome boys out there,at the end of the day im still rooting for Sungjae..This is my 1st ship,my 1st love couple,the reason why im into kpop now is bcoz of them..way to go bbyu couple i will support both of u individually..
End the end. SungJoy parin talaga 😍😭
@@carlaguiao6882 5 yrs na tayong umaasa Sungjoy parin😭
Hanggat wala pa silang ibang dini-date may pag-asa pa😊🙏
Can't agree more. . . Once you fall you can't back
The power of Bbyu
Red Velvet & Btob is life ♥
Another fact:
- Sungjae used to be not that active on instagram, but then when Joy opens her Instagram account, he became soo active. The funny thing is both Sungjae and Joy always post a photo one after another. Like when Joy upload her photo Sungjae would also upload his photo, and when Sungjae upload a photo first, Joy would also follow him to post something. But when a lot of people realize this, Sungjae back to him that rarely post a pic on insta.
- Before Sungjae solo is out, Joy always make her post 3 photo in one post, then 2 photo in one post, and then Sungjae solo 3x2=6 is out
- some time ago Joy always wear the same bracelet on several events and it turns out that bracelet is from baidu sungjoy bar
- there are a post in Joy instagram where she use blue outfit and give blue heart caption and then sungjae also post his photo with green shirt ;) 💙💚
- and you guys really need to check sungjae recent song called come with the wind. Cause the MV really look a like SUNGJOY!
OMG how did I not know/notice this?? Akdnsjsbs
What is sungjaes ig acc? Hahaha
@@worldwidehandsome1346 if i'm not mistaken it's @yook_can_do_it
@@hermione10 waaah found it! Thank youuu
Kawa Muhammad wtf is wrong with you 😂 they clearly made it obvious for their shippers. Why would they give hints if they want it to be VERY secretive? Plus no one is invading both Joy and Sungjae’s privacy? We ain’t no crazy sasaengs lmao get tf out of here if you dont like it idiot
*my theories on bbyu couple*
*Last episode of sungjoy WGM*
Joy sang a song to sungjae thats basically saying "Im still a kid but can you wait for me until i became a lady". Take note! before singing that, she told sungjae to listen carefully to the lyrics.
Which means, joy is not ready yet. She wants sungjae to wait for her until she is "ready". Thats why she was crying hard that time, she knows that will be the last time they will be together as a couple.
In the case of seungjae, i think he really wanted to be with joy, and he is ready and not afraid to be in a relationship(he also said personally that he wants to marry early). But ofc, he knows that joy can't be in a relationship. Cause first of all, Red velvet is still a rookie that time. And joy is still young. But despite this, he still asked joy if it is really over after filming. WHY? cause he still want to know what joy is feeling "that time". So when he heard the song that joy sang, he understood it.
After the filming ofc they probably talked. Knowing Sungjae, he probably comforted joy and told her that he will support her in her career. And to cheer up cause he will always be there for joy no matter what.
That explains what seungjae told in the interview that they are still comfortable with each other. But being careful cause of haters.
*After wgm*
this is my own fantasy but ever wonder who is joy's 1st kiss? She told in the interview that kissing in real life is so different in drama. Which means joy's 1st kiss is not on cam. Does it mean she has a bf? then whoooo?. We all know before WGM, Joy didn't have a boyfriend. So its either She had a boyfriend after WGM and experienced kissing or sungjae kissed her offcam after that last episode.
Anyways, thats just my fantasy created by my curiosity. Please ignore it.
Fast forward, when Joy suprised Sungjae via video message. Joy described their relationship in the video that they have "sister and brother relationship" but in the end. She told them that she realized "it is more than that" and that sungjae probably thought of her as "special".
With that alone, something probably happened behind the scenes that made her say that. And boi, i dont know what happened
Since joy is not afraid saying that oncam lets assume that they are "not yet" together.
Fast forward again, BTOB guested on a show where joy is one of the mc. You can see that they are sooo uncomfortable. Sungjae is better at hiding his uncomfort but you can clearly see sooyoung being uncomfortable.
But why would they be uncomfortable to each other? Sungjae said they didn't see each other after WGM. But that contradicted to what Joy said at the video message. So, why? i think after wgm. They only talked to each other for a while but then lost contact so they are now uncomfortable to each other. Which explains BTOB "missing you" and all members teasing sungjae in every possible time.
And then Fitz happened. I think this is where they become close again. Im not sure if they are together now. But i can say that Sungjae didnt move on. From 2016 to now, He is showing us how he misses someone. He is also mentioning indirectly his memories of them together during wgm.
So to those who are saying that joy loved him more that he loves her. You guys are wrong. Sungjae fell in love sincerely. Yes at the start, he is acting and joy is being honest. But he grew fond of joy over time. He started loving her more but didnt realized it. And when he realized it at the end. WGM ended, thats why he cant move on. Like what joy said, sungjae cant escape from her.
personally, i support them together and individually. If they dated someone else, ill be happy for them. I just want them to be happy. And if ever they are dating right now, i dont want dispatch to reveal their relationship because im still waiting for a drama together. I hope they act as a couple in the future. Their chemistry will be daebak!
edit: guys, sooyoung is dating someone now. Lets all be happy for her. But ofc i will be forever loyal to sungjae. Sungjoy couple will always be in my hearts. Let all wait for sungjae to come back. And support both of them individually ❤️ *Bye Bbyu* 😭
I agree with you !! The only thing I'm sure about is his feelings towards Joy. He still loves her
..agree to that👍😊😊
Same thoughts 😩❤️
their relationship in 2016 to 2018 I agree with you, in early 2017 they are not related anymore, but Sungjae is still waiting for Joy. but I feel sure they started connecting again in 2019 so now there are some clues connecting them, and the clues are very clear
I agree with your theory. I feel so safe and comforted now, some people were attacking me for shipping Sungjae and Joy..Hello my fellow shippers!!
