I love how in the 2nd phase Zoraal Ja's body seems to have a spot for a 2nd head, which is missing. With what we know about his father and applying titles, Zoraal Ja had resolve, but he lacked all reason in his actions.
It's both the abandonment of reason and a perfect visual to show just how badly he wanted to be better than his father, his very form trying to replicate him
He saw no miracle in who he was, only the shadow of who he wanted to be, makes sense his twisted final form would resemble a mangled version of his father.
If your rival is blue, seeks power, tries to surpass his father, is fought on top of a tower, willingly harms his own son, and has a devil looking 2nd form. That's not Zoraal Ja, that's Vergil.
Love that if you're doing this fight with npc's, wuk lamat says she has no idea what to do for the 2nd phase mechanics, so she just stands there getting pummeled. In fact, many dungeons and solo duties in the expansion have a lot of funny npc interactions that i love.
A lot of mechanics that involve dodging, Wuk Lamat comments on it with a funny chide. Estinien also helps Alphinaud dodge some moves in this fight and Alisae will jokingly make fun of them for it.
No part of this trial had any right to go as hard as it did. Listening to the theme while waiting for the queue to pop, having the majority of the party be completely new to the fight, Zoraal Ja's VA knocking it out of the park, the fight itself...when I think back on Dawntrail, this trial experience is what I'm going to remember. Holy shit.
when you play actively with the effects on you just kinda get used to them and learn to look past them. I play and do everything with effects completely on aswell, I just hate how "empty" every group content feels with them gone.
@@Loispealz34 Doesn't seem too unlikely that a handful of Zoraal Ja loyalist Mamool Ja were in Yyasulani (am I spelling that right?) when the Dome went up. Just because we don't see them in the MSQ doesn't mean they weren't there. We see plenty in Tuliyolal, after all, and Xak Tural is right there.
The beginning of the song, with how it opens, gives me Dark Messenger vibes. Zoraal Ja reminds me of an expy of Kuja, in fact, albeit one who's a warrior instead of a powerful mage. A similar superiority-inferiority complex, a desire to be more than his creator/father, a complete descent into madness with the consumption of souls feeding into that final form, and then in his last, dying moments he does see reason and is... not so much friendly, per se, but is more open about his motivations than he ever was, and does give voice to his regrets. Even the arena makes me think of Memoria in FF9.
The elements of his second form seem to take some minor inspirations from Necron. I like how both main antagonists of this expansion reference it. Zarool Ja taking elements from his design, while the final boss (Eternal Queen in Japanese) references Necron's Japanese name, the Eternal Darkness.
@@SweetyMiki It actually has elements of both Trance Kuja and Necron, if you think of it. Zoraal Ja taking power to far transcend his limits and it causes a physical change, much like how Trance augments and changes the characters in FF9. It's actually kinda interesting.
@@BlazeIgnitus Holy smokes! Yep! Good point you brought up! Kuja was only able to enter Trance by taking all the souls Garland had harvested from Gaia (which had a lot of souls from Alexandria's destruction in disc 3) that had been held within the Invincible. Zoraal Ja did the same in Dawntrail by harvesting all the souls within Alexandria.
Was about to say I've been hearing more Dark Messenger, but I've gotten intense Necron vibes from the wails that come from the beginning of the song. Also like Necron's theme it has a very dark tone that hypes and speeds up as it progresses with electronic beats.
How I imagine the development of this expansion went; The rest of the team: Yeah let's have a lighthearted adventure with happy characters for once. Give the WOL a break. Soken: I have made a song for a boss fight! Yoshi.P: Cool let's hear it! Soken: *Blasts this song* Yoshi.P: ...fuck this song is too good... let's add the remnants of a long destroyed reflection trying to invade and kill everyone to fuel their immortality with technology that even the Allagans would do a double take at!!! The rest of the team: *sighs intensify as they open the trauma drawer once more.*
I love that they NEVER explain why Zoraal Ja has a son. He doesn't seem like he ever wanted him, and there weren't any other Mamool Ja that we saw in Heritage Found. The plot demanded it and so the writers did it.
Even more funnier when you realize that vergil did that shit too in DMC4 Special Edition, We have no explanation(or just me) as to why he decided to have a kid.
@@DyneOnline Yep. Similar situation with zenos' avatar. Was extremely interested in its awesome design and then it turned out to be a major character.
This has to be Takafumi Imamura and it actually fits so well and perfectly portrays the power-hungry Zoraal Ja. The chaotic nature is also conveyed at 2:35 and it's pretty neat. It also seems like it's a pretty long track since it loops at 4:14.
