Computer Space Ball Arcade Fix Part #2 - With guests Warren and Adam! ZOMG!
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Nutting and Associates Computer Space Ball Arcade Fix, PART #2!!! - เกม
Once you put the knobs on them it will give it a bigger surface to grab and it will be a lot easier.
DeLuSioNaL's Arcade grab dem knobs boi!
John's are the only videos I thumbs up before watching :)
Thanks pal!
John you are a fundamental and important peace in this puzzle to kept alive the arcades history. Please continues with your hard work and share your knowledge
! Thank you a lot!
warren and adam are back!
John . . . Thanks so much for making these videos especially the way they are filmed showing everything, I like the more older arcades you've repaired - The ComputerSpace Videos were excellent and now we've got this series . . This is one of the greatest youtube channels there is! . .
Adam and Warren, 2 of the best guys to have in your corner in situations like this. Just turn your games round when its sunny, you will have light for seeing in the back of the cab and it darker at the monitor side. About the paddles, when you opened them up to deoxit them did they have to be put in the same as they came out to keep it calibrated to centre so you get full range on the screen? Fix Power Drift next dude. Love that game.
Great video, enjoy watching you guys troubleshooting the antiques.
I'm very excited about this game repair, I found the computer space incredibly interesting and loved watching you, Warren, and Adam try and crack a tough puzzle, almost like a 1940's Chicago detective case
Renovating old plastics can be done miraculously after cleaning by wiping liberally with transmission fluid. I know, I did not believe it either.
1:34:36 "It goes up to eleven" was popular amongst some amplifier manufacturers IIRC. It suggests a higher volume if the dial goes "up to eleven" instead of just 10.
Nah...Games of table tennis - 'Ping PONG' are scored to 21 or 11 for a half game.
It was a joke in the movie "This Is Spinal Tap", but I think some real amps were made after that.
Great game. cool to see it working! Enjoyed seeing Warren and Adam!
Saw the thumbnail for this episode and thought, "John's bringing out the big guns for this one!".
Great vid John! Good to see Warren back! You guys work well as a trio!
I told myself i would watch this all week. Watched it all already XD
Great to hear that there is progress on the Pole Position FPGA!!! Also I LOVE the "Space Ball" challenge for cash...ha ha ha.
hey John thank you for your videos, i just started buying my own arcades, and now i cant stop i have 5 in 1 week. love your ch bro!!
That was another one of my favourite episodes! Warren and Adam are legends!
Your Computer Space Ball is in fantastic condition and is rare as rocking horse shit! Thanks John.
'I went on the website, and their is a website full of knobs'
hehe I couldn't resist, ace vid as always and great that you can call on your buddies to help you out and bounce ideas off.
Awesome video and great progress, that monitor definitely needs some help lol.
"Knob World" bahahaha love it John
Bonjour John!
You and your friends are really heavyweights! "Un grand BRAVO!"
Ah, I wondered if the dream team would be back for the Computer Space Ball cab.
I like how the both of them are playing games in the start. I like that :P
Damn that was quick. Congrats on a new old school game.
Pong is such a nailbiter! Did Warren get his missing buck?
You rock, John!
just watching a video and notising its on for an HOUR!
Nice TRON Machine! :)
Gotta get a Robot Bowl now John! Fun game actually.
Hey John. I was just at CAX yesterday and they had one of these. The fiberglass was the same color but the front was green. It's knobs where also different. I took some pics of it if you wanna see.
I knew it was time to get Adam like I stated on the last video! So pumped!
Mac Donalds He may not be needed, but he does provide good info and insight into troubleshooting old games like this, and I really enjoy seeing him on these old projects with John. Adam's channel is awesome. If you're not subscribed, then I highly suggest it.
Adam is both brilliant and humble, a rare combination. It was great to meet up with him again, and yes, his channel is definitely worth checking out.
wondras Warren.. Is this you? And if so.. How come you don't have a channel!?
Yes, indeed. I've tested the waters with a few repair and Dexter-related videos, but I haven't worked my way up to a 'channel' yet. If you've run out of "Adam" videos to watch, check them out. :)
wondras Nice! You guys are great and a plethora of knowledge. I really enjoy and learn a lot from you three, and these channels inspire me to give a restoration a try.
Wow, you don't see vacuum tubes in video games too often. That makes me really wonder just how late into the 70s TV makers were still using them.
Awesome! I have a four player pong cocktail table, with speed ball buttons for each player, and adjustable difficulty. The paddle size varies with each difficulty setting, maybe that's why the paddles are so small in space ball? Is there adjustable difficulty pots/pins on board?
As I recall it was actually by design that the paddles don't reach the absolute upper and lower extremes of the screen. I think that one of the articles at All In For a Quarter or the Golden Age Arcade Historian blog covered that.
Hi John.
I was thinking about the scratches on the bottom of your machine and I was thinking if the scratches weren't very deep, then you could probably use some 1000 grit sandpaper and wet sand up to a 2000 grit then use some polishing paste you would use on a car to take out the lighter scratches and bring a good shine back, but only around the area where the scratches are.