I will come back here when an article release "BTOB'S SUNGJAE AND RED VELVET'S JOY ARE DATING!!!" OR MARRIED that's even better HAHAHA
yeah.. married is more better hahahah
they better married haha
Me too
better married HAHAHAHAHAH
yas
Joy is such a dream girl, she's compatible with a lot of guys. That's why you can see a lot of ships with her name on it, but for me SungJoy will be the strongest and realest ship among them. I am one of those fans wishing and waiting for them to happen. If not, I'm just gonna cry and move on. Ch0ur
Omo let's cry together 🤣Oh please Bbyu don't break our hearts 💔💔💔
Sungjae is equally admirable himself. I really hope they end up together 💙💚
@Odoreater same as Sungjae, Joy is a package too. 🔥
Yess omds😭
@@sonamelody9631 lol not just sungjae, it's a win win for both of them. 🤷♀️
the fact that the yook's mv "Come With The Wind" has references of bbyu couple. 👁👄👁
its.patriii 61 true!! The girl in the drawings of the photos looks just like Joy
YESSS IT IS JOY😝
That's what i was about to comment!!!
naniiii! gonna check it out now
The song its for Melody ( btob fandom) but the video the girl on the drawing looks like Joy
tbh, i’ve never shipped any idol with another idol THIS INTENSE. not only was sungjoy super cute, but they also taught sum of us fans important keys to a relationship. NEVER say that sungjoy isn’t real because a person doesn’t look at a person the way sungjae looks at joy..
LETS ALL COME BACK HERE WHEN THEY ARE FINALLY TOGETHER PLEASE GOD THEY ARE PERFECT FOR EACH OTHER
i will manifest, lets all manifest
I still believe 👏 maybe after Sungjae’s military enlistment they’ll make it official
I just saw this actually. Hope everything turns out okay
Pray For SungJoy...
😭😭😭
This is the best video on youtube, I sometimes felt distrubed when someone said that during wgm, joy love subgjae more than sungjae love her, and theres also someone said that joy had a one sided love, but if u watch wgm and pay more attention on detailed things, i think sungjae really really love her, as much as she does or maybe even more than joy does
- sungjae is a really deep person and he said that he cant express thing well, deep person cant fall in love easily, but they also cant forget the one they love easily too (watch wgm ep 314 when they ate jokbal, when they tell their memorable moment in summer, sungjae said its when their first meeting; its a sign that hes a deep person)
- Sungjae is a really detailed person, and he also a person that rlly obsessed about something with hidden meaning (for example number 6 (yook)) He also said that he’s sentimental person, [if u watch wgm wheres sungjae and joy visit museum u will know why]
-when sungjae prepared an event for joy (ep 36/311 if im not mistaken) he really prepared it for 3 MONTHS, and the idea is from HIMSELF. Its not a mission from WGM, and that’s mean that Sungjae prepared the event with HIS OWN budget and idea. He really care about detailed things, “i love you” cake, joy name that aranged from candles, sungjae and joy pict, candy, piano, surprise event at basement, etc
- when sungjae give a surprise event for joy at basement (unaired ep) eunkwang (wgm panelist) was shooked and explained that made an event is really not sungjae’s style
- when sungjae sing “ I love you “ for joy, changsub and hyunsik also look surprised, changsub jokingly said that sungjae totally lose his mind that day, but i think its not just a joke lmao. And if u saw the unaired ep when sungjae sing this song, u will see the sincere inside of him and again, sungjae’s ears dont lie, at the end u can see how red they are. (He said that he cant express thing well so he express his feeling with song)
Exactly and I feel so sad when people misunderstands sungjae 😧
Joy is typical of straight forward girl. She will say she likes it if she likes it. Otherwise, sungjae more likely someone who has hard time to express himself. But usually guy like this is a loyal one once they are in relationship because he actually really in love with the girl but just hard to express it
Waaaaaa I'm really happy reading all of the comments here 😍 Huhuhu I really believe in Bbyu 💙💚
Tbh this is one of the only couples based off of actual evidence and not just delusions. People don’t look into the facts. Instead they just compare it to every other rumored couple.
Time will tell though. Excellent video 👏
Its already 4 years, we still believe that Sungjoy is true, *PLS GOD MAKE THEM REALLY HAPPY TOGETHER*
2020 and still here,waiting for them to got married for real
Lhesly Talon me too
Me too 😍😍😍
sameeee
Same😍
Also, i think all of his solos in the album are based on his feelings for Joy. Come to think of it, his 3x2 = 6 solos are actually some kind of light novel. It has chronological clock to it. In fact his songs are all very symbolic of season, Winter being the cold, desolate season the reminded him of his breaking up with Joy and spring a renewal of sorts. I think it's really his and Joy's love story (told by his perspective).