In other duties I’m trying not to die by wiping the tears away from my eyes. In this one I was trying not to die by head banging so hard. This music is such a banger.
The screwed-up part of this theme is that it still has bits of the leitmotif of "Smile" in it. Particularly the part at 1:54 up to 2:12 sounds like the chorus of the song
It took me a bit to fully formulate what this song reminded me of, but now I realize - this track feels really Dragon Ball Z in a way I can't get enough of, it's really fantastic.
I dont think a villain in XIV has made me so irrationally angry (Not in a badly written way). When he tried to harm his own son, I started seeing red and every fiber of my being wanted to skin him alive.
When he *tried* to harm the kid?! My brother, he choked out the boy during the cutscenes before this trial, and then the phase shift has him slice through the image of the kid just before changing form… he already jumped past that barrier.
Boi, when this is first time for all party members. The feeling is really incredible and so intense. We finally defeat the boss after wiped more than 5 times. Incredibly fun trial!!
I've turned music up before for fights, but this is probably the first time I 100'd the music volume in game since I first played XIV lol. This song had no business being such a banger when we fought Zoraal Ja.
One thing ive gotten from this track besides the mentioned Dark Messenger and Necron vibes is the tone and theming of the song itself. I immediately got "Cyberpunk meets DOOM (2016)" for the sound but picked up on some more interesting notes. The chainsaw sounding indistrial sounds could represent him literally putting souls into his body and blending everything together. Before Wuk Lamat comes in he almost loses his sense of self. He comes to his senses after hearing her but only holding onto the hatred of being inferior and using that as his driving factor. The data moshing/whirring sound makes me think of the abilities of the device hes using to load more souls. So he's taking in more and more and mixing things together losing himself entirely to his greed and pride.
one thing ill be upset about was that they never showed who galool ja's mother is, there isn't a single other mamool ja inside the dome? unless they were just offscreen the whole time and it'll be explained in patch content but still
4:45 - The moment I saw this, any feeling of regret or want to save Zoraal Ja went out the window. In that moment I went from: "I hope we can save him..." to "I will burn you alive until you beg for mercy! You're dead meat!"
After Athena won Mother of the Year last year, I'm proud to present the Father of the Year award to Zoraal Ja.
Damn Zoraal Ja being a rather shit father but it gets even worse when *HE NAMED HIS SON AFTER HIS FATHER*.
YOU IDIOT, YOU HAD NO REASON TO DO THAT!
Don't forget the Son of The Year: Asahi!
Man, what a cursed family unit those three.
@@ArCvnDnt Zoraal can win all Father AND Son AND Brother of the years lol
A triple crown winner.
Friend of the year Zenos
I love how in the 2nd phase Zoraal Ja's body seems to have a spot for a 2nd head, which is missing. With what we know about his father and applying titles, Zoraal Ja had resolve, but he lacked all reason in his actions.
The way it looks is like the head was ripped off too, like Zoraal Ja actively discarded Reason.
It's both the abandonment of reason and a perfect visual to show just how badly he wanted to be better than his father, his very form trying to replicate him
He saw no miracle in who he was, only the shadow of who he wanted to be, makes sense his twisted final form would resemble a mangled version of his father.
I was too busy having my ass whooped to notice this-glad I came for the music and saw your comment!!!
I only noticed right before he died since I was so focused on not dying
If your rival is blue, seeks power, tries to surpass his father, is fought on top of a tower, willingly harms his own son, and has a devil looking 2nd form.
That's not Zoraal Ja, that's Vergil.
oh ffs, i totally lost it when i read this LOL IT MAKES SENSE NOW
I definitely AGREE. Also his ost rocks
I have no counter-argument to this.
Not only that but, the reason he seeks power is to surpass his family and mostly his father. I fucking love this game.
Lizard Vergil.
Blue? Deadbeat dad? Has a cool transformation? NEEDS MORE POWER!?
Square enix: "We have vergil at home"
underrated comment
You get to the throne and zoraal ja is just sitting on a plastic chair
I’m completely unable to see this now and the word shall be spread
He literally had a kid and just left him as well so yeah.
That means the Kid is about to become Nero. And considering his adoptive family he might well become a Nero alright.
Love that if you're doing this fight with npc's, wuk lamat says she has no idea what to do for the 2nd phase mechanics, so she just stands there getting pummeled. In fact, many dungeons and solo duties in the expansion have a lot of funny npc interactions that i love.
Ikr! My fav is when Wuk Lamat saw the cris cross blade and just shouted WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO BE SEEING HERE?!?!