I hope this helps.
Great video :)
About the question Shane asked about the Konami harness.
I think it's a jamma plus, where you have an extra connector on the PCB for the extra buttons and also included is the extra wires for the second speaker.
So if Shane googles (jamma plus plnouts) he will find the wiring diagram he needs for the extra speaker.
so he won't have to hack the original jamma harness.
Warren is the shit
Warrens a wise guy, I love his insights
John is your neighbor constantly mowing?
Yes that is me i am Peter John's neighbour i have 1500 acres but only one lawn mower at the moment so i am at it 4 days a week 7 hours a day ....i do apologies i will try and keep it down next time John's doing his vids
Us viewers would appreciate it. Or go electric.lol
love everything you guys do with these games. keep saving their lives and be good to each other you WILD STALLION'S
I do love Adam and Warren.
John, your arcade basement will never be complete unless you get a Daytona USA twin cabinet.
great
Man, remember when black and white tube TVs were everywhere at junk shops? Now they're actually collectible and stuff.
Main Event has the standard Jamma speaker pinout, where Simpsons is Stereo out.
If you want to do a temporary setup, just use alligator clips. Hot and ground to one speaker, to the Jamma harness on the Main Event board.
First thing I always checked for ,are cold solder joints.
Great video John! Glad you got the game up and running for the most part! What was the song that started at 1:31:40? It's pretty awesome.
This is like the hospital for arcade machine's
Thumbs up!
1:38:35 - The three sure things: Death, Taxes, John sucks at video games......Love the channel!
You should try "Invisible Glass". It's an aerosol spray, you can get it at an auto parts store. It is freaking awesome for cleaning glass.
guess I won't be sleeping..it's 4:33am and I see this
Is that a bottle opener on the right side of the cabinet?
John
What about rebulid the tv chasiss?
In my experience in fixing old audio equipment I've never had any luck with just Deoxit or similar products. I've always just removed and disassembled the pots to clean them by hand. They can develop grooves and collect fine dust and dirt. This method should work well with any old pot on any arcade system as well and I've never had to re-open one of these pots that I've fixed this way. In audio equipment its a lot easier to detect defects in pots as they are adjusted but they aren't adjusted as often as pots on an arcade machine would so the process might still be worth it on older games where pots are used as controls and you have strange movement or scoring issues.
Needle nose pliers seem to help when bending the tabs to disassemble the pots. After disassembling the pot I clean them with Deoxit or WD-40 and then carefully wipe the dirt and dust out. Then carefully bend the little tabs on the wiper to the left or right just enough that they don't sit in the normal groove they have likely created on the pad. Before reassembling I put some dielectric grease or Vaseline on the pad to help keep the wipers from creating a new groove too quickly. Once reassembled you just need to slowly work it back and forth to move the grease around and it should be good as new. Just be sure to not use too much grease and turn it slowly as to not build up grease under the wiper tabs. If it builds up under the wiper then it will lose contact but turning it enough times back and forth will correct that and it should be a permanent fix for that. And just note that if you want to be able to turn the pots fast during game play then use less grease or none at all. However, a little bit of grease will help it last a little longer.
Interesting technique. I've always just sprayed contact cleaner and hoped for the best (which seems to be good enough, though not ideal.) If I ever find myself restoring vintage audio gear, I might give that a try.
Those Knobs are from TVs from that era...there are tv and radio fairs that sell those and i bet other machine knobs by the box.
woohoo! Lol
It seemed weird to me that this is a 1:1 pong clone, but then I realized that this was before the copyright act of 1976
also it's thought that this version was with permission and a way for Atari to put out a version of it through their previous, then-bigger partner company Nutting Associates
John where did you get that shirt?
Adam, when do you release a new technical video? I mis the TTL logic videos 🤓
I still can't get over this name... "Computer Space Ball"...
nrdesign1991 itsa you, Mario!
You know what else you should check on regularly, Luigi?
nrdesign1991 what's that...?
well you since changed your name and picture so...
@@RWL2012 Oh! That was just a reference from a Vinesauce/Vinny video: th-cam.com/video/IOxU95wbUxg/w-d-xo.html
Damn I am good.
I guess now that the game runs, it's time to take it out of the garage and into the basement. :D
John, Don't wax it Glass it.
Use Liquid glass! Last forever and looks amazing.
as the video quality for the back and inside of the cabinet goes excellent.
That glare from the garage door being open on the computer space monitor makes it impossible to see what's on the monitor. All I see are tall trees reflected in the monitor.
Garage door closed with two general fill lights would make the front of this cab much easier to see in your video.
If you look closely at 13:11 you can see a medium sized monkey in the tree.
Last I checked Pong went to 15, not eleven because it uses a 4 bit counter. Nutting's version could be different but if it uses the same hardware, I doubt that. Also the( you probably already know this) TV needs a filter cap changed to remove the wave in the video.
Coin counter?