His first set seemed to be the prologue. Both had the theme of a breaking up with the loved one and he told us how they couldn't be together. From Winter also had this kind of vibe on it. It described his initial feeling of the outbreak. I think separated here means a lot. It's not like Sungjae and Joy didn't love each other, but their agencies separated them. (I would say SM played the most part because it seemed that it's actually Joy that dumped him at first).
His second set seemed to be the intermediary, it told us how to 'cope' with the breakup. In W.A.U he lamented the breakup by listening to her favorite playlist alone and saying life is not like a movie. His Chicken song had a happy tune, but i think it hides a darker side. It has some kind of coping mechanism. The Chicken here doubles as a 'person' (role model) and food. An analogy that he learned from Chicken (i think this is also Joy) on how to life and adjust. He used the phrase san eun bop. Many shippers think this is from a Tae Joo's poem that described the only way to live was to think about her (Joy).
His third set is some kind of reconciliation. He definitely didn't brood as much as the two songs but i think this describes on his feelings and actions after the breakup. HMHN had that very odd digress that i think speak loud of Joy. The song was depressing until a very odd lyric came : 'It's gonna be mine oh mine, I.O.Y.' I think that described that despite his depression after the break up, he was also determined to take her back. This is i think what BtoB do in 2016. Even the normally passive RV seemed to play along with BtoB once. BtoB was very adamant in leaking their relationship to the public at that year. Hypnotized also has this kind of lyrics. His lyrics said that even the 'leaves changed', he will always stay at the same place. (Meaning he will always wait for Joy to come back.)
And his CWTW is an epilogue, the coming of spring as in new hope. Here we have the answers from his previous songs. The girl (Joy) did come back to him. But i think this is also hinting that Sungjae and the girl has some kind of Long-Distance-Relationship with Sami acting as the girl's reminder (like Jennie's dog named Kai). But this song is a declaration that he will never forget their memories even as he went (or Joy went) somewhere. Maybe this also had connotations with the present where he will go to the military service. So it's like a parting gift also.
You could say his song's lyrics all connected. I won't go in detail here, because i'm too lazy to elaborate it all.
Yes, all of this actually STRONGLY pointed all to Joy. His CWTW answered whom he was talking about in the past albums. I think Sungjoy is very likely real at this point. It's going to be odd if they have no relationship anymore since this had to be passed by both SM and CUBE.
Waaaah. Very well. I am amazed on how you pointed it out. Actually, even Hyunsik said when he was the guest on HYENA ON THE KEYBOARD, Sungjae is into producing music also. And we all know how genius Sungjae is when it comes to song titles and double meaning lyrics. I believe your theory is right. Because Sungjae is a lowkey genius music producer. He tends to hide meanings on songs. 👍👍👍❤️
Genius indeed 😍. I love all your interpretations. But can I know the reason why the song has to be passed by both SM and Cube ?
Yap me too.. I wanna know the reason why CWTW has to pass by sm entertainment when sungjae is under cube management???pls answer..
@Suci Han when I saw Joy's personality during WGM, I saw she was not an ordinary girl, she was special, intelligent, fast thinking, very emotional, and loving, she was a good girl, she used her heart more than people, this kind of person will be loyal and cherished someone to death
@@sonamelody9631 what,that really happened ?
Dear Joy and Sungjae,
If u r dating in secret, we totally support u. So please don't take the risk of making it public to take criticism from immature fans.
Thank u
Ughh.... I m crying... 😭😭
Hope these two live a happy life in the future....
at 2:36 the fact that he didn't even deny that "broke up with girlfriend" but even proceeded to explain and said "that's not what happen" lol sungjae got speechless for a second
and also in an episode of Get it Beauty backstage break where Yoonju and Joy did a "bye-to-being-single pouch" and Joy was good at explaining at how she gonna pull off a first date and then Yoonju told her "It was from experience" "she has experience" and then joy just said she have seen in a drama many times hahaha
True! He looked so flustered there... And when he said "that's not what happened" I thought, ok it's because they are so together! 😁
omg lmao i also noticed that, in get it beauty hhahah i just laughed why joy is really expert about those things
@@jessiev2353 i think he said that because in the first place they are not really couple but they like each other. I think he's saying that he misses her but not to the point that they broke up.
What people don’t realise is that this series went on for a while, of course if they both have the same type they will start catching feelings and that’s exactly what happened. The ending of their series really shows that joy wasn’t faking her cry, you can tell it was genuinely real and Sungjae was holding his tears back. They really both fell for each other. You cant make a series like this and expect them not to fall for each other. There are things called feelings.... I really hope they are together.
I don’t think they are - and I’m not sure they ever actually dated or Dispatch def would’ve come out with it at this point - but I really wish they were. I think the honest truth is they both did catch feelings and coincidentally RV got huge after the show (Joy in particular) so she had no time for dating, so Sungjae was kinda left on sidelines with no opportunities to really ask her out.