No wonder I was dying I was following her 😂
A lot of mechanics that involve dodging, Wuk Lamat comments on it with a funny chide.
Estinien also helps Alphinaud dodge some moves in this fight and Alisae will jokingly make fun of them for it.
@@ubermaster1 Love how Estinien's out here doing raid callouts
Eventually she says "no more thinking i'm going with feeling" and that's how i raid savage
Guys, the way my jaw DROPPED when I heard this theme. This had no business being such a banger.
Even now I'm --- 👌😤
No part of this trial had any right to go as hard as it did. Listening to the theme while waiting for the queue to pop, having the majority of the party be completely new to the fight, Zoraal Ja's VA knocking it out of the park, the fight itself...when I think back on Dawntrail, this trial experience is what I'm going to remember. Holy shit.
Yakuza, SMT, Metal Gear music, all whilst fighting a Covenant-looking dude.
I love Final Fantasy
Not to mention the Devil May Cry vibes as he transforms.
the track itself gives me undertale/terraria biblically accurate angel fight but also mechanized
All amazing soundtracks
Don’t forget xenoblade a bit with the monado looking weapon and ouroboros looking form
Between this and the dungeon before it, I'm thoroughly convinced Soken and his team have been playing a lot of Yakuza recently
Good. Those games have sick af music. Even the spinoff Judgment series has sick music. Kog and Fog are dope af tracks
This sounds exactly like something that would be in the newer yakuza games
soundtrack is insane but even more insane is how you are able to see anything with all effect on
Madlad cleared dsr and top with full effect, his power is incomprehensible
when you play actively with the effects on you just kinda get used to them and learn to look past them. I play and do everything with effects completely on aswell, I just hate how "empty" every group content feels with them gone.
Your eyes adjust to it after a while.
The effects are above ground. They do a very poor job at obscuring the ground, allowing us all to see what's coming.
First time on this one was all effects on. Definitely made for a harder fight.
this song is so good but the smn portrait has me in tears
It's a really good one. I use a portrait like that for SMN in PvP.
i had to pause the video to have a gooooooood look at that portrait. it's marvelous XD
Man when he pauses a second for his son that hit so hard.
Now the questions remain. How, who, when and why?
I mean i do not mind, but the kid kinda came out of left field.
That was the point of no return.
@@Loispealz34 I'm gonna assume futuristic clone technology. They have soul extraction and pseudo-eternal life, doesn't seem too unlikely.
@@Loispealz34 Doesn't seem too unlikely that a handful of Zoraal Ja loyalist Mamool Ja were in Yyasulani (am I spelling that right?) when the Dome went up. Just because we don't see them in the MSQ doesn't mean they weren't there. We see plenty in Tuliyolal, after all, and Xak Tural is right there.
@@Loispealz34 Perhaps it will explained in post-Dawntrail MSQ.
The beginning of the song, with how it opens, gives me Dark Messenger vibes. Zoraal Ja reminds me of an expy of Kuja, in fact, albeit one who's a warrior instead of a powerful mage. A similar superiority-inferiority complex, a desire to be more than his creator/father, a complete descent into madness with the consumption of souls feeding into that final form, and then in his last, dying moments he does see reason and is... not so much friendly, per se, but is more open about his motivations than he ever was, and does give voice to his regrets. Even the arena makes me think of Memoria in FF9.
Not to mention that Zoraal Ja's rival is, much like Kuja, his sibling to whom he believes he is superior but is ultimately defeated by.
The elements of his second form seem to take some minor inspirations from Necron. I like how both main antagonists of this expansion reference it. Zarool Ja taking elements from his design, while the final boss (Eternal Queen in Japanese) references Necron's Japanese name, the Eternal Darkness.
@@SweetyMiki It actually has elements of both Trance Kuja and Necron, if you think of it. Zoraal Ja taking power to far transcend his limits and it causes a physical change, much like how Trance augments and changes the characters in FF9. It's actually kinda interesting.
@@BlazeIgnitus Holy smokes! Yep! Good point you brought up! Kuja was only able to enter Trance by taking all the souls Garland had harvested from Gaia (which had a lot of souls from Alexandria's destruction in disc 3) that had been held within the Invincible. Zoraal Ja did the same in Dawntrail by harvesting all the souls within Alexandria.
Was about to say I've been hearing more Dark Messenger, but I've gotten intense Necron vibes from the wails that come from the beginning of the song.
Also like Necron's theme it has a very dark tone that hypes and speeds up as it progresses with electronic beats.
