Fatal crash of Van's RV-8 (N138PM) near Tehachapi Airport (TSP/KTSP), California, on July 24, 2020.

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  • @Hopeless_and_Forlorn
    @Hopeless_and_Forlorn ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Not everybody has the physiological and cognitive skills to fly airplanes safely. After putting nearly a hundred hours on a student pilot's license, I realized that the world is a safer place with me in the passenger cabin. But it was a fun, if ultimately humbling, experience.

    • @markhilken7026
      @markhilken7026 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I am a private pilot single engine/vfr. I wanted to become instrument rated in the worst way. took about 20 hours of instruction and decided that no way was I going to be an instrument rated pilot, so I understand where your coming from

    • @textech4056
      @textech4056 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your not alone. I was taking lessons in a Cessna. With my instructor aboard i somehow managed to put the airplane very near a rudder stall. My instructor pulled it out. He said " you get this thing in a rudder stall and it will drop like a rock". That was the end of my flying career.

    • @drmichaelshea
      @drmichaelshea ปีที่แล้ว +19

      You have some things worth far more than piloting skills: honesty and humility.

    • @deino117
      @deino117 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      That took pure strength of character on your part. Impressive.

    • @johnparish1432
      @johnparish1432 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Certificate".

  • @BostonBuzz
    @BostonBuzz ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I'd like to take flying lessons, but I worry about getting in a car accident going back and forth to my lessons. So I decided not to take lessons, too much risk going back n forth to the airport.

    • @snotnosewilly99
      @snotnosewilly99 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey!!!...Only 30,000+ people a year, die in auto accidents in the US.

    • @MyFriendlyPup
      @MyFriendlyPup ปีที่แล้ว

      Low IQ comment.

  • @aviationaccidentsNTSBcases
    @aviationaccidentsNTSBcases  ปีที่แล้ว +6

    On July 24, 2020, about 1159 Pacific daylight time, a Vans RV-8, N138PM, was substantially damaged when it was involved in an accident near Tehachapi Airport (TSP), Tehachapi, California. The private pilot was fatally injured. The airplane was operated as a Title 14 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) Part 91 personal flight.
    Witnesses reported that the accident airplane made a straight-in approach to land. The airplane touched down onto the runway tailwheel first and oscillated between its tailwheel and main landing gear several times. It then tipped up onto the left main gear and turned toward the right edge of the runway surface. The pilot initiated an aborted landing and according to a witness, the airplane lifted off quickly but made a "perceivably slow" turn to a left crosswind. The nose of the airplane was "alarmingly" high, and the airplane did not appear to be accelerating. The left turn steepened as the airplane descended behind buildings in a nose-up attitude with the wings wobbling. The engine "cut out" and, almost immediately thereafter. they heard the impact.
    The airframe and engine examination did not reveal any anomalies that would have precluded normal operation. Recorded data from the airplane was consistent with what the witnesses reported. The engine power never exceeded 67%, which is likely why the airplane did not appear to accelerate during the takeoff; however, this would not have resulted in the loss of control. Given the reported nose-high attitude and steep left turn, it is likely the pilot exceeded the airplane’s critical angle of attack and that it stalled at an altitude too low for the pilot to recover before it impacted the building.
    Probable Cause: The pilot’s failure to maintain airspeed and his exceedance of the airplane’s critical angle of attack, which resulted in an aerodynamic stall at too low of an altitude to recover.

    • @simonbaxter8001
      @simonbaxter8001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and that (accelerated) stall was probably exacerbated by the left turn. A straight ahead climb and unloading that wing with a little less back pressure would have helped. Not sure what the obstacles are straight ahead, but this looks like a hurry to get back around. So sad. RIP. Fly safe everyone.

    • @kerrytodd3753
      @kerrytodd3753 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wonder where those flaps were……..

    • @2Phast4Rocket
      @2Phast4Rocket 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Another botched go-around.

  • @hankramos8663
    @hankramos8663 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Flying an airplane can be a joyful and rewarding experience for most pilots and passengers alike, but flight will always involve some risk and hazard. RIP.

    • @ccrider3435
      @ccrider3435 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's STILL safer than driving!

    • @arazai
      @arazai ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ccrider3435 it most certainly is not in GA.

  • @johnfisher7143
    @johnfisher7143 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Boy, all those hopes and dreams, building your kit aircraft, investing so much time and money into your license and plane, to have it end in a terrifying violent moment like that. RIP. Better to have dreamed and failed than never to have dreamed at all.