Not to mention given RV’s busy schedule & SM’s reputation I’m sure the company wouldn’t really allow it or at least didn’t encourage it. They knew Joy’s their money ticket and that with upcoming film gigs and increasing CFs dating anyone - especially another singer from a show she was on - would jeopardize her position. Bc if they did date, then when people watch her acting on other dramas or doing press interviews with her costars they will say “Oh well you can tell she’s dating Sungjae bc these two have no chemistry” or “No wonder she’s dating Sungjae. There’s nothing between these two here.”
So having her single and without scandal is important for her brand and image as a famous singer and an actress. It’s also important from another business standpoint: scheduling. The less time she has to date or see a bf, the more time she has to focus on work and land gigs. And “stay focused” as the asshole CEOs would say - esp SM.
Lastly, I’m not sure that when she was on WGM she was even contractually allowed to date at all? I know their dating ban is over now but idk about back then... So that might’ve been another reason things never panned out. Bc by the time ban was over too much time had passed between them so dating wouldn’t be possible anymore.
But honestly I still think the real reason is not a dating ban. I think it’s bc of Joy & RV’s increasingly busy schedule after the show. I mean its no doubt that their group became more famous after 2015/16 and that Joy’s fandom grew exponentially as she turned more and more into a mature woman & talented actress. Meanwhile although BTOB is successful and Sungjae is an amazing actor/singer it’s not even comparable. (I mean I think he & the group are WIDELY underrated so don’t get me wrong - I think it’s really unfair/sad.) So it’s no surprise to me that while Sungjae has been rumored to have dated & had gfs since then, Joy hasn’t. It’s bc he’s had time to and his company has been more lax since there’s less eyes on him, while Joy barely has time to breathe with a packed schedule and SM’s notoriously strict eyes watching and monitoring her.
Point is, that’s why I think Sungjae wasn’t lying on that variety show when he says he hasn’t met with her since WGM bc she’s been so busy (he said they’ve both been busy but the implication was clear after she laughed and said “No, no, it’s not like that.. I’ve just been too busy” You can see she felt bad and that he wasn’t wrong.) But I don’t think this is for a lack of feeling: I think it’s very obvious on the show that she started to have real feelings for him. I think his feelings were slower to develop (much more like “Lets have fun, it’s a show!” & “Oh this girl is different/strange haha but maybe we can be friends”) but at the end he thought he would miss her as a little sister since they truly got close but then looking back he realizes he truly had feelings beyond that for her. With dudes sometimes it takes a sec, and Sungjae is def the funny immature playful type so I’m sure it didn’t really hit him till after, that maybe he liked her as more than just a close “noona.”
I think as he started dating other idols he realized even more how special and unique their time & connection was. He started missing her and regretting his actions even more as years went by, but worried it was too late now and too far gone. That’s why I do believe the song “Come With the Wind” is about Joy. A part of me does believe it might be delulu & far fetched, but another part really does see all the hints and similarities people have picked up on. Still, I’m not denying that it could be a coincidence and fans have gone nuts from lack of content haha.
But I dunno, I really do think that unfortunately they never dated or Dispatch wouldve come out w it at this point. I know some people think it was kept a secret from fan backlash but that’s not true bc at this point the Bbyu fandom is larger than any antis. So that’s def not the reason at all. And I don’t think it’s that they were good at hiding it/dating in secret bc I really don’t think Joy had any time to date at all between her schedule as RV member and recurring actress. That’s an overwhelming schedule, so I think that’s the real answer.
But I do think Sungjae’s heart is still with her but he feels it’s too late now and that she’s too popular for him/he missed his chance. As for Joy idk. On the show it was easy to read her feelings but it’s been more difficult since then bc she has so little freedom and is not allowed to freely express herself in song or on social media. So it’s tough to know how she feels. I think she did truly like him on the show towards the end but didn’t think it was reciprocated. I think she was insecure and in her heart felt he didn’t see her in a romantic way but as a protective older brother. (And I think he was giving her those signs bc that is how he thinks he felt at the time.) And now I just think she’s too busy so it’s not on her mind as much. I think she’s “moved on” but still holds a soft spot for him in her heart. Like a fond memory of her innocence and when she was less busy and could be more herself. She just thinks he never reciprocated her feelings and since he never REALLY reached out in a romantic way after the show she thought they are just friends. And then as years went by, that fizzled too. (on her end.)
But I do think she wants a love life and I do wish that for her bc I just want to see her happy. I think being successful can only bring you so much joy as an idol, you know? I think time to have a partner and feel normal is just as important. But personal time is a luxury not many idols are afforded, sadly...
Sorry, this was like an essay. I’m really sorry for such a long rant. Just wanted to express my hypothesis based on facts I see. I do wish they could come together at some point in future and give each other a chance, bc I think they are so well suited and had something special. And it’s a shame not to give smth you want a shot just bc you didn’t have time before. Truth is Sungjae, it may feel awkward, but it’s never too late! And sometimes its worth at least taking the shot. But if they don’t end up dating someday, then I just hope they’re happy w whoever they choose and that they find someone great! Bc they both deserve it.
#EndofEssay
Yes, that is feeling
Look at the new music video that was released for Sungjae's new song 'Come with The Wind'. It ahows his love for Sami, Melodies, and his hyungs but it also shows a girl. The girl may refer to Melody but most of the scenes look like they came straight out of WGM.....