Yoshi-P: "So I've started playing Doom 2016-"
Soken: "Say no more!"
The new Warframe boss is looking pretty dope.
Lol i was thinking it reminded me of something, the second is phase is zoraal ja prime🤣
More like Zoraal Ja Umbra xD
ZORAAL JA COMING IN WITH THE STEEL CHAIR
Electrope chair
The music, the gameplay, the ambience, THE LANDSCAPE, this fight had it all, it was purely fantastic.
How I imagine the development of this expansion went;
The rest of the team: Yeah let's have a lighthearted adventure with happy characters for once. Give the WOL a break.
Soken: I have made a song for a boss fight!
Yoshi.P: Cool let's hear it!
Soken: *Blasts this song*
Yoshi.P: ...fuck this song is too good... let's add the remnants of a long destroyed reflection trying to invade and kill everyone to fuel their immortality with technology that even the Allagans would do a double take at!!!
The rest of the team: *sighs intensify as they open the trauma drawer once more.*
I love that they NEVER explain why Zoraal Ja has a son. He doesn't seem like he ever wanted him, and there weren't any other Mamool Ja that we saw in Heritage Found. The plot demanded it and so the writers did it.
It's absolutely going to come up in the patch story. These sort of unanswered questions at the end of a x.0 storyline are not new.
Even more funnier when you realize that vergil did that shit too in DMC4 Special Edition, We have no explanation(or just me) as to why he decided to have a kid.
@@DyneOnline Yep. Similar situation with zenos' avatar. Was extremely interested in its awesome design and then it turned out to be a major character.
My assumption was that the mother died, and thus Zoraal Ja had no memories of her and possibly the son as a result
My headcanon is that Gulool Ja is a clone created by some overeager scientists
3:55 - 4:14
Insanity Innocence from Shadowbringers!
This has to be Takafumi Imamura and it actually fits so well and perfectly portrays the power-hungry Zoraal Ja. The chaotic nature is also conveyed at 2:35 and it's pretty neat. It also seems like it's a pretty long track since it loops at 4:14.
Soken's Team just absolutely blasting us with tune after tune
This was so damn fun! The music. The mechanics. All of it
You think of Vergil when you look at him. I think of Olga Flow when I look at him.
We are not the same.
That's exactky the vibe I was getting from him !
Guess we finally got our end of the PSO2 collab from several years ago
WAs not expecting a DMC collab for an MSQ trial, but it was well worth it
This electric guitar/drums drop at 1:00 hits sooooo hard
In other duties I’m trying not to die by wiping the tears away from my eyes. In this one I was trying not to die by head banging so hard.
This music is such a banger.
thank you for keeping things sapoiler free as can be my friend you are a godsend
i wonder if this is an imamura track. the percussion and guitar remind of the emerald weapon theme.
The screwed-up part of this theme is that it still has bits of the leitmotif of "Smile" in it. Particularly the part at 1:54 up to 2:12 sounds like the chorus of the song
Kudos to the boss for actually making you kneel.
2:35 - 3:15 is definitely my favorite part.
That summoner portrait 😮
It took me a bit to fully formulate what this song reminded me of, but now I realize - this track feels really Dragon Ball Z in a way I can't get enough of, it's really fantastic.
I dont think a villain in XIV has made me so irrationally angry (Not in a badly written way). When he tried to harm his own son, I started seeing red and every fiber of my being wanted to skin him alive.
When he *tried* to harm the kid?! My brother, he choked out the boy during the cutscenes before this trial, and then the phase shift has him slice through the image of the kid just before changing form… he already jumped past that barrier.
Battle enters second phase:
"Now I'm motivated."
LET THE VICTOR'S REIGN BE SANCTIONED BY THE BLOOD OF THE FALLEN.
Ffxiv is a puzzle game
This comment knocked me all the way back to a YTP called 'Sentence Mixing about Sentence Mixing'
I peed a little when he turned into a Necron motif. Ive been waiting since 2017 for FF9 to be centre stage 🎉
Boi, when this is first time for all party members. The feeling is really incredible and so intense. We finally defeat the boss after wiped more than 5 times. Incredibly fun trial!!
Its like combining the Suiccide Mission from Mass Effect 2 with Doom , all in one vibe. Somebody check Soken for hacks. That man doesn't miss.
SMT intensifies
Yeah, hard to hear such heavy synth elsewhere
"You WILL pay child support!"