@1:50:29 Shane here: Audio out on the simpsons board is dedicated similar to the middle picture in this core0.staticworld.net/images/article/2014/07/fan-connectors-100360901-orig.jpg (very much like a 4 pin mobo fan connector). The harness in the cabinet (which I thought was JAMMA, but it sounds like Konami wires them slightly different) has no leads plugged into where the speaker output is on the main event board (just empty). I don't care if I can only get mono out as that's what the board has. I'm contemplating modifying the harness in the cabinet to have a 4 pin male lead available so that I can plug in my cab's speakers into it for the games that do not have dedicated onboard audio out. I'll take pictures as I progress as I'm pretty sure that'll explain it much better than I can. btw, simpsons and main event are both konami games, all controls/power/video work great(thus I assumed JAMMA), just playing deaf :(
You nailed coinop 100% he is only a hour from me,his warehouse is amazing,so many good games but you have to be quick when he post a game,it will be gone 10 sec later.
Definitely good for a game to play with the $1 bills to make it less boring.
I would play Space Ball for cash ! :)
For sure! It was fun playing for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Midway skins does not ise a trackball, it uses a small sprung stick. Also it has a telephone style keypad fo enter codes.
YES ANOTHER FIX VIDEO WITH WARREN AND ADAM!!!!!!!!! HMMMMMAGDASDASGDHGASHD!!!! FUCK YES!!
just started watching so I don't know if you found the problem it is 120 Hz hum he is probably right the power supply issue just synced it with my phone it is 120 Hz hun check the main cap to the power supply could be causing 120hz hum. it's a polypropylene capacitor your friend didn't know the type across the mains
don't bother using any contact cleaner just use WD-40 especially the abuser they are going to get WD-40 will protect them contact cleaner could make it worse overtime.
:) 360p :( oh got you ...thx John
Dear John thank you very much for this video.
But
1. You did not repair the coin mechanism.
2. You do not repair the controls (this can be done with a three-dimensional printer).
3. You have not completely repaired the monitor (television repairman can do this).
Yes, I am aware of all of these. :)
It will be perfect if it is completely repaired. :)
Warn is on it, he gave me tips on Tempest boards
Any luck with those?
Yea I got them both going, 1 has a MAP issue but not always, worse kind of problem! Fine few days then big square in center, you go to pull board and poof all ok! Haha Grrr
Table tennis winning score is 11, I guess that's why it goes to 11. (Is it Ping Pong in America?)
You could have asked them to take a look at Journey
Them power supply is all over the steel mills to run machine s. And computer boards
Naww, I wanna see a part 3, please. It's not really all fixed until you rebuild the TV so you get rid of that waviness, adjust the contrast and brightness, adjust the paddles all up, and the clean up that flash, and then replace the paddle knobs. Then replace the power cord and do your buffing/waxing, etc. THEN you're DONE!
It needs some finish work, but at least it's alive now. I think the PCB needs a look, too; there's a visible glitch when the ball hits the edge of the screen, and the serve behavior is a little different from what I've seen in other videos. It would also be nice to be sure if the paddles are really supposed to be that small...
So it's not really done, just as I was saying before.
CAN YOU BE MORE SPECIFIC?
YES, JOHN, I CAN, BUT I THOUGHT YOU ALREADY KNEW WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. DIDN'T YOU SAY YOU WERE GOING TO TRY TO GET RID OF THE WAVINESS IN THE TV BY REBUILDING IT (RECAPPING AND RETUBING)?
AND WOULDN'T YOU AT LEAST WANT TO TRY TWEAKING THE TV'S CONTRAST AND BRIGHTNESS JUST IN CASE YOU CAN GIVE IT A BETTER CONTRAST (SUCH A SIMPLE THING AND I THOUGHT I HAD SEEN YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT BEFORE)?
AND THEN THE REST ARE ALREADY ABOUT AS SPECIFIC AS I CAN MAKE THEM.
I THINK WE WILL REVISIT THE TV
Close the garage door, perhaps then you can see anything?
knob afficianado
Cut the A/C to the board for the counter.
100-250 dollar price range almost all games I saw in that coinop warehouse page... Working pole position 225? Not so crazy prices to me.
Sounds like a great deal!
I think we found another game that John sucks at........just joking. Another great video, thanks John.
But this one goes to 11
Here a new episode on his TH-cam John Sucks on ping pong video game. 😁hehe
+Mac Donalds shit head
+Mac Donalds shit heads like you!
John you fixed that space ball game cleaned it all up you were short one knob when it was all put back together you never show the viewers how it played in its fixed condition.
wonder if brain kuh will invite himself to breakfast again this bro fest lol
I heard Nolan saw space ball at the U.K. Show. And stole the idea and rushed production and called it pong
It was the *Magnavox Odyssey*
Is john transitioning to a 12 yr old girl? what's up with the ZOMG crap lately?
+Aaron L ZOMG!!
FIRST
How innovative!
All his base are also belong to You.
Yeah, I showed you guys.!
The biggest
+Mac Donalds shit head