Really helpful video! I bought my Proedge before knowing about the long grind issue and luckily found your solution - it works really well. I also wondered if it would helpful to grind away the lower left side of the 3 hole jig to allow it to travel further to the left - allowing the tool holder to swing down further before hitting the frame edge. Seems like overall, this problem is something that should be pretty easy for Sorby to fix (make the belt a little proud of the side frames?).
Thanks for sharing this video. Had exactly the same problem. First cut the horseshoe at 15 degrees to discover that didn't work, cursing the bloody instruction video. I solved it by cutting the horseshoe at 20 degrees instead of 15. That only just gets it right, the wings are less long though. Lost quite a bit of my bowlgouge in the proces... Love your solution
Great video. I made a platform and set of jigs to turn my 2" x 48" belt grinder into a poor man's Pro Edge and hit this exact problem. Grinding away part of the clamp made me feel like I had gone wrong in my design, so it is comforting to know that others have resorted to doing this too.
The angle indicated on the measuring template only applies to the first (innermost) hole. To get the usual 45°, you have to measure at 40 for hole 2 and 35 for hole 3 (the outermost).
Brilliant, I have also had this problem so I'll try modifying the jig as you have. Seems like an oversight on the machine design really, shame because the machine is excellent otherwise!
I'm looking at buying this system, did you actually get in touch with the Robert Sorby company, and what did they say in response to your points? It would be interesting to hear their views. Nice video.
Clearly Sorby have an issue here but you are ending up with a long grind and a 60º bevel. Have you tried adjusting the angle of the tool holder to compensate for this? I want a long grind with a 45º to 50º bevel. (Unlike Tormek) the Sorby gouge holder does not have marks or clicks for repeatebale adjustment.
Which video did you watch that says 15 degrees to create the horseshoe? The one I can find says 45. 15 degrees would give a crazy long grind like i’ve never seen anyone use!
@@Bigtel1970 Oh yeah! Weird. I’m trying to see what they’re doing - it almost looked like they’d ground away some of the body of the sander to accommodate?!
Hello... so what angle did you cut the horseshoe to if not 15 degrees? I am having all these exact same problems and it's p**sing me off - it's not exactly a cheap machine!!
Hi David, this time I have not ground down a horseshoe - I have formed the ‘wings’ by eye; it makes sense when you try it - but happy to discuss it further
Hi Les, thanks for watching and glad it helps... I didn’t use the 15degree ‘horseshoe’ on this as that produces a much longer grind.. this was done more by eye to produce the sides. (It sounds like it could be difficult without the horseshoe to guide you but it really isn’t - just aim to have the side sweep back with a very slightly convex curve) However, I HAVE made another video that generally follows this one and creates that very long grind - it’s right here: th-cam.com/video/r_lzrK4UVTQ/w-d-xo.html
At long last a realistic video of the problems of the ludicrously priced Pro Edge. Just try putting a long grind on a detail spindle gouge with a tip angle of 30º - impossible! I use a Woodcut Trugrind - doesn't have any of these problems AND I can sharpen my 1" bowl gouge ( you can't fit the tool in the jig!) along with all my other tools, skews, spindle, bowl, scrapers, even removable cutters; all to the grinds that I want, not what Robert Sorby dictate. Just try that on a ProEdge;
Really helpful video! I bought my Proedge before knowing about the long grind issue and luckily found your solution - it works really well. I also wondered if it would helpful to grind away the lower left side of the 3 hole jig to allow it to travel further to the left - allowing the tool holder to swing down further before hitting the frame edge. Seems like overall, this problem is something that should be pretty easy for Sorby to fix (make the belt a little proud of the side frames?).
Thanks for sharing this video. Had exactly the same problem. First cut the horseshoe at 15 degrees to discover that didn't work, cursing the bloody instruction video. I solved it by cutting the horseshoe at 20 degrees instead of 15. That only just gets it right, the wings are less long though. Lost quite a bit of my bowlgouge in the proces... Love your solution
Great video. I made a platform and set of jigs to turn my 2" x 48" belt grinder into a poor man's Pro Edge and hit this exact problem. Grinding away part of the clamp made me feel like I had gone wrong in my design, so it is comforting to know that others have resorted to doing this too.
Thanks for the informative video. I own two of these ProEdge tools. I really like using them.
You've just answered all my questions, thank you heaps mate
Top vid. Cheers mucker. It’s saved me from putting in the swear tin. 🤣👍👍🤣
The angle indicated on the measuring template only applies to the first (innermost) hole. To get the usual 45°, you have to measure at 40 for hole 2 and 35 for hole 3 (the outermost).
Thanks for the tip on the holder
Brilliant, I have also had this problem so I'll try modifying the jig as you have. Seems like an oversight on the machine design really, shame because the machine is excellent otherwise!
Similar issue here. Thanks for your video!
Very useful - thanks
I'm looking at buying this system, did you actually get in touch with the Robert Sorby company, and what did they say in response to your points? It would be interesting to hear their views. Nice video.
Awesome, thanks for this mate thumbs up!
Did you get any advice from Robert Sorby about the left side grind?
Why haven’t they fixed this? I’m still having this issue
Clearly Sorby have an issue here but you are ending up with a long grind and a 60º bevel. Have you tried adjusting the angle of the tool holder to compensate for this? I want a long grind with a 45º to 50º bevel. (Unlike Tormek) the Sorby gouge holder does not have marks or clicks for repeatebale adjustment.
Which video did you watch that says 15 degrees to create the horseshoe? The one I can find says 45. 15 degrees would give a crazy long grind like i’ve never seen anyone use!
Go to 4mins 50sec
th-cam.com/video/k-nTHpfcwkQ/w-d-xo.html
@@Bigtel1970 Oh yeah! Weird. I’m trying to see what they’re doing - it almost looked like they’d ground away some of the body of the sander to accommodate?!
Hello... so what angle did you cut the horseshoe to if not 15 degrees? I am having all these exact same problems and it's p**sing me off - it's not exactly a cheap machine!!
Hi David, this time I have not ground down a horseshoe - I have formed the ‘wings’ by eye; it makes sense when you try it - but happy to discuss it further
How can I obtain the three hole jig? I've searched and searched, even Sorby does not respond to my inquires
www.oliverswoodturning.co.uk/product/long-grind-jig/
Thanks for your video, did you still use the 15 degrees or did you use a different setting please let me know 🙏😀.
Hi Les, thanks for watching and glad it helps... I didn’t use the 15degree ‘horseshoe’ on this as that produces a much longer grind.. this was done more by eye to produce the sides. (It sounds like it could be difficult without the horseshoe to guide you but it really isn’t - just aim to have the side sweep back with a very slightly convex curve)
However, I HAVE made another video that generally follows this one and creates that very long grind - it’s right here:
th-cam.com/video/r_lzrK4UVTQ/w-d-xo.html
At long last a realistic video of the problems of the ludicrously priced Pro Edge. Just try putting a long grind on a detail spindle gouge with a tip angle of 30º - impossible! I use a Woodcut Trugrind - doesn't have any of these problems AND I can sharpen my 1" bowl gouge ( you can't fit the tool in the jig!) along with all my other tools, skews, spindle, bowl, scrapers, even removable cutters; all to the grinds that I want, not what Robert Sorby dictate. Just try that on a ProEdge;