Joy melody
Joy is a melody too she once said that...But if he wanna represent melodies,why didn't he use a different girl with different looks(not similar to joy)....Nd why did he use pics referring to wgm...When we think about that,it's kinda clear that it's joy
Ps : It's also for melodies 💙
How can he leave out his favourite melodies ❤💙
It's kinda weird when a melody says all this stuff 😅😅
@@sonamelody9631 saying this means you have a pure heart unlike some immature fans out there. You rock 😉
@@theunkownch331 aww thanks ♥️😊
Also guys did you all notice the date in the calender march 11?
It said "Day off"
Do you all remember during wgm in one of the episodes they marked "Day off for bbyu couple" on the same date 🙈
I think it's like one of the biggest hints you know♥️😊
I hope you all noticed that
Seungi: "Did you break up with your girlfriend?"
Sungjae: **laughs** "That's not what happened."
He didn't outright say NO or YES. But sort of hinted that they didn't break up. He just really like the poem to be used in a song... he he he.
I read a comment somewhere and I also believe it.
They have been dating for awhile now and even after Sungjae revealing so much about his love for Joy (like the one about poem and phone call etc.), there hasn’t been any news released about them (apart from the Yook album relating to Joy). It’s probably because Sungjae has a strong influence and connection and he has been protecting Joy and their relationship all this while. Just like the way he’s hasn’t revealed much about his family. Kyaa~
He’s such a keeper. So is Joy. Hard to find ppl like them in this world. I believe in them!! #bbyu all the way!!
I hope this is true omg 😢
I love how Joy is not trying at all to be cute. She just is. Effortlessly without cringe cute and sexy at the same time.
Okay the katalk one then Ilhoon suddenly sing "Umpah Umpah". There's no other explanation that can explain that situation other than it was a katalk from Sooyoung😂😂 and Sungjae reaction after Ilhoon sing Umpah Umpah is telling us the truth😂😂
Trueee. Im shocked at the umpah umpah ktalk msg and when ilhoon say congrats to him for the wedding 😮
Ilhoon knows everything kekeke~
@englishteacher skhmc which beatcom..ep?
@englishteacher skhmc thanks💚💙
There's something I've noticed, RV's Umpah Umpah was released Sept. 2019 while this incident happened Aug. 2019. OMG!!! They are real...
I really miss them being together
dude you actually just CAN'T deny this, this video is so well put together everything is so valid especially that last bit of BTOB as well, mates always know what's good. the timing of their jokes is not any coincidence e.g. "umpah umpah"
The umpah umpah kktalk really got me😂 also one more thing I notice is that the song that SJ sang for J when they first met, the lyrics is “you came to me like a spring breeze” and his new solo song is “come with the wind” I think they’re somehow “related”. Just as long as they’re not dating anyone, I still support them
this video actually makes a lot of sense probably the only ship video with actual proof
ive been bbyu couple fan since wgm and i did be glad to see them together and its sad that idols cant date freely cause the public feel like they can have an opinion on everything they do
Hater is gonna hate, as long as we keep loving our cute Bbyuu couples then we’re strong. Sungjoy teach me love, understanding and happiness and I will love them forever. Thank you so much for this video and let continue to love our cute couple!!!
Yeah agree 😂 Haters really gonna hate but who cares we believe in Bbyu Couple 😍💚💙 Fighting SungJoy!
Why is this so underrated?
TRUEEEE
There's a lot coincidence and a lot of hints especially from joy! I remember one of her instagram post, it was a photo when she's in jeju island with a caption "jeju island 💚💙" and i feel like that's a hint! And also in 2017 and 2018, i think someone already commented about this, but it was a video? Like a btob video (i'm not a part of the fandom, sorry) and i can totally hear joy's and wendy's voice in the background!!!! I'm a reveluv so i can tell that was their voices!!
So to sum up, i think they did break up after wgm, because in the last episode of wgm, joy said that she's not prepared enough to have a serious relationship and she wants sungjae to wait for her. But, sungjae is actually the one who really wants to continue the relationship even right after the program ends, if we look at the lyrics, it said that he wants joy to hug and stay with him. I think that's a very important clue. And then fast forward to 2018, i think they become closer and start the relationship in 2018. Because like what i just said, the clue is : that btob video and also a fancam where they were in an award show(?) and they keep trying to look at each other even tho they are far from each other. And another strong hint is when ilhoon saying "umpah umpah" randomly when there's a notification, and then, when ilhoon said "congratulations for your marriage", it was SO RANDOM but it was such a strong hint. And then 2020, i don't need to mention it again, but Come with the wind really reminds us of their story. I know that it wasn't just all about sungjoy, but i'm sure that joy is involved in the song, esp when you look at the lyric "a gift that came back to me" as you all probably knew, they always talk about gift in wgm! "Gift" is something that was mentioned a lot by them back then! Like in their first meeting, joy gives a surprise to sungjae and she said "the gift is me" to sungjae, and then, when they were in a beach, when sungjae asked to joy, what does she think of 2015? And then joy said that, "2015 is a gift for me", she explained the gifts are : red velvet winning in music show, red velvet finally release an album, and also meeting sungjae. She said sungjae is her gift. And also in the last episode, she said that sungjae is a precious gift to her! 💖 So joy mentioned gift a lot in the program and even their first meeting is about a gift 🥺
I lost it when that btob member randomly said "umpah umpah" after that sms. THIS SHIP IS SUPER REAL...for now, since there's still no rumor about each other's partner.