    • @outwiththem
      @outwiththem 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A dream? this was a fatal ending nightmare. LOL..

  • @jim5148
    @jim5148 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It didn't look slow just before impact, but I guess the video playback makes it appear faster.

  • @ANGELSUPERSAYAIN4
    @ANGELSUPERSAYAIN4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man that was a scary day. I could still remember feeling the entire building shake from the impact. Um happy and thankful im alive still

    • @davidh1925
      @davidh1925 ปีที่แล้ว

      I heard the pilot was cut in half? Is it true? I had a friend that worked in nearby shop

    • @ANGELSUPERSAYAIN4
      @ANGELSUPERSAYAIN4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidh1925 no he didn't get cut in half. He got decapitated by one of the metal support beams on the roof. It was a pretty gruesome scene. There was blood all over the walls. I Haven't gone back ever since that day.

  • @dabneyoffermein595
    @dabneyoffermein595 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the plane was not totally destroyed or anywhere near it, what did the pilot perish from? What was the cause of death?

  • @jiyushugi1085
    @jiyushugi1085 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Airplanes, like motorcycles, aren't for everyone..... RVs are hot ships and not for beginners. Get a glider rating first, then Cessnas, then, maybe, RV.

  • @ericwilliams626
    @ericwilliams626 ปีที่แล้ว

    It always boils down to the attention to conditions. You can't see wind, so you may tend to not ask, but there are plenty of videos which demonstrate how wind affects any size airplane when landing. Always ask for wind conditions before landing.

  • @EyeForKnowledge.
    @EyeForKnowledge. ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Watching this channel is really making me question weather or not I want to take flying lessons. There are ALOT of wrecks.

    • @jimmiller5600
      @jimmiller5600 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Flying is not wildly difficult. However it does not take errors lightly. This pilot flew a "home-built" taildragger. Each piece of "home-built" and "taildragger" increased the level of skills required. On this day the pilot's skills were not up to the challenge. Good luck with your endeavors.

    • @hdaviator9181
      @hdaviator9181 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The vast majority of these accidents are caused by people making poor decisions. Don't fly if you think you are an idiot and won't follow proper procedures.

    • @kimtranleake1145
      @kimtranleake1145 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Not as many wrecks as automobiles - so quit driving? No, but flying is much less forgiving of errors in judgment; not because airplanes are unsafe. Pursue your dream.

    • @stevel8200
      @stevel8200 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@kimtranleake1145 Not a fair comparison. When compared to fatalities per mile and/or hour to equalize the two, GA planes carry a far more severe risk than cars. But like someone else responded; if you're not going to follow procedures, don't fly. The risk can be mitigated.

    • @chrisambrose8838
      @chrisambrose8838 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I’ve been flying for 47 years now… owned my Skyhawk for 33 of those years. Flew 300 miles once to see a friend and was almost killed in a car accident after I landed. Learn to fly. 👍🙋‍♂️🖖🏻

  • @cornondajakob
    @cornondajakob ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like to watch these so I can learn from them and not end up like them

  • @MyFriendlyPup
    @MyFriendlyPup ปีที่แล้ว

    I just saw his video from 3yrs ago showing off the build

  • @letitrest4662
    @letitrest4662 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It makes me wonder if the pilot had some emergence medical episode beforehand, and couldn't keep his faculties to fly out of the situation. Lesson for the day, be calm and aviate.

  • @tungstenkid2271
    @tungstenkid2271 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think stalling must be the biggest factor in pilot deaths ever since planes first flew, so pilots should drum it into their minds that "Speed is life".

  • @RaceMentally
    @RaceMentally 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That damn thing fell outta the sky. Damnit

  • @kerncountyresponsevideos2639
    @kerncountyresponsevideos2639 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That is crazy. I was there when it happened so sad that the pilot died.

  • @LuMaxQFPV
    @LuMaxQFPV ปีที่แล้ว +7

    General aviation has about a fatality a day. It doesn't like people talking about that fact. In that statistic are included innocent passengers, loved ones, family, and innocent people on the ground.
    As a pilot myself, I find the arrogance and hubris of many GA pilots distasteful, and the reason for the jaw dropping statistics.
    Take a deep look at the culture. Be objective. Be honest with yourself, think of loved ones you're risking.. and don't exclude the possibility of a non-flight career.
    I love flight. I also loved skydiving. Both with risk.
    It changes you when later in life you have gaps where friends and loved ones should still be present, but aren't.
    Choose carefully, and with much deep self assessment, and with your future life non-flight dreams and goals always front and center.