Whoah dt music goes hard, can't wait to get here. Just started dt msq though, gonna take a while
Literally cried whenever Gulool Ja was on screen, so for Zoraal Ja to nearly choke him THEN swipe him...absolute hatred🤬
One thing I only noticed after the fight, but he has a stump of a second neck in his second form... To some extent, he's still trying to be Gajuul.
This hits pretty dang hard. Like a mix between metal and darksynth.
Also thank you Shtola for guiding me through this fight 🙏
GOT DAMN! The theme for this Star Ocean boss goes hard af!
This song goes so hard
The music for both of the last two trials is really fucking fantastic.
this is so good
THEY COOKED
I've turned music up before for fights, but this is probably the first time I 100'd the music volume in game since I first played XIV lol. This song had no business being such a banger when we fought Zoraal Ja.
"Aaaaahwubadug!"
arbiter meets virgil azz lines from him at the start
its awesome
I could listen to 1:14 all day... godDAMN that shit goes hard.
Wasn't expecting to have to fight Sin Devil Trigger Zoraal Ja but you know what its sick as hell so ill absolutely take that
This music goes so, so hard.
This slapsssss
"no thoughts head empty"
-Zoraal Ja Ja, probably
Best trial in the entire game
Mick Gordon and Soken collab sounding crisp 🔥
Wort wort wort
Soken doesn't miss
GAWD DAYUM MICK GORDON IS THAT YOU?!
This has to be the heaviest FF track since Otherworld when you fight Sin in 10.
0:19-0:55 this Paper Mario villain ass beat (i mean that was a compliment)
Soken cooked so hard, he's still carrying the flames of the Phoenix from 16 to make the soundtrack for Dawntrail
Haha! Well said.
It probably is a Imamura track, tbf.
This goes unnecessarily hard, but I was freaking eager to beat his ass. Peak gaming
One thing ive gotten from this track besides the mentioned Dark Messenger and Necron vibes is the tone and theming of the song itself.
I immediately got "Cyberpunk meets DOOM (2016)" for the sound but picked up on some more interesting notes.
The chainsaw sounding indistrial sounds could represent him literally putting souls into his body and blending everything together. Before Wuk Lamat comes in he almost loses his sense of self. He comes to his senses after hearing her but only holding onto the hatred of being inferior and using that as his driving factor.
The data moshing/whirring sound makes me think of the abilities of the device hes using to load more souls. So he's taking in more and more and mixing things together losing himself entirely to his greed and pride.
your honor? it's peak
one thing ill be upset about was that they never showed who galool ja's mother is, there isn't a single other mamool ja inside the dome? unless they were just offscreen the whole time and it'll be explained in patch content but still
I think with the future technology they had he tried cloning himself
Why does that place he makes everyone appear in look almost like the Historia Crux from FFXIII-2M
Foolishness Dante, Foolishness
NGL, this sounds like keepers of the gate from dusk
Ifrit flames may be hot but Zoraal is hotter
Man Zoraal Ja was done DIRTY.
I NEED MORE POWER
Sounds like something out of cyberpunk 😂. And I love it
Anyone else get some Command & Conquer vibes from this one?
Best OST's in ANY expansion, ecery song was COOKING so fucking hard i was orgasming
You could say it’s an aural orgasm, an AURgasm, if you will
Jotaro had enough of all that BS, he turned into a viper main (that's the boss Japanee voice actor for reference)
Yep both are Daisuke Ono.
1:20 command and conquer vibes
Arbiter from halo looks hella cool yo
Go Go Mamool Ja Rangers
Grandma sicko mode
Mick Gordon?
Kinda has those vibes.
First time in all of dawntrail I actually went damn that's some good music
This is quite similar to Pokey theme in mother 2 lol
Zoraaal Ja Ja Means Business
Still would. I can fix him.
I hope those machines blocked pain to your every last nerve
*_BECAUSE IMMA GO LOOKING!!_*
Lizard Vergil dressed up like Thel 'Vadam.
1:14 always sounds like a whoope cushion or someone blowing a raspberry, otherwise this track bangs
I can't unhear it now and I hate you.
Sounds like it's heavily inspired by the soundtrack of the Command and conquer game. big ups Frank Klepacki
4:45 - The moment I saw this, any feeling of regret or want to save Zoraal Ja went out the window. In that moment I went from: "I hope we can save him..." to "I will burn you alive until you beg for mercy! You're dead meat!"
I was thinking that after fighting, his child would come and convince him to join our side until he did this
2:35 terraria type beat
Is this a remix of another song from ff? I can't pin point it if it is
Nope, this is an original
Of course the Arbit...I mean Zoraal ja will have a Mick Gordan ass KI theme
FXIV sound team does it again!