Me: already starting to ship Joy with another man.
Also me, esp after watching this: sungjoy is 100% REAL
I feel ya. I already ship Joy with like 20 other guys, but, at the same time - its 2020 and still hard for me to get over SungJoy.
ㅋ ㅋ ㅋ ㅋ ..I almost shipped joy with woodowan but ..but...I can't get over sungjoy 😅..
Same here...I shipped Joy with that ML from tempted but then I saw this guy and I was like....they need to get married in real ASAP
RIGHT! I saw a vjoy video that convinced me that vjoy is real and then this video literally just yeet vjoy video out of my brain
We melody are really ready to accept if they date and they officially announce it we will be the happiest persons... as both melody and Bbyu shippers... I too hope they date eachother... if not also it doesn't matter unless we love them ....
I really dont understand this kpop fans worried if their idol being in love with someone. If it was me, i would be pretty happy and pray for them, at least he/she has someone to be relied on at tough times. And it really is normal to have someone right?
And for them, i think sungjae really like joy. Because thats the gesture i gave to my wife before we got together. Always wanting to see her even a glimpse of her and get close to her as much as i can.
Honestly this couple seems like they are made for each other. Normally wgm couples are paired up only after interviewing about their ideal types and stuff. But Sungjae was not interviewed because PD nim was so amazed when he saw Sungjae. She was like "He was made for Joy" so she didn't bother to interview him. But just imagine if he was interviewed ?? We may never see bbyu couple together since Sungjae was into older girls before. So WGM will pair him with a Noona only. This seems like a destiny for me. Even after the show ended , fate kept bringing them together. I am amazed by this beautiful couple 🥰❤
time flies but i still cant get over with them.
Im glad im not the only one shipping them together after 4 years... Like im not even in their respective fandoms, but they just scream couple since wgm
This is great and this doesn't even cover everything. Joy's IG post with 326 photos, the drunk sungjae singing missing you. And when sungjae practicing love pain choreo, right after Ilhoon randomly sang umpah umpah, he immediately did the wrong moves after doing so well earlier. Also in From Winter, the guy look at the aloe-look-like plant right when the lyrics are 'noreul geuryeo' which means 'drawing you'.
But these are just coincidences alright...
What happened when sj sung missing you while drunk?
@@randomestburger9011 He's crying while singing the song.😣😭
@@lynngaballo4882 oh my goshhh.. how long was that after the end of wgm? T.T
@@randomestburger9011 yes. year 2017 I think
The hyungs never lied...
It's actually pretty amazing how are they really connected to each other even with the tiniest things. SJ loves fishing/fishes while SY's name means swimming in korean. SJ's name means star in korean and SY really loves night time. SJ really loves number 6 while SY's birth month is september which is the 9th month and if you'll gonna flip 9 it would turn to 6. SY looks a bit like SJ's mom and SJ is pretty similar to SY's dad. And the most fascinating thing is before WGM, they're totally different but when they met each other they slowly became similar to each other. I mean, that only happens to real married couples who are deeply in love to each other. "Becoming one" is pretty hard to achieve and it takes a very long time. They have too many similarities that I keep on wondering if they are a reincarnation of a twin siblings, or they are great lovers in their past lives. If I didn't know that wgm is a reality show, I would think that it was just a drama or some kind of fictional and all about them from their personalities up to their personal profiles and background was all planned. There's too many reasons to hold on to this ship so I will keep holding onto it.
YES tbh I think Sungjoy are twinflames brought together in this life purposefully 🤭👍
the show was fake but all those things that happened to them. it's not something that you just can say "fake" because we all know, at some moment, they were starting to get real. what happened between them, it was all real. they shared something real. that's why even until now, this ship isn't still sinking. but if someday, they'll find someone and start dating. i will be happy genuinely and will still support them. because at some point, they made me believe that love knows no time and right place. if you feel it, oh boy, you just do! i really wish they will have a drama in the future. i would really love that. bbyu♥︎
I will ship them till the end . I don't care if others think they are fake. I don't care if others don't want them to be together. I don't care what they say coz I know in my heart that they belong to each other. :) I have a strong faith of the two of them. Bbyu fighting!!!!!! 😊💪
I love and miss Bbyu. The fact that Joy got her ears pierced with Sungjae just makes me think of Bbyu everytime I see her wear earrings which basically is always!!
I just finished watching Sungjae's reaction to the music video of his song "Come with the wind". Some of the fans are saying that the music video was based on Sungjae and Joy memories in WGM. I think Sungjae and his agency decided to make the reaction video to explain and to clear some things because the netizens are dragging Joy's name again. Whatever may happen in the future, we will support our uri Maknae especially in his lovelife, whoever may be the lucky girl will own Sungjae's heart. ❤️
Not gonna lie, I watched WGM because of these two and I ended watching WGM after it was their last time together. They were like my favorite couple back then. I miss them together so much.