    • @spurgear4
      @spurgear4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well said.

    • @aviationaccidentsNTSBcases
      @aviationaccidentsNTSBcases  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree with you, but here is a fun fact, the US has an ongoing record of 22 days without fatal GA crashes (if we don't include the UH-60 in Alabama and the experimental from California this February)

    • @truthserum5310
      @truthserum5310 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aviationaccidentsNTSBcases Had*

    • @dwaynemcallister7231
      @dwaynemcallister7231 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree that flying can be dangerous as seen on so many TH-cam channels, but my Dad flew for 41 years in the western Arctic and he flew in all conditions, he never had these bad outcome's, but without a doubt he had a talent for flying, so he proved to me GA flying can be safe if the pilot knows his limitations.

  • @owenmerrick2377
    @owenmerrick2377 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd go flying more, except I loathe the drive to the airport. This is AQP #16- Messed Up Go-Around....totally mishandled the aircraft, I'm afraid. Some #12 and #9 in there too, I think

  • @dh1163
    @dh1163 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did he even save that? I thought once a wingtip touched down like that you bought yourself a first-class ticket to cartwheel city.

    • @scottbeyer101
      @scottbeyer101 ปีที่แล้ว

      He didn't clip a wing tip. He bounced off the left main landing gear.

  • @SuperBroncosguy
    @SuperBroncosguy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was this "The impossible turn" i've heard about?

    • @flylife6495
      @flylife6495 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No.

    • @outwiththem
      @outwiththem 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Go around quick turn and stall.

  • @scottbeyer101
    @scottbeyer101 ปีที่แล้ว

    Puzzling that the pilot failed to shove the power full in on a go around. Go arounds do get people, but usually because they firewall it with full flaps and get surprised when the plane pitches up hard. I guess he was bouncing around too much to notice he did not full power in. Then with an ANR headset, maybe he could not hear less than full RPM.
    We all have bounced a landing, but the go around has to be instinctual muscle memory. Full forward, wings level, pitch for climb, positive rate take out one flap...then another... RIP.

    • @hmbpnz
      @hmbpnz ปีที่แล้ว

      Drugs or other impairment?

    • @outwiththem
      @outwiththem 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No pull up at all. A low pitch climb only

  • @davidjohnson3450
    @davidjohnson3450 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think he should have had wings at level and more power. critical angle of attack

  • @scotabot7826
    @scotabot7826 ปีที่แล้ว

    Again, 100% Pilot Error!!

  • @Bob-cd5pp
    @Bob-cd5pp ปีที่แล้ว +2

    some people should stay on the ground

  • @stevegyles3190
    @stevegyles3190 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hope I die peacefully like grandpa and not shrieking in horror like the CFI in the right seat of his airplane. But seriously, RIP to the pilot.

    • @flylife6495
      @flylife6495 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What right seat?

    • @stevegyles3190
      @stevegyles3190 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@flylife6495 I was referring to the right seat of the plane grandpa was flying. It was a Bonanza. Frankly, I'm shocked and offended that you would make light of my grief so flippantly. Do you find it risible that 2 people in the plane, 14 people and 3 dogs on the ground were killed and tens of dollars of damage was inflicted on the Farmer's Market the plane spun into? Internet trolls like you only live to suck the positivity out of others in an attempt to fill the emptiness of your own souls. But congratulations on knowing an RV-8 is a tandem seater. I'm sure it will help with your next check ride.
      (The preceding was 100% sarcasm aimed at triggering a pedantic moron except the part about the RV-8 being a tandem seater. I meant every word of that.)

    • @JoeCnNd
      @JoeCnNd ปีที่แล้ว

      @@flylife6495 Yeah, it's tandem seating.

  • @outwiththem
    @outwiththem 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Low Go around quick turn and stall. One of many. Chumpie could not do go arounds well.

  • @hmbpnz
    @hmbpnz ปีที่แล้ว

    When you see completely botched stuff like this with a stall into the ground with only 70% of your power in, ya gotta think impairment of some type...

  • @CLGLS600Mercedes
    @CLGLS600Mercedes ปีที่แล้ว

    To many amature pilot's and bad maintenance/old planes in the sky.

    • @scotabot7826
      @scotabot7826 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Also, Way Too many, totally ignorant people making stupid comments on TH-cam videos!!!

    • @ewrcap
      @ewrcap ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maintenance is one of the less likely scenarios.