We gonna talk about how Sungjae said his lover is the waves and Joy's actual name, Sooyoung, means to swim in Korean??
c. gwakamole at the moment they are fixing my pc, but when i get it back we will talk about that and much more..😏
I just noticed it now 😮 wah
"Sungjae smiles joyfully" 😭🌺
even if haters deny it or anyone saying it was over, they can't deny that these two wonderful people hold so much power as a couple. We may not confirm what they had felt was real, only them, but we also don't have the right to invalidate what they have shared were their own moments to cherish. I miss them. They both deserve the best. ❤️
also kudos to wonderfully making and explaining everything in this video editornim
I may ship joy from other guys(because she's shippable lol), but I'm never ever gonna give this Sungjoy up, this couple is still number 1 n my heart. Will always wish them together. I will only stop dreaming bout them if they have someone else and confirmed by themselves
The fact is that we have lost many shippers after joy got casted in many dramas and other variety shows...but it doesn't matter...the one who still ships them is the loyal one and not fake
#Stillbelieve #bbyuforlife
bbyu ship is stronger, bc it was real.
this is the one of reason why they should drama together 🙇🏻♀️🙇🏻♀️🙇🏻♀️
Couldn't agree more. BBYU couple felt so real that I just can't let go of them. And the variety shows (one of them visit) sometimes inserts
things about the other. I just can't help but hope they will be together in the future if not now (because there selfish fans who wants tgeir idol to be single). Can't imagine myself if either one of them is in a relationship with other people otger than bbyu. BBYU FOREVER
Okay, I hurt myself again by watching the last episode of WGM and that was a pretty dumb decision I made by hurting myself more. I love this ship for years and its quite impressive to see detailed coincidences, huhuhu.
For 2020, in the midst of this pandemic, SUNGJOY, I STILL BELIEVE IN YOU.
I even decided not to watch the last episode, my heart is very broken
I love Sungjoy. Also, Joy is the prettiest when she's with Sungjae.
fact
Fact bro
It's 2024 and I'm still here.
Me too 😅
me 3
sungjae seemed like he was so in love with joy. i can see from his eyes, from his gesture, from how he took care of joy. how i pray they could be back tgt, but i'm gonna feel bad for crush. crush is a good person, so sungjae too. whatever it is, i'll let the heaven decides which is best for everyone
That peekaboo gesture...he also used it in their cf fitz and Joy doing/posing the gesture on only one for me😭 i kennat with these two. There are absolutely codes that we need to decode bbyu fams and they literally feeding us. huhuhu
Wow.. I feel so emotional after watching this video. You're right!!!! There are more reasons to believe in Bbyu than to not!! And we don't loose anything when we ship these two, rather we gain happiness and inspiration!!! I just hope Bbyu shippers won't entertain haters anymore and won't go beyond the line as well. Let's keep believing in Sungjae and Joy and support them!!! 쀼 ♥♥♥x♥♥
Watching WGM with those two, It made me feel so different towards the both of them because I knew f them both before watching and I fell in love with them from their acting and singing and we all always have this certain way of seeing our idols but watching them, together, on WGM made me see them in a whole different light and I fell in love with them even more ya know. For me personally I'm scared to love and express my feelings openly and half the time I don't even know what I'm feeling. What I'm trying to say is that I saw their growth and I hope that some day I can experience the same kind of feelings, I know what they felt was real there was know acting in that, their eyes told no lie. When watching it, it was like I felt what they felt ya know, I cried when they cried, I was happy when they were happy, all the emotion was there and it was real. This is what I support because I know it was real.
When hyungs also byuu shippers... Hahahaha
This just gave me hope, I just finished watching their episodes and I'm ugly crying, I don't tend to believe what's shown in these but they seemed so real and made for each other. As for now I'm joining you in continuing to support until official statements are released
Welcome to the family 🙏❤️
It's almost 2021 but still bbyu shippers family is still growing because a lot of people love their chemistry. Let's all wait for the right time. They already did a duet song 'Young Love' and an advertisement which is 'Fitz' so let's wait for sungjae in 2021 or 2022 because he's currently serving in the military. In 2021 or 2022 please give them a drama, it'll be a hit. Or just give us an update of your dating status🤣💙
Before I shipped hard SongSong couple and they become true in real life , but I feel sorry after their divorce..
and I really hope BBYU will end up together , getting married and have happy family .. you know what I mean right ?? I’m still believe with them , idk why ... this is just my feeling!
Have you guys seen sj’s new mv “come with the wind”? the scenes there were memories of him and joy in wgm. They’re dating and that’s FACTS.
Im not fan of kpop but after watching sungjoy wgm just last year 2019. I became interested in red velvet, btob, become fan of joy and checking songs and lyrics made by sungjae. And now one of these people who wants happiness and more success for these couple. Hoping to see them again in their real marriage. 😁
I'm so happy for Joy now with Crush :') and Sungjae wherever he is or whatever he plans on doing now. I just missed this ship and their WGM episodes were my comfort. I wish them all the best! 🥺❤️
I'm not a fan of both of them before, i just know that RV that time and that sungjae was also from a kpop group. After watching WGM, i got to cry, laugh and fangirl to the both of them. I can't believe at first that this ship was that powerful to the point that i gotta really ship them badly bc i can see the chemistry is on another level compared to the scripted kdramas. I still miss them and i will continue to support this ship in the future!
this, then sungjae's new MV Come with the wind !!! Bbyu couple is real!!!!😍😍😍❤
I come here, for throwback the time. Watching all their videos at WGM in 2021. and diving too deep loving them. Again and over again
You don't have any idea on how much this single video gives me so much hope for them
i came across this just now and my sungjoy heart has been enabled again 😭 it's just so sad though especially that sungjae just went to the military and will be gone for more than a year. If this is real, i just imagine joy running to him and hugging him like in their last concert in wgm.
Watch Sungjae solo come with the wind
they’re such a perfect couple ☹️ like i seriously would not mind if they were together. they genuinely looked happy with each other. other fans need to understand that if having a significant other makes them happy then so be it. why should idols be unhappy just because their fans don’t like something they do ? idols should be free to do and love whoever they want, they’re humans too, they have feelings just like the rest of us.
"Come with the wind"
Like it so much... Stay healty and wish all the best for yook sungjae and joy 🥰😍♥️💙
I've been waiting for your videos for a long time but it seems like you already stop shipping them so I just keep repeating old videos of sungjoy and now here you are posting a video for 20 mins of them I'm very thankful 🤧💓
I miss them so much that I keep repeating this video 😭
Yt algorithm brought me here after a long time hahaha.. And what a right timing, just when I'm about to delude myself again. A news of Joy confirming her dating rumor with Crush came out.. hahahahaha I was just wishing for a dating rumor of Joy this coming November but it blew up early and with another man 😭 Still congrats Sooyoungie hoping for your happy relationship. Fighting! ✊
their chemistry is no joke :(
But how tf the hints were so perfect
I guest there’s never too late to become bbyu shipper. I have faith for them to be together.
To the one who create this and edit this YOURE A GENIUS !
I love how your video makes my sungjoy ❤ flutter..im a newbie melody,and an exol too..bcoz of wgm bbyuu couple i've got to know how talented sungjae is..as well as all members of Btob❤❤
Thank you for this ❤️. 5 years and I’m still waiting and believing in them!
My Crush on Red Velvet is Joy since their happiness era and Sungjae is my crush in BTOB since I discovered them(their ballads, mwah!!! Bravo!!!!) DON'T TOUCH OUR BBYU SHIP!!!
이건 진짜 너무 확실하다... 변명조차 못하겠어
I love them both so much, and i hope that they're together. They really grew with each other during the year they were filming, and Joy especially had grown into such an independent and beautiful woman and I hope that Sungjae was thee through it all
I believe they fall in love each other , how sungjae look at joy it's really mean everything.
I am hurting myself, went back to watch after the dating news of joy and crush. 😭😭😭😭 my bbyu heart huhuhu
Damnn i respect you for your deduction and investigation skills in making this video and i couldn't agree more...i started shipping this couple like a year after wgm ended and i still do ship them...hope for the best and i will still support them even if they have somebody else going strong bbyu !!!
Thank you for this video. All the proofs why I still hold on to this couple. Not even mentioning joys ig receipts and number of posts playa. I LOVE IT! I LOVE SMART COUPLE AND SHIPPERS!
i'm still here, waiting for the both of them!! pls continue to sail!!
“Is a gift, you who came back to me” Come with the Wind by Yook Sungjae. Really thought this meant they found their way back to each but ig that was not the story.
Came here after joys news of dating crush and well what can I say… my bbyu heart is broken 😞 but I wish nothing but the best to Joy and Crush 🎆. I will continue to support each of them individually from now on🤍🤍.
For someone who can’t get over, this video is so helpful!! I mean we are in hunger and thirst for them, and you just gave something for us to be satisfied for.
thank you for the video! ever since one of their wgm videos got onto my recommended out of nowhere my feels came back and your video has such strong evidence (finally one that is concrete out of the sea of many videos out there)
also adding on to sugarman 2 you can see that both of them are wearing rings on their ring finger (both on the right hand) while the rest of the btob hyungs did not wear much accessories (other than hyunsik) and the rings look so similar to the one from wgm (the episode where joy did the massage for sj) am not sure about the ring that joy is wearing but the one sj is wearing is SO similar!
My tears come out. TT feeling so real. Hope they'll be together forever.
Dating or not, I will still support them. No matter what. I love them not only as 'bbyu couple' but as Red Velvet Joy and BtoB Yook Sungjae. 💚💚
Sungjae and Joy , whatever is happening now , I know what both of you felt that time was real and pure. You guys were in love. I'm sure Joy's first love is Sungjae. It's just sad that their love just got crushed by obsessive fans. Nobody deserves that. Well now our ship is sunk. But I guess I should thank Sungjae and Joy for all the good memories. Their young love gave us so much energy and happiness. Joy is happy in her new relationship with crush. I want you to be happy too Sungjae love. I hope you a get a good partner too . I don't know what's going on but be good good friends you two. Next time when you meet on stage , I hope to see two besties greeting each other comfortably. We'll see that right ?? May god bless you both...
It just breaks my heart. Not that I don't support Joy and crush together but you know when you were invested in a thing for too long and suddenly it just gets over like that...
I still can’t get over them 😞
Samee